Taylor took a $10 million pay cut in March to stay with the Bills, saying at the time he was putting his trust in management to fill in pieces around him after Taylor dealt with a lackluster group of receivers over his first two seasons as the starter. Instead, management has pulled out the rug on Taylor.
Sorry Tyrod, the Bills just screwed you.
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Just saw this too. What a douche move by the Bills, they had a decent shot to make the playoffs and just tossed it down the drain. Tyrod needs to find a team with that is less run heavy and has some resemblence of decent wideouts.
They replaced Watkins with Jordan Matthews, whom they acquired for Ronald Darby
phew, they are going to struggle with the passing game on both sides of the ball after that
And yeah, the understood message here is that the Bills are tanking to force the hand of moving on from Tyrod and starting over from scratch. Which.... wow, dickbag move from management
Yeah.....that's a shitty move, for sure. Can't help but feel sorry for Tyrod!!
I'd welcome Tyrod back to Baltimore in a heartbeat!
the O-line is no good either
Tyrod deserves to be treated better. They'll probably release him before they have to pay him half his contracted amount for this year.
....and then he goes back and dominates for the Ravens with Flaccid out for a while?
If only he had went to the Broncos and sat behind Peyton for a season. He'd be in a great spot right now. At least there were rumors the Broncos were interested in him, but he turned it down for a quicker shot at being a starter in Buffalo.
That is correct. Gary Kubiak tried to bring Tyrod Taylor with him to Denver. Tyrod opted to go to Buffalo instead since he had a better path to the starting job.
that being said, is there any doubt he's destined to be the starter in Washington next year? With the team doing everything they can to ensure Cousins bolts town with both middle fingers in the air after the season, it seems pretty logical, especially with the hometown feel.
God, I hope not, I can't stand the thought of rooting for the Redskins
Me either and I've been a Redskins fan for life
Denver offered more $$$ too
Hindsight is 20/20 and all but with the way he's been treated in Buffalo it is a damn shame he didn't go to Denver. He's performed better than almost anyone expected him too, he sacrifices stats for the team, then sacrificed salary for the team. And yet they essentially try to push him out the door a month before this season starts. If the Bills organization had any class they wouldn't have pitched him that they believed in this roster and let him go somewhere he was wanted instead of potentially sacrificing him career while tanking. It's completely disgusting
I guess it's the Eagles then since they kinda-sorta picked Evans?
As a Giants fan, please no. I physically can't root for them. It was hard enough with Vick on the team.
To be honest, as good as Sammy is/was he usually only lasted a few games anyway before he got injured. Anquan Boldin will most likely pick up the slack there.
I was thinking the same thing. Sammy has averaged just over 50 catches a season. Then I read this about Matthews:
'Matthews has been a highly productive player since being selected 42nd overall in 2014. He ranks first in receptions (225) and third in receiving yards (2,673) among Eagles in their first three years and is one of only five players in NFL history with 65-plus receptions and 800-plus receiving yards in each of their first three seasons, joining a club that includes Randy Moss, Odell Beckham Jr., Mike Evans and A.J. Green.'
Maybe with Matthews and Boldin, Tyrod wins!
As a bills fan, I've got mixed emotions. Watkins can be a great receiver, but he doesn't stay healthy and he wasn't going to stay in Buffalo next year. Boldin and Matthews are pretty good possession receivers. Hopefully they bring in somebody that can stretch the field.
I'm actually more upset about losing Darby. I don't even know who our corners are anymore.
I really did think we would make playoffs this year if Watkins/McCoy/tyrod stayed healthy because I'm pretty confident McDermott will improve the defense dramatically. Now I'm not so sure.
Watch out for Zay Jones...I think the kid is going to be good. They do need someone to take the top off though..They may be able to find someone after the first few cuts...
Since McDermott and Beane are both from the Panthers, I'm going to trust that they know what they are doing..
In Tyrod we trust
Bah. Just making a joke
Politics bro
PSA: "Rod" is short for Tyrod
Ah, ok. That's my bad bro.
Personally I felt Tyrod should have taken his chances on the FA last year. The only reason he even got a chance to start for the Bills is because Rex Ryan believed in him. He's got no love from the upper office, and it seems like they're just using him as a placeholder until they find a QB they like. Which is just dumb for both parties: The Bills can't seem to figure out that finding a different quarterback isn't going to fix how bad they are at nearly every other position, and Tyrod is going to waste his best years playing for a crap team. /rant
Current attitude toward Bills front office...
This movie will always get legs from me.
I don't see the big deal. How much of an impact was Watkins last and how much of an impact would he have been this year?
In baseball terms, his WAR had to be pretty pedestrian.
Isn't WAR made for just this situation, meaning it measures how many more games they would have won if he wasn't injured?
Nope.
How so? Last I checked WAR was perfect for saying "if this player was injured, here's what we'd lose" which is the same as "here's what we lost when that player was injured."
I could see if we had no stats for Watkins, but we do have some limited stats since he did play in some games these past years.
Huh? Why else would I mention WAR?
It measures the additional wins a team would have (to date) with a particular player in the lineup vs an average player. So a WAR of 1.0 after 20 games is "better" than a war of 4.5 after 100 games. If you're injured the whole season, you have a WAR of zero because you made no contribution.
It works for baseball, but I can't imagine it would literally work well for football due to the limited number of games, far more players contributing to the outcome but far fewer players having a substantial impact on games, a smaller percentage of players with meaningful measurables, and the impact of QBs vs other players (sort of like pitchers, however QBs play every offensive snap of every game.)
It was just an analogy (and an apt one IMO), but the bottom line is that Watkins' WAR would have been really low and frankly, if football had a WAR stat (I assume it doesn't), receivers would have much lower WARs than people realize because their impact is actually not as great as people and fantasy points think. IIRC, an NFL team with a 200 yard rusher wins about 90% of games, but only about 50% of the time with a 200 yard receiver. All yards are not created equal.
I don't think Watkins' loss is particularly significant to the Bills or TT5.
JMatt got the ball A LOT last year, and he's an exemplary teammate and hard worker. But he will still drop the ball on a wide open 3rd down 7 or 8 times a year. I'd say it's a downgrade from Watkins, which as someone who hopes TT does well in the league makes me sad. But as an Eagles fan I'm thrilled at getting some corner help, the other guys we have there would have trouble in the AAC
Re Jordan Matthews: hands of absolute stone. Seemingly tries to catch the ball with his hands balled up as fists. I have tons of Iggles fan friends - a couple of them texted me condolences re Tyrod having him as a teammate. He's a good athlete, plays with urgency, little chip on his shoulder - but he is an awful wide receiver. Basically an expensive special teamer unless he learns how to catch the ball...
HOWEVER. The Watkins loss means almost nothing in terms of on-field production. To paraphrase Last Chance U, "you can't help the club in the tub". I think Anquan Boldin at 75% of his former self will more than fill the gap left by Sammy Watkins. Not to mention Zay Jones who (as we VT fans can attest) has a Dez Bryant-like catch radius and can fuckin' fly. With the right coach/system, I think he can be a Pro Bowler.
The Bills are still going to be awful - their offensive line is atrocious and their secondary is almost that bad - but I don't think the WR corps will be the issue.
McDermott might be able to work with a lack of talent in the secondary if he's getting push up front. Lot of guys who looked average or worse with other teams seem to have excelled in Carolina's secondary the past few years.
How much of that is McDermott as opposed to Rivera who clearly knows defense, I don't know.
Hate this set of trades for Tyrod, but love it for the Eagles.
A slot WR that the Eagles clearly weren't bringing back next year anyway, and get a young CB that can actually play and helps what was 100% the weakest part of the Eagles team.
Would have preferred not giving the draft pick as well, but they have a lot of 1 year FAs that I think the GM will allow to walk to get compensatory picks next year. Great move
Agreed. I definitely #TrustTheProcess when it comes to Howie
I live in Buffalo and listen to a lot of sports radio, the host around here are seem anti-Tyrod. They think that franchise QBs are a slam dunk in the first 10 picks of the draft. I felt the Bills had a good shot at the playoffs this year with the Jets tanking and Miami losing Tannehill and that being 4 of there loses last year. If Watkins stays healthy and Darby plays like he did in 15 it's a horrible trade. If Watkins gets hurt and Darby plays like last year it's a good trade. Maybe Zay Jones and Tre white are better than expected. They should bring in Brandon Flowers.
I follow the Bills casually just because of LT and Tyrod. I think Brandon Beane and McDermott know what they are doing(Panthers are my second fav team) and I'm not surprised that they are putting Defense or offense(McDermott is a defensive guy)..the fact that they did bring in Boldin to be the leader of the receiving corps lets me know that they aren't trying to tank, but I they seem to be following the Browns lead and gathering picks to upgrade them. Tyrod just happens to be the QB. Peterman is not ready, so I would say Tyrod's job is safe this season..We KNOW they aint bringing Kapernick to a city like Buffalo..but thats another topic..
This title is misleading since his best receiver, Logan Thomas, is still on the team
Coincidentally he is also their best tank.
Insert TE to QB joke
Followed by Lawson transferring joke
Followed by more fans at a UVA football game
And I think we have most of the usual jokes covered
Bills will still have more wins this season than fans at the UVA spring gathering that's supposedly close to the football field.
One of these days, Logan's going to actually wear an NFL jersey for a photoshoot.
I'll still take Tyrod in my fantasy draft, because he's the bomb.
And people are still paying Mike Glennon to play QB, he was average college qb, what kind of numbskulls are running these teams
Glennon got $3 million more guaranteed too
We will be ready for Tyrod in Jacksonville next year!
ready and waiting! bye bye blake! (thank god! )
oof, he can't catch a break
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20339487/jordan-matthews-buffalo-bill...
You beat me to it. Matthews had the potential to be an asset, now?
Yeah, despite all the hate, Matthews had racked up a ton of catches over the first 3 years of his career in Philly. He's certainly not a game breaker, but he is a productive possession receiver.
And to think, some thought he wouldn't be able to fill Watkins' shoes in Buffalo
Aaaaaand Boldin just announced he's retiring...
Link to SI article
And their fans will till blame Tyrod for everything.
What the actual fuck are the Bills doing? If you're not first you're last, so let's be dead last.
I guess they figure that they can't beat the Pats, and instead want to claim the "Most Inept Front Office" trophy, which has been held by the Browns longer than VT has had the Black Diamond trophy.
At this point the Jets have claimed the most inept office from the Brown's. I think the Brown's are actually getting better.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/8/24/16198586/tyrod-taylor-buffalo-bi...
Fun "what if" piece but like it stays in the article, it'll never happen because teams just don't do trades that much (they totally should), especially right before the season starts. Realistically the best case for Tyrod is he stays healthy this year, puts up good numbers or at the very least similar numbers to what he's had, and he goes somewhere else in free agency next season when the Bills dump him.
I know he and his agent were going for some guaranteed cash (who can blame them), but they really should have pushed for a trade earlier this year. The writing was on the wall when the Bills totally disrespected him with the shenanigans they pulled with him towards the end of last year. It made it obvious they weren't serious about his future so find the best option for both parties to break it off
Maybe Denver is still interested...I mean, Trevor Semian?
Other than Tyrod and LT3 and Nigel Williams, does McDermott have any other ties to VT?
Sean McDermott hosts Virginia Tech basketball team prior to March Madness
Bills' McDermott welcomes Virginia Tech to Buffalo
Bills currently have the best record in the AFC East....suck it Brady!
I saw bits and parts of that game. Their run game looks pretty decent. Tolbert and McCoy's run styles compliment each other quite well.