Disclaimer, this is a long post, for the takeaways feel free to scroll to the bottom.
So I am not too proud to say that as a Hokies fan, I want to be where Clemson is. Many people have commented along the lines that VT is closest to Clemson when considering current "blue-bloods" (I don't want to debate whether they are truly a blue-blood, I just mean teams that have recently had top success both on the field and in recruiting). I decided to take a look at the timeline around when they turned it around on the field, on the recruiting trail, and how that compares to when Swinney became HC, to try and give myself a realistic expectation around if Fuente is the real deal, how long can we expect it to take him to build a NC contender. I'll share the table below with the data I've collected, then some thoughts about how it compares to VT. For Clemson, I went as far back as 2000 to just get an idea of their trends before Swinney, but in my observations I'm mainly focusing on the 3-4 years before Swinney became HC, and how long it took them to be contenders.
Clemson Data:
| Year | Record | Bowl | Bowl Opponent | Recruit Rank |
| 2000 | 9-3 | L-Gator | VT! | 33 |
| 2001 | 7-5 | W-Humanitarian | Louisiana Tech | 19 |
| 2002 | 7-6 | L-Tangerine | Texas Tech | 29 |
| 2003 | 9-4 | W-Peach | Tenn | 43 |
| 2004 | 6-5 | 44 | ||
| 2005 | 8-4 | W-Champs | Colorado | 15 |
| 2006 | 8-5 | L-Music City | Kentucky | 14 |
| 2007 | 9-4 | L-Chick-Fil-A | Auburn | 16 |
| *2008 | 7-6 | L-Gator | Nebraska | 9 |
| 2009 | 9-5 | W-Music City | Kentucky | 36 |
| 2010 | 6-7 | L-Meineke | USF | 27 |
| 2011 | 10-4 | L-Orange | WVU | 10 |
| 2012 | 11-2 | W-Chick-Fil-A | LSU | 20 |
| 2013 | 11-2 | W-Orange | OSU | 15 |
| 2014 | 10-3 | W-Russell Ath | OU | 16 |
| 2015 | 14-1 | W-Orange, L-NC | OU, Alabama | 9 |
| 2016 | 14-1 | W-Fiesta, W-NC | OSU, Alabama | 11 |
| 2017 | TBD | 16 |
*Swinney became HC midway through the 2008 season
VT data:
| Year | Record | Bowl | Bowl Opponent | Recruit |
| 2012 | 7-6 | W-Russell Ath | Rutgers | 21 |
| 2013 | 8-5 | L-Sun | UCLA | 21 |
| 2014 | 7-6 | W-Military | Cinci | 28 |
| 2015 | 7-6 | W-Independence | Tulsa | 29 |
| *2016 | 10-4 | W-Belk | Arkansas | 42 |
| 2017 | 25 |
*Fuente became HC in 2016
Observations:
-Since 2000, Clemson's average recruiting ranking is 21. VT's average going back to 2000 is 28 (though the table for VT only goes back to 2012)
-In 2005, Clemson started paying their recruits (jk...but maybe). They went from an average class ranking of 33 over 5 seasons, to an average class ranking of 13, without any noticeable difference on the field (same HC, Tommy Bowden, and no significant increase in wins in the preceding years.)
-In Swinney's first full year as HC, they went 9-5, with top 15 talent, but had a drop off in year two, going 6-7. Recruiting also dropped off a bit, presumably with the coaching change, with a 36th and 27th ranked class. Somehow in Swinney's third full recruiting class he was able to pull in a top 10 class even though they went 6-7 the previous year. Compare this to Fuente's first year, he went 10-4 though having much less talent than what Swinney started with. The recruiting class between coaches for VT dropped to 42, though his first full class was actually slightly above average at 25.
-Ok, here is the most important point, my reason for doing this: It wasn't until Swinney's 4th full year as HC that Clemson really became relevant on the national stage, going 11-2 in 2012 and beating LSU in the Chick-Fil-A bowl. It took him 7 years to get to the NC, finally winning it in his 8th full year as HC. In recruiting, it wasn't until Swinney's third class that he was able to get back to a top 10 class, and never having a class lower than 20th since, where they were for the 3-4 years preceding Swinney.
-Some caveats, there is a lot this data does not take into consideration; funding, location, branding, etc. Whether or not there was something fishy about Clemson's recruiting from 2005-08, Clemson's recruiting ceiling may be higher than VT's (our best classes being ranked 16, 18, and 20). Also, Swinney was promoted from within so he theoretically already had many recruiting relationships established in his region.
My biggest takeaway: Clemson's success didn't happen overnight. Swinney started with better talent, and it still took him 4 years to build a contender, and 3 years to see significant recruiting success. Fuente had more success in year 1 with less talent, and his first full recruiting class was slightly better than our average. Swinney's recruiting roughly improved with Clemson's on-field performance (the 2011 class is hard to account for) so it is possible that it could be the same is VT has the same build to success on the field.
Bottom line: I think Fuente and Foster are the real deal, so I want to give them a realistic chance/timeline to succeed on the field and on the recruiting trail. We are only going into year 2, good things are coming!! Leg to you if you are still reading.

Comments
I don't know how I feel about using Clemson as a benchmark. There are plenty of counter examples of teams showing promise and then falling back to earth. Also Clemson has one thing going for it we've never had: $$$.
As far as picking Clemson, out of all the teams that have won a NC since 2000, I think they are the most similar; school size, ACC, geographically similar, history/blue-blood status (I know Clemson won a NC in the 80's, but I don't think many people would have referred to Clemson as a blue-blood in 2005). Through most of the 2000's VT had better success on the field. Clemson was struggling on field until they hired a young, exciting, capable head coach who really turned them around. Hopefully VT did the same thing in hiring Fuente (that's not meant to be a slight on Beamer).
As far as the money, you may be right, I didn't look into that, and I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I know it affects everything, but I think recruiting and on-field success are easier to see/quantify their impact.
If you're looking to compare to a team that won the NC, sure... I personally think Oregon might be a better comparison as far as schools go, even though they didn't win it all.
Why Oregon
I do think that Oregon under Chip was similar to VT under Beamer. Chip's effect on college football offenses was similar Beamer's effect on special teams. Both teams had been mainstays in college football, despite never winning a national title, and rarely having top 10 talent (Oregon did have a couple top 10 classes I believe).
I would say Oregon is like VT not the other way around.
Until we climb higher than we did in 1999, I think both schools are like each other. What do you see as the difference? We have better coaching now when we are further from our high than Oregon is?
If we're able to swing back to back Top 20 recruiting classes with Fuente and Foster, we will play for a National Championship.
That's how strongly I feel about the quality of our coaching. We don't necessarily have to overload them with elite top end talent, but if we can completely raise the talent floor so that our 2-deep is flush with starter-level players, we're in a very good place. With Fuente's ability to consistently get the best out of his QBs throughout his career, I stand by my prediction.
This is why I'm paying so close attention to how this year and next year's classes pan out. If we see steady improvement, we're well on our way to being where we want to be.
I agree in general, I think we legitimately have two of the best coaches in the country on each side of the ball. if we get 2-3 above average classes in a row I think we can make some noise. However, my main point in doing this is setting a timeline for myself, meaning I'm willing to give him more time than this year and next to start getting those classes.
I think we'll end up with a solid class this year, but I'm more looking to the 2019 and 2020 classes as being "those classes" that can get us to the top level. Hopefully another exciting/successful year this year can really make a difference in those classes.
Clemson's 2010 season shows that either Dabo was still getting his coaching legs underneath him or recruiting rankings are crap. Nearly an entire team made up of Top 15 classes and a 6-5 record? Turrible.
Clemson lost to WV u , 33/70 in 2012 orange bowl , fired the defensive coordinator and hired Venables a good D.C. They have been on an upward trajectory since,with good recruiting and coaching. Tech can emulate with two great coaches and a little better recruiting and I don't expect it to take 7yrs.
Dabo was on the hot seat he was acting and got the job . He hired Morris who got the Clemson O going they broke all kinds of records then re upped with the DC 4 years back after the defense got plundered by WVU in the bowl game. We are on our way because we now can win with offense and still have the defense . There was just no excuse for our offense being so inept for so long it finally caught up with us recruiting perception ect. I don't want to even talk about because I am so thrilled we have a chance on O when we take the field . Think about it Clemson and BC had 2 of the top 10 defenses and we scored 49 and 35 points them .
How tf did they swing a #10 recruiting class after a 6-7 year?
That stood out to me as well. My only thought was that maybe they had some momentum on the recruiting trail after the previous year, new exciting HC/OC, selling the kids on having turned the program around, and getting some commits before they crapped the bed the following season on the field, but were still able to hold on to their commits. That, or maybe something el$e was going on.
Because teams can recruit despite bad records, even though people here don't believe it despite evidence.
What teams with losing records have landed top 10 classes in the past five years? I see Texas, and Clemson was nowhere near in the same football class as Texas.
Point being, you don't see teams like Missouri or West Virginia or Cal landing top 10 classes after subpar seasons
Any examples that aren't traditional blue bloods? (And clemson is by no means a blue blood). I know Texas, Notre Dame, and USC could pull that off, but I would struggle to think of anyone else. Even Penn State didn't get back to top 10 recruiting until Franklin won 11 games
Because recruiting is a process that takes longer than 4 months to complete.
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A slightly scary point in there, too:
Clemson had a good year in Dabo's first year. Then dropped off in year 2, only to perform at about year 1 levels the following season. It took him four years to establish the level of success that Clemson has seen since.
Fuente did better than expected in my book in year 1. But years 2 and 3...I expect we're in for a swoon in at least one of the next two years before taking off under him. As I noted after the hiring of Loeffler, four years is the benchmark.