It's amazing how we've uncovered this huge anti-Hokie conspiracy by the refs in this league, led by Teddy V. Y'all are right, they're totally out to get us every night and it's totally not petty and childish to whine about the refs on a nightly basis and to make hatin on threads about the ref community. You know, because they are scheming games to let the opponents win.
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The ref whining may be overkill every game but college bball refs are really really terrible, led by Teddy V. himself. So inconsistent you think they just came from reffing 9 yr old rec league before the game. We are the the real culprits here because we still love to watch our Hokies but college bball as a whole is painful to watch because the refs aren't very good.
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There were definite missed/blown/bad calls, no doubt about it.... but that happens to every team. Are we always going to complain (especially after a win) every time it happens to us?
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I agree that complaining about every bad call is overkill, and starts to lose validity when we do it every game. I think we benefited from some calls in the unc game. It balances out in the end.
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He is just such a god damn diva. Shut your mouth and ref the game, nobody, literally nobody tunes into to watch Ted Valentine.
As far as I am concerned, there is no reason to ever know a ref's name. The fact that he has become a household name alone is absurd and speaks to his need for the spotlight.
He poked at retiring mid-season after turning his back to Berry and facing backlash about his pettiness. Nobody will miss his dumb ass. Good riddance, go home please and stay off national television.
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I can't decide what pissed me off more: him turning his back on Joel Berry like a child or getting in the UConn coach's face. Both are super unprofessional and a horrible representation for the conference that he is affiliated with. Joel Berry was a veteran player when that happened with a legitimate complaint. If he had addressed Valentine disrespectfully, he would have received a technical foul, as we learned last night with Chris Clarke. It's almost as if Valentine knew he was wrong. Same thing with the UConn coach. If the coach says something that sets you off, you're supposed to give him a technical. If you're set off by something that doesn't require a technical, maybe officiating isn't for you. I think we've seen time and time again that officiating isn't for Teddy Valentine anyway, though.
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I agree the ref-blaming can get out of hand at times. However... tonight was a poorly officiated game and not just because it hurt us. I saw refs reaching to make calls they weren't close to, a lack of any moving pick calls on both ends (a harped on point this year), and most importantly inconsistent calls throughout the game. If something is a foul with 8:00 left in the first half it should be a foul at the end of the game. As a ref you set a precedent of how physical each game can be played and it should be your responsibility to maintain that throughout the game. Tonight that did not happen and it greatly affected how the game played out in the last few minutes. A hatin on is not the worst thing but let's maybe leave the rhinos at home for this one.
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The comment went green. It seems to have paid off pretty well. Besides, any time you can get away with calling people assholes to their face with no real repercussions, I think you have to take it.
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This comes off very petty imo.... we have had many games in recent history that we led game in FTA by a wide margin and no one was complaining from our side. Shit refereeing happens. You think there are insiders wanting BC to win? lol.... No one is out to get us.
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If the ACC is playing favorites, why would they promote BC over VT? BC is NIT at absolute best, VT is looking to be on the bubble. If anything, the conference should be aiding us in these kind of games if there are any shenanigans going on.
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i believe the argument that has been made, and has been backed up with video evidence, buy many ACC fans from different teams, is not that Teddy plays favorites, but that he calls games to call attention to himself. He often makes calls to make blow-outs close, acts up when he makes calls, hams for the camera, etc.
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He does a lot of ACC and east coast regional games, starting to go more national for other power 5. Keep that name in mind and look out for him. He was on the UVA game last night.
He actually did many of our games when I was in HS, so granted, I've actively taken notice and followed his ascent.
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A quick google search of his name seems to back up your opinion. Pretty highly rated ref and the first article is about how he tuned out Wichita State's coach's wife (who had to be escorted from the arena by security) having a tantrum about him on the sideline. Good guy status confirmed
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I don't think the problem with TV Teddy is necessarily that he is an awful referee (which he is). The problem is that he thinks people come to the stadiums to watch him, and that is a huge problem. Therefore I'm all for the thread.
I remember a game where he made an awful call in Cassel (maybe 08 or 09) that lead into a TV timeout. Instead of heading to the benches, or the scorer's table like the rest of the ref's, he walked right over to the baseline, near VT's student section and stared into the crowd, waiting for someone in the stands to do something stupid. Didn't take long for him to be called an MF'er, and a technical foul was called on the crowd.
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As long as the crowd stays in the crowd, I agree wholeheartedly. Barring someone coming onto the floor or throwing something on the floor, something something sticks and stones. If he really T'd up the crowd for screaming profanities, he can enjoy Highty's rino dick.
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I didn't view this as sour grapes about calls. Teddy has a long standing reputation as an ego-maniacal asshat. By in large, he isn't that bad of a referee, but his antics are why everyone cringes when he trots onto the court. He is the referee version of that one NBA player's dad. He does it to get the people going. And it works. EVERY DAMN TIME.
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I love this thread because TV Teddy has been making himself the center of attention for years. There are numerous games, teams, coaches involved. That's what makes it apparent that he isn't biased against one or the other, it just has to be about him.
It has nothing to do with Virginia Tech alone or some ACC conspiracy to get us, and I am sure if you were to go to the game thread of the UNC fan base when we played them you would see a lot of the same type of rants because during the game we are fans regardless of our ability to evaluate more open minded once an event is over or discuss the action more clearly.
As for the game threads, guess what, look at the discussion above about the crowd getting T'ed up. That's all the game threads are at some points, fan reactions to individual sequences, so sure if you spend the time worrying about people ranting on game threads you are bound to be in for disappointment because it will likely keep happening. The officials are the number one area of college basketball that is the most inconsistent minute by minute so the most likely to be a topic of a rant.
Go look at the football game threads, they have a ton of venting about missed calls and or made calls, those threads just have a lot of fluff in between because there is more time between scoring plays and crunch time.
Last night though, as I pointed out in other posts, the officials sent BC to the line 16 times in the last seven minutes of the game but only nine times prior to that point, so there was a serious imbalance of whistles compared to how the rest of the game had been called.
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Valentine explained that he turned away from Berry out of a desire to avoid a confrontation. "I turned my back for one second. I didn't turn it for the whole time," he said. "Over the last two or three years, I've taken conflict resolution classes. In a conflict resolution class, they teach you to turn away. The ACC is a class league. The people in that league are trying to de-escalate problems. That's why you don't see technical fouls called in the ACC a lot."
Valentine repeated that he was, although he intends to work the ACC games this week to which he has long been assigned. "I am thinking about walking away from the whole thing because of all the social media," he said. "First you're guilty, then you have to prove yourself innocent."
This is why Valentine is such an awful ref. Both these "excuses" are 💩 & 🚮 .
Admit to your mistakes and #getbetter.
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I actually think he's a good official minus the baiting of players and coaches ... and when my O&M glasses are removed and I'm watching a non VT game. The showboating though is tiring.
Too many officials are unknowingly favorable to the home team and that's one issue TV Ted doesn't have.
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Ted Valentine brings crappy beer to the party, then licks the tops of the good beer to claim them as his own before tracking dog crap through the living room, clogging the toilet and telling the host the TV in his man-cave is too small.
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Teddy Valentine is a grown ass man that still goes by Teddy
A certain rough riding POTUS would like a word.
There are exceptions to every rule
Bully!
Bill Clinton? I don't get it
It's amazing how we've uncovered this huge anti-Hokie conspiracy by the refs in this league, led by Teddy V. Y'all are right, they're totally out to get us every night and it's totally not petty and childish to whine about the refs on a nightly basis and to make hatin on threads about the ref community. You know, because they are scheming games to let the opponents win.
The ref whining may be overkill every game but college bball refs are really really terrible, led by Teddy V. himself. So inconsistent you think they just came from reffing 9 yr old rec league before the game. We are the the real culprits here because we still love to watch our Hokies but college bball as a whole is painful to watch because the refs aren't very good.
He lets his ego get in the way instead of making the correct call. ex. CC
I don't think there is a conspiracy against us; however, I do think there were some missed/blown calls down the stretch that benefited BC. Fair?
There were definite missed/blown/bad calls, no doubt about it.... but that happens to every team. Are we always going to complain (especially after a win) every time it happens to us?
I agree that complaining about every bad call is overkill, and starts to lose validity when we do it every game. I think we benefited from some calls in the unc game. It balances out in the end.
Yeah, good ol' Ted has never done anything anywhere else to earn a reputation like that
He is just such a god damn diva. Shut your mouth and ref the game, nobody, literally nobody tunes into to watch Ted Valentine.
As far as I am concerned, there is no reason to ever know a ref's name. The fact that he has become a household name alone is absurd and speaks to his need for the spotlight.
He poked at retiring mid-season after turning his back to Berry and facing backlash about his pettiness. Nobody will miss his dumb ass. Good riddance, go home please and stay off national television.
I can't decide what pissed me off more: him turning his back on Joel Berry like a child or getting in the UConn coach's face. Both are super unprofessional and a horrible representation for the conference that he is affiliated with. Joel Berry was a veteran player when that happened with a legitimate complaint. If he had addressed Valentine disrespectfully, he would have received a technical foul, as we learned last night with Chris Clarke. It's almost as if Valentine knew he was wrong. Same thing with the UConn coach. If the coach says something that sets you off, you're supposed to give him a technical. If you're set off by something that doesn't require a technical, maybe officiating isn't for you. I think we've seen time and time again that officiating isn't for Teddy Valentine anyway, though.
I agree the ref-blaming can get out of hand at times. However... tonight was a poorly officiated game and not just because it hurt us. I saw refs reaching to make calls they weren't close to, a lack of any moving pick calls on both ends (a harped on point this year), and most importantly inconsistent calls throughout the game. If something is a foul with 8:00 left in the first half it should be a foul at the end of the game. As a ref you set a precedent of how physical each game can be played and it should be your responsibility to maintain that throughout the game. Tonight that did not happen and it greatly affected how the game played out in the last few minutes. A hatin on is not the worst thing but let's maybe leave the rhinos at home for this one.
Yes, I agree.... Complaining about the refs like this every game is beating that horse
Drop it together on 3?
Hey assholes, stop downvoting opinions. Alum has a point, he has made it clearly, and within guidelines. If you have a salient counterargument, make one. Or just go for the easy layup funny image. But don't be a coward and downvote.
Did you really call people assholes and then refer to the guidelines in the next sentence? Lol
The comment went green. It seems to have paid off pretty well. Besides, any time you can get away with calling people assholes to their face with no real repercussions, I think you have to take it.
(I have no particular dog in the meta arguing with people about anonymous downvotes/fighting about the forum rules. I just find this entertaining from a neutral perspective)
I just love that meme
That is completely acceptable and has been an established by moderator precedence, i.e. "Stay on topic, assholes!"
There's more whining about whining on here than actual whining 😂
So Teddy Valentine and a rhinoceros walk into a bar...
You win
This comes off very petty imo.... we have had many games in recent history that we led game in FTA by a wide margin and no one was complaining from our side. Shit refereeing happens. You think there are insiders wanting BC to win? lol.... No one is out to get us.
No one is out to get us, but that doesn't mean Ted Valentine doesn't suck
The rhinoceros can confirm. Ted Valentine sucks.
oh yea, I agree... he sucked balls.... had a bunch of missed/blown calls but this happens to every team a couple times during the season.
Seriously!
If the ACC is playing favorites, why would they promote BC over VT? BC is NIT at absolute best, VT is looking to be on the bubble. If anything, the conference should be aiding us in these kind of games if there are any shenanigans going on.
i believe the argument that has been made, and has been backed up with video evidence, buy many ACC fans from different teams, is not that Teddy plays favorites, but that he calls games to call attention to himself. He often makes calls to make blow-outs close, acts up when he makes calls, hams for the camera, etc.
You never know a good ref's name
If there is a God, by tomorrow this will be plaid.
Roger Ayers. Granted he's from Roanoke, but he's a damn good referee.
I've never heard of him, so 100% agreed
He does a lot of ACC and east coast regional games, starting to go more national for other power 5. Keep that name in mind and look out for him. He was on the UVA game last night.
He actually did many of our games when I was in HS, so granted, I've actively taken notice and followed his ascent.
A quick google search of his name seems to back up your opinion. Pretty highly rated ref and the first article is about how he tuned out Wichita State's coach's wife (who had to be escorted from the arena by security) having a tantrum about him on the sideline. Good guy status confirmed
Ironic since Gregg Marshall grew up in Roanoke as well... haha
Teddy Valentine is so bad, I would rather see Brett Farve come out of retirement again instead of TV Ted.
I missed the game, but apparently I missed something important concerning rhinos and Teddy V. Anyone care to fill a guy in?
I got to drinking a bit last night during the game, and at one point posted this gem in the game thread. Then I just kept rolling with it.
I don't think the problem with TV Teddy is necessarily that he is an awful referee (which he is). The problem is that he thinks people come to the stadiums to watch him, and that is a huge problem. Therefore I'm all for the thread.
I remember a game where he made an awful call in Cassel (maybe 08 or 09) that lead into a TV timeout. Instead of heading to the benches, or the scorer's table like the rest of the ref's, he walked right over to the baseline, near VT's student section and stared into the crowd, waiting for someone in the stands to do something stupid. Didn't take long for him to be called an MF'er, and a technical foul was called on the crowd.
You shouldn't be able to T up the crowd, imo.
As long as the crowd stays in the crowd, I agree wholeheartedly. Barring someone coming onto the floor or throwing something on the floor, something something sticks and stones. If he really T'd up the crowd for screaming profanities, he can enjoy Highty's rino dick.
You shouldn't be able to T up the crowd, imo.
You're so right, I upvoted the double, too.
Lol oops. Double dipping on accident.
How did we not get T'd up for the chant we used against Oklahoma State and Marcus Smart?
imo, you should not be able to T up the crowd.
Better be glad Teddy is not here to read that, or you da cost us a game.
A good waiter is one that you cannot remember after the meal but have no complaints about. The same goes for referees. Everybody knows Teddy.
I always wonder what Buzz is talking to refs about. He never stops talking to them.
Probably confirming with the other refs that working with Teddy is the WORST.
Not gonna argue about Ted, but a great waiter is one you never forget, for all the right reasons.
Teddy believes Enrico Pallatso is a great umpire.
Teddy Valentine wishes he was as good as Ref Jeff
I didn't view this as sour grapes about calls. Teddy has a long standing reputation as an ego-maniacal asshat. By in large, he isn't that bad of a referee, but his antics are why everyone cringes when he trots onto the court. He is the referee version of that one NBA player's dad. He does it to get the people going. And it works. EVERY DAMN TIME.
This guy?
You're talking about this guy right? Do I win a prize? What's my prize?
Teddy Valentine calls the "shit" "poop"
About time somebody remembered how to use a hatin' on thread!
I love this thread because TV Teddy has been making himself the center of attention for years. There are numerous games, teams, coaches involved. That's what makes it apparent that he isn't biased against one or the other, it just has to be about him.
It has nothing to do with Virginia Tech alone or some ACC conspiracy to get us, and I am sure if you were to go to the game thread of the UNC fan base when we played them you would see a lot of the same type of rants because during the game we are fans regardless of our ability to evaluate more open minded once an event is over or discuss the action more clearly.
As for the game threads, guess what, look at the discussion above about the crowd getting T'ed up. That's all the game threads are at some points, fan reactions to individual sequences, so sure if you spend the time worrying about people ranting on game threads you are bound to be in for disappointment because it will likely keep happening. The officials are the number one area of college basketball that is the most inconsistent minute by minute so the most likely to be a topic of a rant.
Go look at the football game threads, they have a ton of venting about missed calls and or made calls, those threads just have a lot of fluff in between because there is more time between scoring plays and crunch time.
Last night though, as I pointed out in other posts, the officials sent BC to the line 16 times in the last seven minutes of the game but only nine times prior to that point, so there was a serious imbalance of whistles compared to how the rest of the game had been called.
This is why Valentine is such an awful ref. Both these "excuses" are 💩 & 🚮 .
Admit to your mistakes and #getbetter.
If you have to take conflict resolution classes to better yourself as a referee, you shouldn't be a referee.
C'mon everyone... This is a message board. Poking fun is a big part of what we do here.
Ted Valentine just called a technical foul on this thread. Sending LeSabre to the line for two
I actually think he's a good official minus the baiting of players and coaches ... and when my O&M glasses are removed and I'm watching a non VT game. The showboating though is tiring.
Too many officials are unknowingly favorable to the home team and that's one issue TV Ted doesn't have.
Totally agree, minus the very big thing that makes him a bad ref, he's a good ref
Because he favors himself. Like an assclown.
Ted Valentine brings 18 items to the 15 item or less line and makes a big show about informing everyone that all the produce counts as 1 item.
Ted Valentine brings crappy beer to the party, then licks the tops of the good beer to claim them as his own before tracking dog crap through the living room, clogging the toilet and telling the host the TV in his man-cave is too small.
Ted Valentine kicks people's dogs, then tries to turn them in for animal abuse.
Ted Valentine complains about the selection of an open bar at a wedding he wasn't even invited to.
Teddy Valentine pours his milk before his cereal, then eats it with a fork and knife.
He tried pouring the cereal first once, but he was out of milk and then refused to put some water on that damn shit
He just turned his back on the bowl.
Teddy doesn't care for cake or pie, nor those who do.
Ted Valentine considers himself more of a sugar-free tofu cookie kind of guy.
Teddy Valentine wishes he was Ron Cherry. He isn't giving him the business.
Teddy Valentine is still trying to prove he should have gotten the acting job in the icy-hot commercials in 1977.
I legitimately thought FSU hired someone named Teddy Valentine to replace Jimbo Fisher, and we were getting an early start.
Teddy Valentine handed Dan Snyder a technical and sent Kendall to the Chiefs
Teddy Valentine Prancercises.
Teddy Valentine begins every game by channeling his inner Lenny Wirtz.
Teddy Valentine sees absolutely nothing wrong with how this game went down.
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