(OT) SOLO: A Star Wars Story (SPOILERS!)

I know most people were blindsided by the 1 minute trailer during the Super Bowl last night, for this movie. I knew it was coming and have been following the affairs of this movie pretty closely. Here is the full Trailer:

For those not aware; the original directors (Phil Lord and Chris Miller) were axed because the perception was that this movie was trending to far to the comedic side. Trying not to have a slap stick Star Wars adventure, Ron Howard was brought in as the replacement.

Personally, I have a bad feeling about this.

I do not think this movie is going to do justice to the legacy of Han Solo. Prove me wrong, Ron Howard.

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Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

As someone whose greatest childhood hero by a sizable margin was Harrison Ford, I am excited about this this, but nobody will be able to capture the character as perfectly as he did. I felt like they really crushed the Rogue One one-off story so I will remain optimistic about this one.

edit: used wrong form of "whose" originally.

Didn't realize Opie was the director. That gives me great hope.

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It just made me want a Lando movie even more...

please please please please cast Danny Pudi as a young Nien Nunb

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I cannot get enough Nein Nunb on TKP

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My fave, personally, was Sgt. Darth Gunnery (which, unfortunately, the original was taken down by 20th Century Fox on account of copyright violations, apparently).

Lando and Michael Scott shop at the same store

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Hype. Really has great potential with that cast.

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Rogue One was so much better then TFA, hopefully this will be the same to TLJ. Of course I have not seen TLJ yet so going purely off fanboy reactions...

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Has great potential with Howard directing.

The Cunningham Strikes Back.

In honor of Ron Howard taking over the director duties for this film, I highly recommend everyone check out these Arrested Development/Star Wars crossover memes. Here's one of my favorites:

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Lmao. HEY, NO TOUCHING! LES SIBLINGS DANGEREUX

I absolutely hated the last jedi, so I need this to restore faith for me. If its anywhere close to Rouge One, we have a winner.

It does have Daenerys Targaryen in it, so it can only be so bad....

I'm with you.

I didn't get involved in the TLJ thread on here because I was so incredibly disappointed in it and the thread seemed to be relatively positive...I didn't see anything happening but my blood pressure spiking.

Han is a badass, Rian Johnson isn't involved (thank god) and I hope they don't screw it up. If this goes well we need a Lando spinoff to follow.

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It does have Daenerys Targaryen in it, so it can only be so bad....

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Sigh....

I did not see this movie, but she looks fantastic in this picture.

Honestly I hated Rogue One.

It's just things you've seen before shoved into 90 minutes.

Considering the rumors around this I'd be shocked if it made it to average

Keep calm, Gobble on

Honestly I hated Rogue One.

Dafuq?

Next thing you'll say is you like Last Jedi and JarJar was an essential character.

JarJar is the key to all this, if we can get him working... because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before

Keep calm, Gobble on

Am I the only fan who doesn't think Star Wars has to be funny? There was so much forced humor in TLJ that it was awful.

There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.

I think there's a balance that can be achieved with the humor (such as the OT). Yes. TLJ was too force fed (in addition to the "past forgetting" propaganda).

I think there's a balance that can be achieved with the humor (such as the OT). Yes. TLJ was too force fed (in addition to the "past forgetting" propaganda).

eh eh?

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Every Star Wars film needed a villain. The first reboots had JarJar.

I'll just be over here waiting for a Grand Admiral Thrawn movie.

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The day that is announced is the day I am a very excited person.

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I'll give the film a.....shot first.

I just saw it. I need more hot takes.

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Saw it last night. Liked it, didn't love it. Chewy was awesome as always.
Millennium Falcon is awesome.
Paul Bettany character was pretty good.
Woody was good.
Lando good.
Khaleesi ok.
Didn't like this guy playing Han. To be fair, who can play a young Harrison Ford?
Lando's sassy love robot sucked.
Han shot first!!!

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I actually thought he did an admirable job considering the expectations. I think he could be good if they ever did any younger Indiana Jones movies.

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Didn't like this guy playing Han. To be fair, who can play a young Harrison Ford?

Actually, River Phoenix played a pretty good young Indiana Jones in the opening of The Last Crusade. Unfortunately, he is no longer available to play a younger version of Harrison Ford. OTOH, were he still alive, River Phoenix would be 48 years old, so he wouldn't be young enough.

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If only they could have found the guy that could play a young River Phoenix. Then he could have played Phoenix playing Ford.

Probably would've worked better than what they got.

Leonard. Duh.

Han shot first!!!

Will you people just freaking stop with the "Han shot first" crap?!? Saying that Han shot first implies that Greedo fired a shot afterwards. He didn't. At all.

HAN SHOT!

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I thought it was surprisingly good. I really enjoyed it.

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Same I got excited about the ending too

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Loved the final card playing scene. Then what that leads to....

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I liked it. Liked young Han. After the initial few minutes trying to get over that it's not Harrison Ford, he eventually pulled me into the character. I'm not putting this movie in my top 3 SW movies or anything but I think it's a solid entry.

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i read a lot of reviews about this film before finally watching it tonight. most basically said to leave our expectations at the door and let this be it's own film. so that's what I did.

in the end, i enjoyed it for the fun film it was but if anything saved it for me, it was the scene where Q'ira contacts Darth Maul. it showed how much deeper Q'ira's character was outside of the street urchin turned gangster.

we had an idea of her Teras Kasi (remember the old PlayStation video game, "Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi?") fighting abilities and it was fully confirmed when she took care of Dryden Vos easily.

for those who don't follow Star Wars canon, Darth Maul didn't technically die after that epic light saber fight between Quigon Jinn and Ben Kenobi. in the Clone Wars animated series, he's resurrected with mechanical legs to repair the damage witnessed in the first prequel. so he's essentially still alive (officially).

my conclusion is i'm cool with Alden Ehrenreich as Han, but loved Donald Glover as Lando. there's talk of a Lando spin-off and confirmation of James Mangold ("Logan") directing a Boba Fett film. for Star Wars geeks like me, it's enough to get my fill...

Really enjoyed it.

Chewy and Lando were killer.

Han Solo was really good. Tough to play a legend and I enjoyed that he at this time was still a positive minded character that had yet to be jaded by the smuggling life. I would love to see another movie with them running Jabba's job.

Everyone else was a mix of good to ok, which i think is fine as no one really detracted from the movie. Except for L3, which was a pretty poor comic relief, especially since the droid in Rogue One was so much better at it. I'm hoping the comical droid shtick doesn't get forced into every movie as it's getting old now.

Darth Maul reveal was really cool. One of best characters in Star Wars. I hope Ahsoka somehow pops up in his story line, or in her own movie.

Really enjoyed it was really impressed with the twist of khalessi working for Darth maul which if that's where they pick up with another movie like say the Kenobi movies where he hunts maul down whooooo wee that's nice

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I would fanboy too hard if Ewan McGregor would reprise his role for a Kenobi movie.

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I'm fairly certain that is all but confirmed, even if the movie isn't. He already did slight voice work for the force awakens.

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If they did a follow up with him as Kenobi I would literally die

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Took the family to see it today.

Had a great time. It's not a classic or anything, but fun film for sure. I thought the guys channeled Han and Lando really well (and Glover's performance was more interesting than Mr Colt 45 imo), and getting to see Chewie being a badass was awesome.

I thought the marauder group was a pretty good twist, and Maul showing up was excellent (and not out of place considering the canon in Clone Wars)

I thought the Maul bit was beautiful especially for all the super fan boys who knew what he was my girlfriend had no idea he was still living so it blew her mind.

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I still haven't seen it, still on the fence/joined the boycott against Kathleen Kennedy & Rian Johnson after TLJ.

My suggestion? (I'm not insisting it is worth much) Get the hell over it. If you are expecting movies as good as the original trilogy, you will never get them. The Last Jedi wasn't great but it was just trying something else. Old shit is still there. It's Disney, they will make money, but they don't have to make people happy.

Regardless, this movie was fun. He isn't Harrison Ford and Gambino isn't Billy Dee. But the entertainment value is there if you can just let it go.

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It was more the blatant disrespect from Kennedy & Johnson to the fans. I don't mind new stories and things, provided they don't suck and are consistent. It's not that I want the franchise to fail as much as I do Johnson & Kennedy. I'm enjoying the backlash they're receiving.

Where was there blatant disrespect? Is it just the decisions in the movie or have they said something outside of the film to make people angry?

If it's just the movie direction in TLJ, it's the fans' fault for deciding how things should go before they happened on screen.

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Quotes from Kennedy such as "Luke Skywalker is not a relatable character" as well as pigeonhole comments from Abrams about "fans feeling threatened" are extremely disregarding and disrespectful to fans.

It's not the fans fault for expecting the movie to be above a certain level of plot complexity and entertainment value gimme a break

It was the fans that wanted some predictable family connection and an emperor2.0 storyline just like the original trilogy and now they're upset because TLJ proved (at least for now) those presumptions false.

Personally I'm very pleased with the direction they took with Rey's lineage. Everybody complains that movies these days are just remakes and crappy sequels. It's good that Star Wars is getting away from the Skywalkers.

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Glover is a MUCH better Lando. There I said it.

I don't disagree, honestly. But it has to be based on something. I felt that he did an amazing job conveying he was the same character that was walking around the halls of cloud city talking about how he had grown up.

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completely agree

Nah

From someone who hated TLJ I thought Solo was pretty good. I have a couple gripes but they're easy to get over. Overall a pretty good film, better than Rogue One which was also decent

Man, I tell ya, this, basically is the most apt summation of TLJ to me:

I love Donald Glover but I don't think he played a good Lando. Lando to me was very smooth. Gambino character was goofy and quirky. I imagine it's more the writing but still it was jarring

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Lando after years of experience was smooth. It's the same thing with Han. Han after his years smuggling was the cynical, aloof Han we all knew before. This young Han hasn't experienced what he needs to act that way yet though, that's why the Han in this movie was a little more naive and excitable. That was my impression anyhow.

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precisely

I guess, but that kind of seems like using off screen passage of time as an excuse for not being true to the character. If they develop Hahn and Lando and show them change from naive and goofy into cynical and smooth respectively I will totally get it. Otherwise, it just feels like Donald Glover dressed up as Lando instead.

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Hahn

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I spent a lot of time in Hahn North. I actually met my fiancee there.

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How would they show that within the scope of this movie though? With the exception of the initial 3 year jump in time, all we see is a few days of Han's first big job. Would have been weird to see them develop that much in that time.

I think they might be talking about potential sequels considering there's still around 10 years before A New Hope.

I heard a Trilogy.

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I thought the Maul reveal was setting up the Obi Wan movie which would be awesome, but I heard the next one might actually be Boba Fett who gets hired by Maul to go after Han. Both of those could be pretty cool.

*Side note I hope that Rebels becomes non cannon along with everything outside of Season 1 of the Clone Wars. The Maul reveal is cool enough on its own without the story in between and I'd rather him and Obi Wan's fight be settled in the movie instead of a cartoon. Also the Clone Wars went a bit out of bounds with the whole Mother Talzan thing.*

This just doesn't make sense. So what you're saying is that unless you get a full character progression between these characters at a young age and these characters at the age of original trilogy you can't understand how they would might be a bit different? .. lol... seriously? what 20 year old person is the same as their 40 year old self? people change man. It's interpretive and you can disagree with aspects of how they played the nuances of the characters but it would have been boring as shit to see Han and Lando as the exact same people they were in the original trilogy.

Otherwise, it just feels like Donald Glover dressed up as Lando instead.

this is kind of what actors do...

LOL I feel like you have the exact opposite opinion of everything I post here.

I don't need to know every detail about Han's life but an origin story is supposed to explain how they became who they are. Going into this movie I expected 1) How he met Chewie. Check. 2) How he met Lando and got the Millennium Falcon. Check. 3) What happened in his life to make him so cynical of the rebellion and unwilling to help others without his benefiting his own self interest.

I get that in real life people change in 20 years, but there needs to be continuity. If they made another Harry Potter movie 20 years later and Harry's suddenly an asshole or in the next Iron Man movie Tony Stark is suddenly timid and shy, there needs to be a reason. Actually speaking of Harry Potter, when the original Dumbledore (who did a great job playing the character according to the source material) passed away he was replaced with someone who put a much more intense spin on the character to the detriment of the continuity of the story. He went from like kind old Grandfather to grumpy old man seemingly for no reason.

When the Obi Wan movie comes out it needs to bridge the character gap between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. The character should show how he went from proud Jedi Master to sand hermit.

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Of course, that may still be coming in terms of Solo, since they might make more films. Based on where they left it, there's definitely more time to show that change.

I'd say similar with Obi-wan. But with Obi, there are 20 years between Revenge and A New Hope, so they could potentially milk that with even more movies. The thing with Obi-wan, though, is that he was supposed to be laying low to not draw any attention to himself. I would imagine as a Jedi Master, a lot of time is spent in keeping connection with the Force without much need for other stuff.

Agree

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Totally agree, I think this was a lot more of the case for Lando than Han. Gambino acted very different from Lando in the OT, he would've flipped shit when Han won the falcon that way, or there'd at least be a scowl. I also didn't get how chill he was about not making any money the whole time

So being betrayed by the girl he loved and also his first mentor/father figure wasn't enough reason to start becoming cynical?

I liked that they showed Han being much more optimistic than we see in ANH, but him not seeing himself as a "good guy" as Qi'ra told him was very key.

He is a good guy. He has always been a good guy, no matter how aloof he plays it. We saw plenty to show that he was but doesn't see himself that way. In what way is that inconsistent with the Solo we came to know first?

this guy gets it.

1) How he met Chewie. Check. 2) How he met Lando and got the Millennium Falcon. Check. 3) What happened in his life to make him so cynical of the rebellion and unwilling to help others without his benefiting his own self interest.

1 and 2, check as you say

3 is where we differ. Wanting what you say is fine, but needing it to like the movie is another thing.

Sure, I want to see that too, however if it's not there and they show the characters before life truly has gotten them down I am cool with that too. Mostly because I expect there is more to the story, which they alluded to with Darth Maul, Q'ira and Han and Chewie leaving to meet a certain gangster on Tatooine. Those are massive stories to be told which can provide what you are wanting. Needing it all packed in to this single movie is another thing.

I personally felt this origin story was less about his transition to cynical smuggler and more his origin of becoming a smuggler itself. How he got into the life. I appreciate the fact that he is not the Han of the future yet because it shows depth. And they are obviously explaining how the ever cynical Han of the future that only looks after himself actually is a hero at heart. There's an origin for that beyond simply wanting to get into Leia's pants and before the story of him becoming the cynical smuggler.

I will be satisfied if they can show the transformation in the coming films and it will make a lot more sense as a piece of something bigger.

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I feel like if nothing else that Solo is in the camp of SW films where you actually feel like there is other shit happening in the galaxy besides what you are watching, tons of the scenes have small moments referenced, or in the background, or tangibly just off screen that it actually feels like a large galaxy. Rogue One made the rebellion/important groups feel larger than like 12 guys, so did Empire, arguably so did Revenge. And thats something I really appreciated.

And my frame of reference and how I was going to judge it were always going to be how I felt they compared as an origin to the old Han Solo Trilogy books of the EU. And man were they PEAK Pre Prequel EU books of the late 90's, arguably only the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy out did them for old school EU'ness.

And in that I find it an ok alternate, really funny in its moments, and if some more of young Han ever makes it to screen could be a really nice story all told. And it really comes down to what we feel most likely to shape a young street rat into the cynic we meet years later in that cantina. Be it love of his life he is force to leave behind that he meets again but she is now much darker and betays him to fully embrace that darkness. Or young love who leave him and he meets years later who has become darker but has a noble cause that she is even willing to betray him to help.

The books, especially the 3rd in Rebel Dawn have some amazing scenes in them but man can other parts blow.

I also really liked Glover as young Lando, we could have had a bit more of an edge to him, but he jives with the mental image I have always had of old Legend young Lando and his friendship with Han. And that Woody Harrleson got to play himself in a Star Wars movie, because he served his role admirably I felt, and was a great synthesis of older version of Han's mentors and brought a refreshing energy to the concept. Vos was just so-so as a villain, loved the attitude Paul Bettany had but its the fucking Underworld! Lets get some more alien crime bosses in major roles, hell lets put a Hutt on screen that isnt Jaba.

But my God the Lore! From Bossk getting the shoutout, Carida, the DL-44 as it was getting broken down into a pistol, the entire non stormtrooper Imperial Army, the Hell that is Kessel. It isnt Legends, but thats also kind of good because by the end it was a fucking mess. But the homage to the little things, like a Wookie out there who obviously taught young Han some of the language, help bridge that gap and tap into the premade depth that is right there when Disney wants. To say the team from Kennedy and RH on down don't get, care about the fans, or respect SW as an idea I would simply counter, they didnt have to do any of that shit and could have saved themselves the trouble but they did it anyway because they clearly care too even if some have a very 'no true scotsman' mindset and find only their version of fandom acceptable.

Would have been really great to see or have Nar Shadda and Nal Hutta referenced at least though, and not sure im a fan of this version of Corellia, am glad they deleted Han's extended family tree, that shit was tedious as fuck with the Sal-Solo's.

Ill say 7-7.5/10 I can live with it as a young Han tale even if there are parts of other versions of the story I like better.

Saw it. It was ok. I thought the actors were ok. Woody and Gambino were the best. As said before, Chewie was awesome. The Falcon was dope.

Plot was too thin. I felt like I spent two hours on Star Tours, the Star Wars themed virtual ride at MGM Studios. This movie made Rogue One look like a cinematic masterpiece.

Leonard. Duh.

Tbf I grew up living and breathing star wars and as an adult I feel like Rogue One is one of the best films.

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I'm with you, Frank. Rogue One is up there with ESB. My opinion is that none of them are cinematic masterpieces, but most of the movies contain very creative plot devices where the math checks out. This one just felt barren... not a terrible movie, just fluffy and theme park like.

Leonard. Duh.

I feel like Rogue One might be the best Star Wars movie released since Empire. That is the only one I still will watch randomly of the new ones

Anyone else wondering why all of the movies that Darth Maul shows up in are sub-par? Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed this movie, but it was definitely a weaker entry in the series

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Because he was a villain who was specifically designed to sell toys and merchandise and lacks any substance as an actual character. I get that the EU may have developed him but as far as the movies are concerned he's just an apprentice lackey that barely speaks and has no clear motive besides power?

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Yep I really have no rebuttal to that, it makes perfect sense.

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Jeez am I the only one who liked this movie? I legitimately liked it more than any of the other films since Disney took over. And I went in completely expecting it to suck too.

Yup. Pretty much. Nah, j/m.

Nah, I loved it. 10000000x better than TLJ

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I liked it a lot. Better than TFA R1 and TLJ for me. So I guess that's the best in the new era?

Rogue One destroys them all.

Leonard. Duh.

Maybe someone can help me....so Darth Maul appeared when Han was....10 years younger.

We also see Darth Maul when Anakin Skywalker is like 8 years old?. So either Maul is REALLY old or something about the timeline isn't clicking.

Phantom Menace is, I believe, an estimated 20 years (give or take) before Solo. Solo also takes place roughly 10 years before A New Hope. There is alot of backstory to Maul after the events of Phantom Menace. He didn't die, had spider legs for awhile, and then gets a robot bottom half before the events of Solo.

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I always thought the Darth Maul arc from clone wars was really trippy. Felt like they were bringing him back in because they couldn't advance the main story line too far without running out of material before attack of the clones.

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I definitely agree that Maul should be dead and remain dead. I mean Qui Gon just got stabbed and then they lit him up and let him burn. Seems like they may have given up too easy on fixing him.

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Yes I agree, being cut in half isn't something you can just come back from.

Mace Windu fell out of a window over a highway packed with speeders (that we'd seen Anakin and Obi Wan jump on) and he "died". Seems like the much more logical character to resurrect.

I think they just need more "bad lightsaber dudes" to have a story interesting enough to turn into three more movies.

Maul has a lot of fans that really like him and are mad that he was wasted for a hack setup for Obi Wan. Lucas shat the bed when he wrote Ep 1 (and 2 and 3) but he really fucked up the decision to kill Maul. How badass would a Maul v Vader fight to be #2 have been?

anyway, for a premise about an intergalactic space war a long, long time ago where aliens abound, some of which essentially have superhuman abilities, fly in retro steampunk machinery with future tech like hyperdrive and lightsabers, living organisms in space like worms in meteors and giant fucking space octopus, space warfare that seems to always happen head on when you could surprise a mother fucker by flying half your armada around the god damn planet, literally planet sized weapons that absorb the energy of the sun and harness it to destroy multiple planets at once across the galaxy and having half your body burned off by lava yet you still survive... I think Maul surviving being cut into two just goes with the hyper-reality that is star wars.

I'm still not getting this. Dark-side always has an apprentice and master. Sidious has always been the master.

If Maul was still alive...when did he die for Vader to come into play. I still feel like I'm missing something

I get where you are going. There is a reason he was called "Maul" later instead of "Darth Maul". After the events of TPM, he dropped the Sith ways. That's when Darth Tyranus came into play.

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Dropped the Sith Ways? thats a hard pill to swallow....

Oh dont get it wrong, he was still absolutely 'of' the dark side, just off doing his own thing, and his general hatred of Obiwan meant that since he was keeping a pretty low profile it wasnt worth the time for Palpitine to deal with him as it was mildly beneficial at worst for a time. That does change though when he hooks up with a group of Manadlorians for some good old 'Regime Change'. Legends at least was full of Sith factions disputing each others legitimacy even under the Rule of 2, so its not too outside the realm of believable in universe.

But he still hangs around looking for old force related artifacts and even eventually tracks down Old Ben for one final duel.

Why didn't they use the same Maul? This guy's still around (and older!)

We put the K in Kwality

You mean as the voice? The guy who voiced him in Solo is the same guy who voices him in the cartoon. As for the live action actor, that was and still is Ray Park.

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No. As Maul. He played him in Ep 1.

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I'm not a Doctor, but a quick IMDB search will show that Ray Park played Maul in both Solo and Episode 1.

Edit: Peter Serafinowicz(your pictured guy) was the voice actor in the Episode 1, Sam Witwer(voice actor of Maul in the cartoons) is the same guy doing him in Solo.

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gonna' guess he also burned a few bridges with this interview...

It's Christmas time, so I finally got around to watching Solo. I know, I know, I'm like 3 years behind...

It's a good movie, but after watching The Mandalorian, I enjoyed Solo, where as without The Mandalorian, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.

It's a vast galaxy. There's lots of stories to tell. Intertwining them, using TV series' and movies, should make future projects fun.

I hope to see Qi'ra in the new Kenobi movie with Maul.

Childish Gambino as Lando? Hell yes.

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Solo got a lot of hate when it came out, but I really enjoyed it. Seeing Han and Chewie meet was great!

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Yeah I never got the hate. It wasn't a masterpiece but was entertaining. I think a really underrated part is when the "pirates" unmask at the end and its clear that Han helps kick start the Rebel Alliance unknowingly.

I liked Solo a lot too (I own it on blu-ray). I think the hate came from just unluckily following a very divisive episode 8.

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My theory is it got a lot of unwarranted hate because people were predisposed to hating it for a couple of reasons. The first being it came out just a few months after The Last Jedi, which was a polarizing film. So if you didn't like TLJ, being so close to its release, you still had a sour taste in your mouth. But the other reason, and this really only applies to hardcore fans that follow the news and such, Solo had a lot "trouble behind the scenes" rumors. It had switched directors, writers, and underwent a few rewrites. So people that knew that stuff (including reviewers), were basically expecting something bad.

I knew all that stuff and went in with low expectations and came out pleasantly surprised. It's not a bad movie at all. It's not perfect and some parts could have been better, but I thought it was a good launching point for the story it was gonna tell and I'm bummed that its "flop" likely means we won't get any more movies to tell the rest of the story.

I liked it as well but I definitely think it suffered some with the director change mid filming. I'm curious what was going so wrong for the Lego Movie dudes for them to get axed and for Ron Howard to be brought in to finish it. I think if it had a single director start to finish, maybe even Ron Howard, if it would have been a different movie.

It was a fine movie and i liked it. If ranking star wars movies its probably top half. But the only issue is that the guy that played Han was just not Han. Though I do want a Lando movie, Donald Glover was great.

That's a good point. I agree with that guy just not having the same charisma as Harrison.

There's a Lando disney plus series coming although I believe Glover has not been confirmed yet.

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I am hoping they make it a bit grittier/edgier than normal Disney stuff. I get that you want to cater stuff to kids, but a lot of your traditional fan base is getting older. I think Rogue One was my favorite of the new movies simply because it wasn't a total fairy tale movie.

I doubt they will because it will be on disney+, they are trying to keep the content younger. But I agree a more adult Lando show would be better.

a more adult Lando show would be better.

I agree

Since this came up, I decided to watch it again. I hated TLJ and TRoS is literally unwatchable for me past seeing it opening weekend so I thought maybe as mentioned above that TLJ just left a bad taste in people's mouths and it transferred over to Solo.

I found the issue. John Williams didn't write the score. We're going to have a tough time when he's gone.

Seeing John Williams conduct his music live was a bucket list item for me I was thrilled to check off a few years back. Saved up a bunch of coin for that experience and don't regret it one bit. Things won't be the same when he's gone. I think Danny Elfman, Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, and some other people will help fill the void, but there's only one John Williams....

I really like the score on Mandalorian - the composer has a cool segment on the Behind the Scenes from S1

Solo is still a better movie than Return of the Jedi.

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This is as bad as French's opinions on cheese and Greg Maddux

I slept really hard last night but I didn't think it was enough to go back in time. So weird to see all this chatter about Solo all the sudden lol.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.