Ask TKP: What's your most biased Virginia Tech sports opinion that you will think is true no matter what?

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There may be some overlap in responses from TKP given it's repurposed with a Hokies slant, but believe this thread has promise.

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Eff Matt Ryan!

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why cut yourself short?
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FUCK MATT RYAN!!!

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

It's not biased if it's true dammit

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill


YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO

"You know when the Hokies say 'We are Virginia Tech' they're going to mean it."- Lee Corso

26? In this scenario do we miss the extra point after Danny coales TD?

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Fan of Hokies, Ravens, NY Giants, Orioles

Well, we were playing with a backup kicker and Coale was the punter that game.

God Bless

MV7 is one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game and he would have won a Super Bowl one of the years he spent in prison. He revolutionized the game and would absolutely shred all these QBs that get compared to him.

Also T-Mobile is better than half the QBs in the league. I think he could make playoff runs on the right team. Personal note because my old roommate is a huge Mariota fan: Tyrod is way better than Mariota. Mariota is overrated and will never really be a top tier QB like people want him to be.

Vols Fans are more delusional than LOLUVA

Hokie in Tennessee

Browns will be in the playoffs this year.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Again? /s

I don't think Russell Wilson is any better of a QB than Tyrod. His situation is just better.

Danny Coale caught the ball!!!

Oh, wait...you said opinion. Coz it's a fact!

Edit: Dammit. Beat by 50 seconds with the pic.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

MV7 should have won the Heisman in '99. Ron Dayne won it because of his entire career body of work not that seasons.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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^This is spot on.

As far as the Danny Coale catch. That's not bias. Can't be biased over a fact.

Leonard. Duh.

Fact!

We would've beaten USC in 2004 if not for one of the worst offensive pass interference calls of all time.

all maroon everything

Much like Danny's catch, this is a fact.

Go Hokies

Absolutely.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I just gave that post the 100th vote and made it go plaid. That just made my Monday!

Enter Sandman is the greatest entrance in College Football

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

Why are people posting facts. Joe said opinions.

MV7 is the greatest collegiate QB of all time. On top of his incredible running ability that we all know and is widely considered among the greatest of all players of all time, people forget just how incredibly accurate a passer he was at Tech. He was the complete package to the fullest extent.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

makes my ankles hurt every time, but damn...

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

well eff JMU

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My lower back hurts just watching that.

i think i felt a pop in my knee

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This was my first game attended as a student freshman year

This is the first game I remember attending, but my parents told me I was at a game against Temple a year or two earlier. Tried looking it up but I'm not sure it even happened.

I was at that game... and that was awesome!

I seldom speak to loluva grads, but when I do, I tell them I want large fries.

Enter Sandman blows the doors off of whatever the hell Clemson does

Danny Coale caught that ball

The VT football program is generally disrespected by the media

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

My MOST biased opinion is that Coach Beamer and Coach Foster were the trailblazers of the 90's and early 2000's in college football and the so called "elite" coaches still copy their tactics today.

"Beamerball" 30 for 30 absolutely should be a thing.

Leonard. Duh.

"Beamerball" 30 for 30 absolutely should be a thing.

Abso-freaking-lutely!

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me.

Doesn't 30 for 30 pick topics with some sort of controversy around them? What is controversial about Beamerball?

The Miami game in 2003 is the gold standard for Lane's gameday atmosphere.

Go Hokies

Without a doubt

Stick it In should be brought back

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

should have never left!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

It was thanks to some NC State fan with their panties in a bunch that wrote and complained shortly after we joined the ACC, right?

I heard at the time that it was one of the Worsham family that complained about the cheerleaders "movements" during the chant that did it in. When your name's on the field, you have some pull.

There is nothing in the world like Thursday night in Blacksburg!

Stick it in is stupid.

Somebody had to say it.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

Bud Foster has been the best Defensive Coordinator in college football for the past 15 seasons. He can have a pass whenever the F he wants.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Came here to post this!

All sports: Martin Brodeur was the best NHL goalie ever. Mariano Rivera was the best MLB closer ever. UMBC > UVA will never not be hilarious. Super Bowl MVP awards are basically meaningless

VT: Frank Beamer doesn't get enough national recognition. Night games in Lane are an unrivaled experience in college football.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm most guilty of slipping into the "VT can't win big games" line of thought. It's complemented by the "VT always loses a game they should win" line of thought.

As for other common VT gripes that haven't yet been mentioned, I'd say:
Bud Foster can't defend mobile QBs.
Our coaches have never been able to close on big recruits.
Heather Dinich is a giraffe.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Scot Loeffler ruined any chance of LT being a top tier QB.

Sam Rogers is VT's own Rudy story (with more success)

There has never been a better College Gameday that matches up to the one's held at Virginia Tech in the 2000's.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Scot Loeffler ruined any chance of LT being a top tier QB.

FTFY

Scot Loeffler ruined any chance of LT being a top tier TE.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Please explain why Josh Allen was a 1st round QB and Logan Thomas should have been a TE in college?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Shit Rudy ain't got NOTHIN on Sam Rogers. Sam Rogers bust up Rudy's azz.

VT sweeps Ohio State if Brewer doesn't go down on the first drive of the second half.

I heard the exact same thing from Brewer himself.

Greenburg was a dick behind the scenes and made VT seem like a bunch of whinny kids on National TV for every time the Dance would come around. He also whiffed on Curry.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Greenburg was a dick behind the scenes

I know this is just going to make people want to know more but I have several "behind the scenes" stories that I really can't tell on an open forum. Long story short, you got a leg from me.

Using /s is for cowards.

...I have several "behind the scenes" stories that I really can't tell on an open forum.

Why not? He's been gone from Virginia Tech for 5-6 years now.

I just really want to hear them. And Emma does, too. Do you want to hear them, Emma?

"Yes I am going to have favorites. My favorites are high production and low maintenance players, coaches, and staff." - JMFF

That's dirty bringing Emma into this... but unfortunately the stories involve other people still with the program.

Using /s is for cowards.

Change the names to protect the innocent, duh

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I mean I am going to be super vague and broad but he was a super arrogant asshole and I'm being nice.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I thought you might have NEW stories...

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"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I've met him and his family in person. His daughter's were really nice and seemed like good people while him and his wife were bratty ass-hats. It honestly made me assume his kids were raised by a nanny or something to be complete total opposites of Seth and his wife.

He was super cool at least one time. I was walking from the Lane parking lot to my dorm in the pouring rain and he stopped in his Escalade to give me a ride.

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Michael Vick is a changed man who has turned his life around and has paid his debt to society.

I have gotten in way too many internet fights about this. I can't believe how many people are willing to overlook or forgive worse offenses done by people who received little to no punishment for their actions.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

It shouldn't be glossed over just how sadistic and sociopathic Vick's actions were. He deserved everything he got for what he did.

But I agree 100% that his transformation is genuine and impressive. Even the stories I read about him while he was still in prison showed a man than was repentant and had a much wiser philosophy on life. Since being released, he's basically been (more than) a model citizen. I used to hate him, now he makes me proud when I hear him speak.

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me.

God Bless Tony Dungy

The NFL QB positions will never be played the same because of MV7 and deserves a serious look for Hall of Fame.

Actions off the field dont matter according to hall of fame committee. Right Ray Lewis and Marvin Harrison.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

The North end zone is a god-awul place to experience a football game after the age of 20.

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Virginia Tech does not get the recognition it deserves for how consistently good the program has been for decades. VT's last losing season was 1992. Alabama went 4-9 in 2003. Clemson went 3-8 in 1998. I know college football is all about championships and how recently those were won (unless the "winning tradition" argument comes up). Which... I would we have a "winning tradition" for the last 26 years!

VT entered the top 5 in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2009, and 2011. That's pretty damn good.

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I can't stand how I will always feel like we squandered the 2011 season. Clemson was the only reason we didn't play for a title and this simultaneously allowed them to grow into the power they are at the moment. If we kill Clemson in 2011 I think we trade places

Free Hugh

If we kill Clemson in 2011 Stinespring may still be in Blacksburg in 2018.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

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If we kill Clemson in 2011 I think we trade places

Do you mean we trade places in 2011 (we win an orange bowl) or that our program today is in the same spot as Clemson is today?

You can argue the former, but the latter is ludicrous. The Beamer administration had cracks in its foundation when it came to recruiting and offensive. There's no way that staff/athletic department could have built what Dabo has since built at Clemson.

Why not? We've been to a championship before and that success carried us through the 00's. If we nail clemson in 2011 its not a stretch to think the undefeated ACC champs play for the title that year against LSU. Win or lose the recruiting from that gets capitalized on in the perfect time as recruiting services and the internet continue to consolidate power. (Also tinfoil hat time: I do think Clemson did something dirty to get their recruits going into 2011).

Free Hugh

The only way we reach the title game in 2011 is by sweeping Clemson and going 12-0. And besides, reaching the title game in '99 didn't do a whole lot for us in the following years. Vick got us back to 11-1 in 2000, but then we spent a few years in relative obscurity before re-emerging as a threat upon moving to the ACC in 2004.

You're probably right about 2011. Considering a scenario where we avenged our loss to Clemson:
Alabama who already lost to LSU and didn't win their conference got in ahead of 1 loss conference champ Oklahoma State and 1 loss Stanford. Before the conference championship weekend we were behind Oklahoma State by 5.5% in the BCS standings. It would have required a significant change in the polls to have us jump not just Oklahoma State and Stanford, but also Alabama. The only way I can possibly see that happening is if we curb stomped Clemson even worse than what they actually did to us. And then we'd just have to hope the polls wanted to avoid an all SEC national title game (which looking at the polls it did not appear to be a big enough concern for the media since Bama edged OSU out there).

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

In the BCS era, there hasn't been a single championship team that didn't have at least two top 10 classes in the four years before their title. In short, I don't think the administration was capable/willing to capitalize on the hypothetical 2011 success and turn that into recruiting success over the next 5 years:

  • No disrespect to Jim Weaver, but I don't think his administration would have invested the in the team. Without unwavering support from the athletic department, I'm not sure we could hire the staff required to recruit at a top 10-20 level 5 years in a row.
  • Beyond limited supported from the athletic department, I question that staff's devotion to recruiting. QB recruiting during that time was especially bad.

Additionally, I don't think that offensive staff could have won a national title under any circumstances. The best chance was 2010, with insane talent at the skill positions and a veteran OL. And that opportunity was squandered. I'm also convinced Beamer was not hiring new staff unless forced (like 2012).

I have serious reservations about believing that. Dabo has to clean house at Clemson to get them where they are. Beamer only started making changes when his hand was forced. We can also pretend that VT was on the up and up starting in 2004 with the move to the ACC but I am now beginning to believe that moved masked our problems as we entered a weak ACC. At the same time the ACC started getting better we were really regressing. We were getting the, "10 wins, what more do you want?" attitude from the coaching staff, but it was clear that we were playing too many close games with teams we should have blown out. A perfect storm was brewing and the sky fell in 2011. Resurgent programs at Duke, UNC, Wake Forest and Clemson presented challenges we were not facing from 2004 on. Simply winning two games against Clemson in 2011 would not have had us switch places. Clemon's 2012 success wasn't built on 2011 recruits. For Clemson to get the players they had in 2011 the process would have started in 2007 which predates Sweeney as HC. Sweeney just proved from 2009 on that he could take over the program and within a couple of years get a new OC and DC. Clemson may have looked like they came out of nowhere but in reality they had simply been getting better year after year while we stagnated.

Wayne Ward made the greatest block in the history of VT blocks!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Logan Thomas had the second.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I love that normally when a defender sees a QB thinking about blocking they take the chance to get in a shot, but McCloud sees LT coming and braces for the eventual ass-whooping he received. Must be Quin Blanding's idol.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I thought that was a fact. Didn't he ask for opinions? ;-)

I was there. This should be plaid.

There is nothing in the world like Thursday night in Blacksburg!

Oooo I remember another one:

This block is the hardest hit in the history of football

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Grant Wells, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

"Trey Edmunds should have stayed at linebacker"

-half the people on this site

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Back when I was 9 years old, I remember saying in early September that someone was going to come around that just...got it.

Someone with the prescience to know what was right from what was popular...

I got the same feeling in late November of 2012. I knew that a revolution of common sense was afoot.

Someone who was the... RealDiehl...was about to drop the truth on all of us.

Thank you, RealDiehl, you've restored my faith in what is true.

Stars matter.

"There has to be someone better than Motu at middle Linebacker! He can't play" - anytime we lost

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

-Michael Scott

-Jack Crow

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

My most biased VT-based opinion of all is that French simultaneously has the best film write-ups and worst taste in food (outside of being Team Pie)

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Of the comments I have claimed that need to go plaid, this may be the most worthy.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

" If we had more money, we would get better players and win more games" - sorry I had too

If I can't laugh at myself then life isn't fun.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I believe the phrase is: "No money, no good recruits".

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I think Lane Stadium was better before all the upgrades. My favorite seats ever were in the old (wooden?) bleachers under the scoreboard and behind the bushes in the South End Zone.

Gobble Till You Wobble

I wholeheartedly agree. I really dislike all the pump up music, quizzes, etc... Every time I go it feels more and more like a pro stadium and less like the Terror Dome. That is a bad thing.

Disagree with this. I think its better to have the fans engaged in between timeouts/scores/commercials. Before music, quizzes, etc. there were a few years where people were just totally disengaged for minutes between these things because of twitter, intagram, etc.. Sure, the music could be cut a little quicker to allow fans to get back into cheering mode before a play, but football is entertainment and part of that is entertaining people when there is no action and the lesser of two evils is having them pay attention to something produced by the stadium.

"Now Miami wants to talk about it." *Cue Enter Sandman*

You can't disagree with it, it's true no matter what.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Huh?

"Now Miami wants to talk about it." *Cue Enter Sandman*

ASK TKP: WHAT'S YOUR MOST BIASED VIRGINIA TECH SPORTS OPINION THAT YOU WILL THINK IS TRUE NO MATTER WHAT?

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i c wut u did there

"Now Miami wants to talk about it." *Cue Enter Sandman*

Football and basketball national championships are within reach and will, in fact, be acquired.

Also, most Hokies don't get a fair shake in the NFL. These are probably the 2 foremost

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Grant Wells, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

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Most everyone is posting facts, not opinions.

Kirk Herbstreit used to love VT but turned into a Hater

Kirk Herbstreit catches too much flak and is whatever any fanbase wants him to be at that moment.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Kirk Herbstreit NEVER loved Virginia Tech. He'll say nice things about VT when they play Miami, because he really doesn't like them. He gets excited about the favorite, as long as they're not playing the Big 10.

He loves Ohio State and the Big 10.

He literally had to move out of Ohio because he would give commentary on Ohio State that wasn't glowing. He might have a B1G slant, but I think he's about as unbiased as one can be.

I think he would have done that whether he went there or not...

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Agree 100%. The dude calls straight up ass whoopings against OSU's favor (OU vs. OSU this year) and takes it like a champ. He gave Mayfield and Oklahoma a ton of credit and kept on commentating that game. None of us could watch our team get shellacked like that and still maintain composure.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I dare say if we got paid his salary, we'd find a way to do that.

But it's true that if I had that job, I'd still be an ACC and VT homeboy. Doesn't make me more tolerant of him waxing on about how great Ohio State/the Big 10 is, though.

No amount of money in the world can take the orange and maroon out of my blood. I would be a total ass on screen.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Is that you Greenberg?

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Unpopular opinion, Kirk Herbstreit is an ass clown who is only on TV because of the way he talks and maybe knows a little bit about Qbing but overall is a bad analyst who makes garbage picks.

This is ironic because I thought I had the unpopular opinion on Herbstreit (I like him). I think he's knowledgeable and fair and I don't think he hates us at all. I think he's objective in his assessments of all teams. Except Ohio State, then he's overly critical to avoid being called out by Michigan fans who call him out anyway.

Funny how college football fans all have different opinions when it comes to Kirk but our opinions are all based on the same evidence.

Eh...I believe Kirk believed in us when no one else did, but...we had a propensity for not winning the big ones..and he kind of lost his faith in us.

VT hasn't hit the ceiling yet, and has a pretty good story to tell recruits, including an awesome atmosphere for football, world-class facilities and coaching, and a family atmosphere.

VT needs to rebuild it's in-state recruiting, because there is talent that could be staying in state instead of going to the Big 10. This isn't a short-term thing, it's a long-term thing.

What VT needs to do for recruiting is to win big games. The next two are at Florida State and at home vs Notre Dame.

The next four are Miami at home, the ACCCG, and the CFP.

Let's get past Florida State and Notre Dame first. Then we'll talk about the rest.

But you make a great point. Miami is a priority this year.

All Sports: Quite a few but one example is Henrik Lundqvist is vastly overrated and doesn't deserve the title of king

VT Specific: Mike Vick is the most electrifying player of all time.

...That's what Maryland does.

I don't give a damn what the fans think cause, quite frankly, I know what the fans want better than they do.

It's fairly inexcusable for VT not to have a National Championship in any team sport.

I'm just curious, why does nobody count/care about our 17 national titles for track & field even though they're individual titles?

You answered your own question. Individual titles are not counted.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Well that's dumb.

Sort of already been addressed earlier...

Tyrod Taylor is a better QB (in college and NFL) than Russell Wilson.

Yes,that's the Hokie Bird riding a camel. Why'd you ask?

If we would have survived Tyrod getting through a redshirt year, we would have won it all in 2011.

Alright let's see, we win the Natty in 2011 if we had Tyrod, we win it in 2010 if we cover Boise on that one play. Basketball every close loss to Carolina has been because of the refs especially acc tournament back to back in 2008 and 9

Oh man.

As long as we're doing this: we win the NC in 2001 with Vick, with other potential chances to win coming in 2006, 2007, 2010, and 2011. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd have 5 21st century natties.

But especially 01. No way we lose to Syracuse with MV7, we're able to outgun Pitt the next week, and that Miami game....we almost won that game with Noel completing as many passes to the Hurricanes as he did to his teammates. With a healthy Vick...it's probably still close, but a win.

#hawtBeardtakes

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Grant Wells, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Man, I love the O&M-tinted view here, but put Vick on that 2001 squad and have #1 Miami coming to Blacksburg to face #2 VT and it's a toss-up at best. With the amount of hype going into that game, Miami is going to be better prepared than pretty much any other game that season, and that '01 Miami squad is among the best teams ever in college football.

My "biased Virginia Tech sports opinion" is that if Wilford had caught that damn ball, we would've beaten one of the best teams in college football history.

but the whole point of this is to put as much O&M tint as possible on it. So that's what I did

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Grant Wells, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I don't know how tinted that view really is. VT lost by 2 points at home with Grant Noel going 4/16 with 4 INTs. Vick in at QB is not a toss up. Kevin Jones ran for 165 yards on the #1 team. We had a total of 81 receiving yards and lost by 2 points. Andre Davis had zero receiving yards. From what I can tell he played in that game. Vick to Davis was a sure thing the previous two years. Noel lost out to Bryan Randall the next year which basically tells you what his level of play was. Randall wasn't spectacular but we has reliable and consistent.

2001 Miami was a powerhouse. On the morning of December 1, 2001, they were 10-0, #1 in the nation, fresh off of consecutive 59- and 58-point blowouts against #15 Syracuse and #11 Washington, respectively. They had no reason to believe that their game against #14 Virginia Tech would be any different, and to this day I believe that they pretty much took that week off as a result, and it almost bit them.

If we are #2 in the nation at 10-0 instead, which I firmly believe would have been the case if MV7 were still in town, the amount of hype surrounding that game would have been unavoidable. Miami would have come into that game ready with everything they had. Vick was certainly better-equipped to beat Miami than Grant Noel, but given the circumstances and the fact that we shouldn't have even been anywhere close to competitive in that game (by the way it was 26-10 before a couple huge plays pulled us to within 2) I believe a VICKtory would have been far from guaranteed.

9/11 was an inside job.

Wait, sorry. Um, We could have swept Ohio State if Brewer hadn't gone down. Believe that 100%.

Also, 2010 was the year for us to win it all, but Boise messed it up and everyone thought JMU would roll over in the rain, but they didn't. And then we started playing to our true capabilities and won out the rest of the season.

and won out the rest of the season

Am I the only one who remembers the Orange Bowl? The defense that year was overmatched against any top 30 offense.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

there was a lot of Luck involved

Not the bagman VT deserves, but the bagman VT needs right now.

I meant regular season, but yeah, the Orange Bowl happened. That one particular year the offense made up for the defense's short comings, unless O'CainSpring started smoking crack in the booth and took the ball away from the hot players.

We win the natty in 2006 if Marcus Vick hadn't done Marcus Vick things and been kicked off the team

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Fuck WVU.

Marshall University graduate.
Virginia Tech fanatic.
Formerly known as JWillHokieAlum.

Exactly!!!!!!!

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We give Marcus a lot of sh!t on this site, and rightfully so, but we still need to be able to give credit where it's due. And he deserves credit for this.

Yes. Yes he does. Why I posted. The younger generation may never know the true WVU, and that may be a good thing.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@VTnerf on insta, @BuryHokie on twitter, #ThanksFrank

We were screwed out of completely deserving bids to the 2001 Fiesta Bowl and the 2010 & 2011 NCAA Men's Tournament because of a conference that didn't care enough about us to vouch for us when it mattered.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Lane Stadium missed it's chance by not installing a giant animatronic Bud Foster head that shoots fire on the Hokie Vision Jumbotron. I even submitted a rendering.

FOSTERS: Australian for defense

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Friendly reminder to donate to the Hokie Club to help make projects just like this one into a reality.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

WTF is with that cartoon drawing of California on the side of Bud's face?

No wonder he's breathing fire.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

It's an animatronic jaw

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I get that, but damned if it doesn't look like CA with a little face.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

FOSTERS: Australian for defense

Virginia Tech was the obvious and best choice for ACC expansion.

Is that biased? Was there any way on earth that Syracuse or Boston freakin College made more sense?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

VT beats JMU if they didn't lose to Boise St the week before. VT then goes on to play for National Championship.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Most of mine have already been mentioned, but yeah if Marcus comes back in 2006 and actually kept his head on straight, we have a legit national title run that season. No way we lose to BC and GT in the regular season, and we handled WF that year who ended up winning the ACC. BCS title game vs Ohio State I think we win. Maybe not in as utterly dominant fashion as UF did, but that OSU team was way overrated, as were most of their teams in the Tressel era.

Other than the 99 team, 2005 and 2009 were two of our best teams ever, with 2005 arguably the best top to bottom. 2003 was probably the most disappointing ever. 2004 was probably the most overachieving.

2003 was probably the most disappointing ever

Agree. That team was talented but for some reason could not play as a team.

When they actually played together they produced the spectacular win over Miami. I felt, on that night in that atmosphere, VT could have played anyone and won.

Then they followed up with the loss at Pitt, then finished out with the bowl loss where Aaron Rodgers shredded VT and laughed all night.

Don't know how we made it to this post without mentioning the hatred of Aaron Rodgers for having fun playing football. I can understand the vitriol toward Matt Ryan because of the circumstances and Harbaugh because he went out of his way to embarrass our defense but the Rodgers thing has always perplexed me.

And I'm a guy with a list of enemies in my signature.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

VT makes the playoffs last year if Evans, Hodges, and Ford return.

And all three of them plus WR Cam Phillips get a ton of press throughout the year, with all four being drafted within the first three rounds of the 2018 draft - that's right, QB, 2 WR, and a TE/WR all drafted in the first three rounds.

Some Heisman press for Evans, who by the end of the season can truly "see the field" and can find his third and fourth options on every play, passing for nearly 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns.

Cam, Isaiah and Bucky all have over 1,000 yards receiving and 10 touchdowns.

The running game comes alive with all of the focus on the WR corps, team rushing nearing 3,000 yards on the year, and even the younger WRs get some work with a true 7-8 WR rotation by the end of the year, keeping all of them fresh and explosive, passing the torch to the younger guys for the upcoming 2018 season.

Hokies average 45 points a game, scoring over 30 points in every game, with several games over 70 points, ACC Champions, National Champions, 15-0.

What could have been ...

Holy shit.

This guy TKPs.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

I don't think this is nearly as farfetched as it might seem. I'm not sure about ACC champions or national champions but I think the offense would have been prolific.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Cam, Ford and Bucky each having 1,000 yards definitely isn't far fetched considering that almost happened. We just needed a rushing threat that wasn't a sweep or Evans.

Erick Green is the most dominant player I have ever seen in person relative to his peers. I've watched a lot of basketball in my life, I've never seen a guy have that much attention, that little help, and still be one of the most efficient players in the last 20 years. The fact there isn't a spot for him in the NBA shows why I can't understand that league.

Rip his freaking head off!

We would have a national championship in football with a competent OC during the Stinespring era.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

If only someone had started a blog telling people he should be fired. Maybe Beamer would have known to do the right thing.

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

A packed Cassell is one of the best CBB atmospheres in the country

Busch Light is and forever will be the best Tailgate beer.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

What? Not Yuengling???? I thought the Lot 18 family loved that. I mean it lasts forever.

And before you boys have a holy royal hissy fit and threaten to evict me from the tailgate, yes I am being sarcastic... :-p

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

As someone who lived in Philly for almost 15 years...

...if I never see another Yuengling Lager again, it will be too soon. If someone handed me one at a party, I'd eat the bottle before I drank the "beer". Their Black & Tan is barely drinkable.

Chesterfield Ale, on the other hand, I find delightful. Go figure.

Re the original assertion that Busch Light is best: mmmmmokay. I'm a Miller High Life guy myself, but if I'm drinking light beer, Busch Light utterly destroys Bud/Miller/Natty/Beast Lights

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

We still have Yuengling from 2014 I think. STILL HAVE IT. It bred like tribbles.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

I thought you finally got rid of it all right before the Spring Game.

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

What did you do with it?

Kill weeds on the Drillfield?

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

My dad drinks nothing but Yuengling. And I have a friend who goes out and asks for a Lager, and gets mad when they ask which one. He annoying assertains that there is only one Lager. It drives me insane.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting for someone else to say it:

THE KEY PLAY IS THE BEST FAN SITE IN ALL OF COLLEGE SPORTS, HANDS DOWN, BAR NONE, END OF STORY, PERIOD.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

I do not believe that was up for debate. But I'll give you a free pass.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Well, I mean, it's not up for debate on here.

But it's a big world out there. Some people don't know.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

Zumwalt should have been tossed from the Sun Bowl.

'07 Mechanical Engineering

"Touchdown, Tech! I have never enjoyed saying that more"
-Bill Roth

The whole damn ship class should be scrapped

Keep calm, Gobble on

Them's some expensive razor blades.

Leg, because it'll be my job to fix it when it breaks down.

'07 Mechanical Engineering

"Touchdown, Tech! I have never enjoyed saying that more"
-Bill Roth

At the fellowship of Christian athletes breakfast in 2013(?) I told tyrod he was better than Russell Wilson. I still stand by this statement

exit light

Edit: Every year my prediction for VT football is 15-0 National Champions

13-0 only gets us to ACC champs.

David Wilson eats Chic-fil-a on Sundays

Hmm... This could start a Chuck Norris like list of things about David Wilson...

David Wilson doesn't run out the clock, the clock runs from him.

Virginia Tech is the one and only DBU.

Clapping during enter sandman looks stupid

You put those words together, those are my favorite words, Popeyes and bahama
- Mike Burnup

Me during Enter Sandman

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

If team recruiting rankings and camps were a thing from 1999-2005, VT's recruiting would have consistently ranked in the top 10 nationally and touching the top 5 for a few years.

Is this KO!?

You know it!

The 2013 team finishes with one regular season loss if Kyle Fuller stays healthy.

That is so crazy to think that a cornerback had such an impact on a team's record. Is there another non-Offensive skill player that anyone can easily say had that much of an impact on the team?

Our entire defensive units from 02-07. And again from 12-15.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

VT wrestling will win a national title before any other program.

I jinxed it. I'm sorry.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

While it might seem that way since we've become a perennial top 10 program, the gap between the top teams (Penn State and Ohio State) and the others is quite vast. For context, VT has had 2 finalists and no individual national champions in our history. Penn State had 4 individual national champions this year and 5 last year. They've won 7 of the last 8 titles and don't look to be slowing down anytime soon.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

The coaching change impacted that gap last year, too. We are still a rising program, that's gotten a lot better at recruiting top talent and having SERTC on campus is a huge positive in that development. And, I believe because of those things wrestling has a closer shot than any other program at the school.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

My money is on Women's Soccer or Women's Lacrosse. Men's Basketball is a distant third in terms of probability for a National Championship.

"Nope, launch him into the sun and fart on him on the way up"
-gobble gobble chumps

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

I feel like the only answer is Indoor Track considering we came damn close to winning the title this year.

Rip his freaking head off!

I say Nike pays 150 grand to a AAU kid that happens to like Buzz Williams (imagine that?, Weird?) and we get a really really great recruit one day- and in hoops you don't need much more than that with a good coach. I say hoops wins one before wrestling.

We win the 2001 championship if Vick comes back. Also, him leaving early caused other dominos to fall, such as Randall not getting a redshirt, which could have kept Marcus around in 2006, which means maybe Tyrod doesn't have to play in 2007, and we WIN ANOTHER CHAMPIONSHIP in 2011 with a R-Sr Tyrod.

Mike leaving hurt but it didn't cause all this, Marcus being a fuckup is what truly killed us in the QB room.

Oh I know, but the totally biased and unreasonable side of me still thinks we win the ACC in 2004 AND 2005 if Randall is the QB.

I wish I lived in this Grant Noel, Virginia Tech 3rd string QB world.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

If we beat Matt Ryan (the first time) we go to the National Championship. Also if it's not raining, we go to the national championship. Also if we didn't all move down to rush the field, we go to the national championship. Also we probably lose that national championship...

Taylor... looking desperately...now throws it DEEP..HAS A MAN OPEN! CAUGHT! DANNY COALE! ALL THE WAY! OUT OF BOUNDS, at the three...

Frank Beamer is a legit hall of fame coach that got there on merit, not on "Bud Foster's back" and/or "weak" conferences/schedules. Frank Beamer knew plenty about offensive football and did not take advise from Kyle Tucker or Jason from Arlington regarding play calls. Frank Beamer's Top 30 recruiting classes in his final years were legit and not inflated because kids had VT offers.