Tech Tidbits: Defensive Depth Chart Takes Shape, But Big Cornerback Questions Still Linger

Reflecting on the Maryland scandal, and parsing Bud Foster's remarks on the state of affairs at LB, CB and more.

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In many ways, following college football requires a sort of willingness to look past the sport's many, many structural deficiencies because of the highs it can deliver, for players and fans alike. Rarely has that sort of tension been more obvious this offseason.

Leaving aside even some of the ugliness we've seen come out about Urban Meyer and Ohio State in recent weeks, the revelations about Jordan McNair's death and the state of Maryland's program have driven home just how imperfect college football remains.

In the wake of all we've learned about D.J. Durkin's methods, I think it's reasonable for just about any college football fan to look inward and wonder: is the culture at Maryland the exception, or the rule?

That's why I appreciate that Justin Fuente did address the issue at Tuesday's media availability, before moving on to the nuts and bolts of fall camp, even if he delivered just the sort of answer you'd expect on the subject.

"I know I've never been anywhere where our training staff, our team doctors, our strength and conditioning staff, our nutrition staff has ever been more on the same page in terms of caring for our student-athletes," Fuente told reporters.

I sure hope he's right. I know it's something that's been on my mind as I've anxiously followed every heartbeat of camp leading up to the season, squaring my excitement for the upcoming year with even the smallest shred of doubt that the same culture that led to a man's death exists at the program I've invested so much in over the years.

But then, in many ways Fuente's comments leave a lot unsaid — it's not just about all the different facets of the staff being on the same page. It comes down to the tone set by the guy at the top, and what will (and will not) be tolerated or excused.

Fuente's always won rave reviews, not to mention comparisons to Frank Beamer, from players and coaches alike, so here's hoping my concerns aren't justified. But I do sincerely hope that what we've seen this offseason forces a lot of self-reflection from college coaches, in Blacksburg and elsewhere.

Now, enough serious talk. Labor Day approaches.

Cornerback Depth Looks...Just Great

Bud Foster had a ton to say about the way the defensive depth chart is shaping up. But one of his answers only generated more questions at Tech's most uncertain position on defense, perhaps on the whole team.

I was perhaps mildly surprised when Foster said he felt Khalil Ladler was the clear starter at free safety, given how good Divine Deablo looked to start the season — he later added that Ladler can also play nickel and rover, opening up more room for Deablo on the field, which makes a bit more sense.

The comment that really caught my eye concerned (you guessed it) the cornerbacks.

Sure, it's certainly good to see Farley emerging as a starter, given the expectations the staff seem to have for him. But what about the rest?

Tech's official transcript shows that Foster specifically said Waller and Quillen have "been in and out with some things going on," but no one followed up on that. Presumably he's referring to only minor injuries for each, but boy would it be good to have a little clarity right now.

Because if one of the team's most experienced cornerbacks is meaningfully hurt — a phrase that does indeed refer to Quillen after this brutal offseason — to say nothing of a promising young guy like Waller, then the depth situation is even more dire that it initially seemed.

Foster had nice things to say about both Armani Chatman and Nadir Thompson as well, so I suppose it's good that the young guys are getting some time to make an impression.

But if you felt nervous about Tech's situation at corner before Tuesday, as I think most Hokies fans did, that throwaway line will only exacerbate those fears.

Dax Surging?

Foster was particularly talkative Tuesday, delving into the situation at linebacker a bit as well.

The upshot is that there doesn't seem to be much change to the starting pair of Rayshard Ashby and Dylan Rivers, but it sure seems that Dax Hollifield is living up to the hype.

Foster would later add that Rivers "has taken a step ahead of everybody else," but he reiterated that "I really like what Dax is about and they're both going to play at that spot."

If Hollifield really is pushing Rivers already, I'm not sure if it says more about the staff's confidence in Ashby (whom both Foster and Fuente heaped praise on Tuesday) or Rivers' growing pains.

In either case, it's probably all very good news at a position where the Hokies are replacing two talented starters.

A Good, Old-Fashioned Kicker Competition

With Frank gone and Joey Slye holding down the starting kicker spot for so long, we've had positively sparse special teams talk for the last few offseasons.

Largely, the same has been true of this one, until now: we're finally starting to learn a bit more about who will step in for Slye, now that he's gone.

Special teams coordinator James Shibest says he still hasn't made a final decision, painting it as an open competition between redshirt sophomore Brian Johnson and redshirt freshman Jordan Stout.

"I like both of those youngsters, Brian and Jordan," Fuente said. "I think they're both talented. Brian got to play a little bit last year when Joey was kind of suffering from leg fatigue, I guess, if you will. And we'll continue to kind of evaluate that and go back and forth."

But while Johnson may have the game experience, making three of his four kicks last year, Shibest says Stout has the "stronger leg." Accordingly, he suggested Stout was a sure bet to handle kickoffs, even if he doesn't ultimately win the starting job.

No one would've mistaken Slye for being the strongest kicker from distance, but his excellence on kickoffs was underappreciated and won't be easily replaced. Luckily, it seems as if the Hokies will have some options on that front, even if it isn't clear who'll be manning field goals just yet.

I'll leave you tonight by saying that I'm quite jealous of Josh Jackson in this respect.

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Just some reactions-

1) I still expect that Dax is taking reps at both mike and backer. That may have slowed his grasp on the game plan. I would fully expect that if Ashby got hurt, Dax would be next man up there. I wish there had been follow up on Kearney and Griffin. Tisdale would have been the 4th backer either way, so his injury may hurt the depth at whip or bandit (dime) more than at backer.

2) Nadir Thompson has a odd little hitch in his gate when he has popped up in the Instagram feed. I am not sure that I buy him being fully healthy. Watts being the guy isn't a surprise. Farley was pretty much just a question of health. He had to be really good to pull him away from WR after how he looked in 2017 spring ball.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

It's always a comfort that Bud had his ducks in a row, and things are looking good. In Bud we trust!

So you're telling me Brian Johnson doesn't have a Big Gun?

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Sounds like our special teams will be Back In Black[sburg] this season. If we don't play well, then the whole season is on a Highway to Hell. If we play well, then Have a Drink On Me

The news we're hearing about DAX and his physicality has me Thunderstruck. And it appears the new commit, Dean Ferguson, is a Heatseeker too. That kid's got big Balls! 2019 RB commit Keshawn King also looks electric. His High Voltage running style screams "I'm gonna Walk All Over You".

This season could be Hard As A Rock or it could end up with a VT appearance in the ACCCG against the Riff Raff of Clemson. A win there puts us in the CFP where I'll be screaming, with HorseOnaTreadmill, "Have A Drink On Me" too!

If there are too many AC/DC references there them please Shoot To Thrill and not to kill.... /s

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

If there's any way I can help the team, I know a guy who can do some dirty deeds and at a competitive price in relation to the hitman marketplace.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

Not at all surprised to hear that Jordan's leg is pretty...Stout

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Damn orange and maroon and everything

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

We seem to have sufficient depth at all secondary positions besides cornerback. With the program's history of shuffling defensive backs and trying them out at new positions, I wonder how much of that has been done so far this camp with some of the more experienced guys. I'm admittedly not the best at evaluating skillsets, but how do others feel Diablo's abilities would translate to corner?

Deablo is pretty tall and has great length. He also has flashed great range in his early time last season, that suggests to me that he is both fluid in his movement and has a great deal of speed. Now that doesn't necessarily mean he would make a good cornerback, but it could be an Adonis type situation. That said, I would much prefer to see Deablo emerge as the starting free. I'm stoked that Ladler seems to be ready to shine as a part of DBU, but he never really struck me as a free safety.

Slye was a beast at kickoffs but every field goal attempt had me pinching a hole in my couch.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

I love Joey Slye, he was a true hokie through and through, but I have to admit that I was never as confident as I wanted to be when he lined up for a FG.

That has been me with every kicker since Shane Graham.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I think Chris Hazley missed one field goal total iirc.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Yes. But by the time he was kicking, I was no longer playing so every kick was an adventure in my acid ridden gut.

Every field goal is was more excruciating than the three point result for me.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Even that weird-ass 67-yarder Slye tried at the end of the Duke game that one year? To me that was the most stress free field goal I've ever watched.

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

It's easy to be stress free when you are certain of the outcome haha

yeah I was more worried about the return on that one.

to bad he couldn't kick FGs off a Tee. im pretty sure he got more through the uprights on kick offs than FGs in his career. not a knock on joey. but when youre about 80% on kick offs through the uprights its hard to beat that on FGs.

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I remember being pretty confident in our kickers during the Pace-Keys-Hazley era, but perhaps my memory is failing me.

To be fair, I think a lot of that came from him missing 3 FGs by about a combined 4 feet to start the year. That WVU game was brutal in that regard.

Are our safeties shorter than corners now? Ladler is 5'11, Farley 6'3, Watts 6'1, Floyd 6'0. Alexander at 6'3 was moved from safety to corner. What does this all mean and does the height matter really at all if you're over the 5'10 threshold?

Not sure about the difference between what the coaches look for at the safety and corner positions, but I do recall a comment being made to the effect of "we prefer to recruit tall cornerbacks, Stroman was the exception to that rule".

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Stroman played like he was built like Bucky Hodges, though.

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

And vice versa...

I thought the Ladler/Deablo arrangement was different than I heard from Fu on Tech Talk Live. A recap from TSL, maybe it's consistent:

On Divine Deablo and the safeties...

Divine is super talented. He's had a couple of almost freakish injuries with his foot. But he's healthy, and wee managed him throughout camp to try to get him to the season. He's just a great kid and a great worker. Khalil Ladler is another one that gives us, we refer to it as artificial depth, he can line up at all three safety positions. He can line up in the alley, he can play free safety, he can play rover. Really pleased with him. Really sharp. Great communicator back there. Reggie [Floyd] has been really steady for us. Chamarri Conner is the next Reggie. He's number 22, and Reggie's number 21. We call him Reggie, Jr. He just reminds you so much of him. He's absolutely one of those young people that we're super excited about. We've got Devon [Hunter] who has made huge strides, he took just about every rep in the spring. DJ Crossen is a youngster who shown some really special coverage skills, and he has a bright future.

I heard that and thought the same thing.

Bud normally has been able to support his young CBs with veteran help at S; lets hope the S is able to fill this role this year even though they will not have much game experience.

I think the "Great communicator back there." portion carries a lot of weight. I think that whoever, Ladler or Deablo, keeps the secondary more organized and can provide more pre-snap assistance to the CBs will start.

Unfortunately, when I read those bits about Deablo that makes me think he's not back to 100% or something. If they are still carefully managing him through camp that makes it seem like they are afraid it could be re-injured and re-aggravated. Foot injuries can be really terrible, so it's not so difficult to understand their concern.

I certainly understood TTL to mean that Ladler is a utility player off the bench, not the starter.

Yeah, that's well put. Surprised to see Bud say he's the starter. Grandpa Bud playing some mind games?

I think the Marchiol petition to the NCAA will have a huge impact on running safer programs.

If the NCAA grants Marchiol the ability to leave Texas A&M & play this year due to the

documented mitigating circumstances that are outside student-athlete's control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete,

then every coach will be forced to adhere to a standard of well-being of their players or risk having players publicly use the unsafe training/coaching as justification for transferring without losing a year of eligibility.

One of the new insights from the Transition at Tech article to me was:

Foster recalled talking with Fuente about expectations and why the program had been so successful under Beamer. They spoke of ethics. How demanding of players should coaches be? Where are certain lines drawn?

I think A&M is already trying to spin his complaint as a way around losing a year of eligibility and there is nothing there.

And I have no knowledge who is actually right or wrong.

It's time to separate the men from the boys. Starters stepping up. LET'S GO!!!

1-0 every week

HOKIES!

The combination of youth and talent on the defense makes me hopeful and nervous at the same time. I kind of wish this was one of those seasons where we didn't play anyone of note until 5 weeks in. This feels like one of those teams that gels as the season wears on.

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I agree, but the Defense "on paper" appears to be faster in the backend.

Divine Deablo - long free safety
Reggie Floyd - Veteran Leader
Bryce Watts and Caleb Farley - track stars that will come up and hit as well.

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What was she thinking???

She wasn't!

Sometimes it pays to be last...

Bronco?

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

This does seem like a very UVA thing to do
#breaktheribbon
#ohshit,wedroppedtheribbon
#notacc-caliber

mistake #1- drop the ribbon
mistake #2- step out into traffic
mistake #3- step back into traffic instead of forward to safety

Most people would cut their losses after the first mistake. Not this girl. This is very LOLUVa.

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credit her for the tackle even though she didn't wrap him up!

Hokie in West Africa...sadly, I can't jump up and down hard enough for it to be felt in Lane

Is Bronco offering her a scholarship? Seems she would fit right in with the 57 other non-P5-caliber athletes they have.

"Yes I am going to have favorites. My favorites are high production and low maintenance players, coaches, and staff." - JMFF

She can't do any worse than Blanding v. Kumah