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Who's ready for another year of gambling and hot takes! We're back with your weekly dose of relatively terrible (and mostly fake) gambling advice. By now we all know the set up, but there are a few changes:
First, Pierson left us. By us, I mean me. Apparently he has to do things like be a "husband" and a "dad" and an "employee." Ridiculous, right? But luckily we have someone else on staff whose gambling issue is just as self-destructive as my own, so please welcome Joey Coogan!
We'll also go beyond Tech's weekly game, and delve into some of the bigger matchups around both the ACC and the rest of the country. We'll still focus on the Hokies, but take deep dives into whatever interests us each week.
And lastly, because Joey and I are both competitive and pretend like we know how to wager, we're going to keep score this year. Obviously it won't be on everything (it's impossible to judge who won last year's mullet rankings), but we'll star the ones that'll count towards our total score, and we'll keep it updated every week.
If you're a fellow degenerate, play along. If not, please keep reading with a slight hint of shame in your eyes.
On to the (fake) lines!
Over/Under: 39.5 Times you can hear the tomahawk chop on TV.
Brian: This is totally dependent on how you think the game will go. If the Hokies come out and punch the Seminoles in the mouth, the crowd (who tends to get a little bit of lemon booty whenever something goes wrong) will get quiet quickly. But if the Tallahassee talent shines (on the field, not at the tailgates), and the Cam Akers train gets going, we're all going to be in for a long night of incessant chanting. I think Akers has a big day, coupled with the fact that the fans down in Doak Campbell will be witnessing a modern college offense for the first time in program history, and I think we'll hit the over.
Joey: For some unknown reason, I made the poor life decision of going to this game. I've never been to Tally so here's to hoping it lives up to its uniquely Florida reputation.
Joey: So how's Tallahassee?
Bad Influence #1: Oh, it's ratchet.
Joey: Sold!
Unfortunately, this also means that I won't have the pleasure of muting my TV midway through the first quarter after Cam Akers rumbles off a 60-yard touchdown run to start what promises to be a long night. My commitment to you, the reader, is that I'll be counting tomahawk chops live in person and doing my very best to not get in a fight with a single Jameis-loving, Jimbo-hating Florida State blowhard.
*Over/Under 249.5 passing yards for Josh Jackson*
Brian: The Hokies need to run the ball to be successful. It means they'll control the clock and give the defense time to rest against Willie Taggart's gulf coast offense. But I don't expect things to go as planned. FSU's interior defense will wreak havoc on a lot of the inside stuff for Steven Peoples and Deshawn McClease, which will make Fuente and company rely on their sophomore quarterback to make plays.
Mason wrote a great article about how to attack the 'Noles' new defense, and it'll require some fades, RPOs, and deep posts off play action. Should Jackson be accurate, I think he'll hit the over.
Joey: Brian knows as well as anybody that I wasn't the biggest Josh Jackson fan last year. He showed glimpses, sure, but the consistency that you look for in any high-level quarterback was sorely lacking.
This is a good line, one that I have no interest in laying anything but internet currency on. That said, judging on rumors alone, I think Damon Hazelton and Hezekiah Grimsley do just enough on the perimeter to hit this over.
P.S. If you're a live gambler (read, if you're a degenerate), this is the classic bet you know the result of within 1 drive. I still like the over. Take that for what you will.
*True or False: Cam Akers will outrush Virginia Tech*
Brian: This is mostly just hyperbolic "sky is falling" thinking, but are we sure this isn't in play? Tech broke 200 yards in just five of their games last season (West Virginia, ECU, ODU, UVA, Oklahoma State), and hovered much closer to 100 yards multiple times. Containing Akers will be the deciding factor as to whether or not Tech can keep this close. If they contain the FSU rushing attack and force Deondre Francois to beat them both on the ground and in the air (which he can also do, by the way), Foster's defense will have done its job.
Or Akers pops a huge run early, circa Ezekiel Elliott in 2015, and the defense has to play on its heels the rest of the way. Considering that I won't trust the ground game until I see it work, I'll (definitely not reverse jinx it) and say true.
Joey: I alluded to it above, and I really don't have much to add. Cam Akers scares the hell out me. Combine that raw athleticism with a Tech defensive line that may need Tyrone Nix to take some snaps at tackle and we could be in for a long night.
That said, I'll actually take Tech here. I like the trio of Jackson, McClease and Peoples to approach 200 yards in rushing (we'll call it 180), and Bud Foster selling out to stop the run should keep Akers around 150 or so (phew, that's a depressing sentence).
Over/Under 2.5 Times Bobby Petrino's face becomes the same color as Louisville's red.
Brian: In case you didn't know, Petrino's Lamar Jackson-less Cardinals are 24.5 point underdogs to Alabama in their neutral site matchup in Orlando. Isn't that the perfect place for this game? Nothing says Disney World like two old white guys in goofy polo shirts screaming at their kids. It's really the happiest place on earth.
Louisville (and Petrino) seem like they're smart enough to accept their fate. It reminds me a bit of Tech's game against the Tide in 2013, where everyone knew the Hokies weren't talented enough to keep it close, and weren't mad when it wasn't. I'll take the under here (but Bama still covers the -24.5.)
Joey: Bobby Petrino right now is a 12-year-old kid who hasn't brushed his teeth in two weeks on his way to the dentist's office. He's sweating profusely, fidgeting uncomfortably, and on the verge of tears for the pain he knows is coming. His only hope is that the kind dentist takes pity on his soul.
Louisville's best case scenario for Saturday night is to make it out alive. If things go well and Uncle Nick is feeling extra generous, they may even get to keep a sliver of dignity. I'll take the over.
Which total is greater: number of old white men mad about Michigan, or number of old white men mad about Notre Dame.
Brian: The Wolverines are a one point dog in South Bend against the Irish. So the renewal of their rivalry coupled with the general angst of both fanbases means that a bunch of old white dudes are going to have hot takes about their football team come Sunday morning. Personally, I think the Jim Harbaugh backlash is only happening because we're all tired of hating on Brian Kelly, who has a much stronger track record of under performing.
I'm going to pick Notre Dame fans to come away angry, for one reason: Shea Patterson is the best quarterback Harbaugh's had since Andrew Luck (yes, this includes his time with the 49ers). There's a legitimate chance that this is the season Michigan blows everyone away and finally capitalizes on the talent they have everywhere else. It's a win for Harbaugh, a win for Wolverine fans, and a win for anyone sick of watching Wilton Speight and Jake Rudock (the winners of three straight Matt Flynn Awards for the most boring quarterbacks on talented teams).
Joey:
/Fires up the hot take machine.
//Breathes deeply.
Jim Harbaugh stinks. He freaking stinks. Setting aside his clear recruiting prowess (and borderline creepy social tendencies), the on-field product in Ann Arbor has been consistently underwhelming since the milk-man's return in 2015. In that span, Michigan has never finished above third (third!) in the Big Ten East, and Harbaugh boasts a UVA-esque 1-5 record against his top two rivals (Ohio State and Michigan State).
To be fair, Harbaugh's troubles most certainly track back to a laughable ineptitude in the quarterback room. My personal favorite was none other than John O'Korn, but if nothing else, Harbaugh's cornered the market on unathletic quarterbacks who spent their entire childhoods dreaming about the chance to repeatedly run full-back dives in-front of a silent Big House.
All of this is to say that Shea Patterson worries me. Put simply, he messes with the universal equilibrium that we've come to know and love in Ann Arbor. Whether it's Ohio State Twitter digging up problematic childhood tweets (ah, the irony) or the fine governing body of the NCAA identifying the most asinine of violations, something needs to be done to get Brandon Peters/Wilton Speight/a random PIKE bro back under center.
Give me mad Michigan men and the over.
*Potentially boring game spread alert! Miami (-3) vs LSU*
Brian: Malik Rosier! Joe Burrow! It's the Matt Flynn Award watch list on ABC!!
(That, my friends, is what we call a callback joke.)
How in the world did Mark Richt make the Hurricanes both good and incredibly boring? It's the worst possible outcome for the rest of us. Because if we have to sit through a season where Miami is consistently in the top-10, don't we all deserve a team that wears fatigues on the team plane, or one that laterals fumble returns and then toys with their chasing opponents? Somehow Pastor Mark has stolen that joy from us, and just made the men in Coral Gables a solid squad with a corny ass chain.
I'll still pick them to win, because they're good. And LSU might not be. Especially because Ed Orgeron is like that teacher you had in high school who used to be a long-term substitute, but then had to take over the full time job. They knew how to have fun, but when it came time for full blown lesson plans, things just got too complicated. Miami wins, Miami covers the three.
Joey: This is a classic heart vs. head game. I love Coach O:
COACH O IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME #GeauxTigers pic.twitter.com/XjtbrhzBycโ Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) November 19, 2017
I mean, what's not to love? He's everything that's right about college football, an authentic, passionate southerner who was quite literally born to coach at LSU. That said, I question the wisdom of running Matt Canada out of town, and longevity has never been the hallmark of Interim Ed's illustrious SEC coaching career.
Forced to pick between two impossibilities (Mark Richt and Ed Orgeron winning a big game), I'll take my guy getting spotted a field goal in what will presumably be a pro-gumbo crowd. Geaux Tigers.
The Joey Coogan Memorial "Navy Hits the Over" Lock of the Week.
Brian: I want to be clear: this does not mean that Navy hitting the over is a lockโat least to anyone other than my partner (I'll let him explain). This is just a category for a line that we each feel irrationally strong about. While I'm sure Joey has a pick (it's kind of in the title of the category), I'll have to stray from the well.
I understand that Auburn returns their quarterback and are coming off a top-10 season, but them being two point favorites over Washington in Atlanta this week seems crazy to me. The Huskies are crazy talented, have a deep defense (who can disrupt Jarrett Stidham like Clemson did last year), and someone still has Jake Browning under center. No one east of the Rockies cares, but Washington is good, and them being underdogs feels like a nice line. Take Chris Peterson and the boys +2.
(A few other games to watch: Army +13.5 at Duke, Northwestern +2.5 at Purdue, Arizona -11.5 vs BYU.)
Joey: OK, so I guess this one may need some context.
I've bet Navy overs every week dating back to 2015, regardless of opponent, line, or weather. The premise is simple: Navy's offense is the tits, and their defense resembles that of a drunk freshman in Pritchard repeatedly running "Engage Eight" against five-wide in Madden while screaming nonsensically at his secondary to "cover a f****ng receiver." In other words, the 2012 version of me.
Not that it matters, but in the spirit of research, Navy opens the season against 1-0 Hawai'i (nailed that +17 degenerate special, BTW). Hawai'i looked surprisingly good against Colorado State, racking up 617 yards en route to a convincing win over the Rams. Their defense, though...let's just say their defense looked like Hawai'i.
The line's at 62.5 (which, again, doesn't matter), so that'll be a Navy over with ten-plus minutes to spare.
Brian: (Told you it didn't make any sense.)
Virginia Tech-Florida State Over/Under: 57
Brian: This won't be a fun game to watch in many respects. Both teams will be rusty and not fully operational, which'll keep the scoring down for at least the first half. Unless something changes dramatically, the Hokies will need to string together a series of long drives to score enough to win. The Seminoles may not look great, but they can pop a few big ones for quick points. I'll pick the under, because it seems like neither offense is ready to put up big numbers in week one.
Joey: I fully expect Florida State to come out sloppy. Much like the Battle of Bristol, a newly introduced high-tempo offense promises to bring some timing and alignment issues that may help a young Hokies defense settle in. Tech should be improved on offense over the long haul, but a 60-minute snapshot against a highly talented FSU defense may not be a great predictor of overall 2018 success. I'll take the under in a low-to-mid 50's nailbiter.
Spread: Florida State (-7.5)
Brian: I've gone back and forth on this for the last two months. I'll start to feel good about Josh Jackson's improvement in his second year, and then I'll remember Florida State's five-stars. I'll begin to get warm and fuzzy over the young talent on defense, and then I'll have nightmares of Cam Akers. There's a small part of me that still believes the Hokies will win the turnover battle, control the time of possession, and eek out a close victory on the road.
But the rest of me says that Taggart's new offense is ready to ball out, and the adrenaline from the opening night crowd propels them to an emotional performance (that very well may rise above their overall results the rest of the way.) There's too much youth and inexperience on Tech's defense, and too many five-stars on the other side. I'll pick FSU, 31-17.
Joey: 7.5 feels high. Don't get me wrong, I think Florida State wins, but you have to love the value in the Virginia Tech pick here.
The key to the game has to be how the Hokies compete on the defensive line. If they manage to draw even (or win) up front, the back 7 is good enough to make this thing interesting. If not? Well, the 'Noles go full 2014 Miami and take the life out of Tech 12-yard run by 12-yard run.
Take the Hokies and the points and pray Charley Wiles delivers yet again.
Disclaimer: Some of these are real betting lines, but many of them are fake and none of this is real advice that should be taken seriously.

Comments
It should be "Commemorative", not "Memorial"...for a sec I was like: did Joey die?
His bets die every week though.
This is why we're keeping score.
Good god the content is flowing like wine.
FTFY
No, most people enjoy it when the wine is flowing.
I posted this on twitter but I'll repost it here for the fellow degen's:
VT-FSU is shaping up to be a potential Pro's vs. Joe's match-up in Vegas with the sharp money being on one side and the square money being on the other. And many on this board may be surprised by which side the sharps are on. One of the key "sharp money indicators" is when there is a major discrepancy between the total # of bets on a team and the total amount of dollars wagered on a team.
As you can see in the image below, there is about a 50/50 split in the betting tickets, however the Hokies are getting twice as many dollars wagered as the Noles. That means the average bet size on VT is twice as large (approx.) as the average ticket backing FSU.
The numbers from a week ago, when the line-movement first happened, are very telling and even more disparate. The guys who were watching this line all summer, waiting patiently for it to break the key number of 7, steamed the Hokies at +7.5 when the line movement occurred.
That high of a discrepancy couldn't possibly hold until game time, as less-polished bettors (who always take favorites, home-teams, and *especially* home-favorites) starting placing their action on FSU since they just started paying attention to football again.
Having said that, remember, this has nothing to do with who sharps think will win the game. But it does provide insight into how close the game is expected to be by a certain set of bettors that you usually want to be on the same side as.
Thanks for posting this! I was getting ready to ask if anyone had a breakdown on the Vegas numbers for the game, and like magic, it was already here.
You're welcome! I will probably continue to do this throughout the season, and may even post some interesting trends/data/line movements (I stuff binders full of stuff as I prep for each season).
Mostly will depend on the interest level there is, as it takes time to put it all into post form
I, for one, have LOTS of interest. With the sports betting rules being relaxed, I'm looking to get into it, but have no idea where to start.
Great, that's what I was thinking about also. With the change in the betting landscape and more & more fans interested in becoming casual bettors. You guys sold me then.
Me as well!
Delaware now has NCAA football betting...so...pipe up!
Where do you get this information - number of bets vs $$ bet?
Trying to figure the ND -1, at home. Means a neutral site would be Missagain -2.5 or so...
The line opened at Michigan -2 so a neutral field would've opened even higher than that.
But Notre Dame fans are known for hammering their own games so hard that it distorts the line. There was a story 5-6 years ago about a single ND fan who moved the line an entire point by himself. Part of the line move had to do with the Tariq Black injury for Michigan but it had been moving towards ND before that.
Stay away from gambling involving any team you're emotionally invested in.
I don't believe this to be true, that bowl game last year was painful to watch but very good to my wallet.
I tend to agree (unless you're someone who is just starting out). I used to follow this rule 100%. For years I would never touch a Tech line no matter what I thought (probably wise because I was younger and new to picking games).
About 2-3 years ago I realized that I have to take the games where I have an edge, regardless of who it is. If I have a perceived edge in a VT game that leads me to believe it's a +EV (expected value) situation then it's a play. But sports betting is all about discipline, so if you don't trust yourself or are just starting out then it's not a bad rule to follow.
Oh yeah I didn't really start betting or paying attention to lines till about 2 years ago. Now betting based off of emotion is a terrible idea. I still don't bet often but my win percentage is pretty good. I tend to tell my friends what I think about Tech games more often then not, I lose those frequently but if I'm putting money out they'll generally follow it.
About 3 years ago is when I started taking it really seriously myself, keeping records on every pick, etc so I could know exactly how good I was and which conferences/types of bets etc I was better in. Get the Sports Action app if you don't have it already. You can log all of your picks each week and check your phone while the games are in progress to see if you're currently winning/losing each of your bets. It's pretty sweet. Also can check at the end of the season and see how you did.
I mean it more in terms of never having to hope against the Hokies. For example, let's say you believe VT is going to get waxed by a team, so you bet against VT. But then in the game, VT is playing great and looking they might win or cover the spread. Knowing that you'll take a hit if VT covers or wins outright, do you start pulling for your wallet or pulling for VT?
There's an order of operations for this. Team before money. I'm also not making making or breaking my life on these bets.
Fair enough :)
I'm still trying to internally debate my over/under on how many beers I should consume relative to a normal Saturday away game with having work the next day.
All the beers. All. of. them.
Like my old gaffer used to say, there ain't no such thing as too much Busch.
Is that how your old gaffer spelled it?
There should be absolutely no change in beer consumption. Your work needs to understand it isn't our fault the game was scheduled on a Monday, if they have an issue with it they can call Virginia Tech, the NCAA, or the President of the United States.
You'll need the over if we're losing. And you'll want the over if we're winning. Conclusion: over.
All very astute points. Regardless of the outcome, I'm going to show up to work Tuesday like
That 5 am alarm on the 4th is going to hurt so bad...
The one good thing about living on the west coast.
Though the tradeoff of having an alarm at all on certain Saturdays is annoying (and forget about watching Gameday).
Saturday mornings in Sep/Oct/Nov are for this anyway. Get up and watch gameday properly.

I wake up between 7 and 8 on weekdays. No way in hell am I gonna get up before 6 on a Saturday.
It would be an impressive show of priorities though...
Man sleeping in would be nice.
The only good thing is I won't have to suffer hearing the chop on TV.. the only bad thing is hearing the damn thing in my ears next to me in the stadium.
I can't hate possibly hate the chop any more. The only time I liked it was during the ACC Championship in Charlotte in 2010 where at the end of the game all the Hokie fans started chanting "goooooo oh hooooome, goooo oh home" (that's harder to phonetically write than I expected) . Please please please let me do some version of that on Monday in Doak. Maybe "ohhhhh oh noooo" ?
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It was awesome in Lane in 2007 too. Completely ridiculed them with the chant the whole 4th quarter. Glorious.
Shout out to Engage Eight.

Player control the boundary side CB and send him too on this defense, alternative play call Punt Block.
Speaking of Punt Block... if you're losing against the CPU and they're about to kneel out the clock, they'll audible out of QB Kneel 90% of the time if you call Punt Block.
At least that's how it was in older games.
No need to retain this fun fact. I don't lose to the CPU in NCAA.
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You should try playing the way I just recently started dynasty. 1 minute quarters on heisman difficulty and you're only allowed to play defense and special teams.
You get the ball on offense? Get your punter out.
Make it to overtime? You have to kick a field goal first play.
Get an interception? You try as hard as you can to get your ass in the endzone.
Other team scores on the opening drive? You debate if you should give in and quit and try again.
Makes for some more exciting and sometimes frustrating games. Also makes recruiting easy because you don't care how your offense looks and you need a kicker that will kick the ball over them there mountains.
As a Braves fan, I am always conflicted and confused when I hear FSU's tomahawk chop. But it sounds the best after a late inning home run.
I will take the under on the chop, if only because you can't count it as separate times when it happens the entire time.
Spread: ESPN plays that trash song to hype the game up Saturday and Sunday. Over Under- 18
Pound the over, that shit is going to play at the end of every commercial break across 4 channels all day on Saturday.
Nah. That's an easy one. I'll take the dreadlock-mullet combo with a side of "shave a player's name into the side, bro!"...
Devon Hunter Superfan. By a mile.
Really like the under and FSU - 7.5 here, especially with it now looking like Hill and Mihota are likely to be out (or Mihota only at 10-15 snaps).
Hill is on the depth chart
So how has that Navy over been for you every week? You keeping a running count
It's hit every (~55%) of the time since 2015.
So, you're essentially breaking even, good to know.
Yes. Last year had a hot streak but finished sub-500.
2015 and 2016 were great.
Starting out strong this year. Hit the over with >15 minutes to spare.
Whoa whoa whoa. We're going to gloss over that Shea Patterson is supposedly better than a three time Pro Bowl QB? The hyperbole went too far on this one.
Yeah it's definitely Alex Smith. Then Kaep who people forget was sensational when he took SF to a super bowl
Agreed. Kaepernick was an above average NFL QB in his final season with the 49ers as well so I wouldn't rank a college QB with 10 career games, who was above average but not transcendent, over him.
Related to this, how many people on here bet on CFB? What sites do most people use and have you made money?
I do some bitcoin mining so that's my slush fund. I bet on nitrogen sports which is a BTC sports betting site. Last year was nice for a little because I allocate $20 for the year and then with the price increase of bitcoin and winning a good bit the first few weeks, I had over $300 in my account. Which I promptly lost over the next few weeks...
Any of yall play Draftkings or Fanduel? They just added back College football. Might lose all my money on Monday night though