Both of ESPN's bowl prognosticators have us playing UCF in the Russell Athletic Bowl. College Football News has us playing Rutgers (Nooooooooooo) again in the Russell Athletic Bowl. I'm curious whate everybody else thinks about our possible postseason destination and opponent.
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Sugar Bowl against Alabama. I don't think it's likely and have no clue how possible it actually is, but I'm rooting for it.
I was just telling my dad this evening that I really wish we had another shot at them.
Reminds of back in 09 everybody wanted to see a rematch around this time of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised to go to Atlanta again
Against Georgia/Florida/Missouri in Atlanta. Plus, if we go to the Russell Athletic Bowl they probably won't put us against Rutgers again.
Would love to see any of those match ups, or South Carolina.
Has anyone taken out all 4 directional Carolina's in a season? I wouldn't mind being the first.
Excellent point
I'm a student at UCF and would like to see that matchup but a think the Hokies are on their way to a BCS bowl this year.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We basically need a W over Miami to have any chance at the ACCCG. Win that and we get one, or a loss to Clemson/FSU maybe? I don't see making a BCS if we don't first make Charlotte.
Yeah BCS is gonna be tough in this years ACC.
its pretty cool that thats actually the case.
Yeah, it will be tough but there are times where we look unstoppable even without a running game. I dont think it's all that difficult to believe that we can beat Miami. It's the ACC championship that will most likely be the toughest.
I don't think beating da U is unreasonable either. I think we all have vetted our distaste for the rankings, but go look at CU, FSU, and UM remaining schedule. I don't see any getting through that without a loss (and they all basically face off against each other or $EC). The ACC is super fun to watch this year which is a testament to the leagues growing strength, but seeing multiple teams reaching a BCS seems unlikely to play out.
I think our Front-7 knocks S. Morris out of the game as VT exacts its revenge.
To both of your points, Our D (heh) is as good, if not better than Florida's, and they gifted the game to Miami via a ton of turnovers. I'm quietly confident about taking on Miami, but Duke and BC actually have me worried
How awesome to be able to FINALLY beat Tajh and Sammy!! That's the only reason I'm rooting for Clemson over FSU... If we continue to play like we are, Miami should not be an issue. IF...
I think Miami is going to be an issue no matter what. They aren't just going to lay down when we walk in the building.
The rest of our schedule is loaded with landmines. BC plays to their opponents. Dook isn't the Dook of old. UVA has a little brother complex. Miami is GOOD and can throw down points in bunches, and their defense has a pulse. Maryland isn't a pushover and they have athletes.
No easy buckets.
And as long as the team realizes that I am just fine with it. VT seems to have a knack for playing up or down to the perceived competition. If we come in every game expecting a fight, I love our chances to come out with W's
sb nation has us playing the dawgs in the atl. i'd take a rematch.
Big time revenge game.
Another bowl game where we beat ourselves...when i mean we i really mean Sean Glennon and his three pickles
Was at that game and my brother was on the team as well and I put that one squarely on the shoulders of Stinespring and Frank. B Ore was killing the dogs in the first half, 21-3 at half if I remember, and we quit giving it to him in the second half. My god that fight song their band plays was sooooooo damn annoying!
Lets not forget the on-side kick. Beamer having the 'who-farted' face. Was at that game. Had them on the ropes and then the flood gates opened up in the second half . Ugh.
Also at the game. It was a fucking disaster to say the least. I want UGA like I want air...
Revenge is a dish best served after it festers, rots, and seethes for seven years. And I want it.
Guys...I think that loss was my family's fault. We watched the first half at a friend's house. Left at halftime. Should have stayed at their house for the whole game. On behalf of Hokies everywhere, I am truly sorry
Honestly I would rather play a big time SEC team in the CFA Bowl then a lousy mid major in the Orange Bowl. A win over a SEC team would be much bigger than a win over an undefeated or one loss mid major, just saying.
The Orange bowl gets the first At-Large pick this year. If there is going to be a year to go to the Orange Bowl, this year is the one.
The "lousy mid-major" is probably going to be Louisville. There's a short list of teams I'd rather play against than a team with the Teddy Bear as its QB.
Oh and I wouldn't mind playing Cincinnati in the Russell Athletic Bowl either. We owe them. Big time.
Honestly, if it's not an SEC team or a PAC12 team that were playing against this year (I'd like to see us against UW or UCLA) ...then I'll be pretty disappointed.
Reaching here...
But Clemson has F$U and USC left.
F$U has Clemson, Miami and Flo-rida left.
Both could have 2 losses.........and if we win out, could be in the BCS very cleanly.
I'm just enjoying the fact that this poster's user tag is "vtpoop"
Much obliged
All I remember is that the Russell Athletic Bowl sucked. If it ceased to be a bowl game, I wouldn't be offended.
For a second rate bowl, they gave band members some pretty nice stuff.
Yes, I rate bowls that way sometimes.
Aw man the stuff we would get for the Orange bowl was always awesome. Mostly because we would actually get several things
Sugar bowl was obviously the best. But Orange bowl was good too. And the chik-fil-a bowl gave us chicken sandwiches after the game which equals perfection.
I still wear the hoodie and gym shorts I got in 2007-08 season. That year it was 50 degrees all week in Miami, and we we had all packed shorts/t-shirts. The per diem was pretty good, too.
That was the worst trip ever. Packed only warm weather clothes. The only bowl game I ever went to. Drove it too.
I didn't travel to the game - but I was pretty impressed with the bowl.
Granted, the name sucks (it used to be the Tangerine?/Citrus? bowl I think)- but I think they did a really good job promoting the game and the production was pretty good overall. I still follow their twitter feed, they were often hilarious. That being said - playing Rutgers and the Big East does not excite me. Or anyone.
However, I think after this year RAB gets the first pick after the playoff and the Orange Bowl - so we might be seeing more of it. The tie-in will be the Big 12 though - no more Big East/AAC.
These things are NEVER correct even with a week left in the season.
Alot of 'any given' Saturdays left to play.
VT is currently eligible for its TWENTY FIRST straight bowl game.
(whichever one it may be)
'nuf said.
Assuming things go as they should for the rest of the year (FSU/Clem/Miami winning out except against each other).
ACC gets 2 BCS (probably both from the Atlantic division)
VT gets picked for CFA before Miami (travelling fans make us a better financial selection, plus at this point we know Atlanta like the back of our collective hand)
OR Miami goes to CFA and we get whatever is next.
That's pretty similar to the situation in 2009, w here we went to Atlanta for Alabama (L), GT (L), and Tennessee (W.) CFA really is a decent bowl to go to outside of the BCS.
Yea, and it'd be pretty sweet to win the last ever before it becomes one of the BIG-SIX (or whatever they're going to call the Bowls that are involved in the playoffs).
This is the most likely scenario. However, I think the loser of the Clemson/FSU game would have to beat their in-state SEC rival. If Clemson or FSU have 2 losses at the end of the year, they'll be a bubble at-large selection.
Here's the best case scenario for us and the ACC for that matter from here on out with us being the main priority. Clemson beats FSU this weekend and wins out, beating USCe. Miami enters our game undefeated after beating FSU. This would mean that on November 9th, Clemson would be ranked around 3rd and Miami probably between 5 and 7 with us sitting somewhere around 15-17 I would imagine (Duke and BC will only bump us up so much unless teams above us suffer big upsets). We beat Miami, bump up 5 spots or so and win out. Then we are looking at possibly a top 10 ACC championship game with us versus Clemson, possibly with Clemson sitting at #2 or even #1 should Bama lose along the way to LSU or someone else. We have our revenge on Clemson and seal our path to a BCS bowl. Clemson would most likely then go to a BCS bowl as well. It's even more likely that the ACC gets 2 BCS bowls if Fresno State and Northern Illinois lose along the way so there are no BCS busters. I would love for all of this to happen, but we still have just under half the season to go. There's still plenty of time for things to get interesting.
Was just telling some one the other day that the ideal situation for me is us in ACCCG with 1 loss, Clemson undefeated, Miami with 1 loss(to VT) and FSU with 2, exactly as you had it
I'd imagine that after we beat FSU in the ACC Championship game, we'll be on our way to Pasadena for a rematch with Alabama
I highly doubt that. They'd entertain the idea as talking points but they would definitely shy away from a rematch title game, even if it's two SEC schools again.
Fine, we'll just say that LSU beats Bama then and we play them instead
I know this is a 'what if' thing but man I get nervous starting to predict where we will be at the end of the season. There are still a lot of games left and if the team starts looking ahead we could be set up for failure. Just wanted to throw that out so I can feel like my karma is back in balance.
I think we do this every year at some stage. Sometimes it's before the season, sometimes during. We start looking ahead, feeling we're due to catch a break or make a run at something great. I hope for it too, to some extent, but I'm holding myself back this year. Too many unknowns. The only thing I know for sure is I love the way this team is playing together and I love their attitude.
The only thing I'm hoping for right now? 7-1 after Duke. Let's talk again on 10/27.
I agree with that shit. We've got two trap games back-to-back and one of those games (@ BC) looks a lot more difficult than before. I lived in Boston for a couple of years, BC fans respect Virginia Tech but they want to kick our ass everytime we play them because VT beat them in the ACCCG in '07.
Yeah but that ACCCG was pay back for the Matty Ice defeat earlier that season. I will never forget that game.
Easily top 3 worst nights of my life. Now I live in Atlanta and am forced to hear about him all the time, I just can't get away
Yeah it was a great game until the last two minutes. I've never be so wet in my life...
Had to.
Yep. True story. I walked right into that. LOL
Being a freshmen in the Corps, it was easily the quietest, most awkward walks back to the dorms. That was the one game my training company was in the front row and the touchdown was right in front of us. Definitely will never be able to forget that game.
Do they not want payback for the time we beat them in the ACCCG in '08?
The best thing perception-wise for our program would be to play a 1-loss Texas A&M in a BCS bowl and beat Johnny Football 17-7.
That being said, I'm not looking past Duke and that glorious 3:30 kickoff.
This Hokie team has the chance to be special. That said Duke and BC are both trap games, with neither being a pushover. VT has to show up for every game ... If we do I can see us bearing Miami and moving on. If we get the the ACCCG and win I think VT has to be in the conversation at that point. If we drop any games along the way we will be dishing out a savage beating to whatever 6 win creampuff they throw at us in some tee shirt bowl. This is revenge season lets win out and break clemsuck of fsu's hearts
With out a doubt nobody that has any connections or money in the bowls will want to see or host another rematch of the Rutgers. I believe Virginia Tech's defense has bowls fighting for us. I can definitely see an A&M vs. VT bowl or even Georgia vs VT. Don't be surprised to see Miami get left out of a top tier bowl because VT travels better and has a better reputation. Its all about the #Cashflow!
Don't get me wrong, I really, really, really, want to beat Miami, but I would enjoy it if they finished ahead of us, but we got selected before them for a bowl.
I don't think that would happen this year, look at how bad ESPN wants Miami to be relevant. Top #10 team, seriously?
Ha. I'm in Engineering Econ right now, lol'd at #cashflow
My prediction is we play the Gators in Chikfila Bowl
That would be cool with me. I love the Peach Bowl. Football game in Atlanta on New's Year's Eve right before the real party starts...awesome.
That game score would be 6 to 3, VT over the Gators
I think you're giving the offenses way too much credit with that prediction. 3-2 VT wins it
With those offenses, and those defenses? Would definitely be 4-2 #allofthesafeties
Most fans would love a 0-0 tie headed into overtime.
Please don't let it be the Russell Athletic Bowl
If we beat DA U then we can bank an ACC title game appearance, which could put us in a discussion for the Peach Bowl depending on how we play, although I think if FSU or Clemson has one loss they are going to want them there. I think they might be concerned that VT has played in the Georgia Dome already this year and has been there a lot in years past.
I for one would love to see a Sugar Bowl at large bid in the BCS, Nawlins > Atlanta. As far as opponent, anyone in the SEC, maybe the Fighting Teddy Bridgewaters, maybe smack around some over rated Big 12 school, or get a shot at tOSU.
we have a shot at OSU early next season - either way.
True. but I'd like to take them on in a neutral site with this D and LT rather than in the Horseshoe next year without them
I don't want to be pessimistic, but I don't think we can bank on an ACCCG appearance until we win out the rest of the ACC. There are still several games left, against opponents that we can lose to if overlooked. Regardless of how we feel about the team being dominant on D, or O doing just enough to win games, we should avoid getting ahead of ourselves with hope for the team.
I'm not saying that I don't think this team can win out and even win the ACCCG against either FSU or Clemson. I'm just saying that even if we beat Duke, and BC, and then beat Miami, we will still have 2 teams that would be gunning for us. They don't need to show they are competent the rest of the time. They just need to be competent enough when they play us.
Just win out..beating a top 5 Miami team and top 5 Clemson team in the ACCCG (as long as UM/UC both beat FSU) would put us into the top 3. We would just need a few others ahead of us to lose as well. It could happen..keep winning and it will #beatbama #LOLUVA
So a few points:
A) The ESPN bowl projections (at least on the ACC Blog) come from where we are ranked. It's that simple. So whoever made those is assuming since Clemson is the highest ranked team in the ACC, they would win the conference and thus go on to represent us in the Orange Bowl. FSU is ranked #5 and if they were to somehow still be there at the end of the season, it wouldn't be hard to picture them getting into a BCS bowl thus they are picked to be in the Sugar Bowl. Now, unless the second best ACC team gets a BCS bid usually they go to the Chik-fil-A bowl, but since FSU is taken, Miami takes their place because they are, by rankings, third best in the ACC. We fall in at fourth which, based on picking order by bowls, gives us to the Russell Athletic Bowl. That's how they do it. It doesn't mean anything other than if the season ended today, that's where we would be. So don't take it too personally.
B) I know we all love the Hokies and we want nothing more than to fill our trophy case. But let's not be complete homers here. We will not play for a national title this year. Best case scenario, we win the ACC (which BTW would be quite an upset in the first place), we finish with a 12-1 record with a loss to Alabama. You're assuming an awful lot for us to get up to #1 or #2, I mean think about it:
1) There couldn't be two or more undefeated teams, meaning out of Oregon, Ohio State, Louisville, Baylor all would have to lose and nobody from the SEC (Bama & LSU) could come out undefeated either.
2) Now, think about all those teams I just named. Do you really think we get in over one of them with one-loss? I don't think that happens it's just not a realistic thought. Now, what about all the other teams out there that already have one-loss, they'd have to lose AGAIN!
My point is, while I think this team is capable of beating anyone and can win the ACC (it would surprise me to say the least if they did, but I don't think it's impossible) it's just simply not realistic to think that we will be in natinoal title contention at the end of the year. And frankly, to talk about it right now is just crazy.
With this team, be happy with just enjoying the wins week to week. If I took anything away from last year, it's that I'm not taking any win for granted and I'm enjoying it as much as I can. I know this site is meant for theoretical discussions and all that, but I think we've gone a bit far if we're talking about a national championship game.
With all that said, it's college football and anything can happen. I always root for chaos and this season will be no different.
With the proven $EC bias ahead of us currently in the rankings, we would need 173 different things happen in order for us to get to #1 or #2. I do, however, think we could get to top 8 or so by winning out. If whomever we face in the ACCCG is undefeated, it adds a lot to our credibility. Along with if Bama stays #1.
Now, best case is to win out and get the ACC bid for the BCS. Second best case, win out, lose the ACCCG to an undefeated #2 team in either Clemson or F$U and still get an at large. Would need some $EC schools to stumble, but Clemson could pick off USC for one, and they could eat themselves in the remaining conference schedule.
If we are going to get to the National Championship game, Bama would have to lose and not be #1 or #2. For the record I'm going to be that guy and just worry about Duke for now.
I agree that we just need to worry about Duke, but why would Bama have to lose? It's not like they haven't had a rematch in the National Championship game before.
I just don't see the pollsters putting in another rematch that isn't SEC if they have the option to avoid it. If we are a one loss and someone else like Oregon is there with a loss to Stanford, I think they go Oregon. Anything could happen, but we have A LOT of work in front of us before this is an issue.
I guess I just look at it as "what have you done for me lately" and I would say that losing at the beginning of the season and knocking off 2 top teams in the last 4 weeks of the season versus losing a game in the last 4 weeks. As you said, there's a lot still ahead of us. One game at a time.
It's an interesting debate, but I think in the eyes of the media we will get knocked down because we are in the ACC. They will try to get 1) SEC, 2) PAC-12/OSU in ahead of us.
We could also end up in a similar situation to 2007, where LSU leap-frogged us from 4 to 2 for the national title because they beat us so handily early in the year. If Bama remains in the top 3, that is our glass ceiling.
It would be tougher if only one spot were open...
But if Bama loses twice, it opens the door up. A one loss Bama is prob still ahead of us, unless its to one of the 3 FCS teams they typically schedule in November.
There is a lot of football left...and I'm not even close to holding out hope for getting to the NC. Just trying to get to Miami with one loss, and whipping their butt!!!!
Of the teams in the top 10 right now, someone has to lose between Bama and LSU, Clemson/FSU, Miami/FSU, UCLA/Oregon, and A&M/LSU. A lot can happen.
Honestly, why not? Assuming we're 12-1, that means we've possibly beaten at least a top 10 if not top 5 Miami as well as a top 3 Clemson. Let's play a quick game of if's. If Clemson wins out, beats FSU and USCe, they would have beaten a top 10 UGA, a top 5 FSU, and possibly a top 10 USCe (that's a pretty damn good argument for being in the National Championship). That also assumes that Miami's only loss is to us and FSU's only losses are to Clemson and Miami. Our only loss would be to the #1 team at the beginning of the year and we would probably be one of the hottest teams at the end of the year. There is A LOT that would have to happen for all of those things to occur, but IF they did, I do believe that if any of those teams had a loss, no matter who their opponent was, we would be above them. Of those teams though, Baylor will not go undefeated. Louisville has the best chance at being undefeated. Stanford could trip up Oregon again and Ohio State has just done enough to get by. They could slip as well. Just remember, there are 8 weeks of football left. There's plenty of time and crazier things have happened.
The why not: Because only Hokies want to see a VT-Bama rematch. Nobody else does. The pollsters would do their best to ensure anybody else (especially a 1-loss PAC-12 team) makes it over a 1-loss VT team.
Doesn't have to be a VT-Bama rematch. Could be anybody else at the top. Bama could very well lose to LSU or whoever wins the SEC East.
I think it's a catch-22 then. If Bama loses, our loss to them loses its credibility, so it's harder for us to ascend. If Bama stays unbeaten, then the rematch becomes unlikely for reasons stated above.
Does it though? If Bama dropped every game from here on out, I would agree. But if Bama loses to LSU, I don't think that takes anything from our loss. We still lost to the reigning national champions who were ranked #1 for over half the season. Unfortunately, pollsters and computers don't look at anything beyond numbers and stats though so credibility goes out the window with that one.
That last part is the real issue. Bama goes down in the rankings with a loss, at least a few spots, then our strength of schedule goes down somewhat, and since we would need to thread the needle perfectly for everything to happen, it's just enough to knock us out of the picture in this hypothetical scenario.
First, I don't think we'll leapfrog some of those teams with one loss. Depends on who the loss is to, though. If Alabama loses one game this year, we won't jump them, since our loss is to them, but if they lost to Southeastern Polytechnic School of Mines or something, it could still be possible.
I don't see a 1-loss SEC team who did not win their division or conference playing for the national championship again. Alabama did it one year when everyone had one loss (a year in which OkSt probably should have been in the MNC against LSU), but everything is dependent on when you lose and who you lose to.
I agree that I don't think we'll play for the MNC this year, but it doesn't take a homer to see imagine how it is still possible. If we take it one week at a time, win out, and chaos ensues all over the country, anything is possible.
I'm starting to think my prediction of mnc in 2015 or 2016 is becoming more possible.
Still a lot of football this year, things will be interesting.
You all have great points. But this whole conversation kind of prooves my point, there are just so many "what ifs" and "maybes" that it's just not realistic.
Our team doesn't win with style points, and while that shouldn't matter it really does. A one-loss team that scores 50 points a game but also gives up just as much (Oregon, Baylor) looks much better than we do. Even a team that has a solid defense but can still put up 28 points routinely looks better than us. Winning games 19-7 just doesn't look pretty. It's not fair but it's how it goes sometimes.
I don't think we see two SEC teams in the national title game this year, there are just no teams that dominant, but at least one SEC teams gets in so that leaves one spot left for all the other conferences to battle it out for.
Personally, I don't see Ohio State losing to anyone, they are just that much better than anyone else in the B1G. And even if they do, as long as they win the B1G, we don't get in over them as ACC champs.
Maybe I'm being to pesimistic, but that's not really my point. I'm just trying to say, let's enjoy this ride while it lasts and just appreciate the fact that we can even realistically talk about winning the Coastal. Forget the national title, forget the ACCCG (for now), just enjoy winning and let's get pumped for Duke next week.
Russell Athletic Bowl sounds highly unappealing two straight years. But BCS...I don't know. Our defense is good enough to keep us in any game. Our offense is not
They won't stick a 2 or 3 loss Hokie team to the Russell Bowl..Miami might be us and we still get to play the FSU/Clemson winner. The NCAA hasn't said if Miami can play in the postseason but I don't think the school will place the postseason ban on it's program yet again.