
You know what's not fun? Making jokes after your dumpster fire of a college football team took a fiery dump in the middle of Norfolk in front of a live television audience.
But hey, the terrible gambling must go on, right?
Brian's Record this Year (+Last Week Only) 6-17 (3-5)
Joey's Record this Year (+Last Week Only) 13-10 (2-6)
Over/Under: 1.5 Virginia Tech quarterbacks who see playing time
Brian: At some point, we're going to see Hendon Hooker. Tech's going to want to get the jet sweep game going, and Ryan Willis seems about as capable at it as Josh Jackson (read, if the primary word to describe your speed is "sneaky", you're probably not going to be great at the inverted veer). I think if Justin Fuente had his way, he'd save the Hooker package (a name that will NEVER get old) for Notre Dame.
I don't think he gets the chance. I foresee the run game struggling, Willis taking a bunch of sacks, and the offensive staff grasping for straws. They may need Hooker, whether they want to use him or not.
Joey: Old Dominion stole my soul. It's gone. With all hope and promise wiped away from the Hokies' 2018 campaign, my focus now turns solely to gambling.

We start this week with an easy over. Saturday night's quarterback situation is playing out in one of two very distinct ways:
1) All hell breaks loose, former Kansas legend Ryan Willis struggles against fellow football power Duke, and Hendon Hooker has to come in midway through the second half down by 20.
2) Willis plays reasonably well, Bud Foster teaches his secondary how to cover well enough to not get brutally embarrassed for a second straight week, and Hooker's featured for ~5 snaps of QB-run action to keep Duke honest.
Either way, this is an over.
Over/Under: 250 passing yards for Duke
Brian: Daniel Jones is still out, which means Quentin Harris will start for the third week in a row. He's a hard player to understand. Against Baylor Harris went just 12-30 for 174 yards (not good!), but threw a brilliant 66-yard score as the Blue Devils jumped out to an early 23-0 lead (very good!). Then he went 15-27 (bad!) for three scores (good!) against NC Central.
Odds are, no matter how poorly we remember the Hokie secondary playing, they won't give up 250 yards. On the road. To a team playing their backup quarte-(begins sobbing).
I expect Duke to play efficiently, test the young linebackers and defensive ends with a ton of zone read stuff, and attempt to control the game with Harris and their stable of running backs on the ground. Hit me with the under.
Joey: Excluding its 620+ yard thrashing of North Carolina Central last week (and really, what else would you do against an inferior in-state opponent?), Duke's offense has been held in check for much of the year. They're a typical Grandpa Cutcliffe unit — well-schemed, fundamentally sound, and athletically challenged.*
Against a Virginia Tech defense that has, well, problems, I have no clue what to expect. Could Duke turn in a par-for-the-course 200 yard passing performance, rush for a mundane 150, and lose a tight one? Sure. Could the Blue Devils go full Old Dominion on Tech and hang 50, leaving all of Blacksburg hoping for nothing more than a quick and painless death? Absolutely.
So where's the smart play? Probably somewhere in the middle. My (extremely hesitant, fake internet) money's on Duke hovering just below the 250 passing mark, so I'll go under.
*Full transparency, I haven't seen Duke play this year outside of two-minutes of a 40-27 win at Baylor where my (extremely aggressive, quite real) money was on Baylor -4. Can't win 'em all.
True or False: Damon Hazelton will catch a touchdown pass
Brian: Hazelton's fun. He's exciting with the ball in his hands, has provided huge plays the last two weeks, and has scored in each of his first three contests as a Hokie. I'll get over the fourth down drop in Norfolk, because blaming the loss on him would be like blaming the Hindenburg explosion on a passenger's cigarette. It probably wasn't best thing to happen, but the whole thing was a fiery mess before that.
I'm going to say true here, for two reasons. The first was already mentioned, he has three scores in three games. But how about we check out the play-by-play from last Saturday (if you can stomach it). Of Willis' 18 attempts, a whopping nine of them went to Hazelton.That's a lot of targets, meaning there'll be plenty of chances for him to find the end zone.
Joey: For as much as we'll remember Hazelton's play at Old Dominion by a vomit-inducing, upset-clinching drop, the dude had himself a day. 5 catches, 154 yard and a touchdown aren't quite Randy Moss numbers against a middling ODU secondary, but it's abundantly clear that Hazelton is the Hokies' best wideout.
Given that, I'll take the Ball State transfer to extend his touchdown streak to 4 games.
Over/Under 350 Virginia Tech offensive yards
Brian: The Duke defense gives up 333 yards per game, and even with Willis the Hokies are the best competition the Blue Devils have faced yet. So I'm going to pick the over, but not because of a lack of confidence in Cutcliffe's defense.
I'm picking the over because I think Willis is going to be ready to chuck it. In his first game as a starter, since he made the exodus out of Kansas and lead himself to the promise land (and by promise land, I mean literally anywhere other than the Kansas football facility)? The boy's going to want to show off the cannon, and go deep. His proclivity for using his arm strength is going to pay off somewhat, gain a decent chunk of yardage, and make us think for just a brief moment that the events of last week are behind us (at least until the first interception).
Joey: Recognizing that I haven't plugged in the Duke football game tape recently (ever), I'll take French at his word that this Blue Devils' defense is legit. That's not a comforting notion for Ryan Willis, who would no doubt prefer his starting debut come against a lesser, perhaps in-state foe where the Hokies have historically dominated on the recruiting trail.
Either way, Tech's offensive staff knows they'll need to score early and often to support a suddenly reeling Bud Foster defense. Combine that with a backup quarterback mindset that should approach "what's there to lose?", and we may see an aggressive gameplan Saturday night. Will it be enough to rack up 350+ yards against a testy defense?
Probably not, but life's too short to bet the under. Over it is.
Over/Under Virginia Tech total wins: 6
Brian: I'll admit it now. I was a little too in the moment when I wrote this. Like most of you, I was in a bad spot after watching the purge happening live in Norfolk. But I still think this is a fair (if not negative) assessment.
Tech's defense is going to be up and down. It reminds me of a more talented 2014 squad, when one week they'd dominate (a 34-17 win against UNC), and then immediately turn around and surrender 258 rushing yards to Boston College. There'll be moments when they shine. There'll also be moments when Farley and Watts give up 300 passing yards by themselves.
But until proven otherwise, it seems like Willis is going to throw 10 or more interceptions. And if he does that, the defense doesn't have the juice to go get the ball back. I'm going to be optimistic and say the Hokies get to seven wins. I could be wrong.
Joey: This line triggered me. At first, I was insulted by an O/U win total of 6.
Then I looked at the schedule and thought, 'there goes the bowl streak.'
Then I remembered that ECU stole a victory for an extra week of prep against South Florida before proceeding to lose anyways and finally landed squarely on, 'Screw you, ECU'.
Taking a step back from the hot take machine, I'm in the same boat as Brian. This Tech team isn't perfect*. Ugly losses won't be going away. But ugly wins count as wins just the same, and this offense is talented enough to get the Hokies to 7.
*I'm aware that "Tech isn't perfect" is the understatement of the century. That last paragraph should read "Tech stinks, but thankfully UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech, UVA, and hopefully 1 other school will stink more."
#7 Stanford @ #8 Notre Dame (-5.5)
Brian: Ah yes, what was once considered the Irish's body blow game before their trip to Blacksburg. The theory, at the time, was that the Cardinal may not win in South Bend, but would beat up Notre Dame so much that they wouldn't have the same pop the next week.
Again, this was before ODU crushed everything we hold dear.
The Irish replaced Brandon Wimbush with a dude who can actually throw the ball (Ian Book) and put up 56 points on Wake Forest (the most they've scored since September 2015). The ideal thing to happen would be for Notre Dame to win, and to come into Blacksburg for a possible night game. Regardless of how well Duke goes, fans would be ecstatic for an unbeaten to come to town, and electric atmosphere could be the bolt of energy the young Hokies need.
Which means Stanford will win straight up.
Joey: This line makes no sense. Yes, I get that Notre Dame is at home, and yes, Ian Book looked serviceable against a mediocre Wake Forest defense, but Stanford catching 5 ½ against the Fighting Irish is way too high regardless of locale.
I don't know that the Cardinal win outright, but after a bit of Pac-12 After Dark magic at Autzen Stadium last weekend, the Stanford moneyline +200 feels like damn good value.
Plus, I'll take David Shaw over Brian Kelly any day of the week. Lock it up.
#4 Ohio State (-4) @ #9 Penn State
Brian: Trace McSorley is the kind of guy that I've underrated his entire career. He's not big, he doesn't have a great arm, he's only mildly athletic, and he has a tendency to force things into coverage. Yet he's also thrown 65 touchdowns since the start of the 2016 season, constantly converts the plays he needs to, and is the best player on a high flying offense. I don't have a single question about Trace McSorley.
I do, however, have a question about the rest of the Nittany Lions.
The scores here don't quite indicate the kind of season they've had.
First there was the 45-38 OT win over Appalachian State at home. The next week, the 51-6 drubbing of Pitt looks like dominance. But how quickly we all forget that it was only 7-6 until the Panthers fumbled at their own 35 with under a minute remaining in the first half. And last week's 63-24 drubbing of Illinois? The Illini actually grabbed a 24-21 lead mid-way through the third quarter, before Penn State ripped off six straight scores.
Slow starts, first half mental errors, all wiped away by a flurry of points at the end. That doesn't fly against (legitimate Heisman candidate) Dwayne Haskins and Ohio State.
Buckeyes -4.
Joey: I'm beginning to get concerned that Brian and I are on the same side of nearly every pick. If that doesn't scream fade everything, you need to stop gambling and see a doctor.
That said, I think Ohio State rolls. Setting aside the Hawaiian demi-god currently doing the devil's work in Tuscaloosa, Dwayne Haskins is a top-tier Heisman candidate that should be taken on Day 1 of the NFL draft next Spring. Pair that with JK Dobbins at tailback and a loaded defense missing just one Bosa brother, and I like the Buckeyes to straight up outclass Penn State. OSU by double digits.
The Joey Coogan Memorial "Navy Hits the Over" Lock of the Week.
Brian: I have no lock. After two weeks of red hot gambling (outside of this column, unfortunately*), I don't have a great feeling about any of these. But do we really feel confident in Kliff Kingsbury and Texas Tech to not lose by a touchdown against West Virginia this weekend? I very rarely take a road favorite, but it seems like a line that's artificially low after one good outing by the Red Raiders against Oklahoma State. This is still the team that gave up nearly 50 to Ole Miss, and seemingly gives up a long touchdown any time I turn them on. I don't trust Kliff. I don't trust his sunglasses. WVU -3.5.
(*You know what? It's not unfortunate. I like money. And although Joey and I could be considered the definition of degeneracy, we've never put any money on this column.)
Joey: I have a confession to make. For a brief span of about 2 hours early Saturday afternoon, I was beginning to doubt my Navy overs. The triple option hasn't been churning out 75 yard touchdowns at quite the same clip, Ken Niumatalolo's defense actually looks decent for once...it was all getting to be super depressing.
Then the Navy over magic hit.
In the blink of an eye, SMU was scoring touchdowns on special teams, Navy staged a mini-comeback, and each offense was just inept enough down the stretch to keep overtime in play. With regulation knotted at 23 a piece and the morning number dropping to 59.5, I needed two touchdowns in OT to pull out the win.
Navy started with the ball and went vintage Navy, methodically marching the ball down the field with a nine-play, three yards and a cloud of dust scoring drive to take a 30-23 lead. (Mind you, they started on the 25. SMU's 25.)
SMU then tied it up in the bottom half to pull within an extra point, BUT 0-3 SONNY DYKES WASN'T KICKING NO DAMN EXTRA POINTS. Nope, with the total at 59 and my brain ready to explode, SMU went for two from some batshit crazy formation, hilariously converted, and then were forced to pause mid-celebration to endure a ten-minute video review likely called in from Trump himself to investigate a potential illegal formation. With the worst beat of all time flashing before my eyes (penalty nullifies the conversion, pushes SMU back and results in a missed extra point with the total stuck at 59), the refs relented and declared the 2-point conversion good.
31-30 final. Over. Never in doubt.
Navy's off again this week so I'll take Purdue -3 at Nebraska as my lock of the week because Scott Frost looks like he's still lost in the Grand Canyon with Marty Smith.
P.S. I also had Navy -6. Gotta spend money to make money.
Virginia Tech-Duke Over/Under: 50
Brian: This line is very confusing to me. On one hand, you have a Hokie defense that just gave up nearly a half mile of yards against, OLD GODDAMN DOMINION. On the other hand you have David Cutcliffe, an offensive wizard who basically had a practice game against North Carolina Central to prepare for Tech's then-vaunted unit.
And on your third, mutant hand, you have Ryan Willis taking over at QB, knowing that he'll have to put up 30 points to win. And the scary thing? He'll either do it, or throw 5 interceptions. Which would lead to more Duke points.
The over should be my lock of the week.
Joey:: Seriously, this line makes no sense (YEAH, I KNOW I SAY THAT A LOT AND OFTEN LOSE). Broken Tech defense paired with a nothing to lose Tech offense? Pound the over.
Spread: Duke (-4.5)
Brian: I hate this. I don't feel good about it at all. But at the end of the day, I want to put my trust in Fuente to figure things out. Give me Tech +4.5, and if things go wrong you can find me sobbing in a men's bathroom at the Taylor Swift concert in Houston. (Meaning I won't be watching most of the game. Which to be honest is probably the best thing for my general well being.)
Joey: I absolutely hate this pick and know it's irrational, but I'm taking Tech here. If I've learned anything from a lifetime rooting for this god forsaken football team, it's that they always seem to play their best when a) you least expect it; and b) their backs are against the wall.
Wake up Saturday, have a swig (bottle) of Wild Turkey, and forget all about what happened in the 757 last weekend.
Go Hokies.
Disclaimer: Some of these are real betting lines, but many of them are fake and none of this is real advice that should be taken seriously.

Comments
Never thought I'd say this but I wish we were playing at noon so we could hurry up and move on from ODU. A win on Saturday would feel really good but even if we lose, at least our most recent memory won't be a loss to fucking ODU.
Ugh. This is a week of discovery. So many unknowns.. how will the D respond to last weeks massicre, new QB, how will the coaches redeem themselves... the list goes on.
A young player doesn't mean a bad player, yes, inexperienced at this level, need to put that excuse away.
Laughing crying reading this. When will I wake up from this nightmare timeline!
This H&W has the saddest tone of all time, understandably so.
1. 1.5 QBs: Over. I'm with y'all, this seems like a gimme.
2. 250 yards in the air for Duke: Over
3. Hazelton TD: True
4. 350 VT yards: Under
5. 6 wins for the good guys: Over, I think this is still an eight win team. Give me GT, UNC, Pitt, and UVA easy. That's 6 right there. Then I'm thinking a 50/50 split between Duke, ND, BC, and Miami.
6. Stanford (straight up) vs ND
7. OSU (to cover) vs PSU
6. Navy bet: With Brian, WVU -3.5
7. 50 total points: Over, but I honestly don't think it's as much of a lock as y'all seem to think
8. Hokies vs Duke (to cover): You know how I said I think we go 2-2 in the four games above? Well as much as it would be a knife in the heart to lose two weeks in a row, I gotta go with Duke to cover on this one. I'm not gonna use that tired cliche of "ODU is gonna beat us two weeks in a row", I've seen VT recover from some brutal losses in the past. I think we'll go out and play a good game but the Devils are no slouches. 31-21 Duke.
Jumped the gun and bought Duke tickets before I watched ODU figuratively (maybe literally) have an affair with my mother, so now the over/under for me is on my BAC (0.15) in Durham
Over. And that ladies and gentlemen is the lock of the week.
Over/under for how many times I yell at my tv: 50
Under as the Hokies pull out a 38-0 win bc they just want to play with our hearts like that
"Old Dominion stole my soul. It's gone." What are the odds that a few souls are returned this Saturday? Let's hope for the best.
"Before ODU our fun-level was at an all time high, 93. But look now, 2."
Here's hoping the ship gets righted this week.
Wanking off, at an all time high.
This is a totally underrated movie and one of my favorites of all time. Good pull sir
It's a classic. It still plays heavily in the lexicon among me and my friends.
But will it be effective?
Over/Under Virginia Tech total wins: 6
I'll go with over. This was a game in which literally nothing went right for Tech. Nothing. There were issues all over the field of play with pretty much everyone in orange crapping themselves and playing uncharacteristically bad. Even the guys with experience were, just flat out bad.
I think back across sports, and I think back to the one thing Beamer used to preach... "Things are never as bad as they seem and things are never as good as they appear". As much as that night sucked, and as much as the knee jerk reaction makes me want to give up on the season, I just can't. We're a better team that that. We've played better than that this year. Teams bounce back strong after massive shittings like that all the time. At this point I would say the odds of us winning the ACC are higher than us allowing another game like that to happen. We got the awful game out of our system, and now its time to roll. Our pride was hurt last week, and now we're playing the rest of the year to amend that. I don't wanna say we run the table, but I think we're at least going to leave it all out on the field every game. We can't afford not to.
idk man did you read the film review? sure seems like things were even worse than they appeared.
That's kinda what I'm saying. It was just an uncharacteristically bad game from the team in all phases. When was the last time you saw something like that from this team? We've had teams with half the talent of this that were more on point than we were in Norfolk. We had dysfunctional teams that didn't shit the bed that badly.
I don't expect us to play that badly again. I don't think we're going to be a well oiled machine the rest of the year, but I don't foresee a series of games where literally everything that can go wrong goes wrong. That's what happened this past weekend. In my mind, its easier to chalk that up as a terrible performance, burn the tape, and move on. This team is too talented and too well coached to not rebound.
I totally agree with this sentiment. However, we can get through the season and not repeat a performance that bad...and still lose out. That's how bad the loss was on Saturday. We're not talking about a rough game where the bounces went the wrong way and we lost to a quality team. We're talking about playing like crap to a crap team and losing in an historically bad fashion. So even better games than that through the rest of the season could still very well be losses.
I need the Hokies to make me believe again this Saturday because my faith tank is at an all time low. I don't think I've ever EVER gone into a Duke game expecting to lose. Normally I have irrational optimism going into every game on our schedule that isn't against a blue blood.
In 2014 we entered the game @Duke when they were #19 and we were in the midst of a 3 game losing streak and won. I probably felt worse going into that one that I did this one.
I think more than anything, what gives me hope about our chances of being successful this week are that we have already been in to a hostile road environment on a big stage this year, against a team with significantly more talent. While I know Duke is better coached than FSU, I'm hoping our better athletes and great coaches can bring back those positive memories to drown out last week's negative ones.
Devils advocate: Duke is to us as we were to FSU. The coaching difference may not be the same but the talent disparity is pretty close.
We need an over/under for the Twitter mentions during the game calling for Hooker
at least 250 lol.
Alright folks! Let's make #HookerPackage trend Saturday evening!
I feel like a bad performance Saturday solidifies that this will be another long 6-6 season, although I don't see a repeat of 2010 because we had tyrod freaking taylor. I think a win Saturday puts us at 8-4 on the year.
How many times do the announcers mention Ryan Willis tranferred from Kansas. +-9.
Bud coming off of an embarrassing loss where he is taking a lot of the heat... give me Tech. He'll come out on a mission and have his guys ready. The only way I see the defense struggling is if we turn the ball over nonstop and the defense loses faith in the offense.
I have to say, the jabs at the ODU loss hurt a little less with each passing remark. Is this me getting over it because of the exposure to the pain or am I just losing a piece of my soul each time it is brought to the forefront of my mind because of your jokes? I'm really not sure but I'll take either one, I just want to play another football game.
Great article and I do think the exposure therapy is working. These are tears of joy.
So much sadness in this column, we need a win just to cheer up all the authors on this site...
I really need this team to rebound against Duke. One of the biggest drawbacks to being pregnant during football season has been not being able to drink while watching the ODU game. I don't know if I have the willpower to abstain again if we have another showing like that.
*insert gif of doctor from HIMYM saying "just a little bit"*
Don't you worry, I'll drink for both of us!
You haven't been already?
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The ODU loss was something that we never saw happening in our Wildest Dreams, but its time to just Shake If Off. It's a feeling we know All Too Well. It's time to get Mean and let the Sparks Fly. Let;s go 1-0 on our march Back to (the) December ACC Championship Game and when it's all over and we win we can be all like "Look What You Made Me Do".
You couldn't work in "We are never ever ever getting back together?"
Dammit wasknick, I knew you were trouble when you walked in.
Good thing I have a Getaway Car
You wouldn't need it if you were a Better Man.
I'm here for this timeline.
Ryan Willis about to ride in on a White Horse and throw no less than 22 touchdowns as our Fearless qb
I hope the defense will be seeing Red after that dismal performance last week, and we will see that Everything Has Changed this Saturday. If Willis can bring some Style to our offense we'll be Out of the Woods and our season might end up still alive on New Year's Day.
As long as we score 22 points on saturday, it will be The Best Day
I respect you, but
I feel like the number of inside jokes on TKP has been growing at an increasing rate.
Perhaps exponentially
Not inside jokes, but Taylor Swift song title reference as far as I could tell
"ACC Championship Game" is probably her best song
Last weekend has me feeling like there's a blank space in my soul
Old Dominion stole my soul. It's gone. With all hope and promise wiped away from the Hokies' 2018 campaign, my focus now turns solely to gambling
I could not agree more
PAY THE MAN HIS MAHNEE.
Also, what an asshole for splashing the pot like that.
I'm going to leave this here
The Virginia Tech Hokies are going to curb stomp the Duke University Blue Devils
Timestamped: Thursday, September 27th
You get credit for this win. 100%. Thank you for believing
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