Does the streak end this year (the LOLUVA streak).
I say that both of those things are gone this season. And with them, some serious inquiries about job security within the coaching staff need to be made.
Edit: I'm not saying fire everyone. Just some internal decisions seem necessary.
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Maybe? Something. I'm also beginning to be a bit skeptical of Fuente (I don't think he needs to be fired). He was a great OC, but is he a P5 head coach? We will know in the next season or so.
We are young, but for the second year in a row, the offense is regressing and mistake prone. That seems like an offensive staff issue to me.
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So we lose to UVA once in decade and a half, Bud has a youth movement that simply cannot sustain play for 4 quarters and you throw the baby out with the bathwater?
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The good part is we still control our own destiny and have 2 more home games. We have had favorable start times all season, which allows a nice Saturday (until the final whistle.).
Is everyone on here burning their orange and maroon fangear already? Damn.
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Each game individually is roughly a 50/50 proposition.
Chances are we win one. Might be able to steal a second. And even if we only win one, Whit will likely schedule some cupcake for conference championship week and we (should) make it to 6.
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I don't think we'll be favored in any of the final 3 games, but you are probably right that it's more than 50/50 we win at least one.
I'm not sure how I feel about scheduling a cupcake solely for the purpose of picking up a 6th win. This VT team is fully capable of losing to just about any team, and losing to a William & Mary-caliber team (just as an example of competition level) after scheduling it just to qualify for a bowl would be a humiliation of ODU/JMU proportions.
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Losing to Marshall is much less embarrassing than losing to ODU. And besides, I'd much rather have a shot at 6-6 than stay home at 5-6 because I'm too scared to play Marshall.
Edit: I say Marshall because they are one of three FBS teams (with the others being WVU, who both may be playing in the Big 12 championship game and is not a good opponent if our goal is a victory, and Southern Miss, who is likely going to play South Carolina) that had road games cancelled and who haven't already scheduled a replacement game.
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I would love to see us play South Carolina someday. It likely wouldn't have happened on December 1 because both teams needed to reschedule a home game, but maybe we'll meet up in a bowl game one of these days.
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I'm not scared to play Marshall, I just think it's kind of a weak move to schedule an end-of-the-season "easy win" game just to become bowl eligible. And to lose that game would be a kick in the nuts.
On the other hand, with such a young team it would be a good thing to get as much game experience as possible, and qualifying for a bowl game would be huge from the standpoint of extra practice time and post-season experience. So I guess ultimately I agree with you. I just don't feel great about it.
All that being said, I'm sure its ultimately going to be a business decision, and I doubt Whit is going to pass up the revenue from an extra home game (which is smart financially).
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I don't see how it's a "weak move" to schedule a replacement opponent for the one that cancelled a game earlier this season. Especially if we aren't looking for an easier win than said opponent.
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Once it became apparent we weren't living up to a national championship standard, the rallying cry under Beamer became 10 wins, ACC Championship. Once that eroded away, we reduced that to keeping the winning streak/bowl streak/UVA streak alive.
What standard will we, as a fan base, hold ourselves to if we have nothing to hide behind anymore this year? It's time for a serious culture shock with our program. Hate to see it happen, but it cannot be a crutch for mediocrity any longer.
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No we don't and uva beats us. Don't change anything this year. Give one more year to these coaches. Too much personel lost this year for me to blame them. Next year we will see.
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You watch Miami recently? They are also a dumpster fire that looked like ass at home against Duke. We are bitching about our offense while they are in a full blown QB carousel and managed all of 12 points.
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I'm done making predictions this season. Probably for the next couple of seasons as well. Like someone said in a thread earlier, we will be ok, but I'm just gonna chalk this season as a lost cause, remain hopeful for the next couple of years, and look forward to basketball season. Anything good that happens the rest of this season is just a pleasant surprise.
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Miami is currently losing to duke in Miami. They do not look great. Of course neither did GT or ODU. I thought BC was bearable today and we couldn't close the deal. I think this team can beat anyone left on the schedule, but would I put money on it? Nope.
We go bowling if we can reschedule a game to cover the ECU bail game and we dig down deep and refuse to let the LOLUVa streak end.
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I know it sounds insane but we can win every game left on the schedule. I wish we had Miami next week because they have been atrocious in the last 3 weeks. They are in a full blown QB carousel and scored 12 points at home versus Duke. Pitt is the least likely but if we stop the run, their QB has struggled with accuracy this season. UVA seems like a less than ideal matchup to me as well but apparently they have some key injuries on defense and we've pulled out a few we had no business winning during this streak.
I think we will most likely need the makeup game to make a bowl so it depends on who the opponent would be.
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Also of note: if GT does their normal thing, LOLUVA is sure to have a couple new injuries just 6 days before they play us. Not wishing that on anyone, of course, but chop block U happens.
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That's a good point. Also now that I think about it, our offense against Pitt's defense could present a favorable matchup. Narduzzi likes to load the box and leave CBs 1 on 1 on the outside. That would actually play to our strength this year and I imagine Willis would be throwing lots of fades. We had a good amount of success doing that against FSU and Duke.
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From watching the Pitt UVA it looks like Pitt runs shorter CBs and taller safeties... Not sure. I can't tell from their roster as everyone is listed as DB.
I think our receivers should do well vs their secondary.
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As bleak as it looks, I have a hard time seeing us lose 5 straight games, and if we win just one of the next 3 I would think we would schedule a meaningless creampuff 12th game makeup at the end of the year to get that 6th win. So for now I will say yes, we still make a bowl, even if it's barely squeaking into the Math Empo Solo Cup bowl or something.
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I would have said that 2 or 3 weeks ago as well with regards to the not losing 5 straight, but this team just doesn't show up in the second half and that's been one of the sad consistents this season. I want more than anything to win 2 more including the Commonwealth Cup, but I just don't know who we beat to snap the streak.
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This. I think it would have to be an fbs team since we already had an fcs on the schedule. Maybe ODU will want a third win this year and offer us a rematch.
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I believe it would have to be another team that is only playing 11 games, right? And from that group I would think it would be one of the teams that was already scheduled to play a road game. That leaves WVU, Southern Miss and Marshall. WVU could be in the Big XII title game and have nothing to gain by playing VT. Marshall makes the most sense due to the proximity and the fact that Marshall fans may buy some tickets.
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I'd be down for a Marshall game. Wouldn't be surprised if Whit announces it as soon as we eliminate ourselves from the coastal race. Hope that's not on Black Friday because of the quick turnaround and because it would mean a loss to LOLUVa.
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I want everyone to know that I am not donating to Hokie Club for next year and will not buy season tickets again next season. I'm not giving anything to support Fuente's inflated salary if he is unwilling to make changes. Don't like the guy, and will take VT brass centuries to admit they screwed up. I will make a donation to the academic side instead. #tiredofmediocrity
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Not saying that at all, he deserves his fair share of blame. However I think results would be no worse 3 years in for less money and probably better assistants.
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Sorry mixed up total revenue and coaching salary. But 24th isn't right either because not every school reports salary or total salary. So Fuente is somewhere in the 26-30th range in paid coaches.
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Gotcha, and understand re: non-reported numbers. That puts him in an effective tie for 3rd place in the ACC with Richt and Petrino. The only two above them are Taggart and Dabo.
4 of the top 5 represent $17M in HC salary alone, with a combined 15-20 record. Ouch.
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Meanwhile, hope and pray that over your career, everything stays lined up perfectly for you and nothing happens out of your control. If not, someone may want to fire you immediately without actual knowledge of how to do your job or what it could even take to be remotely successful in your field.
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we have a "chance" of beating bama... Anything can happen. Quantum mechanics says there is a chance you phase through your chair and end up on the floor. "A chance" is meaningless.
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Exactly. We need to win one of the next 3 coin flips, and then schedule Marshall and actually beat them. Or, we need to win 2 of the next 3 coin flips. Either way, I see about a 70% chance of a bowl game in our future.
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As awful as this season is the only way I could get more sick is if they put JJ back in. I'm not satisfied with Willis but holy fuck he's one of the few that acts like he wants to be there
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Pitt scares me - they looked very good against UVA on Friday.
UVA, I think, will beat us this year - as a team, they are more disciplined and will play their assignments. Perkins scares me against our youth on defense.
Unless we get the Marshall game on December 3, no bowl. Getting to a bowl game this year, however, would give us the much needed boost from a team morale perspective going into the offseason.
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We will have gone a full year without beating a power 5 opponent in Lane. Bowl streak, UVA streak, losing to P5 teams at home streak...this team is not good.
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I think we still have a decent chance to win out. BC was the best team we have played this year other than ND. They are strong, physical, and have a dominant run game (things that I wish we had). The offense fell apart in the second half ( a season long problem).
But Pitt is Pitt, they are flukey, good one week bad the next. We should get bad Pitt next week.
Miami is a bigger dumpster fire offensively than we are.
LOLUVA the players will get up for to keep the streak going. The cheese eating, zima swilling hoo's also just lost, that will get back in their heads.
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Do y'all seriously believe we don't have a chance to win one out of the next 3? All we have to do is win one and then we can reschedule a bad team right?
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I would just like to point out that Pitt is the only reason UNCheat isn't unwinfeated in conference play. Yes, they played LOLUVA like BC played us, but they are just as capable of crapping the bed as we are. Not saying we win, but let's find some other way to pass the time than fretting over what if for the next week. Your blood pressure and liver will thank you.
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We are 1 freak fumble away from having a loss to UNCheat as well. I wouldn't underestimate Pitt, they are on an upward trajectory and I'm sure they are salivating after last years incredible goal line stand.
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Yes, but we have got to play near-perfect games, No bonehead personal fouls, catch passes that hit you in the numbers/hands AND KEEP PEOPLES IN THE DAMN GAME. Put in McClease to give Peoples a breather maybe once a quarter.
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No bonehead personal fouls, catch passes that hit you in the numbers/hands
^^^^This - we are consistently shooting ourselves in the foot contributing to some of our losses and making some of our wins closer than they should be. I will also add that we need to be much better in the second half.
ND - down by a point at the half, but felt like we should have been up 2-3 scores if not for stupid mistakes. ND depth takes over in the 2nd half.
GT - down by a score at half, but nix the botched punt return and we could have been up 2 scores, which changes the whole complexion of the game when playing GT
BC - up 7 at the half with boneheaded mistakes throughout the game
Seems like I'm missing a game here, but don't remember it
All three of the teams remaining on our schedule are as up and down as we are - meaning all are winnable (and losable). Cleaning up the boneheadedness, and performing as well in the 2nd half as we tend to in the 1st, would go a long way toward changing the outcome of the next 3 games.
While I do not think we win out, I am dumbfounded that we are still in control of our destiny at this point.
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It's a stronger possibility than it seems on the surface. All three games remaining are coinflips. Near the end of the radio broadcast last night Jon Laaser hinted at the possibility of a rescheduled game still being on the table.
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I actually think we get 2 more games. Miami is really struggling and UVa is 50/50 in my eyes. Pitt looks tough at the moment, but we are doing well with away games.
it will be a shame if streaks end, but I'm honestly more excited for the future right now. This is going to be a great learning season for these kids.
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Marshall lost yesterday, so I don't think they are eligible for their conference championship anymore. if we schedule them, I think we make a bowl.
I will always have @pitt as a loss. I think we beat either miami or uva, and then Marshall to qualify for a bowl.
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Yes. This team looks bad (very bad at times), but I think they have some fire left in them.
If they have 2 more games to not burn QP, why not bring him in before we NEED a TD drive? Maybe start him against Pitt or better yet, against Miami at home.
This team will give their all (I know they have already and look at it), but I think there is more to fight for, including an outside shot of winning the Coastal.
There is some sloppy execution, but I didn't see anyone quit when GT was kicking their heads in and moving 6 yards a clip. They hung in there and fought.
The only people who hate Narduche more than this message board are those playing and coaches on VTs sideline.
Miami is shit.
UVA might not be total shit this year, but these guys know what this game means AND its at home. They are not going to let some Cavs roll in here and crap on the streak, they will put it on the line.
Easy for those not in the arena to bemoan the state of the program, but I don't see them quitting, I see them getting beat. But if they are to fall, they will go down swinging.
So what I'm saying is there is a chance, and I'll take that chance until there is no more chances left.
LETS GO!
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Because he is a true freshmen 3rd was 4th strong QB I'm willing to bet he hasn't even have the entire play book down much less how to read different college level defensive schemes.
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So if not start him, get him more than a drive. Each time he has come in, the team has taken their play to another level. Let him keep it simple and see what happens. I'm not anti-willis, I am pro QP.
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SAY this team turns it around
SAY the offense gets on the same page
SAY the defense starts controlling the game
SAY this team wins out
SAY this team plays in the ACCCG
SAY this team somehow, by some input of god, beats Clemson
Because we would be the ACC champs would we get a NY6 Bowl???
/s
*This is just a hypothetical, because there is no way in heck this happens
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I think we get one win out of the next three (Pitt, Miami, LOLUva), but am VERY doubtful it's Pitt. Either way I am prepared for 12 hours of stomach ache, not including any added game on Dec. 1, which would definitely add 4 more hours.
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I would love to suck enough to play in Annapolis again or get lucky and play in Music City if it's possible with bowl affiliations. Annapolis and Nashville are a lot of fun.
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Lmaooookillme. I'd be happy if we showed fight in one more game this year. No we don't make a bowl.
Have you been watching g this team?
Nah, we go 5-7. Lose to UVa. It's over, it's all over. We're a bass fishing school now.
You do realize that it's an 11 game regular season. If their record is 5-7 then they would have gone to a bowl.
Whit is going to schedule a 12th game if we don't make the ACCCG.
A good edit should be that you also ask:
Does the streak end this year (the LOLUVA streak).
I say that both of those things are gone this season. And with them, some serious inquiries about job security within the coaching staff need to be made.
Edit: I'm not saying fire everyone. Just some internal decisions seem necessary.
Like, say, the offensive coordinator?
Maybe? Something. I'm also beginning to be a bit skeptical of Fuente (I don't think he needs to be fired). He was a great OC, but is he a P5 head coach? We will know in the next season or so.
We are young, but for the second year in a row, the offense is regressing and mistake prone. That seems like an offensive staff issue to me.
So we lose to UVA once in decade and a half, Bud has a youth movement that simply cannot sustain play for 4 quarters and you throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Also, and I feel someone needs to be a stickler about this, we haven't actually played that game yet.
Bingo, uva isn't exactly lighting the world on fire any more than we are...wait are couches and dumpsters safe in Morgantown and Knoxville?
No.
No as of today.
I love Busch light.
Rookie
Sad part is that we still control our destiny.
"control"
Could be worse.
We could be UNC.
The good part is we still control our own destiny and have 2 more home games. We have had favorable start times all season, which allows a nice Saturday (until the final whistle.).
Is everyone on here burning their orange and maroon fangear already? Damn.
we have controlled our destiny this whole season.
Nope. We also lose to UVA
No. I don't see how we Pitt @ Pitt. They are looking good. Miami is probably gonna kill us. And UVA is probably gonna finally win.
Side note: Since we beat WVU both teams have taken entirely different trajectories.
Not only no, but hell no.
For good measure: UVA streak ends, too.
2018 is the lowest low this program has had in the past 25 years.
When we win out and beat Clemson in the ACCCG, don't we go to the Peach Bowl?
Probably. Could be the Fiesta as well, depending on what other teams make the NY6.
Peach is a playoff game this year. Not positive a 4-loss team would make the playoff.
Nah, Orange and Cotton this year.
I think even winning another game is a 50/50 prospect.
I was actually surprised we were so competitive today, and we have a chance in all 3 of our final games. But it wouldn't be a shock if we finish 4-7.
Each game individually is roughly a 50/50 proposition.
Chances are we win one. Might be able to steal a second. And even if we only win one, Whit will likely schedule some cupcake for conference championship week and we (should) make it to 6.
I don't think we'll be favored in any of the final 3 games, but you are probably right that it's more than 50/50 we win at least one.
I'm not sure how I feel about scheduling a cupcake solely for the purpose of picking up a 6th win. This VT team is fully capable of losing to just about any team, and losing to a William & Mary-caliber team (just as an example of competition level) after scheduling it just to qualify for a bowl would be a humiliation of ODU/JMU proportions.
Losing to Marshall is much less embarrassing than losing to ODU. And besides, I'd much rather have a shot at 6-6 than stay home at 5-6 because I'm too scared to play Marshall.
Edit: I say Marshall because they are one of three FBS teams (with the others being WVU, who both may be playing in the Big 12 championship game and is not a good opponent if our goal is a victory, and Southern Miss, who is likely going to play South Carolina) that had road games cancelled and who haven't already scheduled a replacement game.
South Carolina is scheduled to play Akron.
Interesting. In that case it opens up USM as a second option. Not sure it really helps though.
I would love to see us play South Carolina someday. It likely wouldn't have happened on December 1 because both teams needed to reschedule a home game, but maybe we'll meet up in a bowl game one of these days.
I'm not scared to play Marshall, I just think it's kind of a weak move to schedule an end-of-the-season "easy win" game just to become bowl eligible. And to lose that game would be a kick in the nuts.
On the other hand, with such a young team it would be a good thing to get as much game experience as possible, and qualifying for a bowl game would be huge from the standpoint of extra practice time and post-season experience. So I guess ultimately I agree with you. I just don't feel great about it.
All that being said, I'm sure its ultimately going to be a business decision, and I doubt Whit is going to pass up the revenue from an extra home game (which is smart financially).
I don't see how it's a "weak move" to schedule a replacement opponent for the one that cancelled a game earlier this season. Especially if we aren't looking for an easier win than said opponent.
Nope all streaks end this season!
Yes with 5 wins and our APR.
Yes
Defense made some key stops in that game. Like after the running into the kicker. Peoples and the passing game are good at times.
No, and to top it off, I don't see us beating UVa this year either.
Without a rescheduled game I doubt it.
We need to have a game where the offense and defense both look competent. It's been either or for most of the season.
I don't think so.
All of our streaks are ending this year
We are long overdue for a legitimate humbling season. This is it
Once it became apparent we weren't living up to a national championship standard, the rallying cry under Beamer became 10 wins, ACC Championship. Once that eroded away, we reduced that to keeping the winning streak/bowl streak/UVA streak alive.
What standard will we, as a fan base, hold ourselves to if we have nothing to hide behind anymore this year? It's time for a serious culture shock with our program. Hate to see it happen, but it cannot be a crutch for mediocrity any longer.
Unleashing QP next season.
A deep WR core.
Younger guys who have been through the fire and have no doubt heard the yells and jeers from the peanut gallery.
No we don't and uva beats us. Don't change anything this year. Give one more year to these coaches. Too much personel lost this year for me to blame them. Next year we will see.
Pitt kills us
Miami wins by two touchdowns
Uva beats us in a close one
No bowl
This team isnt even competitive until 2020.....
Sorry ...but you better buckle up cause the next year and a half is going to suck balls.
You watch Miami recently? They are also a dumpster fire that looked like ass at home against Duke. We are bitching about our offense while they are in a full blown QB carousel and managed all of 12 points.
I'm done making predictions this season. Probably for the next couple of seasons as well. Like someone said in a thread earlier, we will be ok, but I'm just gonna chalk this season as a lost cause, remain hopeful for the next couple of years, and look forward to basketball season. Anything good that happens the rest of this season is just a pleasant surprise.
Miami is currently losing to duke in Miami. They do not look great. Of course neither did GT or ODU. I thought BC was bearable today and we couldn't close the deal. I think this team can beat anyone left on the schedule, but would I put money on it? Nope.
We go bowling if we can reschedule a game to cover the ECU bail game and we dig down deep and refuse to let the LOLUVa streak end.
So I like to go down with the ship. I'm gonna be one of the few to say yes.
I'm in
I know it sounds insane but we can win every game left on the schedule. I wish we had Miami next week because they have been atrocious in the last 3 weeks. They are in a full blown QB carousel and scored 12 points at home versus Duke. Pitt is the least likely but if we stop the run, their QB has struggled with accuracy this season. UVA seems like a less than ideal matchup to me as well but apparently they have some key injuries on defense and we've pulled out a few we had no business winning during this streak.
I think we will most likely need the makeup game to make a bowl so it depends on who the opponent would be.
Also of note: if GT does their normal thing, LOLUVA is sure to have a couple new injuries just 6 days before they play us. Not wishing that on anyone, of course, but chop block U happens.
That's a good point. Also now that I think about it, our offense against Pitt's defense could present a favorable matchup. Narduzzi likes to load the box and leave CBs 1 on 1 on the outside. That would actually play to our strength this year and I imagine Willis would be throwing lots of fades. We had a good amount of success doing that against FSU and Duke.
From watching the Pitt UVA it looks like Pitt runs shorter CBs and taller safeties... Not sure. I can't tell from their roster as everyone is listed as DB.
I think our receivers should do well vs their secondary.
As bleak as it looks, I have a hard time seeing us lose 5 straight games, and if we win just one of the next 3 I would think we would schedule a meaningless creampuff 12th game makeup at the end of the year to get that 6th win. So for now I will say yes, we still make a bowl, even if it's barely squeaking into the Math Empo Solo Cup bowl or something.
I would have said that 2 or 3 weeks ago as well with regards to the not losing 5 straight, but this team just doesn't show up in the second half and that's been one of the sad consistents this season. I want more than anything to win 2 more including the Commonwealth Cup, but I just don't know who we beat to snap the streak.
I'm a little concerned that there is no such thing as a meaningless creampuff opponent this season...
This. I think it would have to be an fbs team since we already had an fcs on the schedule. Maybe ODU will want a third win this year and offer us a rematch.
I believe it would have to be another team that is only playing 11 games, right? And from that group I would think it would be one of the teams that was already scheduled to play a road game. That leaves WVU, Southern Miss and Marshall. WVU could be in the Big XII title game and have nothing to gain by playing VT. Marshall makes the most sense due to the proximity and the fact that Marshall fans may buy some tickets.
I'd be down for a Marshall game. Wouldn't be surprised if Whit announces it as soon as we eliminate ourselves from the coastal race. Hope that's not on Black Friday because of the quick turnaround and because it would mean a loss to LOLUVa.
I'm sure if he has something to announce, it'll happen before the UVA game, even if the game is a "maybe" a la NC State and ECU.
I want everyone to know that I am not donating to Hokie Club for next year and will not buy season tickets again next season. I'm not giving anything to support Fuente's inflated salary if he is unwilling to make changes. Don't like the guy, and will take VT brass centuries to admit they screwed up. I will make a donation to the academic side instead. #tiredofmediocrity
That may be what it takes and I'm sure you are not alone.
His 45th-50th ranked salary is inflated?
More than this staff deserves right now. Bronco with less talent and little football support is coaching circles around them right now.
Could have just promoted Bud and likely had more money for better assistants with results no worse than what we have seen so far.
So now Bud is back in the fans good side? Because just last week he was past his prime and wasn't recruiting after the loss to GT.
Not saying that at all, he deserves his fair share of blame. However I think results would be no worse 3 years in for less money and probably better assistants.
USA Today says 24th. Are they wrong?
Sorry mixed up total revenue and coaching salary. But 24th isn't right either because not every school reports salary or total salary. So Fuente is somewhere in the 26-30th range in paid coaches.
Gotcha, and understand re: non-reported numbers. That puts him in an effective tie for 3rd place in the ACC with Richt and Petrino. The only two above them are Taggart and Dabo.
4 of the top 5 represent $17M in HC salary alone, with a combined 15-20 record. Ouch.
Meanwhile, hope and pray that over your career, everything stays lined up perfectly for you and nothing happens out of your control. If not, someone may want to fire you immediately without actual knowledge of how to do your job or what it could even take to be remotely successful in your field.
We have a chance to win any of the next three games on the schedule.
So maybe having drunk fans call this tonight isn't the best idea.
we have a "chance" of beating bama... Anything can happen. Quantum mechanics says there is a chance you phase through your chair and end up on the floor. "A chance" is meaningless.
We're playing 3 teams that are about precisely as good as we are. I think a "chance" is pretty meaningful with Alabama off the schedule.
The goal stated for this thread was "make a bowl game." Not evaluating playoff odds.
Exactly. We need to win one of the next 3 coin flips, and then schedule Marshall and actually beat them. Or, we need to win 2 of the next 3 coin flips. Either way, I see about a 70% chance of a bowl game in our future.
how has your comment aged?
they way we are playing we make everyone look like bama.
For fucks sake, we make ODU look like bama.
Perhaps.
How about this?
Onward and Upward
Lets say we do make a bowl? Who is traveling to the Dung Beatle Bowl in Amarillo?
Only if JJ gets back..
Why do you think JJ would lead us to 2 more wins?
As awful as this season is the only way I could get more sick is if they put JJ back in. I'm not satisfied with Willis but holy fuck he's one of the few that acts like he wants to be there
I think we beat Miami.
Pitt scares me - they looked very good against UVA on Friday.
UVA, I think, will beat us this year - as a team, they are more disciplined and will play their assignments. Perkins scares me against our youth on defense.
Unless we get the Marshall game on December 3, no bowl. Getting to a bowl game this year, however, would give us the much needed boost from a team morale perspective going into the offseason.
Looks bad, boss. I think we get one. Not a good one, but just enough to get another month of practice.
Frankly, that's all we need.
This isn't the year to play a great team.
We will have gone a full year without beating a power 5 opponent in Lane. Bowl streak, UVA streak, losing to P5 teams at home streak...this team is not good.
I think we still have a decent chance to win out. BC was the best team we have played this year other than ND. They are strong, physical, and have a dominant run game (things that I wish we had). The offense fell apart in the second half ( a season long problem).
But Pitt is Pitt, they are flukey, good one week bad the next. We should get bad Pitt next week.
Miami is a bigger dumpster fire offensively than we are.
LOLUVA the players will get up for to keep the streak going. The cheese eating, zima swilling hoo's also just lost, that will get back in their heads.
Do y'all seriously believe we don't have a chance to win one out of the next 3? All we have to do is win one and then we can reschedule a bad team right?
I would just like to point out that Pitt is the only reason UNCheat isn't unwinfeated in conference play. Yes, they played LOLUVA like BC played us, but they are just as capable of crapping the bed as we are. Not saying we win, but let's find some other way to pass the time than fretting over what if for the next week. Your blood pressure and liver will thank you.
We are 1 freak fumble away from having a loss to UNCheat as well. I wouldn't underestimate Pitt, they are on an upward trajectory and I'm sure they are salivating after last years incredible goal line stand.
Yes, but we have got to play near-perfect games, No bonehead personal fouls, catch passes that hit you in the numbers/hands AND KEEP PEOPLES IN THE DAMN GAME. Put in McClease to give Peoples a breather maybe once a quarter.
So based on your criteria...no, we most definitely won't make a bowl game lol.
^^^^This - we are consistently shooting ourselves in the foot contributing to some of our losses and making some of our wins closer than they should be. I will also add that we need to be much better in the second half.
ND - down by a point at the half, but felt like we should have been up 2-3 scores if not for stupid mistakes. ND depth takes over in the 2nd half.
GT - down by a score at half, but nix the botched punt return and we could have been up 2 scores, which changes the whole complexion of the game when playing GT
BC - up 7 at the half with boneheaded mistakes throughout the game
Seems like I'm missing a game here, but don't remember it
All three of the teams remaining on our schedule are as up and down as we are - meaning all are winnable (and losable). Cleaning up the boneheadedness, and performing as well in the 2nd half as we tend to in the 1st, would go a long way toward changing the outcome of the next 3 games.
While I do not think we win out, I am dumbfounded that we are still in control of our destiny at this point.
It's a stronger possibility than it seems on the surface. All three games remaining are coinflips. Near the end of the radio broadcast last night Jon Laaser hinted at the possibility of a rescheduled game still being on the table.
I actually think we get 2 more games. Miami is really struggling and UVa is 50/50 in my eyes. Pitt looks tough at the moment, but we are doing well with away games.
it will be a shame if streaks end, but I'm honestly more excited for the future right now. This is going to be a great learning season for these kids.
If we schedule some scrub at home on Dec 1, then maybe. Getting one more win in the next three looks really tough.
Probably not. My problem isn't even that we're 4-4, it's that we're 2-4 in the last 6 and one lucky break vs. UNC away from being 1-5 over that span.
At best, the Clorox Toilet Bowl
Marshall lost yesterday, so I don't think they are eligible for their conference championship anymore. if we schedule them, I think we make a bowl.
I will always have @pitt as a loss. I think we beat either miami or uva, and then Marshall to qualify for a bowl.
Nope
Yes. This team looks bad (very bad at times), but I think they have some fire left in them.
If they have 2 more games to not burn QP, why not bring him in before we NEED a TD drive? Maybe start him against Pitt or better yet, against Miami at home.
This team will give their all (I know they have already and look at it), but I think there is more to fight for, including an outside shot of winning the Coastal.
There is some sloppy execution, but I didn't see anyone quit when GT was kicking their heads in and moving 6 yards a clip. They hung in there and fought.
The only people who hate Narduche more than this message board are those playing and coaches on VTs sideline.
Miami is shit.
UVA might not be total shit this year, but these guys know what this game means AND its at home. They are not going to let some Cavs roll in here and crap on the streak, they will put it on the line.
Easy for those not in the arena to bemoan the state of the program, but I don't see them quitting, I see them getting beat. But if they are to fall, they will go down swinging.
So what I'm saying is there is a chance, and I'll take that chance until there is no more chances left.
LETS GO!
HOKIES!
Because he is a true freshmen 3rd was 4th strong QB I'm willing to bet he hasn't even have the entire play book down much less how to read different college level defensive schemes.
So if not start him, get him more than a drive. Each time he has come in, the team has taken their play to another level. Let him keep it simple and see what happens. I'm not anti-willis, I am pro QP.
True, but you also want to put him in a situation with a high probability of success.
SAY this team turns it around
SAY the offense gets on the same page
SAY the defense starts controlling the game
SAY this team wins out
SAY this team plays in the ACCCG
SAY this team somehow, by some input of god, beats Clemson
Because we would be the ACC champs would we get a NY6 Bowl???
/s
*This is just a hypothetical, because there is no way in heck this happens
I mean, yes, if we win our next 4 games we will play in either the Peach Bowl or the Fiesta Bowl.
That is the current state of affairs.
Hell, we could still lose to Miami and make it to Charlotte with a bit of help.
There'd be no room on the bandwagon, that's for damn sure.
Beat Clemson? Everyone knows we are beating BC in a rematch for the ACC Championship!
Party like it's 2008
I think we get one win out of the next three (Pitt, Miami, LOLUva), but am VERY doubtful it's Pitt. Either way I am prepared for 12 hours of stomach ache, not including any added game on Dec. 1, which would definitely add 4 more hours.
I would love to suck enough to play in Annapolis again or get lucky and play in Music City if it's possible with bowl affiliations. Annapolis and Nashville are a lot of fun.
One game at a time. Can't afford to think too far ahead. Stay focused on 1-0 every week.