One of the weirdest football stories I have ever heard, so I thought I would share.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/story/_/id/9863505/aledo-football-coach-tim-bu...
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Will the UVa bigwigs try to pull the same stunt on us, when we stomp them in November?
Bullies accuse Virginia Tech of Sam Rogers
That means that the losing team was just that bad.
And I think that person is likely a parent of a child that has "fragile self-esteem".
Reading the article, it doesn't sound like the losing team's coach had anything negative about the players or coaches of the winning team. I mean, 91-0 sucks. My PW team that went 2-7 got close to the wrong side of that a couple times. I think the filer(s) of the bullying complaint need to take a big step back and a good, long look at the reality of the situation.
1.) Your team is 0-fer X.
2.) Their team is undefeated and the top-rated program of that size in the area, likely for a reason.
3.) What was your team doing all off-season? Working in the weight room or becoming one with the couch/poolside?
We agree completely.
When you have a mother like this who filed the bullying complaint, even though the coach and players of the losing team haven't expressed any suspicion of unsportsmanlike play, I think you can pretty much conclude that this mother has very little grasp of reality.
I mean, what was the winning team supposed to do? Punt on every 1st down once they went up by 21? That's not fair to 2nd- and 3rd-stringers who want game reps.
And I think, how much does it suck to be her kid? How can you be a young man and football player and show up with your head high in school after mommy issues a bullying complaint on your behalf. Good grief.
I'd have to assume the kid doesn't know any different.
Prob not. He's happy with his breakfast participation ribbon every morning.
It must have been filed by a parent who gives their kid a participation trophy for coming to breakfast every morning.
Unbelievable. The fact that the school district took this seriously and investigated makes me sick. I'm going to order an Aledo Football tshirt online now.
They had no choice, state law requires an investigation into any allegation of bullying.
how is this bullying. I have been on both sides of this when I played sports. I played soccer and found it irritating when a team was beating us by 5-7+ and then just passed the ball around. I'd rather have them keep doing what they were doing before than get pity. At least you can learn something if they are going 100%. Play in a rec league if you want it to be about fun
I played in one game where we won 17-3. We honestly couldn't even just pass around. The other coach has his keeper playing at midfield because he didn't know what offsides was. What else were we supposed to do when we had to clear the ball and it already went past the keeper at midfield?
please tell me this is the game I'm thinking of (and unfortunately lost in) and it hasn't happened anywhere else...manchester vs bailey bridge?
That it is.
please say Manchester was the team scoring 17 goals..
It was. At least we believe it was 17 goals.
Bailey Bridge...yea they weren't very good. How long ago was this game?
I played for Matoaca (admittedly, I was pretty bad). Redistricting happened before my 8th grade year so the good kids from Salem were merged with us. We were suddenly very good and I was relegated to the bench.
It was about 8 years ago I think. We we're very good at Manchester because they sent all the smart kids there and now since they changed that program again, Robious has been running the table like we we're at Manchester.
Oh, I'm only like a year older than you. I think I was in 8th (fall 2005) or 9th ('06) grade when this happened. I was actually at Manchester in 6th grade for that program, then got moved to Matoaca as they opened up another one "closer" to my home (as the crow flies, sure. Not as the car/bus drives though. My middle school was next to farmland). Pretty sure that program is starting to fall apart.
I feel the same way. When I went to Maggie Walker in high school, Godwin (ranked 1 in the country, had parade all Americans) would kill us every year (this was 10-14 years ago). In the second half they would put their starting keeper on the field playing forward since they would be up 4 or 5 by now. Our goal as a defense would be to stop him from scoring. Even if we lost 8-0, this was a point of pride and a small victory we could take from the game.
My son plays in a travel league and has tournaments frequently. Recently, we played in one where the max "points" you could receive for the game was in a 6-0 shutout. 3 for the win. 1 for the shutout. 1 for every goal. BUT, if you won by more than 6, they started reducing the number of points for each goal. So, a 6-0 game would get you 10 points. A 10-0 win would get you 6 points. I though this was a little absurd. I mean all the teams PAID to be there in a tournament, and if you cannot compete, then don't put yourself in that position. In one game, we were up 6-0 and never crossed the 30 yard line in the second half just playing keep away. To me that's more embarrassing for the other team, chasing the ball around like a dog for the whole second half.
I actually read somewhere that the opposing coach even said it was just an unfortunate situation and he knew there was no malicious intent on the other sideline.
When you start playing at a competitive level in sports, whether it be a travel team, competitive rec leave, and definitely high school, it's not all about having fun anymore. You're playing to win and if you can't win and you can't stop the other team's 3rd and 4th string from running you up and down the field then either get better, learn to take a beating, or quit. It's really that simple.
My high school football team gets this all the time. We run the ball 95% of the time, but we're pretty decent. We play in a very rural area, and my high school is by no means a big school, but some schools struggle to even get a team together. We will play them and absolutely destroy them. After halftime we are playing our backups' backups and running the ball literally every play, the other team just can't stop it. What is the dominant team supposed to do? Tell the kids who barely get to see the field that they have to take a knee before crossing the plane? Should they fumble on purpose?
I hate parents like this. If you don't like watching your kids get their butts handed to them, tell them to get better, teach them some dedication. If they can't do that then they can quit.
And the pussification of America continues.
The parent making the complaint is the one bullying. Apparently giving it your all and performing at your very best at every moment is now a bad thing. Disgusting.
horrible abuse of the system.
So correct.
The complete disregard of the proper use of the system designed to prevent bullying allows an anonymous bully to strike at someone he does not like.
The system assumes maturity on the part of the accuser in order to act as the check on the system. It's the outliers that are given full shrift when none are deserved.
Imagine how many cases this could lead to. Someone gets picked last in gym class. One of the kids doesn't get a chance to answer a math question. The kid in front of them in lunch line gets the last apple sauce. I hope the board doesn't allow this to turn into a revolving door of silly complaints.
As in everything else - you cannot have equal opportunity and equality in results. Everyone is different - some people are just better at football than others. If you want every kid to have a chance to play football, they will not experience equal results.
This is yet another case from Texas. Less than a month ago there were articles all over yahoo/etc about teams basically having to punt and and kick field goals so the school doesn't get punished for running the score up.
All QBs facing the Hokie defense have probably accuse them for bullying lol
And linebackers who have to stop the Logan Thomas draw.
A co worker and I just talked about this today. His son is on the football team at Western Hills, and said they all knew what was going to happen. His son and friends didnt' take the loss hard, but I guess it's just the helicopter parents doing their moronic thing. They'll be wondering why their kids can't function on their own and live on their on when they're 30.
I remember in the 8th grade walking out to mid field for the coin toss against Pulaski. First thing i saw were shins the size of fence posts on their captains. As I worked my eyes up the torso and reached the faces half-way concealed by face masks I had a bad feeling when I saw all three guys were sporting full mustaches. Amazingly we took the opening kick off and scored first. They got the ball and on their first play tried to run it up the middle. That was jammed, but no problem. The big boy who had the ball was also very fast and just darted towards a wide open sideline and a seventy yard or so TD. The rout was on. No one I know ever thought to call the Pussy Police. What's funny, by the time I graduated those same guys were still playing for Pulaski. They were just big, and talented, for their age.
It was even worse when we played them in basketball.
Its at a time like this that I wish the coach had left the first string in the ENTIRE game. G*D D@ammit, its not like the team scored that many more points than usual. Their average victory is over 60 points, so even winning by 90 barely bumped that average up. And at what point does the coach owe it to his first stringers to allow them to stay in games so that college recruiters and coaches can get a full game tape on these players who ALL probably want football scholarships. I doubt they need much in the way of advertisement, seeing how often they are state champions but what happens to the starters later in the year when they get to the playoffs and actually need to play an entire game and haven't had to do it the entire year because they are blowing everyone out.
Only method I have seen coaches readily apply in this kind of situation that slowed the scoring was to send their team in with the goal of moving the sticks. Get a first down, end the play safely, get another first down. Work the drive as if their opponent was decent. The reason I hate seeing any of that is when you tell a kid to hesitate on a football field it puts them at risk of getting hurt.
Sounds as if the coach did just about all he could to keep the situation as contained as possible and the woeful mollycoddling parent should have to offer an apology publicly.
If anything, it's the athletics regulatory commission (whatever it's called for the area) that should have rules in place for such a thing. I know in many places I've been to, there's a mercy rule in baseball/softball/soccer. Is there no mercy rule for these decidedly one-sided affairs?
It shouldn't be on the coaches or the players who are there to play. If the coach gets third and fourth stringers on the field, they shouldn't be in there just to bow down to the other team. They want to play, too, and they should be allowed to try there hardest to score and play. If you're up something like 50-0 by halftime, it should be on the refs to seek an agreement by the coaches or something to end the game there, not the coach of the clearly dominant team to kneel.
The refs did have an agreement to shorten the game. They went with a running clock for the entire second half to shorten the game. The coach put in his worst players, but they were still better than this teams best effort.
Sometimes your opponent just....... well........ can't stop you even when you take it easy. Looks like nothing, short of getting helmets for the cheerleaders, would have changed anything.
I'll add this - wouldn't it be even MORE insulting if the winning team had sent out the backups and instructed them to dive for two yards, take a knee, punt on third down, etc? If an opponent is going to kick the crap out of my team, at least actually play the game.
Fat finger down vote, someone pick it up for me please.
Done
Appreciate it.
We were always told its the offense's job to go score points.....it's the defense's job to keep the offense from scoring points.....if one side doesn't do it's job, they generally don't win. This is the gist of the objective of football. If you don't want your kid to understand the game, and perhaps gather a few life-lessons along the way, don't let him play. Keep him in his plastic-bubble world, protect him, and show him that mommy and daddy will always be there for him, and then get the basement ready, cause he's gonna live there for a long, long, time.
I've been on the losing end of a beating or two and it was because we weren't good. It wasn't bullying, it was the fact they were bigger, faster, and stronger than us. Disgusting and sad story.
I heard about this on Cowherd today as well. Apparently the coach asked the refs to go running clock during the third quarter. They started subbing in guys in the first quarter.
All I can think is that this complaint, if public (which I'm sure it has to be) is going to lead to that parent's son being bullied a lot in school.
...and once its public knowledge, you know it wont be long until its viral on the internet and than imagine that kids facebook pages and other information getting blown up or the news crews parked outside the family's residence.
I wouldn't feel bullied. Mad? Yes. Frustrated? Yes. Enough to take a cheap shot at one of their star guys? Maybe. But I wouldn't feel bullied.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/story/_/id/9867314/aledo-coaches-cleared-bully...
At least common sense seems to have won out in this case.....
I played on a bad club soccer team for a while. There wasn't a space in the league when we first formed, but there was a spot in an age group above us. So we went up an age group for a year. We were getting waxed every game by double digits (remember, this is soccer), but it was ok. Almost all of the teams we played exhibited a high level of sportsmanship (almost...one team was a bunch of d0uche$). Everyone understood. We didn't take it personal.
As a Psych major, this really peaks my interest. I myself haven't studied bullying a ton, but a few of my classes have at least touched on it. My biggest concern with this isn't just that people need to have tougher skin, or anything like that, but that this school district, like other school districts definitely has actual bullying in their schools every day. Resources that could be spent on alleviating those problems are being spent on this, which is conflicting. It's sad, because you'd rather see these resources be used on bigger bullying issues, but I am glad that the administration is at least taking each issue seriously, no matter how ridiculous the claim seems.
I can't believe the parent filed the complaint, but I applaud the school district for taking the complaint seriously. I just hope they make the right call on the issue.