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It would be a total Buzz move to stay as much as it would be to go

Another unpopular opinion alert. If Buzz is not gone, I'll be hard pressed to ever feel the same way about him again as I did before all this stuff started. It colored, not ruined but colored, my enjoyment of the Sweet 16 run, and has now made for a pretty depressing few days since our loss. Yes, I still wish he was happy being a Hokie, but he could have ended all of the angst with a bit of candor and he's not done so, so like the man below says, let's just get this crap over with so we can all move on to bitching about Fu's lack of transparency and who the hell is gonna be our next quarterback.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

I wouldn't say an unpopular opinion. I feel the same way.

If/when Buzz goes to aTm, I honestly wont' give him much thought after the start of the season short of us actually playing them. Obviously a lot of rumors so I won't judge a guy on what some unnamed source has to say, but I think there are some things he could have done to handle this better, especially during the tournament.

People are allowed to pursue their career and make money for being good at their craft in any way possible short of doing shady things IMO. I hope he and his family do great, I just won't spend any of my limited time ever thinking about him after he leaves. If he stays, I am with you will not view him the same though

Just curious - what would you have him do?

I only see three choices:
He refutes the reports, which makes him look like an asshole for lying when he does leave.
He confirms the reports, which makes him look like an asshole for "quiting on the team before the season ended."
He make no comment (which is what he did).

We'd have him stay.

Anything short of that makes him our past, not our future.

Not that it really makes that much difference, but the fact that it threw shade on our Sweet Sixteen appearance does color the whole thing. And now looking at everything in context makes it look like it was in the works for a long time.

The leaks, rumor, speculation and innuendo is what threw shade on our S16 run. I have to assume Buzz had no control of that.

I agree with that.

But it does seem a little as if Texas A&M had a pretty good idea they were getting Buzz. With their "First, Second, and Third choice", the way they fired their coach, and some of the information being leaked out that it was a done deal.

Which makes it possible that it may have been, in principle, a done deal.

It wasn't so much fun for the fans the way this played out, but maybe it's ultimately for the best, in that Whit had some time to work his magic.

It just seems like this whole affair was decided some time ago. I appreciate Buzz for how this season went, but I can't imagine I will mourn the loss if his heart was already gone before the season started, as things seem to suggest.

No ill will towards him, but at this point he might as well just be gone because I think a lot of us have already accepted that on our end. If he stays, it will still seem like we are the silver medal. And if aTm screws him with their donors wanting someone else, then that sucks for Buzz

Yeah. I'm at the- thanks Buzz, bye Buzz...Buzz who? stage - sort of. Man, he was a damn fine coach and I hate to lose him. But, as they say, there's a reason the windshield is so much bigger than the rear view mirror. The king is dead! (or ?) Long live the king. Starting to build up anticipation for who's coming in.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

This is where I'm at with it more and more as well. Before today it was too painful for me to really comment on at all, but if we're gonna move on, let's move on. Keep the upward trajectory going.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I will give Buzz a pass for that solely based on the fact that I thought the sweet sixteen game showed maximum effort and preparation from both players and coaches. There is no good way to handle the departure.

The first rule of Fight Club is we don't talk about turkey leg votes

Except maybe to do it quickly.

Though I do hope he jacks Texas A&M for a few more million in the process.

Just be done with it so we can move on.

All of this being dealt with this publicly through Texas A&M leaks is appalling. I'm so sick of this process I just want it over so we can move on.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

FWIW I've seen on some of the A&M boards they've been accusing us of being the leaky party based on the fact that we already know he's leaving and it's delaying our finalizing/naming his replacement. No #sauces so idk if it's true, but it would certainly make sense.

How would us leaking the information be to our benefit? I'm not asking you, but these geniuses on the aTm boards. The only thing that could possibly be holding things up is whatever they are doing (waiting for Beard, for example). It serves no purpose to VT to drag this out in any way

How would us leaking the information be to our benefit?

The only scenario I can think of:

We're leaking it so that Buzz doesn't drag his feet, and therefore we can get a jump on hiring the guy we really want.

Buzz dragging his feet doesn't prevent us from negotiating with and having an agreement with his replacement.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

it would be an agreement in principle.

it would also require that the agreement only takes place if Buzz in fact leaves. It does make it harder to truly negotiate and iron out a contract.

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The Beard piece I'm not sure on. Just relaying what I had read. Leaking that Buzz was going to aTm would have signaled that we had an opening so we could at least start back channeling with potential replacements (we probably were already doing this anyway). I don't think it's anything as petty as trying to undermine their negotiations, just a sense of the more eyes are on this the faster it will hopefully get done...but realistically I have no clue

Leaking this out there does nothing to help us. Why would we be trying to push him out the door right after a S16 bid. Nah, that's silly talk from aTm.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

At least he didn't R-U-N-N-O-F-T...

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Everything I've heard is that A&M has never communicated with Whit informing him or asking permission to discuss a contract with them. He is under contract with VT and that sure seems like the appropriate protocol. Have to also wonder if Whit is doing that with his lead prospects to replace Buzz. Back channel is only ok for so long.

Well, they are A&M and they will do whatever they want to do and if you don't like it, write a bigger check than they can. Protocols and professional courtesies are for everyone else. I really hope this catches up to them some day.


"Rules of war? Would you like a lesson, sir, in the rules of war?"
- A&M's AD, probably

That's the problem in major college sports, money and winning take priority over the kids, and acting with class and decency. While VT has not always fielded the teams we would like on the gridiron and the hardwood, the leadership at VT has been as consistent as almost any in operating with class and decency, and in putting the student athletes first. That's what makes it easy to be proud to be a Hokie!

I'm nervous how this can hurt our recruiting class for 2019. It's the second best class of all time at Tech. With how the NCAA is handing out waivers it could go south real quick

After Tate Martell with Miami getting an exception because of a coaching change, I'd expect most of the current team to transfer out.

But that's ok, I'd also expect a decent amount of transferring in for whatever coach we do hire.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

I'm more worried from a simple numbers standpoint. The team had basically 9 players last year. They're losing 3 to graduation, and potentially losing 2 to the NBA draft (who knows what KJ will do). There are 3 recruits coming in as of right now. If two or three players leave via transfer you're talking about 6-7 scholarship players at the end of the spring...

Maybe there are some aTm players that wouldn't fit there anymore and we could pick them up?

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welcome back khadim sy /s

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Sy to Ecu #sauces

It's VT hoops... when was the last time we had 12 healthy scholarship players?

There aren't many schools who roll 12 deep at any time on any roster, which is why even the likes of Duke and UNC have walk-ons. And then there are the ones redshirting.

I think you meant how often do we have 8 contributing healthy scholarship players

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Like Alum said, most schools have an 8-player rotation. Teams like Belmont or Florida State who rotate 10-11 players are an exception. UVA uses primarily 8 players and they're in the Final Four.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

We seem to be stuck on 5-6.

If we have 7, it's like some kind of gift or something. We start high-fiving each other and having a knowing smile.

/s, but not /s

We actually have 4 incoming freshmen signed for 2019

Harris (6-3 G)
Gordon (6-2 G)
Gultekin (6-7 SF)
Miller (6-6 PF)

projected 2019 roster is 5 G and 5 F. Figure 3-4 contributors from each group.
1. Bede 6-1 G JR
2. Harris 6-3 G FR
3. Wilkins 6-3 G SO
4. Gordon 6-2 G FR
5. Kabongo 6-4 G SO
6. Blackshear 6-10 F GR
7. Nolley 6-7 F SO
8. Horne 6-6 F JR
9. Miller 6-7 F FR
10. Gultekin 6-7 F FR

(all bets are off once Buzz announces his departure)

Ten scholarship players is about what we've been rolling with each year.

I think our recruiting can only get better. Buzz is an outstanding coach, but his recruiting (based on his must get/priority guys) has dropped each year. I believe mostly because of staff changes (the replacement coaches are great X and O guys, but mediocre recruiters). The guys we have committed are okay, but not top half ACC caliber (think they all rate in the very bottom of the ACC).

If Buzz leaves, maybe some leave and/or we pick up better options (transfers or JUCOs).

If he stays, hopefully it will solidify his position and he will go after some JUCOs (transfers seem less likely). Or even change up his staff a little to improve recruiting/evaluation.

We put the K in Kwality

Maybe the new guy will be able to recruit height.

We're a football school. It's all going to work out.

JP

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Is there gonna be a big freaky moon descending on Blacksburg?

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

That's not what my sauces are saying....just kidding. I appreciate Buzz and everything he has done. Last years rumors of leaving and now it finally happening has grown tiresome. If Buzz did stay for some unknown reason we'll be going through this again next year. I'm ready to see who Whit brings in that's ready to be a Hokie.

Jeff Goodman

Pop the champagne boys, looks like Buzz is staying home!

My sauce told me

Let's Go

HOKIES

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

Believe it or not I think this may actually be working in our favor, let's see how it plays out, look what else is Thursday night guys ;)

Go for it

Hug a Newsman Day, National Cordon Bleu Day, Tell a Lie Day, World Rat Day??

Vroom Vroom

World Rat Day

Confirmed... we are hiring Coach K!

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

NIT Final is Thursday night

Go for it

So it's one of Gregg Marshall, Shaka Smart, Jamie Dixon, or Casey Alexander, eh?

Honestly, I'd be happy with any one of those names, though I know a bunch of people here are down on Shaka.

I think Shaka can still be a really good coach, I just think his style sets up better in the east coast DMV area, and then the not winning at Texas part doesn't scare people as much as it could in other situations because they see what Barnes is doing at Tennessee after a rocky end at Texas

Go for it

It doesn't matter how you cut it, Shaka is not a good coach. He has consistently had talented teams, yet has grossly underperformed (minus catching lightning it a bottle at VCU).

Even his teams at VCU were far superior in talent when compared to other teams in conference, yet he never won a conference title.

A HUGE no from me on Shaka.

Is it basketball season yet?

I agree. He lands impressive recruiting classes only to win enough to get in the tournament, or misses it altogether. Great recruiter for Texas, poor execution and coaching with the talent.

Caps v. Canadiens? Ovi is retiring after this season to coach our basketball team in the new sport of iceketball?

Funny story: Ovi lost his tooth playing basketball.

Hokies United l Ut Prosim

I'll say this guys, we've got a very good shot with this biggest realistic name on our list and no I don't mean Jay Wright, that's not realistic in my opinion, in fact my source said he didn't even entertain an offer from Tech

Go for it

I'm very curious here, because who you may consider as the biggest realistic name may not align with a lot of other folks biggest realistic name.

Your vague game is on point.

I agree that's too vague to provide any actual value or meaning- especially since I don't see how a name alone that has already been mentioned would reveal a source- but the only coach that statement seemingly makes sense for would be Gregg Marshall.

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Hi there, "Joe".

Looks like you may be new here.

Can you please read the Community Guidelines before posting?

Provide a clear, sensible and descriptive title for your post. "Tyrod Taylor..." is not a clear descriptive title. "Tyrod Taylor to Play Entire Preseason Game" is.

If this happens again, I'll have to alert a moderator.

Hokies United l Ut Prosim

Leg

/Dusts off -1,000,000 downvote button.

WHERE IS VTGUITARMAN WHEN YOU NEED HIM!?

Hokies United l Ut Prosim

At a conference in Orlando.

With my finger hovering over the shiny new -100,000,000 vote button that Joe gave me :)

So it's you that's trying to get KBJ to transfer!

My 2019 Season Challenge: only comment with Star Wars memes.

If you see these characters, they represent specific people (as of Oct. 2):

Palpatine (Fuente) || Vader (Hooker) || Kylo Ren (QP4) || Lando (Deablo)

As I told joe
You won't coward

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

At a conference in Orlando.

If you happen to find my dignity outside of a club named Celine's, could you please pick it up and send to Virginia? I lost it there on Saturday night post wedding.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

You won't coward

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Don't mind me, just rubbernecking

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Provide a clear, sensible and descriptive title for your post. "Tyrod Taylor..." is not a clear descriptive title. "Tyrod Taylor to Play Entire Preseason Game" is.

Shouldn't we also have a guideline saying that you can't end a sentence with a preposition?

804

I'm curious, when did "is" become a preposition?

I bet it had something to do with Bill Clinton...

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preposition or proposition?

By all accounts, he was pretty good with the propositions.

ALL OTHER COACHES ALERT:

this is how you don't do this

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

All I can say is I hope we play aTm soon, maybe in next years tourney, because it is ON!!!

What a wild thing that would be.

Oh good, yet another thread on this topic /s

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I don't mind a new thread. Was getting tired of scrolling through 100s of comments looking for any new and/or interesting info. Now we have this new thread without all that scrolling...for the next 12 hours when its filled up with random convos about Avengers. Fuente's recruiting, or if Dabo would ever leave Clemson

Hence the /s

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Steven or Gregg , Who you Got ?? I don't think Mick is playing..

Jack R.

Im thinking Gregg. Maybe part of the hold up is the fact he is still coaching in the NIT until Thursday at the latest.

For the record I think the best coach of the bunch is Dixon he was a phenomenal coach at Pitt and has done pretty decent so far with a horrible TCU program , where I don't think this would be a huge splash I think it would be a tremendous hire, however this is not the name I have heard, the name I've been hearing is Gregg Marshall, however like I said earlier at this point it's not a done deal or anything of that nature just from what I'm hearing were in a really good spot. I think we should be looking at Marshall, Dixon, or Shaka those are the 3 names I think would be the best fits for VT

Go for it

the name I've been hearing is Gregg Marshall, however like I said earlier at this point it's not a done deal or anything of that nature just from what I'm hearing were in a really good spot

Oh?

Time to break out the Marshpillow

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Give me Jamie Dixon. Don't want Lynn Marshall associated with VT.

VT '10 #AllMaroonEverything

Why would his wife be a dealbreaker?

I don't see the problem.

All I see is a passionate, supportive spouse. She can be out 6th man anyday.

Vroom Vroom

Can someone summarize what that link points to? I'm out of the country for work and I can't access that site.

She was escorted out of a Wichita St NCAA Tournament game for cursing at the refs. Not that big a deal if you ask me, maybe not the best look from your coach's wife, but not a deal breaker IMO

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Yeah, agreed. I can deal with a fiery coach's family as long as it leads to this:

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Thanks for the assist! Leg!

Buzz will be gone, so we can all resume cussin'.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

I didn't know any of this prior, just googled her name and it was one of the top things. I'm assuming this is what was being referred to, but idk for sure.

If gif form

Let's Go

HOKIES

If that's a dealbreaker, I hate to think what you consider the atmosphere of Lane Stadium to be

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Yeah smashing beers and yelling at refs, she'll fit in okay. Also definitely denotes the end of the "Quit Cussin'" era.

(add if applicable) /s

"If Fu goes to 2 acc champ games in 4 years, I will never criticize him again." - dcwilson

Hell, she would fit in just fine as the ringleader of the Cassell Guard

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

New motto options: "Start Cussin", or "Cuss LOUDER"

Turning the dial from "Quit Cussin" to "FULL MARYLAND"

I don't particularly care about that. The people who made a big deal out of that and blew it up to a national story are the UK media folks.

And not the good ones, like Kyle Tucker, but the blowhards like KSR. The majority of Kentucky basketball coverage is unbearable.

He is now the only coaching candidate I will accept

Not sure how any of that makes her a "foodie", but certainly doesn't disqualify her husband if he's Whit's choice.

It was a joke response to why she would be a dealbreaker...I tried

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

C'mon man. This is the SERIOUS speculation and rumors thread. /s

Leg, though, for the Mr. Bean gif.

If she is a foodie, she is going to hate Blacksburg.

Watch the video. She'll fit in fine in Blacksburg.

Pshh. Cabo and the Coop are amazing

Cabo was and always will be my favorite in Blacksburg. Everything else was meh. Great bar food and drink food, but not any great food. Haven't lived in Blacksburg since 2014. The Coop must be new. Never had it.

Very new. Went in beside Moes. We eat there all the time. Great for young professionals

Why would you say she has bad taste in Restaurants? Have you eaten at her favorites? I grew up in Wichita, and can attest they have a pretty good food scene. Many of the best ones are holes-in-the-wall.

Mrs. K gets away with it. Don't think she gets drunk at games, but I've heard she has a dirtier mouth than K himself.

From my conversations with ACC referees...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

he curses like a sailor. There's a reason there isn't a mic anywhere near him during games.

But he was much worse back in the day. Old age has toned him down a bit, which is saying something

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

No problem with it at all. Love the passion. Some people get carried away occasionally.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

I was hoping you were going to say Gregg

The last thing we need to do is feel that we're above Gregg Marshall now all of the sudden because of this one instance, that's insane, sure this is questionable behavior but it's not a reoccurring problem or something of that nature, we have one program sweet sixteen and it occurred this season , Marshall has accomplished more than that at Wichita State, and there is no doubt Marshall's recruiting would only improve with a move to the ACC. If he's not a homerun hire for us I don't know what would be. I would be thrilled

Go for it

I don't think anyone thinks it is an issue. Just the one poster above. Students and coaches (Cronin, Fran, etc.) say much worse and it was a one time sensationalized article.

Yelling at refs is one thing. But when you're the coach's wife and you're causing a scene by heckling the opposing teams players, yelling at fans, and screaming at the opposing coach, well that's another thing. I've anecdotally heard from Missouri Valley Conference fans that her acting like this was not surprising.

That said, I think Gregg Marshall is a great coach that puts successful teams out on the floor. If he is what we can get, great. I just would prefer Jamie Dixon at this point.

VT '10 #AllMaroonEverything

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Oh, yeah, she'll fit in just fine.

While I would generally agree with this, if said coach's wife were to heckle Duke players, yell at Duke fans, and scream at Coach K she would quickly endear herself to me at the very least.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

I agree with the wanting Dixon part as I stated previously but mine is for different reasons I feel like its a 1A, 1B situation with Dixon and Marshall , I would be thrilled with either, but I just feel Dixon has been a little underrated so to say I think people forget just how good he was at Pitt in a loaded Big East, and already has the proven success in a big time conference , with that said Marshall would do just fine at Tech and could have us on a similar trajectory that we've been on under buzz but a higher ceiling

Go for it

Reason why I would choose Marshall over Dixon is that it has to be a little easier to recruit for Pitt than VT. And when Pitt moved into the ACC, things kinda tailed a little bit because he wasn't able to adapt quickly to the new league.

I think he would be an excellent backup, but I'll go for the guy who was able to create success out of nothing at Winthrop and Wichita St just a little higher and think he'll have a higher ceiling. Definitely a 1a/1b, though.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Gregg Marshall's career head coaching resume

Winthrop 1998-2007
Wichita St 2008-Present

1 Final Four (2013)
2 Sweet 16s
3 Rounds of 32
14 NCAA Tournament Appearances

2014 Naismith National Coach of the Year
9x Conference Tournament Champion
11x Conference Regular Season champion

Coached Wichita St to the #2 team in the country finishing the 2014 season 31-0 and earned a #1 seed in the MidWest Regional that year. (His teams represent 7 of the 15 Wichita St teams to ever reach the NCAA Tournament, with only 1 appearance in 2006 between his 2012 team and the run that finished in 1988)

Coached Winthrop to the #11 seed in the 2007 NCAA Tournament where they became the first Big South team to win a game. (His teams represent the first 7 of the 10 Winthrop teams to ever make the NCAA Tournament, and at least 1 after was with his players)

This guy absolutely crushes it as a coach, and he would be a tremendous hire for VT. He's far and away my #1 choice and we'd be lucky to get him, regardless of the way his family behaves during games.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Agreed, he has a ridiculous strong resume. His 2014 team ended 35-1...he's 308-112 all time, I think he's more than qualified to coach.

(add if applicable) /s

"If Fu goes to 2 acc champ games in 4 years, I will never criticize him again." - dcwilson

Why does everyone think Marshall will leave Wichita State for Virginia Tech? I say this because he's had opportunities with programs with better histories and has not come close to taking those jobs. It could be a possibility, but I just don't see it.

He went to and played basketball for Cave Spring in Roanoke before going to Randolph Macon. He'd be able to coach in the top collegiate basketball conference in the country while being employed by the major school of his hometown. If we're willing to break the bank for him, you could make him a very strong offer that would be tough to pass up.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

He's had that opportunity to coach near home and in the ACC and he's said no. That's why I'm not going to get my hopes up that his time is different.

Shout Out to Cave Spring Alum! You have sold me on Gregg Marshall.

β€œTHE CUP IS GOING NOWHERE MIKEY!!! THEY DID IT SOMEHOW!!”

What year did you graduate? 2005 for me

2003. You probably know my sister then, she graduated in 05.

β€œTHE CUP IS GOING NOWHERE MIKEY!!! THEY DID IT SOMEHOW!!”

Just stalked your TKP profile and saw your Twitter. We rode the same bus in elementary school. Small world!

Cave Spring here.

Overheard as Duke assistant coaches took elevator down from press box: β€œGuys, they stopped the run with a three-man front.” - David Teel Tweet 2018

Getting to coach in the ACC. He graduated from Cave Spring high school in Roanoke, Randolph-Macon, and Richmond. All that combined with being able to match or slightly bump his pay over what he's getting now.

Whether or not all that will be enough is another matter, but those are our main selling points.

Edit: What Alum said.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Neither do I. NIT, plus this WOJO

I guess I would counter and ask why a great basketball coach would stay at Wichita State. What can really be accomplished at Wichita State? I know they have actually made the Final Four (impressive), but that just means Marshall is the best basketball coach in America that the average sports fan doesn't know exists.

I'm sure that's why Buzz left Marquette. The Big East is a dying conference, but by turning VT into an above average ACC program, Buzz has become a national name who can practically name his next job. I don't even know what conference Wichita State is in.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Ding ding ding ☝🏼

Go for it

Based on all of your comments on here, if our next coach is not Marshall or Wojo, your gonna cause a whole lotta disappointment

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I wouldn't be disappointed, I would be 100% shocked if our next coach isn't one of these 2 men

Go for it

100% shocked

So, Gregg Marshall, then. Got it.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

But is he 800%?

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

And have a hard time being taken seriously with #sauces again.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I don't even know what conference Wichita State is in.

American Athletic Conference. They joined last year after I believe being in the Ohio Valley Conference

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Close, it was the Missouri Valley Conference.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

And all the Koch in the world isn't going to make anyone care about an AAC team (I'm a Houston native and long time U of H fan, and I'd love to see them in the Big 12).

Any great college coach is going to want to coach in a P5 league.

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Why would he stay at Wichita? Google him up and read a bit. He is a big fish in a small pond, a God around town. Private jet, plenty of money, beloved by almost everyone there, it sounds like. He may well be ready for a coaching challenge, but he has there what I wish Buzz had been looking for at VT, a supportive administration, a town that reveres him, and tons of geld in a low cost of living environment.
Since Thursday has now been confirmed(?) by CBS, hopefully we'll know who we gonna love next the same day.

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With the drama surrounding Chris Clarke, and the Ty Outlaw travesty, I don't think we are in a position to act all high an mighty over some loudmouth drunken wife.

I will take the coach. We can kick her out of Cassell if she gets too rowdy.

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Or give her awards. It's a style thing.

You think a couple of potentially bogus possession charges is drama and a travesty that would taint an entire program? You really wouldn't have liked the FB team in the mid-late 90's.

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No, I don't really think its high drama. I love this team. Outlaw was wrongly accused.
I love Chris Clarke....I never said anything about tainting the program. When I said "Travesty", I meant the way the cops handled it...not the Hokies, Ty, or Buzz.

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I like rowdy. I hope she brings it every game hahah.

Thank U, Next.

Yeah, I think I've reached the "acceptance" phase.

Didn't take as long as I thought it would.

Well, Wojo look at that.

Wojo talkin' bout, Willis? OK, yeah we could have some fun with that.

Gregg would be the perfect way to heal up if Buzz leaves us with a broken heart. Having a wife that will call out the shitty officiating is just a bonus.

Marshall, IMO, would be a slam dunk A+ hire if Whit can get it done. A former national COY, ridiculous win percentage, impressive NCAA resume, and local ties. Considering his longevity at Wichita St, if he comes here and finds success I could see him being here for the long haul. Would be the absolute best possible scenario and would be very exciting for the future of VT basketball.

Wojo would be a very, very solid hire if we can't get Marshall, andwould give it a solid B+. A great deal of potential as a young up and comer type. Would definitely worry that if successful he would be quick to jump to Duke when that job opens up. Also not a very good tournament resume to date. Again would be very solid, but Marshall should be the top pick.

If/when Buzz leaves, I think the only hire that would make me go 'fckn'a, Whit did it again' is if he got Brad Stevens to bail on the NBA ranks. Celtics fans are getting anxious, the team might have to pick between Stevens and Kyrie this offseason. I don't get the impression that Stevens likes the NBA egos, his family doesn't seem to have much connection to the city, and his contract is up this season without an extension in place. He is making less coaching the Celtics than these reports have Buzz making at aTm. I won't be surprised to see him back in the college ranks soon, but I would be shocked if its here.

Speaking on shock*, I am a skeptic on Gregg Marshall ever leaving Wichita. Every year we hear about Marshall having offers to leave for big-time programs, but he never does. I don't know what VT has to offer that every school that came calling in the last 5 years didn't.

Woj could come here and audition to be the next Duke coach, but there are plenty of other guys doing the same thing. Capel (Pitt), Bob Hurley (UConn), Dawkins (UCF), Amaker (Harvard), Collins, (Northwestern) and Woj.

Ultimately, i hate even the stench of that school, I really don't want any Duke alum heading up a VT team.

I would flip my lid if he pulled that off. Brad is one of the best coaches out there.

Zzzz wake me up when this is over.

All signs are pointing to it being down to Marshall and Wojo at this point, looks like Dixon may not want to come back to the ACC after all. Let's keep our fingers crossed 🀞🏼. I think either would be a good hire but Marshall is a clear step above and I think Whit knows this too and is prioritizing that.

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I haven't seen a single sign pointing to Marshall. He's far more linked to Arkansas. I'd suggest not getting your hopes up.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Yeah... I don't really understand how the signs would suddenly be pointing to Marshall when he was in the middle of coaching a NIT game.

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It's not that there was a sudden shift on Marshall's part, more or less VT has been weeding through potential candidates and these are the last 2 left according to my source, It's Marshall option 1, Wojo as the backup plan.

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He's turned down SEC opportunities before, I texted my source about this he said he would be absolutely shocked if Marshall went to Arkansas. Said biggest things appealing to Marshall are ACC play and what Marshall believes would be an immediate ability to capitalize and keep the momentum rolling that buzz built with an easier selling point in recruiting

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Bring IT On !! I like both and I sure Love the wife of Marshall , She would fit right in at any event !! Maybe a Hokie Bird Suit for her , that way she could be close to the Action..

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Replace that fan with Ted Valentine or Jamie Luckie, and yes, I'm sure.

Also taking a look at Wichita State's roster their best player is a senior this year, that always seems to make it a little easier for a coach to move on. Watching this game a whole lot of their offense is running directly through Mcduffie creating

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The Koch brothers are the big contributors their. If we can poach him it would be a coup. He's already making 3.5 mil. Koch bros won't sneeze at upping that if they want to keep him. We can't go much higher. So our only draw is home and acc.....

....and getting away from the Koch brothers.

Oil barons at every god damn turn.

Those pesky Koch Brothers do have money to sway Marshall to stay. But do they have otters in a duck pond? NOPE.

Advantage VT

...That's what Maryland does.

I don't give a damn what the fans think cause, quite frankly, I know what the fans want better than they do.

Wait Otter Sandman can ball?

The answer has been in front of us this whole time?

Get enough otters and we won't have many ducks in the duck pond. Good trade, though.

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we are painfully aware of how easy it is for a coach to move on when his favorite seniors graduate. T_T

If Option 1 is Gregg Marshall and our back up plan is Wojo,then I think we will be in good shape either way. Unfortunately, these two are now my expectation, so if we fall to a lower option on the list I will be disappointed by our basketball program for the 3rd time in the last few days.

From what I'm hearing you won't be disappointed

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But what if Wojo is disappointing? Will I be disappointed then?

I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about the Wojo hire.

To add, lets assume he does a great job at VT over the next 5-10 years... Does Puke poach him at that point when K retires?

Is it basketball season yet?

I think he would more than likely leave for Duke when K retires if he had success with us, but I think that's a good problem for us to have if Duke wants him in the future then it shouldn't be hard for us to find another replacement of the same caliber at that point, because I gotta believe for Duke to be interested in him he would have to have several trips to either the elite 8 or final four with sweet sixteens every 2-3 years max, Duke is not gonna be patient so if they want him that means he was firing on all cylinders here, I do agree with the sentiment that it would suck to lose another coach 5-10 years from now; however look at it this way, Buzz is on the way out but aren't you glad we hired him? It would be that sort of a positive impact on our program or even greater for Duke to want him.

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That's a big paragraph for Woj. Are we still feeling good about Marshall? How's the 5-10 year plan with him?

247 says Wojo. 3.5mil a year.

If we come out of this paying Wojo half a mil more than we were paying Buzz, I'm not going to feel very good about it. Top 15 money for a guy nobody would list as a top 15 coach.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Still feeling really good on Marshall, no indications that anything has changed on that end for him so far, and as far as the 5-10 year plan on him, he's much more likely to stay put if he comes and I think only a traditional basketball blue blood would be able to pull him away if he does end up here.

Go for it

To add, lets assume he does a great job at VT over the next 5-10 years... Does Puke poach him at that point when K retires?

Who cares? If he does well enough at VT that Duke wants him, then he's probably made a few sweet 16's. Seeing as we've only been to one in the modern era of college basketball, I'd call that a successful hire, regardless of how long he spends here.

This idea that we to find the 'Frank Beamer' of our basketball team is ridiculous. We make the best hire available, and give him as much support as possible. Hopefully that's enough to keep him around. If he doesn't want to stay, then we repeat the process, and find another 'best available hire'.

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I'd give this all my legs if I could. Coach K has a big tree at this point. In the event we land Wojo and they eventually want to poach him, then that means VT is doing damn great at that time because there will be a lot of Duke disciples to pick from.

Rothstein just tweeted:
Sources: Texas A&M is expected to hold a Thursday Press Conference to introduce Virginia Tech's Buzz Williams as its next head basketball coach. Williams is tentatively scheduled to meet with the Aggies' players on Wednesday night.

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It's going to be a culture shock for current AM players. While buzz is clearly an excellent basketball coach his methods are far from ordinary.

Not a plug and play scenario imo.

Well he is going to have at least players on his current roster to show them the way. Bede and Blackshear.

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Why would Blackshear transfer instead of going pro.

Always choose joy.

For all the talk of KBJ going pro I haven't seen him on a single mock draft.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Chance of NBA if he comes back as an All-American?

Because the way it's set up NBA draft players can still go through draft process and still play if they don't like what they get, I think that will be the case here.

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why would bede sit out a year? blackshear can at least play right away, if he doesn't go get 6 figures in europe

Because he came to play with Buzz.

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Well that isn't going to be enough considering they will never play together again if they both leave.

No but for Buzz building his culture will be a big boost having them both in his meetings, locker room and bench.

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I guess we will just have to disagree then lol. Moving halfway across the country even further from home with no friends isn't always a huge morale booster. "Hey guys I was with Buzz, break your click up and let me be the leader since I played at VT"

Let me know how that plays out.

Bede isn't guaranteed to leave, Blackshear looks all but gone, hope I'm wrong

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What do you base the comment "Blackshear looks all but gone" on?
This is your opinion, or there is something to it?

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Just don't see him coming back with 1 year to play with a new coach and potentially a whole new system, nothing sauces on this, just my gut feeling

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See I try to be an optimist, a new coach might be able to tweak elevate his game and help him become even more well rounded.

Exactly. That was the purpose of Seth Allen and Leday even though they didn't know Buzz from before. He saw two guys that he thought would be perfect upperclassman to help build his culture.

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Buzz doesn't list the Hokiesports basketball website link in his twitter bio anymore it's now to his personal website.

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I keep popping over to football news hoping to see some breaking news about an interested 4 star. But then quickly retreat back to this shitshow to avoid the nothingness over there. I'm enjoying having something to distract my slow erosion of expectations on the FB side. Seems to me we're slowly slipping away into the abyss of an irrelevant football program, well maybe not slowly. Meanwhile all this hype around basketball and the next coach is exciting. Maybe we can be a basketball school after all!

Ya know sometimes if f'ing hard to be a Hokie. But for the 1/1000 chance we ever win a natty in a rev gen sport it will all be worth it...right?

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If we get some fans to show up at the wrestling matches it could become a rev gen sport!!! Those onesies can't be too expensive. /s

How bout some happy thoughts!

1) Buzz does his thing on Wed/Thurs.
2) we have press conference on Friday that announces Marshall or Wojo!
3) existing players and recruits get a chance to have some new excitement/optimism and many decide to stay!
4) WE BECOME A PLACE FOR MORE RECRUITS IN THE ACC THAT DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A COACH LEAVING EVERY YEAR!
5) we fill out a roster that the new coach can use to run his system. (Maybe even an extra big man or two for the future!)
6) Next year has a lot more opportunity/possibility than we are feeling right now!!

Yeah... I know! But it's my dream!

If we're going for dream scenarios can we at least throw in a final four instead of stopping at "we get a couple big men and feel kinda optimistic"?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

2) we have press conference on Friday that announces Marshall or Wojo!

Two things:
1) Why wait until Friday? Why not announce it at the same time to steal ATM's thunder?
2) Wichita State lost tonight in the NIT, so game on for Marshall.

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Always thought bud foster was the one you marry, Fuente was the one you fuck, and buzz was the one you had to kill.

After this year of watching bud wake board every chance I got , I'm starting to feel like bud was the one you fuck, Fuente is the one you kill and Wojo is the one you marry.

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I'm not interested in marrying, killing, or f#*king any of them....weird.

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Yeah, that's normally something you compare people of the opposite sex with. You've proven that it doesn't work for male coaches. At least not for a board composed of mostly males.

Yeah...it just got weird in this room. lol

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Are there any actual tampering rules that we can use against aTm as they have not technically asked for permission to talk to Buzz according to reports?

Doubt it. Whit said himself in an interview, that notifying the current school is just more of a courtesy than expected procedure.

Only if it's in his contract.

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At this point, why does it matter? He's gone because he wants to be in Texas. We're getting a new coach that wants to be in Blacksburg. Time to look forward and make Cassell continue to ROCK!!!!

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How much has this Buzz thing been a distraction? We are 3 days into April and I don't see the FB recruiting post. The spring game is in 2 weeks and not much talk going on there either...

I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I couldn't care less about spring football. Last season exhausted me and I'm just enjoying not worrying about football till Labor Day weekend.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

We are coming off a 6-7 season and Fuente doesn't release any info so I completely agree with you.

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Distraction? To the fans? I mean, I don't know about you, I doubt any of us are suiting up for the spring game to be on the field and taking snaps (no photog jokes here...) And honestly, it's time we let the football team simmer, do their thing, and take care of business.

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I didn't say anything about us suiting up, however I did note that a new recruiting post and no new news about the spring game has hit TKP. So yeah, a distraction to the fans.

Until they show me major positive change, football shmootball.

I mean, I'm still a Hokie fan of course. But there is a hard ceiling to my level of investment this year.

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Absolutely.

Breaking news Goodman, you were wrong. Wednesday is the new Thursday. Time to move on and worry about other stuff.

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I wonder if Whit's announcement pushed up the timeline a bit. And I also wonder if that was intentional, so that Whit could get his hire in sooner.

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