2019 Week 1 Camp Discussion

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King is really really good. Look out.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I need more than that, damn tease.

Is King the RB that had the leg injury last year? If so he is looking good!

that was Tahj Gary

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Looks good, but he needs some Hilgartfication on his legs...to be able to put up with the pounding in the ACC..he's going to have to get thicker in the lower body...maybe play him in a few games so he can get reps, but i would redshirt him this year..put some space between him and the rest of the upperclassmen as well..

running game pls

Would be great if there was any contrast in this footage. When we gonna hire somebody to color grade

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I think King will factor in this season. Next offseason the goal will be to get him to 200-205 maybe, then he will be ready to rock as the feature guy.

Even though it was plaid...i gave it another upvote..

I downvoted it just to keep his ego in check.

They say once you go plaid......nevermind.

since my buddy Michael provided a rave review.

This is a lie, everyone knows Joe doesn't have buddies.

Willis is the starter, yes or no? Fuente with coach speak? Or is someone legitimately better than Willis that he can't be named starter yet?

Fuente did this last year with JJ, so I'm not surprised, but with the lack of reps behind Willis, it's odd not to just name him.......

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Waiting for open tryouts on campus to be over before naming a starter
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I think if Burnmeister's immediate eligibility is denied by the NCAA, then Fuente would go ahead and name Willis the starter.

However, since it's still possible for Burnmeister to play this year, which he was promised he'd get a chance to be QB1, and this is the first week that Fuente has seen him in pads, I would imagine at least another week or two before anything definite.

I think he waits regardless. Part of offseason motivation is knowing you are going to get your shot to be the guy come fall, if it was already decided one might not push themselves as much during the summer

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Yeah, I guess it's wait and see with Burmeister, but I'm not holding my breath for any favorable NCAA transfer rulings for us

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I've heard good things about Burmeister. #sauces say he's competing with Willis and pretty much has the backup spot locked down at the very least (pending eligibility). Which, of course, bothers me because it means that QP3 is not the second coming, yet.

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QP is raw as a passer, that is why he is not yet a "Tyrod" type. If he starts 2 years at QB, we should all be fine with that.

Thank God someone else finally said this. QP got hyped up after his recruiting picked up and his time spent on Elite 11, but i don't think this staff ever saw him being a 4 year starter. Let him develop and learn the game and then take over his junior and senior year.

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I think the past few years of "instant impact" stars at QB has really skewed the reality of what is and will continue to be the norm for college QB play, which is developing for a few years before taking the reins. Tua, Trevor, and even Jalen Hurts and Jake Fromm to a lesser degree, have skewed this instant-impact QB starter perception.

And those guys had stacked teams around them. You mention Jake Fromm as a freshman, the 2nd best freshman passer was Josh Jackson. So those guys are few and far between too.

Which, of course, bothers me because it means that QP3 is not the second coming, yet.

Fuente said something super interesting about this at a meet & great outside of Atlanta - he basically said that QP hasn't gotten the reps that a lot of kids get in high school. QP played on a high school team that had only two coaches, and he didn't getting much/any specialized QB coaching until the second half of HS. While QP is physically gifted, pretty smart, and a fast learner, he's still had "a couple thousand less reps" than some of his peers (some of whom have had a QB coach since before high school, most of whom at least played on a high school team that had a dedicated QB coach). Fuente seemed confident that QP could be a great player, but stressed that it would take him longer to get there just because he's still catching up, so to speak, to his peers.

TLDR - We gotta be patient with QP.

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100% has to do with Burmeister. Wants to give him a fair shake in the event that he's cleared. QP and Hooker are getting better, but they're not close to Willis's level. If we got word today that his waiver was denied, I bet we'd hear very quickly that willis was anointed the starter.

Last night I looked up a few older articles to learn a little more about him. It sounds like he got blasted a lot by the Oregon media up there along with Ducks' fans after he got thrown into the fire and struggled.
There are several articles out there but this one goes through the circumstances that led to Taggart burning his RS and forcing his starting. Burmeister has taken his lumps and was probably humbled a little bit. I'm betting he is playing with one hell of a chip on his shoulder right now.

Burmeister Deserves An Apology

We talking a "Russell Wilson-esque: eff you I'll got light the world on fire somewhere else" sized chip? Cause I'd be cool with that

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So, basically, Burmeister is legit and will be a real contender to start next year if not this year??

While I have a limited window (I watched film of 2 of Burmeister's Oregon starts to prep for the FSU preview last year), I do not think he is a threat to Willis or Patterson down the road. He was proficient as a read option QB. In the passing game he was very limited (screens, quick throws, QB runs.) I was underwhelmed.

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Keep in mind that he was thrown into the fire as a true freshman

A true freshman...in Willie Taggart's "lethal simplicity" offense.

Lethal Simplicity

Lethal to whom is the question

Everyone on the offensive based on empirical evidence.

Do you think Burmeister is close to Willis at all or not really?

I don't.

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Fuente actually said just that. Something like: "I promised an open competition and I'm keeping my word".

As of now, yes. According to Laaser at a Hokie Club event down in NC earlier this week, Willis is clearly the guy right now. He's taking all the first reps and in turn throwing to all the top receivers.

Sounds like Hendon is taking reps second -- Laaser said that he's improved significantly and if it wasn't for an injury in the bowl game, he would've played a significant amount.

QP is taking reps 3rd with Burmeister and Knox filling in the rear.

I would fully expect Willis to be named the starter with QP getting goal-line packages and Hendon being the true back-up in case of injury.

I know I haven't been around as much here, so my apologies. My new job and move up to Nova has really limited my communication with my old friends down in the NRV and frankly, I don't have as much time to be as invested in the program as I used to. But here are some things I've heard:

1) the coaches have been really pleased with the newcomers at DT. Kendricks will play a lot this year. Wouldn't be surprised to see him finish the year as the #3 DT. Fuga and Pollard will both play some, but I'd expect them to stay under the 4 game limit. The staff is very excited about this group of freshmen. Crawford has assimilated well and will start next to Hewitt. They made a concerted effort for him to gain some good weight this summer and he seems to be carrying it well. Cunningham had a rough conditioning period but he seems to be getting over the hump. I bet he'll split the 4/5 DT reps with Kendricks.

2) Coverage from the corners will be significantly improved this year. I wasn't lying when I said after Watts' departure that there was a very good chance that he would've been the #4 corner on the depth chart, at best. Farley is the alpha right now and has shown marked improvements in his coverage skills. Improved physicality remains TBD until the pads go on. Waller is solid in coverage and is not afraid to stick his nose in there. Chatman has a higher ceiling and is more of a playmaker, but lacks consistency right now. Quillen is basically the same guy as always. Nadir could make some serious noise by the end of the year once he regains full trust in his knee. Webb surprisingly doesn't appear to have lost much in terms of movement, but keep in mind that we're only in shorts right now. I doubt we see much of him against BC, but I bet he gets a lot of burn against ODU and Furman in the hopes to have him ramped up by the time Duke comes to town. Overall, we'll see improvement here, with the potential for a big, big step up by the end of the year and beyond.

3) there's a good chance that bud's last year will be the first in which he provides us with a true linebacker rotation. Barno has surpassed expectations thus far and appears to be ready to play immediately. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we see Barno at backer and Dax at Mike on obvious passing downs, just to give us a little more range and speed at the position. Tisdale looks like a future star at the position.

4) Clease and Holston are the same players that we've seen in prior years. No marked improvement to speak of. Missing on Feaster really lowered the ceiling of this offense. King has been by far the most impressive from a playmaking standpoint, but he is skinny and will take some time to pick up the blocking scheme. Don't expect him to redshirt.

5) there is a fierce competition at RG, with multiple (and some somewhat surprising) names in the mix. This one probably won't be settled until the first official depth chart is issued, and even then I would expect the battle to go into the season. Vice has been experimenting with flipping Silas and CD. Lecitus is still mauling but needs to be more consistent in pass pro. Hoffman's appeal will be the deciding factor on whether this group is serviceable or well above average, he is that important. One thing that I was told is that there is a big time uptick in confidence from last year, which has resulted in some more physical play.

6) the receivers are the obvious strength of the team. Not much groundbreaking info here. They are deep and versatile. Expect Robinson to play a good amount.

7) coaches were not happy with Garbutt's inability to put weight on. Was a little bit in the doghouse to start camp. Sounds like the DE's aren't progressing as much as everyone had hoped. Probably still a year away from the level of play that we expect out of them.

8) J ham will be a huge help to the safeties. We'll see much better discipline out of that group this year. Hunter will play a lot. He's improving but still coming along slowly, and the staff is desperate to have him ready to go next year, as he's really the only option. JR Walker is the real deal, but he's behind Tyree Rogers. We'll see a few guys changing in and out at free, as they'll look to spell deablo whenever possible. Chamarri will be the guy at whip.

There's probably some stuff I'm missing, so feel free to ask me whatever and I'll answer what I can.

Great Recap...LA...have you heard anything on Wiles and his possible departure? I think this will be key to keeping those DEs with VT. Looks like those guys will need to play when they step on campus next year..

Regarding Garbutt, is it a situation like Melvin Keihn where he couldn't add anymore weight or is it an effort issue?

If the DEs continue to struggle, do you see Barno Moving to DE this year?

If the coverage is better in the secondary then that should increase the pressure from the DL...

I'm going to need to see this, but from what you're saying and what I've been reading, the OL and WR maybe neck and neck in the for the top position group. It will all come down to Hoffman's eligibility.

Not sure if anything's changed, but there hadn't been a decision on Wiles at the time of Bud's announcement. Personally I'd be very surprised if he didn't walk away with Bud.

For Garbutt, I'm not sure how seriously he takes the weight room. I know they had him on something like a 5,000 calorie diet.

I don't see Barno moving. Frankly I see him as being really useful to the team this year and next. Could even see him getting starter's snaps against teams that really like to spread it out. I usually don't like to speculate on this, but I could see some attrition there this offseason.

WR's are well ahead of basically every position group on the team. Don't see that changing, even if Hoffman's appeal goes through

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I always thought Proctor was more of a tweener and would have a harder time putting on weight. What's the word on his progress vs Garbutt's

I'm hoping Proctor can turn into a Jason Lallis/Jim Davis type. Not a lot of weight, but good at filling gaps with their speed as a result of not weighing as much. It's not impossible to be an effective DT in Bud and Wiles' system at sub-280, but they're few and far between. Proctor is a good athlete though.

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Thanks for the update LA, good to hear about the optimism around the DT's. Not good to hear there isn't marked improvement at DE, such a critical position for the rest of the defense.

I was bummed about Feaster but hopefully long term it gives King more reps and ready to go full time next year. Sounds like the O-Line is going to finally have a little more nasty in them than years past and exciting to see that translate to a better run game.

Will be interesting to see how the CB and LB rotations play out but sounds good that we are building depth at both positions, including Barno. I really like Ashby, Hollifield, and Tisdale in the short term and Artis/Tisdale/J. Hollifield down the road.

I had said Feaster could raise our win ceiling to 10 or 11 wins but still think we can comfortably get to 9 wins and am hoping we can pull an upset on Miami or ND.

The buzz on Kendricks has been consistent since he arrived. Sounds like a total dog, and the concerns about bad weight slowing him down are in the rearview mirror. Great to hear more confirmation of this.

Very excited about the level of competition at the linebacker spots. Barno and Tisdale coming along is very exciting, hopefully Tisdale doesn't get the portal bug and sticks around because I think he has a future starting if he sticks it out.

I'm very excited about the OL, obviously more excited if Hoffman gets his waiver, but the word of heavy competition along the line has been very exciting to hear. Sounds like that group is cohesive and competitive, pushing each other to be better.

Honestly not too surprised about the RB's. I think we know what we are getting from the returning guys at this point, and to to think there would be a huge uptick from them seemed a little naive. All the more reason to be confident that King will be a factor moving forward, even with his currently slight build.

Questions:

1. Is there anything to be excited about at DE? It's simply too critical a position to get as little pass rush as we had last season. Any reason to be hopeful, or are we going to be treading water at this position and will need to get creative to create pressure?

2. I've also heard that Chamarri is looking like the guy at Nickelwhip, what does that mean for Ladler? The future of FS after Deablo feels a bit up in the air. Do you think JR will stay and finish his career at Free?

I don't see Tisdale transferring. He'll get PT very soon.

DE's will be better than last year but still not great. Very curious to see how much burn Becton gets this season.

I think Ladler will get some time at whip against more spread teams and on obvious passing downs. He's more nickel while chamarri is more whip. Could also see him the top backup at free when he's not needed at nickel, and potentially even rover if Hunter isn't fully trusted yet. I don't think JR will play anywhere but free for the duration of his career

Any buzz surrounding Hunter so far? I really want to see him develop

he mentioned hunter in the post.. item #8...

"Hunter will play a lot. He's improving but still coming along slowly, and the staff is desperate to have him ready to go next year, as he's really the only option."

Very appreciative of the update LA NOVA, you are truly a Dude with a capital D.

Missing on Feaster really lowered the ceiling of this offense

gut punch there. Keshawn can't come along soon enough.

Hoffman's appeal will be the deciding factor on whether this group is serviceable or well above average, he is that important

infuriating that we're in this position at all, throw us a bone NCAA

Overall about in line with what I suspected but had no #sauces for. Good to hear that the defense should be somewhat improved.

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Yeah, this Hoffman deal just really pisses me off. Given the history of transfers at other institutions and what we know about the case this just seems like a no brainer. How in the hell it takes this long to analyze what is apparently a simple situation is baffling. It is a true indicator of the NCAA's incompetence and I don't know how in the hell it got this bad.

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Pretty random question: any word on if they will try and plug Beck into any ST return stuff? Or better yet, what's the returner situation looking like?

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Actually haven't heard anything about beck, but I certainly hope he gets in on KO returns. I liked what I saw from wheatley last year and I think they could be a dynamic duo

I heard he is on the KR team, and Robinson and Grim are PR guys.

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Awesome stuff as always LA! You mentioned it above, how Hooker and QP have improved but are still behind Willis. Does that mean that Willis has taken the next step with more consistent decision making? With the chance that the run game will not incrementally improve and the WRs being a position of strength, it seems to me that Willis just needs to make the right reads to have a big year. Thanks!

Getting better but he'll always be the gun slinger type. Just not in his nature to sit back and be a game manager, for better or for worse

*until he goes too far the other way and doesn't try to push the ball because he doesn't trust what he is seeing from the D; see the whole 4th Q vs UVA until the Keene throw

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There is a happy medium- Willis has to be aggressive, but he has to be better at reading a defense and making the right decision aggressively. Some of his decisions versus Miami rightly made the staff very nervous and it impacted their playcalling.

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7) coaches were not happy with Garbutt's inability to put weight on. Was a little bit in the doghouse to start camp. Sounds like the DE's aren't progressing as much as everyone had hoped. Probably still a year away from the level of play that we expect out of them.

Good. All the people in the roster weight thread that were trying to justify our DEs, Garbutt especially, losing weight were out of their mind

+1.

Also took heat in a prior thread for mentioning Kendricks would benefit from a RS, but would likely be forced into the 2 deep and be thrown into the fire early bc of our DT recruiting over the last 3-4 years.

One thing I want to add is that the improved mood in the locker room is no offseason bs. There was a lot of negativity last year, and that's essentially been completely eradicated. Everyone is truly on the same page for the first time in Fuente's tenure. We'll see if it actually translates to better play on the field, but it certainly can't hurt.

The almighty X-Factor...

This was going to be my question. Thanks for sharing all this.

Have you heard anything on Caleb Steward? He didn't look like a game breaker in the spring game, but he did look bigger than McLease and shiftier than Holston.

Big time doghouse. Had some sort of issue happen during conditioning. Not sure if he's even with the team right now

Neat! ...Not what I was hoping to hear. Thanks for the info though!

Caleb Steward...He didn't look like a game breaker in the spring game, but he did look bigger than McLease and shiftier than Holston.

Steward is one of those guys we recruited that worries me in regards to our assessments - especially at RB, where we need serious help - and exactly why the mid/low 3* running back jokes exist. He didn't look that impressive on film, his offer sheet was fairly weak (3-4 lower tier P5 offers), and given the other RBs we had on roster at the time we took his commitment (McLease, Holston, Wheatley, Beck), I'm not sure where what role he's fitting or where he's a differentiator from any of the others. I'm not going to write him off prior to him even suiting up, but we just have a lot of mediocre RBs on roster outside of (hopefully) King. All the more reason why the Brunson, Beasley, and Hampton commits are confusing and somewhat worrisome to me

He was pretty impressive in the spring game.

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This is huge too, I can't tell you how many times watching them last year they just looked soft, for lack of a better term. No way to measure it on the field but I think it'll make a difference

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This deserved to plaid.

I mentioned it after my interview with Hoffman, but he came across as an extremely mature young man, and at the very least, he can contribute that to the locker room, especially with a lot of young (but talented) OL.

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I usually work SAT 12-6, so you best believe I will have VT games on, TV station availability permitting, come football season.

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Question for you, I went there one time and they were kicked on something like half of their beers. Was that just a fluke or does the lower production volume cause that sometimes? Hope to see you there.

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The brewery's only been open 15ish months, and I know initially they had some hiccups. I've been there since FEB and we've never had fewer than 15 taps up, and usually have 18-20 depending on what special kegs we may be waiting to release on a certain day. For the past month we've been releasing limited edition (only 1 made) kegs on FRI so we'll keep a tap open for that for example. Today is a chocolate banana porter!

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Seems to me like they brew small quantities of many different styles, rather than focusing in on making sure they have a good supply of any particular beer in the cooler.

Based on what I tasted last fall, they had a lot of room for improvement, but I haven't been back to check in almost a year now, and there's almost always a quality curve with new breweries, especially the new trend of brew-bars who crank out a dozen styles right off the bat. New District similarly didn't make a good impression on me at first, but they managed to up their game over the course of 12mo and are decent now.

Port City is one brewery in the region that nailed it from the start and continues to kill it, but they also focused on only four core styles for almost their entire first year, and started off with a very experienced head brewer.

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Excellent post and insight.

Re garbutt: other sites have been saying he's the best DL on the team and is an beast. Thoughts?

Probably is the best DL on the team from a playmaking standpoint. Needs to be way more consistent and still lacks the strength to stand up against the run. Will be a good one one day though

Excellent update LA! Have to ask about my local kid, TJ Jackson... How's his progress?... I know he's put on weight, as far as the roster indicates. Thanks.

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He is one of the "somewhat surprising" names I referred to

4) Clease and Holston are the same players that we've seen in prior years. No marked improvement to speak of. Missing on Feaster really lowered the ceiling of this offense. King has been by far the most impressive from a playmaking standpoint, but he is skinny and will take some time to pick up the blocking scheme. Don't expect him to redshirt.

6) the receivers are the obvious strength of the team. Not much groundbreaking info here. They are deep and versatile. Expect Robinson to play a good amount.

Sooo we'll see a lot of WR sweeps this year?

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I'm going to try and piggy back on somethings here, I don't nearly as much as LA. but some info I got when I was up a couple weeks ago.

1. DL/DT - coaches are really really please with Hewitt in the off season, hes conditioned like crazy, turned his body fat into body muscle without losing weight, coaches are really high on and expecting a big year out of him. expect him to be a play maker up front. the DE position is going to be pray by committee right now. hope that each guy can come in and make some plays and get out before getting exposed. they just don't have enough time in the program or enough skill to be guys that play 20 snaps a game. think Tyrel Wilson and Seth Dooley on the ends. its not that the guys cant make plays, its just you are going to have to try and get a couple good plays on of what you have and get the next guy up and hope he does the same. they are a year away.

2. coverage/ DBS/ Safety - I know LA said expect to see ladler on the field vs spread teams as hes more of a nickel than a whip, and I wont argue or dispute what he knows or heard as I'm sure each coach or insider you talk to has a different view on how things are shaping up. But expect conner to play ALOT the coaches LOVE HIM. 1st hes huge for his position, he can make plays in the run game but more than that they were absolutely shocked at how well he could cover slot guys for his size, the love his versatility and that they don't have to make changes when they do go against spread teams. I heard a TON of praise about him when I was up last month.

kind of in the same breath the news on I heard on devin hunter is he is finally settling in. like LA said expect to see him play this year. hes made some strides and is getting better everyday. Hamilton told me that by the time he leaves VT he will be the guy that everyone thought he would be. That he in the past was dealing with a tremendous about of pressure from home and everyone and every where to step on campus and be "that dude" from day one and it really effected his growth mentally but he has figured it out and just started to be himself and not devin hunter the superstar recruit that the whole 757 and Virginia tech is counting on and now that hes taken some of that pressure of himself is just playing ball and listening and learning instead of trying to be Mr all VA.

3. LBS- not a lot of info from me here, but very quietly this maybe close to as strong a group as the WRs room expect rivers to play a lot of people have kinda written him off. he wasn't healthy at all last year but when he is is a play maker and hes been working hard in the weight room all off season. he may not make the "news of the week" with with guys like dax and barno stealing all the spotlight but he will be solid for us. same for artis. we have a legit rotation at LB like LA said and all these guys are good there is no drop off across the board.

4. RB again cant comment to much on expect I saw further down a question about Steward, hes a Jax kid I know him a little and hes got to find some new friends on campus and ill leave it at that. stays hanging with the wrong guys out there and keeps getting himself in the dog house after working his way out of it and into the mix a little. I Co sign everything everyone has heard about king. he wont redshirt. if we had got feaster he "may" have but he still would have played. hes the only dynamic playmaker we have in the backfield on the roster at the RB position. think some of what david Wilson did his freshman year (lucky for DMFW he has 2 future NFL players in front of him and JO) DW freshman year he had 60 attempts for 340 yards in 13 games but made some explosive plays. id expect about the same kind of production except kings wont come in garbage time like most of wilsons did that year. again like LA said kings going to have to pick up the blocking scheme to maximize his playing time and earn more reps.

locker room- LA hit is 100% on the head, you can only hope that it translates to the field. its one of those things when things are bad in the locker room bad on the field quickly follows but things being great in the locker room doesn't translate to being a better football player. its great to have but you are who you are at the end of the day as far as talent wise. one thing I do expect to see is EFFORT, EFFORT, EFFORT and guys playing for each other. you wont see guys taking plays off. we all know how quickly that can change is things go bad but I don't expect THIS team to fold like last years seemed too. it does have a different feel though and you get the sense that finally everyone has bought into the FUENTE way.

don't know to much about the OLine I already kinda spoke on my thoughts on the WR position/coaches, Jham and what hes going to mean to the future in BBURG in the Blacksburg BBQ bash post.

great write up LA! appreciate all you do! not trying to highjack your post just wanted to co sign and add some of the little details I heard that maybe the same or a little different from you.

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the DE position is going to be pray by committee right now

I hope this is just a typo and our DEs are coming a long a little better than prayers. I am starting to feel better about the DTs, but nothing I have heard has made me think that the DEs are not going to be a liability this year. The good news is the rest of the defense sounds like it has made big strides, so maybe they can minimize the damage.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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theyre coming along. but you just have to understand its a really young group, the loss of gaines not just as a player is big. when I say pray I just mean the standard is high around here DE has typically for a long time been a position of strength or atleast very solid with a stud on one side. right now its just going to be by committee, its still early in camp and hopefully someone can emerge before or through out the season. I have faith in the entire group to collectively get the job done but the #s I don't expect to be impressive. if they can hold their own, fill their gap properly and allow our LBS and edge guys to play free in the run game consistently that will be a HUGE win for us.

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Really happy for Hunter. Ton of expectations for him must have been tough. Some guys just need time to develop and find their role at the next level, and that's cool.

With regard to the locker room, can't wait for a mic to accidentally pick up an unfiltered NBA reference after a big play this season. I think the down fan mood in a lot of ways mirrored the players mood. Hoping and expecting both to improve dramatically.

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can't wait for a mic to accidentally pick up an unfiltered NBA reference after a big play this season.

I can't wait for a mic to pick it up when we play ODU and big plays happen in very specific scenarios.

Is it basketball season yet?

Let me follow up a bit here.

Garbutt has really poured it on since the pads have gone on. Was told he was easily the top performer on D the last few weeks. Eli has also really stepped up and has been very disruptive. Becton is as much as an enigma as he ever was. He looks like he's never played football one play, and then swims Darrisaw and and spin moves Keene on his way to a sack on the next play.

Farley has had a little rough patch, but has been hampered a bit by a minor injury. On the flip side, Waller has looked very good recently.

Grimz has been practicing primarily outside over the past week or two. The staff really thinks they hit a home run with Robinson and are trying to see if he'll be ready to handle starter's minutes against BC. Would also expect him to be your PR for the next 4 years. I think Robinson avoids a redshirt, and potentially Pinckney, but the rest of the group fits under the 4 game rule.

Beck is our for the year with a broken collarbone. King continues to massively impress. Also heard that Holston looks better.

Good news, glad to hear positive things about the team. Thanks

So we should disregard that 4.83 camp 40-time from Robinson, huh?

Must have had a bad camp time or something. Happens all the time. He is a good bit faster than that. Will never be a complete burner but not at all slow

Your updates are great. Thanks much!

Thanks so much. Tayvion is the real deal - pure playmaker. The measurables don't really matter for him - he is one of those guys who has the natural ability to get open, make guys miss and simply make plays.

Great to hear on Garbutt. Hope Farley gets healthy as I think he turns a corner if he is healthy. Adams doesn't have the measurables either, but he is a guy who can play. I'm optimistic that he surprises people. I can't wait to see him get some shots to return punts.

If the O-line gets sorted out I still believe that will be the strength of the time over the next several years (cross your fingers on Hoffman). We have legit big time talent up front and it's all young. I believe there is a solid chance Tenuta starts and Darrisaw or Smith slides to guard.

I believe our passing game will be better than we have ever had before. Just wait for it....

*Just wait for it*

... Nope. Hype meter off the charts.

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better than we have ever had before

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Aw, this game. Even though we won I still can't bring myself to re-watch it.

I did once a couple of years ago, thinking it wasn't gonna be as bad as I remembered...

It was worse. What an awful football game.

Beck ran track last year correct? Is it still the rule that you can go only play college sports for 5 consecutive years? so he will only have 3 more years of eligibility? (assuming no 6th year waiver)

Love hearing that the top defensive preformer this fall plays on the line. Also finding a reliable weapon at a position that can really swing momentum in an instant (punt returner) is huuuuuge.

If King could have somehow made it to town in the Spring, that would likely have been a game changer for him.

Is it basketball season yet?

Dejuan Ellis looks incredibly fast in some IG clips he's posted. I feel like he's the forgotten man in that position group.

Thats good, he could be our secret weapon. I saw a few Jet sweeps where he blasted by the DE and OLB; the more attention that Grimsley, Hazelton and Turner get, Ellis will get more opportunities and I hope the same for Mitchell, come on lets get this thing started

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Would love some creativity here with him. That was the criticism of Ocain/Stiney, etc. Guys like Ellis didn't get the ball in space. In CornFu's offense, he is clearly not going to be a 50/50 jump ball guy, so can he get some burn on certain downs? That's the question. Keene/Mitchell, and whomever is playing the X- Haze/Tre and then you have Grimsley at Z..etc. Would love some creativity to get Ellis some touches in the base offense.

Hopefully that creativity is not just the end around or jet sweep.

Unless it is a double/reverse jet sweep with Ellis going in one direction and Beck in the other.

That would be fun to see once.

Yep.

Also, keep in mind that Ellis can absolutely spin it. Not that he'll be called upon to throw it much, but picture that jet sweep sucking a secondary upfield, only to have Ellis drop a dime to Keene or Mitchell on a backside drag.

Yum.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Yep.

Also, keep in mind that Ellis can absolutely spin it. Not that he'll be called upon to throw it much, but picture that jet sweep sucking a secondary upfield, only to have Ellis drop a dime to Keene or Mitchell on a backside drag.

Fixed that for me. Uuuuuugh

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

I agree - speed kills and if he (Ellis) is capable (even limited capability) finding a way to use that weapon is a key. Also, from what I have gathered Tayvion is really impressive and a natural - maybe not as fast, but can really ball.

He looked strong at getting separation from the slot, which is an issue for Grimsley. If Robinson is better, then I am pretty damned excited about Robinson.

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Damn Dax. Cementing himself as an All Time Hokie favorite in the ladies hearts too. When I drop 15 lbs it's usually from my belly to my ass.

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Just needs a bear skin rug.

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Love the #BodyByHilgart he added. Dude is ripped. Looks like we will have some athletes on the field this year.

I'm just here to sling some legs

I'm a bit higher on McClease/Holston than most. If they can stay healthy, both have shown some ability to make plays. One of my bigger issues with Willis was his decision-making with his option reads in the run game. RBs can produce in Fuente's system, but a lot of that is in the QB's hands. Poor reads lead to minus plays, even with a star RB.

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McClease has seemed like the better back; more wiggle, some burst, but gets worn down as the season progresses. Holston hasn't shown me anything to get too excited about, maybe with a fully healthy offseason that changes, but I'm not optimistic.

I'm hopeful about Wheatley and especially King; maybe Bell or Steward surprise.

I hope we are able to get have a consistent running game regardless of who is there...I hope we can redshirt King and Gary while playing King in a few games, but he really needs a year to put on weight. I remember Ryan Williams freshman year, they were saying how good he was on scout team...since this is the comparison, i really hope we hear the same things about King.

I thought Zion DeBose and Robert Porcher IV were 2 D-lineman to be excited about along with Eli Adams...I hope they all beast this year!

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So people are sharing "body by Hilgart" pictures on social media but I can't find if they are old or new. If this is current Nadir Thompson is a freak.

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Damn. I need to train like these guys.

I thought the before pictures were gonna be the after pics, and man was I surprised. Dude got swole.

I don't doubt the results, but why they gotta do such an apples to oranges comparison. At least look your best in the before!

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Umm have bad news for you about EVERY before and after picture.

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Oh I know. But it still drives me crazy.

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Good grief, he might kill someone.

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If that is real, it's about time VT got on board with SEC "weightlifting" programs.

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He is really intense about training and (key word) nutrition. It's his major and he is a kid who puts in the effort in every aspect from a physical transformation standpoint.

Holy crap. Those faceapp filters have gotten ridiculous

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some quick thoughts on depth chart:

1. Really, really need Hoffman.
2. I hope Harris gets an opportunity at OG.
3. Really surprised at the fast start from Kendricks (and Pollard, somewhat) instead of Fuga.
4. Concerned not to see Proctor mentioned.
5. DE scares the crap out of me.
6. Too many good athletes and players in the back 7 for us not to be considerably better on the back end.

Agree on these. I think we will definitely be more sound defensively, but I'm really worried about the noted lack of progress at DE. I think our linebackers and defensive backs will be better in position, but if we can't generate an effective pass rush from our front four, I'm definitely concerned.

Also it's just par for the course that the NCAA will screw us and not rule on Hoffman before the season. It sounds like he may be the difference between a good and potentially great OL. Concerns at RB too, as it seems Holston/McClease have hit their ceilings, and King is likely the best back on the roster but needs time to bulk up and learn the blocking schemes before he can get the lion's share of carries. Some encouragement, but I still think this is about an 8 win team, plus or minus a game if we get a few lucky breaks or not.

I'm hoping Webb sees very limited action against Boston College given the physical nature of their offense. Then hopefully we can really break him in against Furman and Old Dominion.

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I like it. I feel surprisingly comfortable looking over the roster. As we've talked about before, we're still young but this is definitely a big year to see how guys are developing under Fuente and Co. I really just hope we arent too conservative offensively like we have been these past 2 years. I look at the skill we have on offense and it just doesn't make sense that we can't win a couple shootouts if there are games our defense is struggling. I know we don't have a home run hitter in the backfield right now, but our oline should be more than strong enough to make defenses respect our run game at least enough so that our play actions/RPOs are much more effective.

Running Back is worrisome because it seems like our best back is a true freshman that could probably use a year to grow up physically. I am interested to see how Holston does after a his first healthy off season. i don't think people know how big that is and hopefully it translates to improvement.

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I guess im still concerned with DE and the back seven no matter what ppl say. Still having nightmares about ODU taking a page out of ECUs playbook.

DBU pupils looking athletic in this video, the throws from the QB's on the other hand...😬

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Glad I'm not the only one...

JH really seems to connect with the players. Glad that they moved him up to an actual staff position. I hope that it translates to better production from the safety position.

No way Safeties aren't better this year. They should be a real strength. Good talent, good experience, good coaching.

Especially if Deablo can stay healthy. I believe he didn't travel to ODU (which caused us to shuffle and play 2 guys in spots they weren't good at) and missed the ND game. We needed him so bad that we played him at UNC when he could barely run. With his back-ups (hopefully) improving and him staying healthy, we cannot possibly be worse at safety. I'm also banking on Floyd returning to his 2017 self with Jham replacing Nix.

A couple of observations:

1. DBU might be back... We didn't get a good look at a whole lot of technique, but they look hungry and they are looking for the ball. Hopefully they can tackle this year.

2. Keshawn King... Thats all I'm gonna say.

Is it basketball season yet?

Keshawn King looks quick, but he better be if he is going to make it 12 games getting hit by guys 60- 100 lbs. more than he weighs. He is thin, and a year of beefing up would be better for him and his career.

I think he'll be just fine with the hand full of carries he'll be getting each game.

Its going to be very exciting to see him grow and potentially become an All-ACC type of back.

Is it basketball season yet?

Personally I'm glad to know that JHam is bringing the right music to practice! That's the difference maker.

And that Wiles agrees with him.

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Team looks fresh and in football shape! Love first week of camp!

Burmeister has been denied his immediate eligibility request.

Henry, your realize this one comment will call forth the "We HATE the NCAA" TKP mob...

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Isn't he the backup, backup, backup QB?

LAHokie commented this in regards to Burmeister

If we got word today that his waiver was denied, I bet we'd hear very quickly that willis was anointed the starter.

That seems to imply that he was definitely in competition

Possibly, but I think more so that he was promised a chance to win the job when he transferred, and if they announced less than a week in that it would be Willis, that wouldn't be a good look for the staff.

From comments I have seen on here, he was looking like he would be pushing for the backup role.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

As expected. The other one is more important.

Curious what sort of plays they'll design for King.

Same thing they called for Brendan Ore, except from the gun.

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I'm pretty sure the correct answer is "scoring plays".