So, anybody know why I should pick YouTubeTV over Hulu with Live TV or vice versa?
Edit: Looks like it is going to be Hulu for me since it comes with the streaming catalog. More stuff there that I am interested in than the YouTube originals and it is 5 buck cheaper. This was really useful to look at though: https://www.suppose.tv (thanks to Yetti)
I made a reluctant switch from cable to YoutubeTV in January or February of this year and so far it has been pretty great. It's essentially just regular TV, but without all the extra filler channels you never watch anyway. They also have some algorithm that tracks what you watch and will have most of what you're looking for on a home screen type thing with thumbnails so you don't even have to scroll through your channel list to see what's on. They usually have a thumbnail for sporting events you tend to watch + just about any channel with a movie playing. On the movie thing, they also have a library of streamable movies that is pretty nice. However, depending on what channel is hosting it, it may be edited for TV.
My only worry with upcoming college football season is that I usually like to bounce between 2-3 games, and while YTTV has a decent setup for doing that, we will see if the channels load/buffer annoyingly each time I switch. Obviously with cable that was never a concern when flipping between channels.
I actually just bought a WiFi mesh system to improve the speeds in my house for football season. My main TV room is on the complete opposite side of my router, so there are times that my streaming isn't as good as it should be.
I currently live in an apartment, but the mesh thing caught my interest for the future of home ownership and the reliance on streaming nowadays. Is a mesh system pretty easy to figure out and set-up?
It is supposed to be easy. I'm not a big computer/network person, but the reviews state it is easy to set up. I think most of them come with an app that takes you through the process (you set it up through the app). You just have to turn wifi off on your modem/router.
I bought the Google mesh routers and they were a breeze to set up. Its made a noticeable difference in the strength of my signal throughout the house, and even outside. I live across the street from an apartment complex, and their signals routinely interfered with my home network. Not anymore.
The Google Wifi app was really easy to set up, and its incredibly easy to prioritize and block connections as needed. Whenever the wife and I sit down to stream a movie or some shows (Stranger Things), I'll prioritize the Chromecast for about an hour longer than needed, and the stream is strong throughout.
I put it Google WiFi last year in 2017 and we love it. Better connection, better speeds.
It was an upgrade on my old router which did not include the AC rating or whatever the latest one was at the time. We went from okay coverage in the living room and good coverage in the rest of the house to great coverage in the whole house and good coverage in the garage, yard and such. We even get enough connection to stream at the very back of our property,
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also with Google Wifi, the units manage themselves pretty well. With every dlink, netgear, linksys, etc Ive ever owned, I ended up power cycling each of them every other week or so. Since I put in the mesh system, I have had to reboot 1 of the units once.
Yeah I'm glad I went with it. I've gone through the Linksys, Netgear, Asus routers before, and they were all... iffy at best. I absolutely loathed having to log into the hardware to get anything done, and a lot of the time things would just go wonky for no reason. And it never helped that the software on that hardware seemed to already be 2 generations out of date on new devices. Just poor manufacturing.
Night and day different with Google. Don't have to jump through hoops to control who is connected, and see which devices may be sucking up bandwidth. Prioritize devices with ease. Its just a much better UI for the actual end user to interface with. I can't see ever going back.
I haven't tested just how far the signal goes, but my old system would barely function outside. With the current one, I know we get a strong signal from our lower porch, which was impossible before.
I got the Netgear Orbi 2-pack from Costco for $150. It was a good price, so I figured I would give it a shot. If this doesn't work well, then I'm going to go with the Google 3-pack. It is $270-280. That's why I figured I'd give the Netgear a try first.
I went with the Orbi earlier this year as well. Ran the netgear powerline adapter to get one of the satellites on a wired connection to my upstairs as well. Works great. Love it.
I got the system today and hooked it up. It was pretty easy, but realized that I didn't turn wifi off on my original router, and I created all kinds of issues when I went back and turned it off. I had to reset the setting of the Orbi and start over.
Anyways....I live in a 2,500 SF house. My router is on the first floor on one side of the house and my satellite is on the 2nd floor on the other side of the house. I have 100 mbs service with FiOS and I was getting the same speed throughout the house. I do need to connect more devices, but it is certainly faster than it was before.
My biggest issue with streaming- by far- is not being able to surf channels easily. PS Vue makes this virtually impossible, and of course now have stupid ad pop ups, making using Alexa for a remote difficult when first tuning in. If anyone knows the Alexa command for "say ok to PSVues stupid fucking question/pop up" please let me know.
With YouTubeTV I use either my tablet or phone as a remote with Chromecasts. When I hold the device in portrait orientation, the streaming channel is at the top and the 4 most recent channels that I have watched are on the bottom of the screen. So flipping channels between games is as easy as tapping the channel at the bottom for the other game that I want to go to.
I'm not sure if the channels are different depending where you live, but in Upstate SC, there are a few channel differences. Hulu has A&E, Boomerang, History, Lifetime, & Viceland. YTTV has AMC, BBC, IFC, MLB Network, NBA TV, Tennis Channel, and a couple other channels I have never heard of.
ABC is also On-Demand only for Hulu (at least where I live).
I think Hulu also has 50 hrs of DVR available (maybe you can upgrade to more?), and YTTV is unlimited DVR.
As far as I know, Hulu offers more original programming.
I am canceling Dish, and haven't decided yet which one I will go with.
YTTV has all the same channels across the board with the ability to buy extra like hbo, stars, showtime, etc. Your local channels will automatically be the locals in your area like Washington DC's nbc.
I have Hulu Live and the only issue I have with it is you can only use it on "mobile devices" when you travel. For some reason it views Chromecasts as mobile devices, so that's what we use when we go down to the OBX house. As far as I know, the other streaming services don't have this limitation.
I have YouTubeTV, so I cannot speak for Hulu, but YouTubeTV has a cool "Stats" tab that you can use while watching live sports that has up to date stats for the game. It is pretty cool.
The two biggest comparisons to make before deciding are supported devices and the channel lineups. PS Vue, YTTV and Hulu TV have different channel offerings so make sure the channels you want the most are carried by the provider you select. All three of these will have the ACCN.
I'm not sure about Hulu Live but with Youtube TV you can have up to three others stream the same event I believe. So for the past few months I've split it with two other friends for $16/month. No complaints so far, good quality, never buffers, and unlimited DVR space.
Best news on this website in a long time. Compared to Hulu, I just find YoutubeTV easier to use and like its setup more. I dropped it a month or so ago when they upped their price from $40 to $50, but the addition of the ACCN will make it worth signing back up for sure.
Maybe this is posted elsewhere, but do we know yet how many and which VT games will be on the network? I'd pay for YTTV to see every VT game, but I won't if I can't.
I think it's practically guaranteed that YTTV will include all of our games, with the addition of the ACC Network. All of our home games and away conference games will be on some combination of ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPNU, or the ACC Network, and our only non-con road game is at ND, which will be broadcasted by NBC. YTTV now includes all of these channels.
Only issue I have ever had is come basketball season where they throw our games on nbc sports Washington but it won't show because of a caps or wizards game
The only VT game that won't be on a ESPN run channel this year is @ND which will be on NBC. YTTV has NBC but you need to make sure its available for your zip code.
So just an FYI for anyone interested. Playstation Vue will be carrying the ACCN and the channel/guide interface is probably the best out there. It's a bit more expensive, but it might be worth it to some of you.
I cant get past the fact that Vue puts channels along the X axis and times down the Y axis. Its so counter to everything my brain has been trained to do with channel guides.
Does anyone who has YTTV know if it has region locks or black out areas? I currently live in Africa and finding a way to stream VT games is frustrating. I do have access to a VPN but obviously routing back to the US servers slows things down.
Apparently YTTV doesn't allow streaming from abroad. Additionally, you have to register a "home location" in the US, and you have to connect to YTTV from your "home location" once every month or two to retain service. I'm not sure how this would work with VPNs, but if you can specify a certain city it might work. In any case, you'd have to rely on your VPN for streaming anyway, so it may not be worth your time.
Just for reference, connecting with a VPN works for this and you don't have to stream through the VPN - you simply need to log into YouTubeTV via the VPN occasionally.
I know a guy who shares an account with family that live out of state - they set up a VPN to log in from time to time to circumvent this. Interruptions are rather rare and, when they occur, simply logging in via the VPN resolves it immediately.
So the "log in with VPN" is essentially to verify that you live in the states but it'll let you access overseas. That actually makes it sound like a decent deal.
I know this works state-to-state. I'm not sure about overseas, but I'm actually curious enough that I'm looking into it now. I should've read more carefully.
But yes, their requirement is basically that you log in from your "home area" (which means the FCC-designated footprint of your broadcast channels) at some reasonable, yet ambiguous interval.
And, upon a little research,
You won't be able to access any programs on YouTube TV, either live or recorded, while traveling internationally.
Purely as an FYI, It's actually nowhere near that detailed/specific. For example, the "blackout" can be resolved by streaming from a mobile device/cellular connection anywhere within the "home area." If you reside in a small town like Reedville or Burkeville, you can stream from I-95 in Richmond and it does the job.
So my parents currently have Vue and are thinking about switching services. I know Vue carries ACCN, so I'm telling them to make sure what they're getting will have ACCN but is also better than Vue. What would y'all recommend?
If they want to stick with streaming services, the only options outside of PS Vue are YoutubeTV and Hulu with Live TV. They should be able to get free trials for both of those so they could test them out and compare to PS Vue to figure out which one works best for them.
Is YoutubeTV still not supported on Fire devices? I know they said it would be by the end of the year, but if it is not I may upgrade Hulu until it is and see how I like it.
When I looked into this earlier (after the suggestions I received from you and others on Prime Day), it seemed to me like there is a distinct difference between carrying the Youtube App and the YoutubeTV app, which are separate. Roku and Chromecast definitely have YoutubeTV, but with the FireTV's and Fire sticks it was much foggier. There are videos on how to get the YoutubeTV app on your fire stick or FireTV, but it seems more like jailbreaking an iOS than just downloading an already supported app.
You are right, they are separate. But according to the article, Firestick has both in addition to the YouTube Kids app.
Google has announced that YouTube, YouTube TV and YouTube Kids apps are now available on Amazon's Fire TV streamers and TVs worldwide, after 18 months of hostility and user workarounds.
I use Hulu Live and have no complaints about it. Only bad thing I can think of is that it doesn't have ABC live in my area so any sports that come on ABC I have to stream on ESPN app (also the wife doesn't get to watch Grey's Anatomy live)
Yes, an antenna is a great solution for this but only if you are in range of towers. It looks like Jack14vt is located in Christiansburg and the ABC tower in that area is east of Roanoke. Based on the screenshot below, reception may be a big issue here.
Jack - see if any of your neighbors have OTA antennas to get an idea of the reception you can expect to get. A standard low cost antenna should work for the channels shown in green, however, to get a good signal from ABC you may have to get an amplified long-range antenna instead.
Okay folks who use youtube TV I have a question. I'm currently using youtube tv living in town with 200 mbps internet from comacast but getting ready to move out into the hills where I'll be on 20 mbps Century link internet should that be enough to stream using youtube tv for my tv source or would it be low enough speeds to cause issues?
We had 30 mbps from Century link but ended up dumping it due to frequent complete losses of connection and actually download speeds of 5 mbps during peak times. Called multiple times to complain, and they came out during off peak times to measure 15-20 on the hard line and said we were good. They also tried to rent us their router but it was rated for half the speed of the service they were selling us.
I;m not too far away actually but whats worse I'm half a mile from a updated new verizon cell tower but unfortunately all their unlimited plans suck and have caps. The day someone can find a way to get cheaper internet out in the country theyll be millionaires quick
TIL that when you drop YTTV and come back they keep your DVR and scheduled recordings. I'm sorry YTTV. Let's never fight again.
Edit: Oops, almost forgot to mention that Xfinity told me that they would be carrying ACC Network, but it would ONLY be streaming and ONLY on certain plans. But they also told me that Xfinity stream would work on mobile devices outside of your home wifi network and that they would ABSOLUTELY be carrying the ACC Network as a full channel. So, take that with a grain of salt.
They probably were confusing "ACC Network" (the new full channel) with "ACC Network Extra" (the branding used in 2018 for streaming-only games in ACC stadiums). I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the "ACC Network Extra" branding around for those handful of games that don't even make it onto "ACC Network", only adding to the confusion.
Oooh, that's a good possibility because every other time I have asked about ACC Network, other than when they were upselling me on the cable package, the person I was talking to had never even heard of it and didn't know what I was talking about. Funny how when they were selling me on the cable package the guy knew exactly what it was and swore it would be picked up.
Does anyone have a dedicated tablet or other device for the purpose of being a YTTV remote when using with Gooogle chromecast connected to a TV? While using the phone and/or computer is relatively easy, I want a dedicated device for my living room that stays signed into YTTV so that it's always there and easy to use for me and any guest that happens to be there. Does anyone use a dedicated device? If so, what do you use and what's the cost?
Note: I bought my 56" Samsung before YTTV was on smart TVs. If there is a way to update my TV, that would also work.
I would imagine that any Android device would work, and you can buy relatively cheap (under $100) prepaid Android phones from Best Buy. I know someone who bought a Moto E from them for about $50 to use exclusively as a wifi-only device while traveling abroad, and it worked pretty well for them. Looks like you could get an off-brand phone for as low as $25, which would probably work but I don't know for sure.
Yep, a prepaid phone will work indefinitely as a wifi-only device without activating it. I also still use a few of my older "postpaid" phones in wifi-only mode for various things, so if you replaced a phone on your plan at some point and still have the old one that should also work just fine. You'd just need to make sure to charge it regularly, or keep it on a charger on your end table or whatever.
Does anyone know when channel lineup info is going to be released for the respective providers? I have verizon and I can't find a damn thing on which channel it will be on and if I need to make a change to my plan to get access.
Disney and YTTV have until Friday to reach a deal or the streaming service will lose all Disney backed channels, including local ABC channels, ESPN, FX, and the ACCN
This constant fighting is getting old, it's worse than cable and the consumers are losing big with no skin in the game
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So, anybody know why I should pick YouTubeTV over Hulu with Live TV or vice versa?
Edit: Looks like it is going to be Hulu for me since it comes with the streaming catalog. More stuff there that I am interested in than the YouTube originals and it is 5 buck cheaper. This was really useful to look at though: https://www.suppose.tv (thanks to Yetti)
I'll be weighing these two options next week. I'll try to gather a pro's/con's list for each while I do.
I made a reluctant switch from cable to YoutubeTV in January or February of this year and so far it has been pretty great. It's essentially just regular TV, but without all the extra filler channels you never watch anyway. They also have some algorithm that tracks what you watch and will have most of what you're looking for on a home screen type thing with thumbnails so you don't even have to scroll through your channel list to see what's on. They usually have a thumbnail for sporting events you tend to watch + just about any channel with a movie playing. On the movie thing, they also have a library of streamable movies that is pretty nice. However, depending on what channel is hosting it, it may be edited for TV.
My only worry with upcoming college football season is that I usually like to bounce between 2-3 games, and while YTTV has a decent setup for doing that, we will see if the channels load/buffer annoyingly each time I switch. Obviously with cable that was never a concern when flipping between channels.
I actually just bought a WiFi mesh system to improve the speeds in my house for football season. My main TV room is on the complete opposite side of my router, so there are times that my streaming isn't as good as it should be.
I currently live in an apartment, but the mesh thing caught my interest for the future of home ownership and the reliance on streaming nowadays. Is a mesh system pretty easy to figure out and set-up?
It is supposed to be easy. I'm not a big computer/network person, but the reviews state it is easy to set up. I think most of them come with an app that takes you through the process (you set it up through the app). You just have to turn wifi off on your modem/router.
I bought the Google mesh routers and they were a breeze to set up. Its made a noticeable difference in the strength of my signal throughout the house, and even outside. I live across the street from an apartment complex, and their signals routinely interfered with my home network. Not anymore.
The Google Wifi app was really easy to set up, and its incredibly easy to prioritize and block connections as needed. Whenever the wife and I sit down to stream a movie or some shows (Stranger Things), I'll prioritize the Chromecast for about an hour longer than needed, and the stream is strong throughout.
I put it Google WiFi
last yearin 2017 and we love it. Better connection, better speeds.It was an upgrade on my old router which did not include the AC rating or whatever the latest one was at the time. We went from okay coverage in the living room and good coverage in the rest of the house to great coverage in the whole house and good coverage in the garage, yard and such. We even get enough connection to stream at the very back of our property,
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also with Google Wifi, the units manage themselves pretty well. With every dlink, netgear, linksys, etc Ive ever owned, I ended up power cycling each of them every other week or so. Since I put in the mesh system, I have had to reboot 1 of the units once.
Yeah I'm glad I went with it. I've gone through the Linksys, Netgear, Asus routers before, and they were all... iffy at best. I absolutely loathed having to log into the hardware to get anything done, and a lot of the time things would just go wonky for no reason. And it never helped that the software on that hardware seemed to already be 2 generations out of date on new devices. Just poor manufacturing.
Night and day different with Google. Don't have to jump through hoops to control who is connected, and see which devices may be sucking up bandwidth. Prioritize devices with ease. Its just a much better UI for the actual end user to interface with. I can't see ever going back.
I haven't tested just how far the signal goes, but my old system would barely function outside. With the current one, I know we get a strong signal from our lower porch, which was impossible before.
I got the Netgear Orbi 2-pack from Costco for $150. It was a good price, so I figured I would give it a shot. If this doesn't work well, then I'm going to go with the Google 3-pack. It is $270-280. That's why I figured I'd give the Netgear a try first.
I went with the Orbi earlier this year as well. Ran the netgear powerline adapter to get one of the satellites on a wired connection to my upstairs as well. Works great. Love it.
I got the system today and hooked it up. It was pretty easy, but realized that I didn't turn wifi off on my original router, and I created all kinds of issues when I went back and turned it off. I had to reset the setting of the Orbi and start over.
Anyways....I live in a 2,500 SF house. My router is on the first floor on one side of the house and my satellite is on the 2nd floor on the other side of the house. I have 100 mbs service with FiOS and I was getting the same speed throughout the house. I do need to connect more devices, but it is certainly faster than it was before.
My biggest issue with streaming- by far- is not being able to surf channels easily. PS Vue makes this virtually impossible, and of course now have stupid ad pop ups, making using Alexa for a remote difficult when first tuning in. If anyone knows the Alexa command for "say ok to PSVues stupid fucking question/pop up" please let me know.
YouTube tv is super is for channel surfing. You just scroll down the live list
With YouTubeTV I use either my tablet or phone as a remote with Chromecasts. When I hold the device in portrait orientation, the streaming channel is at the top and the 4 most recent channels that I have watched are on the bottom of the screen. So flipping channels between games is as easy as tapping the channel at the bottom for the other game that I want to go to.
I'm not sure if the channels are different depending where you live, but in Upstate SC, there are a few channel differences. Hulu has A&E, Boomerang, History, Lifetime, & Viceland. YTTV has AMC, BBC, IFC, MLB Network, NBA TV, Tennis Channel, and a couple other channels I have never heard of.
ABC is also On-Demand only for Hulu (at least where I live).
I think Hulu also has 50 hrs of DVR available (maybe you can upgrade to more?), and YTTV is unlimited DVR.
As far as I know, Hulu offers more original programming.
I am canceling Dish, and haven't decided yet which one I will go with.
YTTV has all the same channels across the board with the ability to buy extra like hbo, stars, showtime, etc. Your local channels will automatically be the locals in your area like Washington DC's nbc.
With Hulu teaming up with Disney+, I am kinda' leaning in Hulu's direction.
I have Hulu Live and the only issue I have with it is you can only use it on "mobile devices" when you travel. For some reason it views Chromecasts as mobile devices, so that's what we use when we go down to the OBX house. As far as I know, the other streaming services don't have this limitation.
I have YouTubeTV, so I cannot speak for Hulu, but YouTubeTV has a cool "Stats" tab that you can use while watching live sports that has up to date stats for the game. It is pretty cool.
The two biggest comparisons to make before deciding are supported devices and the channel lineups. PS Vue, YTTV and Hulu TV have different channel offerings so make sure the channels you want the most are carried by the provider you select. All three of these will have the ACCN.
Here are two resources to help out with comparing channels:
CNET - easy to follow chart
Suppose - interactive website that lets you filter for as many channels as you want
Well, that is pretty spiffy. Thanks!
I'm not sure about Hulu Live but with Youtube TV you can have up to three others stream the same event I believe. So for the past few months I've split it with two other friends for $16/month. No complaints so far, good quality, never buffers, and unlimited DVR space.
*dvr items will expire if they aren't viewed within 9 months I believe
Is this going to be an addon package required or is it part of the basic plan?
I don't think that YouTube has add ons. It is just one package
They do have add ons, but that's more for the hbo and stars
Right. I guess I was thinking of sports with the ACCN. I think it'll be part of the regular programming.
Yessir.
You can do channel add ons like HBO and Showtime. You can also do things like NBA League Pass.
Best news on this website in a long time. Compared to Hulu, I just find YoutubeTV easier to use and like its setup more. I dropped it a month or so ago when they upped their price from $40 to $50, but the addition of the ACCN will make it worth signing back up for sure.
YESSS
Maybe this is posted elsewhere, but do we know yet how many and which VT games will be on the network? I'd pay for YTTV to see every VT game, but I won't if I can't.
only the first 3 weeks of the ACCN have been released and 2 of our first 3 games are on it (BC and Furman)
I think it's practically guaranteed that YTTV will include all of our games, with the addition of the ACC Network. All of our home games and away conference games will be on some combination of ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPNU, or the ACC Network, and our only non-con road game is at ND, which will be broadcasted by NBC. YTTV now includes all of these channels.
Only issue I have ever had is come basketball season where they throw our games on nbc sports Washington but it won't show because of a caps or wizards game
The only VT game that won't be on a ESPN run channel this year is @ND which will be on NBC. YTTV has NBC but you need to make sure its available for your zip code.
Looks like I'm going back to YTTV with my tail tucked between my legs.
So all of us comcast users are still awaiting Gandalf to ride in on first light of the fifth day with an ACCN deal...
So just an FYI for anyone interested. Playstation Vue will be carrying the ACCN and the channel/guide interface is probably the best out there. It's a bit more expensive, but it might be worth it to some of you.
I cant get past the fact that Vue puts channels along the X axis and times down the Y axis. Its so counter to everything my brain has been trained to do with channel guides.
Does anyone who has YTTV know if it has region locks or black out areas? I currently live in Africa and finding a way to stream VT games is frustrating. I do have access to a VPN but obviously routing back to the US servers slows things down.
Only for the local news channels.
I feel your pain. I'm in Senegal. Best option I've found is to set up a Slingbox with a friend in the US.
Apparently YTTV doesn't allow streaming from abroad. Additionally, you have to register a "home location" in the US, and you have to connect to YTTV from your "home location" once every month or two to retain service. I'm not sure how this would work with VPNs, but if you can specify a certain city it might work. In any case, you'd have to rely on your VPN for streaming anyway, so it may not be worth your time.
Yea that's the kind of thing I was afraid of... Thanks for the info though
Just for reference, connecting with a VPN works for this and you don't have to stream through the VPN - you simply need to log into YouTubeTV via the VPN occasionally.
I know a guy who shares an account with family that live out of state - they set up a VPN to log in from time to time to circumvent this. Interruptions are rather rare and, when they occur, simply logging in via the VPN resolves it immediately.
So the "log in with VPN" is essentially to verify that you live in the states but it'll let you access overseas. That actually makes it sound like a decent deal.
I know this works state-to-state. I'm not sure about overseas, but I'm actually curious enough that I'm looking into it now. I should've read more carefully.
But yes, their requirement is basically that you log in from your "home area" (which means the FCC-designated footprint of your broadcast channels) at some reasonable, yet ambiguous interval.
And, upon a little research,
So you would need to use a VPN full-time.
It is to verify you are located at the same zip code/address/IP address as the home account. The home account location just needs to be in the states.
Purely as an FYI, It's actually nowhere near that detailed/specific. For example, the "blackout" can be resolved by streaming from a mobile device/cellular connection anywhere within the "home area." If you reside in a small town like Reedville or Burkeville, you can stream from I-95 in Richmond and it does the job.
So my parents currently have Vue and are thinking about switching services. I know Vue carries ACCN, so I'm telling them to make sure what they're getting will have ACCN but is also better than Vue. What would y'all recommend?
If they want to stick with streaming services, the only options outside of PS Vue are YoutubeTV and Hulu with Live TV. They should be able to get free trials for both of those so they could test them out and compare to PS Vue to figure out which one works best for them.
There's also Sling TV, FuboTV, and DirecTV Now, among others, but I'm not sure if any of them have picked up the ACC Network yet.
Is YoutubeTV still not supported on Fire devices? I know they said it would be by the end of the year, but if it is not I may upgrade Hulu until it is and see how I like it.
According to CNET, you should be good to go.
CNET Article
When I looked into this earlier (after the suggestions I received from you and others on Prime Day), it seemed to me like there is a distinct difference between carrying the Youtube App and the YoutubeTV app, which are separate. Roku and Chromecast definitely have YoutubeTV, but with the FireTV's and Fire sticks it was much foggier. There are videos on how to get the YoutubeTV app on your fire stick or FireTV, but it seems more like jailbreaking an iOS than just downloading an already supported app.
You are right, they are separate. But according to the article, Firestick has both in addition to the YouTube Kids app.
Well this is huge news for me because I have a FireTV in My house that can now be a secondary football TV. Thanks again!
I use Hulu Live and have no complaints about it. Only bad thing I can think of is that it doesn't have ABC live in my area so any sports that come on ABC I have to stream on ESPN app (also the wife doesn't get to watch Grey's Anatomy live)
How long until ABC shows are available On-Demand? Hours? Next day?
I want to say next day but not 100% sure. A lot of times she just logs in to her parents dish app and watches it there.
Easy solution is the one-time cost of buying an antenna.
Yes, an antenna is a great solution for this but only if you are in range of towers. It looks like Jack14vt is located in Christiansburg and the ABC tower in that area is east of Roanoke. Based on the screenshot below, reception may be a big issue here.
Jack - see if any of your neighbors have OTA antennas to get an idea of the reception you can expect to get. A standard low cost antenna should work for the channels shown in green, however, to get a good signal from ABC you may have to get an amplified long-range antenna instead.
Okay folks who use youtube TV I have a question. I'm currently using youtube tv living in town with 200 mbps internet from comacast but getting ready to move out into the hills where I'll be on 20 mbps Century link internet should that be enough to stream using youtube tv for my tv source or would it be low enough speeds to cause issues?
A 20 mbps connection will be fine for you - the standard that you want is 5 mbps per HD stream.
From YouTube Support Page:
We had 30 mbps from Century link but ended up dumping it due to frequent complete losses of connection and actually download speeds of 5 mbps during peak times. Called multiple times to complain, and they came out during off peak times to measure 15-20 on the hard line and said we were good. They also tried to rent us their router but it was rated for half the speed of the service they were selling us.
20 mbps CenturyLink DSl service? I hope your close to the local CenturyLink central office building.
I;m not too far away actually but whats worse I'm half a mile from a updated new verizon cell tower but unfortunately all their unlimited plans suck and have caps. The day someone can find a way to get cheaper internet out in the country theyll be millionaires quick
Sure looks similar between Hulu and YTTV for me.
I guess I'll be looking for some tiebreakers.
Anyone use sling? Are they gonna carry ACCN this year?
Right now, they don't have it. However, YouTube TV just announced a few days ago, so things can change quickly.
TIL that when you drop YTTV and come back they keep your DVR and scheduled recordings. I'm sorry YTTV. Let's never fight again.
Edit: Oops, almost forgot to mention that Xfinity told me that they would be carrying ACC Network, but it would ONLY be streaming and ONLY on certain plans. But they also told me that Xfinity stream would work on mobile devices outside of your home wifi network and that they would ABSOLUTELY be carrying the ACC Network as a full channel. So, take that with a grain of salt.
They probably were confusing "ACC Network" (the new full channel) with "ACC Network Extra" (the branding used in 2018 for streaming-only games in ACC stadiums). I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the "ACC Network Extra" branding around for those handful of games that don't even make it onto "ACC Network", only adding to the confusion.
Oooh, that's a good possibility because every other time I have asked about ACC Network, other than when they were upselling me on the cable package, the person I was talking to had never even heard of it and didn't know what I was talking about. Funny how when they were selling me on the cable package the guy knew exactly what it was and swore it would be picked up.
Random YTTV question:
Does anyone have a dedicated tablet or other device for the purpose of being a YTTV remote when using with Gooogle chromecast connected to a TV? While using the phone and/or computer is relatively easy, I want a dedicated device for my living room that stays signed into YTTV so that it's always there and easy to use for me and any guest that happens to be there. Does anyone use a dedicated device? If so, what do you use and what's the cost?
Note: I bought my 56" Samsung before YTTV was on smart TVs. If there is a way to update my TV, that would also work.
I would imagine that any Android device would work, and you can buy relatively cheap (under $100) prepaid Android phones from Best Buy. I know someone who bought a Moto E from them for about $50 to use exclusively as a wifi-only device while traveling abroad, and it worked pretty well for them. Looks like you could get an off-brand phone for as low as $25, which would probably work but I don't know for sure.
hmm..., so a prepaid phone can be used indefinitely if only use wifi? I guess that may work.
That will 100% work or you can buy a cheap iPod touch on craigslist. Amazon Fire tablets are also really cheap.
thanks for the advice. I'll look around.
Yep, a prepaid phone will work indefinitely as a wifi-only device without activating it. I also still use a few of my older "postpaid" phones in wifi-only mode for various things, so if you replaced a phone on your plan at some point and still have the old one that should also work just fine. You'd just need to make sure to charge it regularly, or keep it on a charger on your end table or whatever.
yea, all my old phones are crap by now. But I may try a cheap android for wifi only. That seems like a good idea.
If your tv manufacturer does a firmware update, it can be downloaded and installed from the tv menu.
or get a roku or other device to run apps the TV cant
Does anyone know when channel lineup info is going to be released for the respective providers? I have verizon and I can't find a damn thing on which channel it will be on and if I need to make a change to my plan to get access.
The ACC Network officially launches on August 22nd, so I assume the channel lineup will be available then.
Bumping this oldie because Breaking News applies
Disney and YTTV have until Friday to reach a deal or the streaming service will lose all Disney backed channels, including local ABC channels, ESPN, FX, and the ACCN
This constant fighting is getting old, it's worse than cable and the consumers are losing big with no skin in the game
It's preferable to start a new thread.