Tiebreaker

By: Cpolyson on November 16, 2013, 7:00 PM | 24 comments

Miami just lost
If UNC beats Duke and Va Tech beats UVA there will be a five way tie for first in the coastal. Every team is 2-2 against the other four EXCEPT us. We are 3-1 against Duke, UNC, Miami, and GA Tech. This puts us in the championship game by the very first tiebreaker rule for 3 or more teams.

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reesejenks520's picture reesejenks520 | 12 years 7 months #

I still just don't see Duke losing (said this in a previous post)

histryhokie32's picture histryhokie32 | 12 years 7 months # ^

Wake will probably be rolled over, so UNC is our last hope for us to go to the ACCCG. But it is difficult to see Duke losing one more game this season. Maybe they'll look ahead to December 7 and forget they have a game (or two) to play before then?

histryhokie32's picture histryhokie32 | 12 years 7 months #

This is the clearest explanation of our sliver of hope I've seen since the end of today's game. I'm guessing this is only ACC Coastal wins for the tiebreaker?

papilgee4evaeva's picture papilgee4evaeva | 12 years 7 months # ^

Correct.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

VPIhokieME's picture VPIhokieME
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| 12 years 7 months #

there's still hope lol

Onward and upward

VPIhokieME's picture VPIhokieME
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| 12 years 7 months #

If VT ends up in Charlotte (highly unlikely at this point IMO) I want to see the Hokies beat down the Criminoles and ruin their dream of playing in the big dance.

If Duke ends up in Charlotte (which I'm thinking is pretty likely) I want FSU to dismantle them and go into Pasadena to paste Bama

Onward and upward

hokie4runner's picture hokie4runner | 12 years 7 months # ^

I think for the ACC to get some respect, FSU has to be in that title game. FSU probably has the best shot against Bama anyway.

UNC is playing a different game right now, and could definitely beat Duke. Depends on whether Duke is to be this years Cinderella.

Cpolyson's picture Cpolyson | 12 years 7 months #

Sorry, I did not explain enough. It's the record within the tied teams.
"Combined head-to-head winning percentage among the tied teams"
It's good that we lost to two Atlantic teams. (BC and Maryland)

cds7c's picture cds7c | 12 years 7 months # ^

Correct my if I'm wrong, but we would win any possible tiebreaker. So if we win and Duke loses at least once, we go. Doesn't matter who else we are tied with.

There can't possibly be a two way tie with Duke since GT is in the house at 5-3.

VTGuitarMan's picture VTGuitarMan
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| 12 years 7 months # ^

Nope. See Andy's blog post that he just put up. If Duke loses to Wake but beats UNC, and assuming we win against UVA and Miami beats UVA, we lose the four-way tie to Duke.

"Exit light..."

99Hokies03's picture 99Hokies03 | 12 years 7 months # ^

Right, we will win any tiebreaker except for the four way tie of Miami, GT, Duke, VT. If Miami completely collapses and loses again, we would win the three way tiebreaker of GT, Duke, VT b/c of divisional record (assuming Duke loses to someone).

"Vick, dashing back . . . here he comes again . . . Electrifying . . . and have you ever seen anything like this?"

99Hokies03's picture 99Hokies03 | 12 years 7 months #

There are actually some other scenarios, such as. . .
What if Miami loses again? (Seems more likely now.)
What if Duke loses to Wake Forest or Duke loses to UNC; or both? (Unlikely)

Even though we have a slim chance, odds are Duke is going to win out.

Probably the best chance for VT to make it would be a similar scenario to this (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9981615/five-virginia-sta...)

"Vick, dashing back . . . here he comes again . . . Electrifying . . . and have you ever seen anything like this?"

RocketHokie13's picture RocketHokie13
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| 12 years 7 months #

I just want a win over uva. Win first, worry about everyone else second. There's been a heck of a lot of worrying about everyone else, and not a lot of worrying about winning, it seems.

There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.

VTGuitarMan's picture VTGuitarMan
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| 12 years 7 months #

Just when I thought I shouldn't get my hopes up...

Duke is looking impressive. The UNC game is a heated rivalry, though UNC should probably beat ODU next weekend so would already be eligible for a bowl. If, somehow, they need the win over Duke to get to a bowl, there's a whole new level of motivation.

"Exit light..."

histryhokie32's picture histryhokie32 | 12 years 7 months # ^

I wish I could upvote this...one day.

VPIhokieME's picture VPIhokieME
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| 12 years 7 months # ^

you're 1/4 the way there now...You're welcome! Welcome to TKP

Onward and upward

rockidr4's picture rockidr4 | 12 years 7 months # ^

I instinctively leg people who say things like this.

RocketHokie13's picture RocketHokie13
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| 12 years 7 months # ^

I wish I could upvote this! Maybe one day :)

**Interesting experiment here**

There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.

VTGuitarMan's picture VTGuitarMan
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| 12 years 7 months # ^

"Exit light..."

histryhokie32's picture histryhokie32 | 12 years 7 months # ^

VPIhokieME: Thanks!

VPIhokieME's picture VPIhokieME
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| 12 years 7 months # ^

aaaaaaaand another one

Onward and upward

Hokie_since_92's picture Hokie_since_92 | 12 years 7 months #

Duke must drop two games..

Touchdown Tech - Bill Roth

99Hokies03's picture 99Hokies03 | 12 years 7 months # ^

see Andy Bitter's post. We will win every tiebreaker scenario expect one.

"Vick, dashing back . . . here he comes again . . . Electrifying . . . and have you ever seen anything like this?"

wisec4g's picture wisec4g | 12 years 7 months # ^

VT going in this scenario would be the most ACC thing ever:

Georgia Tech (5-3) is next, followed by Virginia Tech (4-3) and North Carolina (4-3). A very plausible scenario exists where the Hokies could backdoor their way into the ACC title game.

If Duke beats Wake, North Carolina beats Duke and Virginia Tech beats Virginia, there'd be a four-way tie in the Coastal between Georgia Tech, Duke, North Carolina and Virginia Tech. The Hokies would win that tiebreaker by virtue of a 2-1 record against the other three teams (GT is 2-1, UNC and Duke 1-2 in that scenario). VT would then win a head-to-head tiebreaker with Georgia Tech.

Even if Miami (3-3) wins out and is thrown into the mix in a five-way tie, it only enhances the Hokies' position, since Tech beat the 'Canes last week.

If it beats Virginia, Virginia Tech wins a three-way tie with Georgia Tech and Duke at 5-3 (better divisional record, since all three teams would be 1-1 against each other).

Virginia Tech would also win a four-way tiebreaker with Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Miami, provided Duke loses twice.

The tiebreaker the Hokies wouldn't win is a four-way that includes Miami, Georgia Tech and Duke. That would require Duke to lose to Wake Forest but beat North Carolina. Both VT and Duke would be 2-1 against the other three teams. Duke would then advance based on the Blue Devils' head-to-head win against the Hokies.

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