https://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/uva-charlottesville-police-department...
Charlottesville Police Chief RaShall Brackney hopes to use an accusation that the University of Virginia Police Department didn't cooperate in the investigation of a bar fight and stabbing to reexamine the operating agreements between the two agencies, but other officials don't back up her characterization of the case.
Brackney has accused UPD and UVa of withholding evidence and conducting an internal investigation into a Nov. 17 melee at Asado Wing & Taco Co. that involved several people, including two UVa football players and a UVa track athlete.
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Yeah, but those academic standards though.
City police and Commonwealths attorney "This is a serious crime, someone was stabbed and seriously hurt"
LOLUVA:
Pour some Zima on it. You'll be fine.
ScHoLaRs and GeNtLeMaN
I believe their excuse was: "UVA has a med school, this wasn't a stabbing, this was simply an off-campus anatomy lesson"
"field surgery"
Roanoke Times:
If laws are broken, shouldn't the university police department turn over all the information they have to the local police?
Generally with state universities, the university PDs are actual police officers. If it's on UVA campus, they don't have to work with the Charlottesville PD. The CPD chief says they have some sort of agreement to work together, but it sounds like UPD is not being as friendly as she wants them to be.
Eh,
So the campus police appear to be beholden to some privacy standard that prevents the release of information related to a crime committed in public.
That does seem to be a problem. And also a conflict of interest.
Someone got stabbed, but they don't want to create an issue at their school. This is similar to the problem UVa had a couple of years ago with students being pressured by university employees not to report rapes. Because, you know, reflects badly on the school. This isn't the kind of objective counseling students need.
There's a fine line between victims rights, and schools pressuring students to keep it in the family. It might get crossed when you have someone associated with the university taking the statement of the victim.
I can see a potential for conflict of interest there, and I think that's what the Charlottesville Police Department is concerned about.
Thats what I get for not reading the whole article. I don't see how the university PD can be beholden to an education privacy act when investigating a crime. That is stupid and I can see why CPD is not happy. What happens if a non-student is arrested for the same crime, can they request FERPA? I assume not. And if the interviewed people are able to claim protection under FERPA because they were speaking to university officials, why were the UPD not interviewing them. Fuck UVA
Once the police are aware of a crime, they should be doing the interviews, not the university.
It's because there were football players involved, and they wanted to win the Coastal goshdarnit!
Is UVA taking notes from the FSU police?
I think I read that the fight took place on the corner, which is (as far as I know, at least) private property within the Charlottesville city limits. I was wondering why university police were called, but I guess that comes right out of the Florida State crisis manual.
The good fellows probably challenged each other in a gentlemen's duel
Well, when you put it that way, it seems on the up-and-up.
/gentleman's s
Yes, and afterward, ascots were retied and Zima was poured.
I see two trannies about to shoot each other.
Always Sunny will always gets a leg from me
On another note, is it ironic or Freudian that Mac was the one who said that?
The Fulmer Cup awaits
Maybe that's the cup they try to hold more than once a decade plus.
Tim Longo, who is currently the interim UVA PD chief, was formerly the Charlottesville PD chief for a while. I'm not saying that plays into this in any way or that it necessarily means anything, but it certainly adds another layer to this story.
And, of course, the CPD was caught up in all that 8/11 stuff with the skinheads.
Policing in this town is to be discussed on only the thinnest of ice.
I did see something else mentioning that the CPD has a major turnover problem, no one likes the chief, UPD backs up and takes calls for the CPD a lot due to the turnover and understaffing, Albemarle PD is trying to absorb CPD due to understaffing issues and the CPD police chief is doing everything to prevent it, and the CPD is not easy to work with on top of everything. This is from a UVA fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but it could help explain the difficulty of these two PDs working together.
Still, how is UVA general counsel stating that FERPA is preventing the sharing of information?
Charlottesville is a city right? In VA cities and counties are independent, the county can't take over primary law enforcement duties of a city.
You're right. They are an independent city.
Best commentary I've seen on this:
Unbelievable
"An email exchange between Brackney and Longo titled "UVA Football and Track Incident," obtained from the city under a Virginia Freedom of Information Act request, shows a breakdown in communication between the chiefs. Brackney was frustrated because she thought that UVa was stonewalling her department and dodging her calls."
So who is the UPD police chief's technical boss? I find it hard to believe that it is UVA. Since they are a state organization, it would be the state government correct? Why would UVA even have access to interview in lieu of the police when it's not on campus and does not involve educational rights or issues.
Something, something UVA athlete something
But the standards are so much more difficult for the athletes, especially moreso than that school in Virginia's armpit.
/s
Campus police chiefs answer to someone in administration at schools. This is them at LOLUVA:
https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-appoints-associate-vice-president-...