"2020 - Let's go!"

A picture is worth 1,000 words.

After a well-reported dalliance with Baylor, Virginia Tech head coach Justin Fuente Tweeted the following:

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Just as we all predicted

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Lol

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Baylor has a much nicer V shaped meeting room for coaches. And more Lumens on their HD projector.

please never change

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I mean come on man, look at those chairs... they look 2-3 years old, maybe? I'm guessing Staples too. Baylor has higher end leather in their meeting rooms. My Man Jack Tyler would also have a seat at the main table at Baylor, I bet.

Haha well done. You call that a board room!? Puh looks like Enron leftovers.

It's been a minute since all that happened but didn't Enron kind of put Aeron chairs on the public consciousness? When they were auctioning off assets people couldn't believe a company was spending $1000/per on chairs.

Baylor has "home-grown" leather.

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Its actually rich, Corinthian leather....

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Those two Corinthians know a thing about fine leather!

I wouldn't put it past them to establish a cattle ranch on Mars, so they could say each of their leather chairs costs $5M.

I heard Baylor's chairs come with built-in heating and massage options.

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

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shiplap no

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Got shiplap in my home, and let me tell you it allowed me to avoid the wallpaper craze that happened when we were building our house. I'm thankful.

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Don't like shiplap, but would take it in a heartbeat over wallpaper.

Don't let Bill Roth see this picture, he will opine on how much better Baylor's meeting rooms are than tech

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Congratulations, bud!

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It still looks bad. I wish we could get some sort of honest explanation for his behavior. Even if he says, I just had to go check it out. I would be okay with that.

I mean, you got two options to assume: he was interested in the job, or he wasn't interested and had other motives. Either way, a press release hand wave isn't going to make anyone feel any better if they want to judge the man for checking out the opening.

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I look at it like I look at my own career. If a company is really interested in you why not at least have a conversation to see what's being offered?

This take is garbage. Man is a high-demand candidate for a job. The fact that he explored it and stayed means more than if it never came up.

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Thank you. Wtf is going on with our fan base?

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Not looking for downvotes, but I hear this argument, and I'm a little dumbfounded. Why is he "high-demand"? As we get further into "his guys," we get more mediocre. At least, with the guys that actually stay. Is it from his build-up at Memphis? Age? We're a clean program, so I can see Baylor liking that, given their recent run. I guess I don't get it.

He's a high demand candidate because a high profile program was very interested in hiring him.

I'm dumbfounded that you're dumbfounded. We were 7-6 the two years before he took over. When he did take over, we went 10-3 his first year, including a trip to the ACCCG where we played the eventual national champion better than the Big 10 Champion (11-1 at the time of playing the championship). We lost 42-35. Ohio State lost 31-0.

His second year, we went 9-4.

Then, after losing a bunch of players, some unexpectedly early (at least one of the Edmunds brothers was unexpected, Adonis Alexander to supplemental draft because of academic ineligibility, and Settle), bringing in a transfer to make up for the gaps in talent and experience (Webb, who promptly tore his ACL), had to start true and redshirt freshmen all over the place. Amazingly, other people may understand a year like that in a rebuild.

Now pay VERY CLOSE attention. Baylor was 11-2 in 2013, 11-2 in 2014, and 10-3 in 2015, then 7-6 in 2016. Then they hired Matt Rhule. Do you know what his record was in 2017? 1 and freaking 11. That's right, he won a single game. Yes he was dealing with the aftermath of that rape scandal, but it's still one game (I'd have hated to be Kansas that year). Then he was 7-6 in 2018, then 11-3 in 2019. Before that, Rhule was 2-10, 6-6, 10-4, 10-3 at Temple. His record was 47-43 (.522) with a 1-2 bowl record. And the Carolina Panthers hired him.

I know everybody wants to win. I want to win, but the fact that there hasn't been a new coach at Tech since a lot of people on here were born, I think they seriously underestimate what a rebuild looks like. Yeah, we had a 6-7 season, and yeah, we lost to UVA, but look at the new coaches at Miami and FSU. They ostensibly have money and get great recruits, and wow, their seasons really sucked. I think people don't understand how difficult a rebuild can be sometimes. I'm not saying we should be happy with the past two years, but maybe understand that some pain could be expected with a new coach. When there are down years (and again, we didn't go 2-10 or 1-11), what's the coach doing to change? I like a lot of the changes Fuente made throughout this year and brought on some good coaches at the end of this year.

I dumbfounded that YOU'RE dumbfounded that I'M dumbfounded.

I was an undergrad when Frank WAS the new coach. And he replaced Bill Dooley. So I KNOW from disappointment. I'm well aware of the seasonal records - VT, not Rhule. In my opinion - which is what all this is - seeing Fuente win with "you'rn," but not do well with "his'n," makes me not all that enamored with HCJF. Getting five or six years to right the ship is not done any more, and these last two years have downward in trend. Beat by ODU. Nearly beat by ODU *and* Furman this year - or, the games were FAR closer than they should be. Getting just HOUSED by Duke at home at night. Losing to UVa doesn't bother me, since odds of a tossed coin and all that. But losing to them and UK, as one-dimensional as they were, was not encouraging.

My comment is based on that whole high-demand thing. To ME, high-demand must have a different meaning. I feel like it's being used here as "someone with a low buyout cost" or "we swiped right first on him." I've just been less impressed than other people.

You're using specific losses. Rhule had a 1-11 and 2-10 seasons in 6 years of college coaching and a pro team picked him up. If we'd had a 1-11 season, you wouldn't be picking specific ugly losses. If Fuente hadn't made some of the changes this year and was only returning 3 starters, you're probably (hopefully) think differently of him than you do now.

Dabo Swinney went 4-3, 9-5, 6-7 in his first 3 years. Should Clemson have let him go after that 3rd year because he was trending down? We trended down from year 1, but in year 4, we're trending back up. With 19 starters returning. Year 5 is looking promising, but what if we only win 9 games next year instead of the 10 and the ACCCG but the 2021 class is ranked #15?

The other aspect of high demand has to do with pay. If you want a coach that can win at a very high level and is proven to be able to do that, you'll pay through the nose. Considering what we pay Fuente, the other benefit is that it theoretically wouldn't break the bank considering his current salary.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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Perfectly placed

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There's a lot of not so happy looking faces in that pic

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Hilgart looks lethal!

He's just upset he isn't in the weight room.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Hilgart after you

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This deserves more legs.

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Why do they have to look happy? I don't think I have ever had a picture taken with a room full of men where everyone has their best smile on? For that matter, more of the guys I know prefer to always look unhappy - keeps you guessing.

Crying? There is no crying in Baseball...

Have you ever been in a meeting when someone says, "ok, lets all take a picture!"?

Nope

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I'm glad he's back. This is just business as usual in college football, but we were spoiled for nearly 30 years with Frank/Bud stability.

That said, 2020 is a must-win year. Beat UVA, win the coastal, no trash losses. A win vs Penn State would do wonders.

This is just business as usual in college football, but we were spoiled for nearly 30 years with Frank/Bud stability.

I am shocked by how many fans obviously don't recognize this.

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Additionally, even if he went to interview without first telling Whit, I have to imagine it played out like this:

1.) Baylor makes list of preferred coaches, has Fu as #1
2.) Baylor contacts Fu's agent, tells him, Fu is #1 choice.
3.) Agent tells Fu.
4.) Fu agrees to interview, because, hey, why not listen to what they have to offer.
5.) Fu interviews, but chooses to stay with Tech.

The uproar over not telling Whit is overblown. What percentage of employees tell their boss every time they're going on an interview somewhere else? I'm gonna guess not many.

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Totally agree, BUT given the nature of Fuente's job/industry, he needs to prepare for any PR fallout. He clearly failed to do so.

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You assume he failed to prepare, and also assume that all the PR around it is based in the same vein as what has been posted on TKP.

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Either he failed to prepare or he failed to execute. The tweets from players were pretty bad, that will hurt recruiting.

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Sure, but what would you have realistically expected him to do? Do we as fans expect him to give us a courtesy heads up that he's going to interview somewhere? I don't think that's reasonable

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He (and Whit) should have some plan in place for a leak like this. It shouldn't go 36 hours without being addressed in the media.

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The hysteria has been really surprising to me.

People's expectations are just so out of line for how the coaching world (or really, anywhere) works. Could you imagine if your friends and family acted the way our fanbase just did every time you thought about taking a job with a different company?

It's from people who already don't like Fuente and are looking for an additional thing to bitch about so they don't have to recognize the upcoming year(s) that are primed for great success.

Buzz flirted with aTm for a whole fucking year, yet people would have still been ecstatic if he decided to return to VT. This go around we actually won the battle and people are still pissed. Its all just a matter of perspective and predetermined feelings.

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If you can't see the difference between Buzz cashing in as he took VT through a year where we were pretty much ranked throughout and into the Sweet 16 (would have been more if Nolley was eligible) and Fuente trying to apparently cash whatever he has after finishing in the muck of the worst division in football while getting embarrassed by Duke, losing a 15 year winning streak against his top rival, all a year after an embarrassing loss to Old Dominion, then I don't know what to tell you.

The anger isn't there with Buzz because we all get it. He accomplished what he set out to do here, and leveraged that to one of the better jobs in the sport. With Fuente, the job certainly isn't done, and we haven't even begun to see any of his rebuild pay off. It would feel like abandoning a failed project.

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Actually the Buzz one was more angering to me. Buzz knew for quite a long time that it was a real possibility and still failed to be honest (reportedly) with Whit or the players. That to me is a lot worse than a last minute interview over holiday break where everyone was all over the place. You could make an argument that Fuente should have ignored the offer all together because it was the right thing to do for VT on account of the timing, but that would have been pretty remarkable. I don't think most of us would meet that standard if we were put into that situation. It certainly could have been handled better, but at the end of the day, my impression is that Fuente doesn't care a whole lot about what fans think. That pisses off a lot of fans, but does it matter? We're going to love him if we're winning and hate him if we're losing. The only question is did he compromise his chance of future success with this move. Maybe the players hold a grudge, but I kind of doubt it. Players are allowed to enter the portal, coaches are allowed to interview.

Its also looking like Buzz might have done us a favor by leaving. Mike Young looks capable of taking the foundation he built and taking it to its potential.

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I agree. Both parties got what they wanted. Buzz loves Buzz and he grew his ego with putting the Tech build job on his resume. Tech got proof with the right guy winning basketball is a thing.

Also, Tech then gets a guy (its early but all signs seem positive) who basically says in ever post game presser he loves Tech. I get the feeling he gets more excitement out of building a Virginia Tech program to beat the blue bloods then to go and be a coach for them.

Win/Win.

I think he did us a favor, but not because that was a priority for him.

More because Whit is the man.

Cashing in and moving closer to home is the same damn thing regardless of the season leading up to it. It's naive to think any of this has to do with accomplishing what you set out to accomplish. If the opportunity is there, you take it.

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Buzz didn't do the whole flirtation after the coaching cycle was basically over, though

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Buzz literally planned for months to leave VT for ATM without providing notice to players or administrators. Meanwhile recruited an entire class of players on the VT budget using up all allotted visits knowing there would be NO benefit to VT in the process. Buzz was a snake.

He improved our status as a program and took us to higher heights than we had been to in a long time... but what he did was morally and ethically questionable, I'd say wrong.

Fuente hasn't had the success and so he is easier to be frustrated with, but by all reputable accounts nothing he did was morally or ethically wrong, or I'd say even questionable.

I'm not saying what Brent did was great -- just that if fuente had decided to leave now it would be similarly low for entirely different reasons

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Yea I just disagree that if he had left it would be equally as low... it would be incredibly bad timing, damaging to our 2020 season and recruiting and it would be frustrating... but it never would have been a long term premeditated plan to maliciously damage his current program with the intent of only bettering things for himself moving forward.

you're looking at it forward thinking (what went into making this decision) and i'm looking at it backward thinking (what is the outcome of having made the decision). Also "similarly" and not "equally" -- i think those words are different enough to point out the distinction

one one hand, Brent forced us to hire a coach and put together a recruiting class on the fly ahead of signing day after having used up all of our allowable OVs -- but it was still doable and we were still able to have a coach come in and assemble a staff in the usual hiring cycle. We expected a tough year this year as a result, but felt like Brent at least left the program with "good bones" so to speak.

on the other hand, if fuente left it would mean being the last P5 program left trying to fill a spot (aka, little leverage) and probably mean hiring a G5 HC or someone else further down the list of candidate relative to whom whit would like to hire. it would mean killing the recruiting class we just signed because most would be released. it would mean having to re-hire a lot of the positions we just filled -- again, super late in the cycle. it would mean a lot of those coaches relocating twice in a month. it would mean probably a tepid at best 2021 class due to most of the primary recruiters (especially for offense) being gone. maybe i'm just reading into it too much, but he'd be setting his successor up in almost a no-win situation and we'd probably be doing the carousel thing again after the 2021 or 2022 season. We would expect a tough year, but it also feel like fuente gave up on a failed project.

(light edit for clarity and typos)

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Yea if Fuente had left it would have been catastrophic for the program based on the timing, which is why I am shocked by the number of people who wish he had gone. It almost certainly would have turned out worse than the Buzz to CMY situation has so far. I'm only commenting on the moral character of the two situations. People have been consistently skewering Fuente's character in this situation. I cant fault Fuente for any details in any of the reputable reports that have come out about the Baylor stuff. I do question Buzz's character as a result of the way he left VT. That is why the comparison doesn't fit for me.

This is a good, measured, and reasonable take. have a leg

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Your issue appears to be with the timing, which is completely out of Fuente's control.

This is truly a case of don't hate the player, hate the game.

i said it a few times in a few of the other threads with regards to timing -- CJF did not control the timing of the available position, but he absolutely 100% does control his own availability as a head coaching candidate.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Who is Brent?

Williams, our former basketball coach. Now at aTm

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

How often to HCs go do an interview and then return to the prior job without really addressing it?

I would guess it happens all the time with all the coaching turnover in college football.

This is the second time a VT head coach has done it in the last 20 years. Just because a man is the head football coach at the school you root for doesn't mean he owes you anything, including an explanation. When did VT fans get so entitled?

Tf? I literally asked a question and want an answer. It wasn't rhetorical. No one seems to be answering it with anything other than speculation. I'm not entitled and I don't give a damn what the man does, it's his career. I just want to know if it actually is "business as usual" like I'm seeing.

because it definitely could read like a rhetorical question wherein you were implying that it doesn't happen often

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Then dont jump to conclusions. Most conflict can be avoided that way.

i didn't.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Good. The other guy shouldnt either.

100% of Virginia Tech football head coaches have done it over the last 20 years.

Edit: Took out the flamebait. Sorry for being snappy, I think we're all a little emotional at the moment. Go Hokies!

We will never get a straight answer as to what happened. Buckle up for eight wins and a top 40 class in 2020.

Hopefully he was just getting a free trip to Waco to get his name around Texas a little more. I've taken interviews just to travel places with no intent of actually taking the job. Business is business, now let's get back to work. Recruiting kicks back up tomorrow.

He didn't even go to Waco, Baylor flew into bburg to pitch it.

Not true.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

It's literally been in the paper at this point.

Third Full Paragraph, Roanoke Times:

Representatives from the school flew out to the New River Valley on Wednesday to sit down with Fuente, who for the first time since taking over for Frank Beamer in November of 2015, contemplated a future elsewhere.

Yes thank you for pointing that out after I made the comment 11 hours ago lol.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

tf do you get your info from? also what business flies to the candidate for an interview?

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For a candidate that you are willing to pay millions of dollars and will bring your organization many times that, you do what you have to in order to make them happy and get them with your company/school/team. That being said, all the reports that he went to Waco and his wife went with him.

Didn't VT fly Bud to Memphis to meet with Fuente.

Pretty sure Fuente never stepped foot on campus before getting the job.

Yes,that's the Hokie Bird riding a camel. Why'd you ask?

I don't know anything about the Fuente/Baylor interaction, but to answer your question...

Apparently the Carolina Panthers do. The Panthers owner and general manger were literally sitting in Matt Rhule's driveway waiting for him to return to his house from vacation.

Leonard. Duh.

But what about all those credible sources?

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my favorite thing about all of this has been the people directly comparing the mechanics of P5 coaching changes to the mechanics of leaving for a different mid-level accounting job.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

100

I mean if you aren't using every opportunity to show a bunch of strangers what an insightful business acumen you have then what are you even doing on an internet forum /s

Haahahaha no shit

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

One summer long ago, we rented an un-air conditioned cinder block house at Southern Shores. Temps were 98-100 every dang day and I finally took the flyer from a pretty girl in a bikini to get free stuff just to look at some condo unit up towards Duck. I took a cold shower and dressed up best I could and headed up there just to get the hell out of the heat. I stayed for three hours, lied like a dog, got three free glasses of wine and some cheese and crackers before they finally figured me out. Still got the vouchers for free gasoline and a free meal at a local restaurant. I never felt bad about it one iota, had to do something to escape the heat and it worked. Then, I went back to the group and sweated again, but for a couple of hours, I had escaped to a pretend cool comfortable world.

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I dig your Carl Weathers in Arrested Development vibe!

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LOL this is amazing

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Speaking of Duck, I bought Duck Donuts in Irvine, CA yesterday. They're expanding like crazy!

Well, that's flat out ridiculous. Why don't we have one in Mathews?

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Good. This changes nothing for next season. Better be undefeated in the conference and lighting up the scoreboard in every game.

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WAIT! Hilgart is wearing sleeves! This is fake!

I repeat from the last thread:

This sums up most of my frustrations with Fuente over the last 2 years pretty well.

actually I feel like it would be 100% less awkward if it were bud.

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Everyone looks super excited to be back to work with Fuente...

Meh, so much for getting out of his ridiculous buyout and bringing in some fresh blood on O...

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Man that is an ugly room, no wonder he interviewed /s

(nah but seriously that is kinda pathetic compared to all the big programs)

.pssstt.. that is not our only meeting/conference room in the athletic facilities. The team meeting room does have the fancy leather chairs with VT's on them, etc.

Awesome. Now go win games, and we'll forget any of this ever happened.

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I need some to #addressthemedia

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Alright, Sands. Time to commit.

BINGO, Sands needed a wake up call and it might've happened.

Plot twist!! Whit, Fuente, and Bill were in cahoots the whole time!! (totally kidding, joking, /s, and whatever else needed in case anyone takes that seriously)

I 100% believe that Bill and Whit were in cahoots together.

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Didn't you read the thread? No one went to cahoots! The cahoots came to Blacksburg!

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Do you think the comments by Roth were planned and sent as a "wake up call?"

Anyone have Kills number? If we are expecting a drastic improvement on a team that improved because of kill and now he is gone......we may be in real trouble.

/s ......kinda

just had to get that #TX2VT firsthand experience. That's all.

you know what will cure all of this...WINNING...2020 had better be a big year now!

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Vance Vice in that pic:

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Putting my photographer hat on...taking group shots, especially in this type of setting is going to get a lot of different expressions. A number of people are also not photogenic and will run when they see me show up with a camera.

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If Coach Vice mustered up his best smile for his Hokiesports headshot then I wouldn't read too much into his facial expressions.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Vice looks like someone just told him an off-color joke he wasn't amused by

Nah man that is golf ball sized wad of chew in the left cheek.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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yeah Let's all go to Baylor

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imaging coming into work and your boss says "he guys everyone squeeze in tight! gotta take a picture for my social media to try and pretend like I FREAKING LOVE WORKING HERE and working with all your guys!" and looking at your boss like, ummmm we have this meeting every morning nowwwwwww we trying to take pics.

this ish is as fake as it comes. I really try to support Fuente sometimes but got danggg man stop doing shit for damage control all the time and start getting ahead of things. Fuente isn't a bad dude, and he actually has personality and is fun and enjoyable to talk to in a personal setting but he lacks the ability and understand of being engaging. to a fan base and programs that identity is #ThisIsHome don't come into my home NOT talk to me, hang out with me, joke with me, enjoy yourself with me, but then later you post a selfie with me and all my friends in the back ground having a good time and in the caption say "had a blast with the fam"! we didn't even know you were there homie!!!!

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Seeing as he's got the full staff in for a meeting, I'd assume the whole 'Baylor thing' may be somewhere on the itinerary.

I mean this isn't any different than any other staff meeting they've had. (which they have EVERY morning during the season I'm not sure about the off season schedule)

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I doubt Fuente was the one to even suggest the picture. The dude is typically a ghost on social media.

even worse? lol. he fu get everyone together for a pic. I need to alert the world that you are still here. if someone else took the pic, that means someone else is responsible for his lack of public relations evolvement and that person should be fired immediately

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Ryan Smith looks like a chill dude. Always seems to have that very genuine good mood smile on his face.

Who is the guy in the black sweatshirt beside Fuente?

Pete Morris... PR guy... ex NFL PR guy... Buddy of Whit....

Looks like Kev Cristello Football Ops, nice guy.

Pete was probably the one that suggested the photo and is taking the picture.

That's definitely not Pete ...

All I see is a dude who is motivated by his next potential job opportunity.

yeah I agree Jham def looks ready to be the next head coach

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Honestly, best outcome as far as the immediate future goes. Would have been devastating to watch coaches potentially lose jobs they've held for a month to one day (R. Smith), key players potentially leave, recruits request release from LOI's.

Time to really prove it now Fuente, and hopefully this elaborate play (it seems) for increased backing and resources will work.

I'm very happy he's staying because we are set up for a good season next year and the ramifications of losing a coach at this time of the year would have been devastating.

That said, if he gets ANYTHING less than 10 regular season wins in 2020 and an ACCCG appearance with the team he has in place he should be shown the door after this. He's had enough time to get his team and staff in place, the young players we excused for the terrible 2018 are all upperclassmen with plenty of experience, and his buyout should be less. It's time for results and nothing else.

I think firing our coach for only winning 9 games is stupid.

I'll give you nine wins, but winning the Coastal and beating UVA are mandatory. If he fails at either of those, he's out. I said this before the Baylor thingy and I will continue to say it until I change my mind.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

I think a lot of people felt like 2020 was a put up or shut up year for Fuente, even before Baylor happened. The Interview (I'm capitalizing it now, lol) just cost him any slack for 2020 in the eyes of a lot of people who might have given him some before.

#VT2TX2VT

Touchdown Tech!!!

#HARD.SMART.TOUGH

#NBA

And new for 2020... #Justkidding!

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Ok.

“Who is this Fuentes person that you speak about?” -McHokie540

Cups half full: Fuente successfully parlays this episode into more resources for the football program AND successfully conveys that to the coaches, players, and recruits. We have a good football season and make it to the ACC championship, and finished the season ranked. The new coaches turn out to be capable recruiters and bring new energy to that side of the program.

Cups half empty: whether Fuente is actually looking at other opportunities or not, he is unsuccessful in convincing others that he is committed. The team doesn't fully buy in and we have a repeat of the 2018 season where some players check out mentally and we start to get higher attrition. This causes problems from the coaches room to the major donors and everywhere in between. Fuente has a downward trajectory over the next couple seasons and abandons ship, or is fired. The program has to hit the reset button completely.

Cup is twice as big as it needs to be: we get some sort of weird mixture of both results. The team is good but doesn't max out it's full potential. The locker gels but not 100%. We lose some recruits we would have gotten but keep others. We make it to the ACC championship game but get blown the fuck out leaving everybody wondering where we go from there.

The cup is made of diarrhea: Fuente pulls a Lane Kiffin first chance he gets and disappears one foggy night leaving a lot of questions but few answers. Resurfaces in a far away state and begins to openly criticize VT and Whit. Does well at his new school, and we end up hiring Rich Rod only for UVA to start a winning streak against us.

Your third option is basically 2019 UVA.

Well this has a 8-5 or less season written all over it.

Shibes with the yuuuge lip in

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

At the end of the day he turned down more money and resources to stay here. Say what you want about him, but that to me says he believes in what he is building.

Now let's move on and win some football games.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Exactly how did you land on the narrative that he turned down an offer from Baylor? Isn't it an extremely high chance that Baylor just decided to go in a different direction and didn't offer him?

Its hard to just move on when he's seriously damaged his credibility and even further, damaged his ability to recruit... oddly at the time it was beginning to finally trend upward...

He's only damaged his credibility with Internet message board posters. Any gossip about this hurting recruiting is based on the fact that you're mad at Fuente and want there to be negative consequences for what happened the last 2 days.

If a recruit says he didn't come to tech because Fuente interviewed with Baylor, then I'll believe it, otherwise it's just grown adults acting like whiny little kids online.

So, he was offered and turned it down? Sorry, but rule number one in these things is don't take the meeting if you don't plan to take the job. I highly doubt he was offered and was like "just kidding, I'd rather get paid half the number you just quoted me to go back to a potentially toxic situation with a room full of coaches and an AD whose trust I may have lost".

The photo is a bad attempt at damage control. And to make it worse, the only effective damage control - 10 wins, Coastal title, ACCCG berth, Orange Bowl or better - is 10-11 months away.

I'm sure we'll all be very normal and cool between now and then. 😬

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Thats a terrible business approach. You literally are never supposed to turn down an opportunity without hearing the pitch. Then you make the best decision for you.

Gobble Till You Wobble

I'm talking optics.

This is going to be incredibly hard to walk back from a PR/recruiting standpoint, which is already not a strong suit for JF.

I'm saying, if a Baylor comes calling, I have no problem with Fuente listening. Way of the world. Shoot your shot. But you'd better not miss. That's all.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

If he stood in front of a podium and said something along the lines of: "I had an opportunity to potentially improve the lives of my wife and kids(more money), be closer to home and keep doing I job I love. I went down there listened to what they had to say and in the end it didn't feel like a good move. I'm happy here in Blacksburg. "

I would 100% accept that and move on, so should the players, so should most of the fans. I doubt he will stand up there and say that but oh well. We would all have done the same thing in his position. A raise of a few mil a year is nothing to turn your nose up at.

Something tells me he won't even bother addressing it. "I'm the head coach of the Virginia Tech Football team and that's all that matters" type thing.

Something tells me that it won't matter one iota for anyone if he says anything about it or not.

Not for us, but the staff damn well better have a cohesive communications plan for the recruiting trail.

"Fuente interviewed for Baylor. He didn't pursue them, they pursued him. He's have been a fool not to talk to them, since it was close to where he was from and they offered more money. But he chose to stay at VT because he believes what he's doing here. This is home."

Now how fricking hard was that? Took me the time it took to type it.

He also needs the same cohesive communications to the staff. But the thing that speaks loudest is that he had the opportunity, but chose to stay.

Yesterday, it was what everyone on this site wanted.

You probably turn it down if you don't want the noise/distraction of going to the pitch to impact your current job. This news has definitely impacted his current job and his ability to connect with recruits, current players, and the fans/alumni/donors going forward. Why go through that if you know you don't want the job?

Because maybe you don't know if you want the job or not until you hear the pitch.

And secondly, none of us know how this affect his ability to connect with recruits or current players.

2020 - Just win

Hilgert looks stoked to take this pic

I realize I'm saying this on a fan site, but if Fuente left or stayed, would your life change in any really significant way?

Also, is that the Ron Swanson Pyramid of Greatness on the whiteboard?

I think it would have set vt football back further - which would affect me negatively every Saturday I watch them. (More losing). I think Fuente is a good coach. He has 2020 to shine - if he can't get it done next year then adios.

"I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising..." - KP

It's up to each individual to define 'significant', but for me the sun would still come up the next day, I have my family, my health, my friends, my job, etc. Sports, while I love them, do not really alter my life one way or the other.

Whoa, I don't think mature, well adjusted adults are allowed on the Internet. You gotta go, man... /s

I feel like a lot of us are jumping off the deep end without knowing almost any facts. I think a little bit of this can be on us for overracting to a coach possibly taking an interview. Just a thought.

Also hot take on all this, it looks like our coach might have been offered more money at a school with a bigger budget that just came off of a season where they went to the Sugar Bowl and decided na I'd rather be at Tech. Maybe we should take that as a positive. And maybe we shouldn't drag him and the facilities on a twitter account all the players and recruits follow when we know we are literally in the process of building brand new offices and meeting rooms.

Gobble Till You Wobble

#RespectMyDecision

#ThisIsHome(fornow)

Glad Tech isn't on a hunt for a new head coach. We fans were spoiled by FB and his 29 years.
However if Fuente and staff have a bad year this season we will be looking for a new head man.

But we will be conducting the search on our timetable. Whit will have the initiative.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

So at the end of the day, the people who shit all over Fuente will still shit all over Fuente, the people who defend Fuente will still defend Fuente, the Negative Nancy's will continue to predict that the end is nigh and the Positive Pats will be sure we're so close to breaking through.

People and their sources will continue to prove to be bullshit while others will seem to actually know a thing or two.

People still insult each other's intelligence when others see things in a different light and others will latch on to any unverified tidbit of info that furthers what they think the situation is.

Meanwhile Mike Young is being crowned as the next Frank after half a season by some of the same folks who blew an o-ring when he was hired and round and round it goes.

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

So at the end of the day, the people who shit all over Fuente will still shit all over Fuente, the people who defend Fuente will still defend Fuente, the Negative Nancy's will continue to predict that the end is nigh and the Positive Pats will be sure we're so close to breaking through.

People and their sources will continue to prove to be bullshit while others will seem to actually know a thing or two.

People still insult each other's intelligence when others see things in a different light and others will latch on to any unverified tidbit of info that furthers what they think the situation is.

I think you just described this country and politics in a nutshell.

Wait, is "Positive Pats" a real thing? This may be the only useful thing I've learned on this site over the past 24 hours.

We didn't start the fire.

I heard this coach that used to say something like "The highs are never as high as you think, and the lows are never as low." What was that guy's name?

Wait, what?

We didn't start the fire.

There are two kinds of people in this world. People that think you are always wrong. And people that think they are always right.

You just described every sports message board that has ever existed and will ever exist until the heat death of the universe.

We really need to chill out. If interviewing without telling the AD should get you fired then Beamer's entire staff should have been fired 20 years ago.

I'm glad that he's back, mainly because the timing on this sucked, and if we had to go through it, I'd much rather it be in November than January.

That said, this stunt painted a bulls-eye on his chest when it comes to the fanbase. 2020 just became the most important season of his career, because anything less than noticeable, tangible improvements on the field, including but not limited to a win over UVa and a Coastal title probably isn't going to cut it after these events.

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Like he didn't already have a bulls-eye on his chest from the doubters here.

We hear about it every freaking day.

When we heard he was interviewing, suddenly some of those folks seemed to be believers, or at least they were even madder than usual.

For me, it's not exclusively the timing. I think Fuente is good for VT. We'll find out for sure over the next couple of years. He's certainly better that some alternatives.

Oh trust me, nobody is surprised that your faith in him never wavered

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And nobody is surprised at the folks who were saying "He'll never be able to coach in this town again" after there were rumors that he might be interviewing.

There are sources Yahoo news confirming that, yes, no one is surprised that they were the leading candidates to say such things.

Hokie Club member since 2017

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Ok...someone said yesterday that this account is Coach Fuente's wife or Cornelsen....im leaning Coach Fu's wife..

How did you like Waco? :)

I'm pretty sure whoever said that was someone's jealous mother-in-law.

Oh, but it will cut it. If he got some sort of additional commitment to resources from VT out of this Baylor situation, then it buys him even more time. It's a win-win situation for him. If things somehow do click and we have a great season, everyone wins. If we are in 8 win territory again (spoiler: I think this is the more likely outcome), he has built in excuses that the new defensive staff needs time to gel, and the new resources are helping them get the recruits they need. Things will be on the rise and looking up at VT! A storm is brewing (again). He knows that if he does just enough, barring a complete collapse, there won't be enough support to eat the buyout. So it either clicks for him and he looks like a hero, or he buys himself enough time to get a few more years of salary from VT and get out of town to a new job (cough TCU) before the buyout is low enough to move on. He's handling this contract situation beautifully. The sad thing is our football program is going to be the casualty here.

A lot of pissed off ppl the last few days and rightfully so, but this is the best case scenario for VT IMO. Even though I think this was kind of a scumy move, business is business and finding a new coach and staff at this point would've been a nightmare.

I believe I predicted this yesterday. No sources. But it makes a lot more sense. He's been working on his project in Blacksburg for 4 years already. I want him to see it through and has some faith that it's going to work out.

I'm happy he stayed, but sad we're not going to get to hear French's story about Devyn Ford.

Plot Twist: The threat of that story being written is what kept Fuente in Blacksburg

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I'm embarrassed to say this was the first thing I thought of when I saw the tweet this morning from Fuente insinuating he wasn't leaving.

I must have missed this reference in the 1000 comment post. Can you explain?

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

I will summarize since the 1000 comment thread will take until Fuente is no longer the coach to load.

French made a comment about some doubts ever since the Devyn Ford/Quinn Carroll Spring game debacle. When asked, he said he would spill if Fuente was no longer the coach since it was just something he experienced that didn't sit well with him and he didn't want to stir things up about Fuente.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

This is the best possible outcome. Wait to see if there is any negative fallout. If handled correctly, it can all blow over.

"I am probably too rational to be here"

Win 10 games, win the coastal, and sign a top 20 class - this will all go away.

Twitter me

If we do well, the casual haters will quiet down (the hardcore haters will never forgive him for ODU no matter what he does) and the Fuente lovers will crow. If we go 6-6, the haters will crow and the Fuente lovers will make excuses and point to next year. Rinse and repeat until Fuente either retires or leaves/is fired. Then the next coach will be the savior to some and not good enough to others. etc. etc. etc...

Even Saint Beamer and Saint Foster weren't exempt from this treatment. I saw threads on TSL about firing Beamer and Foster after the 2003 season. Beamer was "past his prime" and opposing coaches had "figured out Foster's scheme" and they were incapable of rescuing VT from (stop me if this sounds familiar) 7 or 8 win mediocrity and middle of the pack conference finishes until the end of time. Then we started winning and most of the haters calmed down (but not all, including some long-winded diatribes about how pointing to the streak of 10-win seasons was Beamer trying to avoid responsibility for not winning the big one).

What will his buyout from us drop to after this year? Asking for a friend

"These people are losing their minds" - Mike Patrick

Is that Wiles second from right? If not, who is it?

Shibest, special teams coordinator and TE coach

"These people are losing their minds" - Mike Patrick

I really don't care either way... stay or leave. I just want to see the defense kill people and break things again.

Leonard. Duh.

We need a bigger conference room.

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Nobody wins in this scenario.

1) If Fuente did this to get more resources for the program, enough people can read the tea leaves to draw that conclusion. It makes the AD look cheap (as if Wiles getting a huge raise at NC State doesn't already) and not focused on football. Bad optics.

2) The fan base was already unhappy. The lack of communication and general anti-access tenor of the engagement between the program and the fan base only works if you are winning. The results are mediocre, which is not good enough to behave that way. Also, if resources are an issue, it only highlights that his personality isn't dynamic enough to be the closer on the trail that is needed when under-armed.

3) When your messaging is family, home, loyalty and toughness, this doesn't resonate with at least some of the players. Casey Stengel once said "40% of your players love you. 40% of your players hate you. The key is to keep the 20% who are undecided from listening to the 40% that hate you." If there are unhappy players, this is gas on the fire.

4) While more resources are good short term, the reality is that the athletic department looks bad. And people who make decisions don't like being made to look bad. Every year that buyout goes down, Fuente's seat gets hotter unless he is producing close to Clemson level results. And, while I think he is a solid coach and a really good offensive mind, his shortcomings (lack of a dynamic personality which resonates with recruits, willingness to let buddies who haven't met expectations have decision-making power when the results aren't up to par over a long period of time, awkward engagement with a fan base that desperately wants to be courted) make it unlikely that he will ever turn that corner. Winning the Coastal probably isn't enough at this point. I would be stunned if this freshman incoming class has Justin Fuente has a head coach when they graduate. And that means the team isn't winning like we all want them to.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

3) When your messaging is family, home, loyalty and toughness, this doesn't resonate with at least some of the players. Casey Stengel once said "40% of your players love you. 40% of your players hate you. The key is to keep the 20% who are undecided from listening to the 40% that hate you." If there are unhappy players, this is gas on the fire.

You know the high school coaches who were already annoyed over how he handled the Capehart situation a couple years back are looking at this with a curious eye right now. If you're going to pull offers for recruits when that recruit visits another school late in the recruiting game, you just don't pull this kind of stuff late in the coaching circuit. Makes you look like a massive hypocrite, and when you're selling yourself to players, coaches, and family, you don't want to have a reputation of being a hypocrite.

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He has absolutely let committed recruits and players off the hook for visiting other places. Capehart directly lied about it if I remember correctly. I'm still waiting on more details here, but we know he told players not to believe anything they hear from outside sources and he isn't gone, so hard to believe he lied unless he specifically told players he would never interview at another school which would be a silly promise to make.

"I am probably too rational to be here"

I agree with the vast majority of this.

But...as a gamble, and IF the increased monetary resources translate to success on the field and success on the recruiting trail then all of this will not only be forgiven, but it will be viewed as a historic program changing maneuver. That is a BIG IF though. It's a big gamble, and I have no idea whether or not it will work, but what I do know is that if we see results from this, and see them relatively quickly, fans are fickle enough to forget how angry they were in the first place.

If he stays and puts heat on the school to get more resources and it doesn't go public, this is a win. But, it being out in the open completely changes a lot of things.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

The problem with Sands is he's all about public perception. He doesn't give a fat rat's ass about things if he has no fear of being made to look bad.

This.

Sands wants Tech to become a big school. A "big" school doesn't short change one of their biggest marketing routes. That is bad optics and a small school move. This totally could have made Sands open the pocket book.

The actual reality is that, based on our athletic funding numbers relative to P5 "blue bloods", the heat should be on the school 24/7. It's unfortunately an arms race, and even more unfortunately it is a race that will unlikely never end. So if Fuente or other coaches in athletics are sitting back saying "Yep, Whit, we've got exactly the resources we need", then we're going to (more than likely) fail to compete consistently. But I have full confidence that Whit is on top that regardless of what Fuente is saying to him.

The only way for an arms race to end is for the system to collapse.

Using literal arms races as an example, the dreadnought arms race of the early 20th century only ended after World War I, when owning a fleet of those sizes were impossible to maintain in peacetime. The nuclear/ballistic missile arms race that dominated the cold war only ended when it no longer became feasible for one side to continue to stockpile them.

The college football arms race will end under one of two circumstances: Enough of the right teams get priced out of competitiveness (Nuclear missiles), or funding stops and cost cutting measures take effect (Dreadnoughts). Either instance will bring about the collapse of the current system.

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Great Post French, but I'm still curious to know about that situation at the spring game you mentioned...

I'm not sure why people are hating on those who think this whole deal was bad from the start.

For beginners, I'm all for a guy getting closer to home, advancing in his career, etc., etc. But Fuente's tenure has been full of moments where the optic has been bad. For some reason he can't seem to get out in front of things with the public (this is important when public perception is important for support), with players (at times it has seemed this way) and with recruits and high school coaches (rumblings about these things continue). For me its more about the constant drama and (seeming - I don't know if it actually exists) toxicity that seems to always be around.

Color me meh about the whole thing right now.

Is it basketball season yet?

I wonder how often this happens without any leaks and nobody knows about it.

I can write Fuente's press conference if he wants. "My agent was approached by Baylor U and was told I needed to spend an afternoon with them because they had an offer I couldn't refuse. I am familiar with the area, so while I was annoyed with the timing, my wife and I thought we would be doing a disservice to our family if we didn't hear them out. The administration treated us great. But, as I told them, Blacksburg is my home now and I have started something there that is going to be special. Go Hokies!"

"I am probably too rational to be here"

Yes, but Fuente will be short and vague next time he talks to press about this. And when pressed, he will deflect. Almost everything about his four years could have been received much better by press and fan base if he was just willing to play to the media. Just face them, be open/honest, have a little charisma, engage with them.

Well yeah why else would I offer to help him write it. I don't think he even needs to necessarily have a press conference. Just provide the statement.

"I am probably too rational to be here"

"Gah, listen, all that swirl, that was you guys, alright? Listen, it's a private matter and I've spoken with Whit, the staff and the players and we're all ready to move forward. We're looking forward to getting to work in the spring and the 2020 season."

if baylor flew to bburg to pitch fuente and he wasn't willing to listen i would be concerned honestly

Can't wait for the Camping World Bowl against Baylor next season.

Many on this site on hearing about the coaching changes not including Corny getting fired

Many on this site on hearing that some other school might be interested in our HC and he would take an interview

Many on this site after hearing that our HC is staying

VT football fans...lost without stability of 00's VT football.

Hey, we were totally able to yell about firing coaches in the 00's. Give us some credit.

LOL, I just posted about that above. If TKPing had been possible in 2000 after Beamer-to-UNC almost happened and late 2003/early 2004 when we sucked at football, results would likely have been about the same. Beamer/Foster would get a lot more slack, as they should, than Fuente but haters gonna hate no matter what. And in all fairness, shit looked bleak in the second half of 2003 when our defense couldn't stop anyone up the middle and our whole offense was Kevin Jones. Our second coming QB got suspended for boning an underage girl and there was every possibility we were going to go to the ACC and get absolutely hammered every week. And after we gave up 10 sacks to NC State, it looked like we were circling the drain.

Is 2020 going to end up like 2004 and spark a VT resurgence? Or is it going to be the validation of people's opinions that Fuente can't hack it? Only time will tell...

At some point in the last few years I went to bed and this joint turned into Hokie Haven overnight.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

That is a WIDE range of emotions.

I've literally got a whole theory on what I think played out, but I'll spare you guys.

My take: this is the best option, for now, and I'm glad that he's decided to stay. It brings much needed stability. I still think he has much to prove this coming year, especially with the kind of experience we'll have. Hope he knocks this shit out the park.

It's the end result that's going to matter.

I pretty much agree with your summary.

The last couple days has been something else

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After eating my sandwich and thinking it over, I would like to announce that I am still 💯% committed to being a University of Virginia Tech fan.

Respect my decision.

“Who is this Fuentes person that you speak about?” -McHokie540

That's not 800%😯

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Bullshit. My phone battery is 80%. That's practically 800%.

“Who is this Fuentes person that you speak about?” -McHokie540

So how awkward is it now; ESPN anchors and former players openly endorsing S Beamer as HC for VT now that fuente is staying?

Just because Fuente is here doesn't mean the Shane Train can't pull into town

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We bak !!!!!

"2020 - Let's go!"
A picture is worth 1,000 words.

RE: the subtitle, "A picture is worth 1,000 words comments". FIFY, Joe.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Well that was a lot of nothing. If social media didn't exist not much would have come of this. Coaching is a job and how many on this site have been approached by some one about another job with better pay. You may not have been looking but listened to what was being offered.
Now back to basketball until spring practice.

If social media didn't exist not much would have come of this

Facebook was launched in 2004 and Twitter was launched in 2006.

"if social media didn't exist....." is no longer a valid excuse for the reaction to events going sideways.

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...is no longer a valid excuse for a sideways reactions to events that have occurred for decades.
Spiffied that up for you.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Andy Bitter confirming Fuente never visited Baylor and informed Babcock of their interest on Tuesday... Someone feel free to link that tweet for me. Can't pull it up at work.

Gobble Till You Wobble

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So, as it turns out, Whit and Fuente both acted in a professional manner. Huh.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Let's Go

HOKIES

Damn it I just posted a whole thread in these tweets! Good shit. Take down it un warranted.

There are wolves and there are sheep, I am the sheep dog

How dare Fuente let Whit handle the press conference when he knows all the fans what to hear it from his mouth. We'd better all email Whit and tell him what should be on CJF's objectives this year!

/s (in case that wasn't clear)

A lot sources/media guys got their info wrong then causing this shitstorm of speculation

If you want level-headed opinions, don't go on a message board or sports forums

Wow, that never happens.

I would love to hear from Fuente on this but I won't hold my breath. Honestly I care more about his ability to pull together his staff, all his now, and the players and win. I blindly hoped that Fuente would be a long time hire, 10 years, but now know he won't be. What matters now is that we rally that much harder behind our school and team for this next season. I am proud to see the passion that everyone has for our football team. When we get the talent level to match that passion we will be unstoppable. Go Hokies!

VTMidge

Let's Go

HOKIES

Whew, now we can get back to normal off season stuff like what albums do you like and trading pasta recipes.

Andy Bitter confirming Fuente never visited Baylor

But ....but I saw the plane leave B'burg for Waco on Flight Radar!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Hokies! (Responding to thread title)

#Let's Go - Hokies

How I imagine Fuente's interview with Baylor ended.

Baylor: "Great, just a few more questions: if you were going to build an all star coaching staff here at Baylor who would be your first three hires?"

Fuente: "Well, I'll be bringing my offensive coordinator, Brad Cornel..."

Baylor: "We're going to stop you right there. Thank you for your interest in Baylor. We'll reach out to you if we find a role we think will fit you. Have a nice day"

Fuente:???

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?