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I think you beat me by 5 minutes. My download speed is so slow I started a new thread. If I'd not been so wordy (surprise), we'd likely have tied. Good going and thanks.
Too windy to fish here today. Flags standing straight out and whitecaps on the river. I really wanted to fish today, too.
By the way, I went back and tried to delete my starting of the thread right after posting it and I couldn't figure out how to, but then it just disappeared. Hopefully a moderator did it for me. If so, thanks.
Either way, I guess I'm drinkin'.

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Hit a killer bass pond yesterday and to our surprise they were just starting to spawn. Killer horny toad and frog fishing had a couple big acrobatic airborne takes that made it even better. Nothing beats a 3 or 4 pounder going airborne to annihilate a frog at dusk. Ended up with 9 fish over 3 pounds and a bunch more around 2.

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Put in some major scouting hours this weekend. Lost a couple stud trout yak side. Got a 17" in the boat and a handful of 15" stripers that pull very similiarly to a 20+" trout. 4" Diesel Minnowz were the ticket.

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What weight head and color minnowz are yall using I'd imagine it was a bit murky this weekend.

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1/4 ounce, I was in 8-10 feet of water. Slow steady retrieve. Using pinfish and purple death

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I love the pinfish pattern but never pitched it up here in VA I always thought it would be more southern clearer water stuff but neat to hear it works up here as well. I've been putting it off going to restock the zman and bass assassin supply but I may have to wander into basspro this week.

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The water I was fishing wasn't particularly clear either maybe a foot of visibility. I did have saltwater inshore procure in the belly cavity. My buddy really likes the doa cal shad tail in texas croaker and figi chicken.

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I have heard procure mentioned alot since I started listening to alot of inshore podcasts is it really worth it? Tempted to try it but I have never used a scent before on anything and still snag a few.

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It will last you a good while if you get a bottle. It can't hurt in my opinion. It can only increase your odds. There is a reason gulp catches lots of fish.

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I believe strongly in using scent, hence my affection for Gulp products. I have had it proven to me first hand and time after time that scent can make a big difference in tough conditions, like cold and stained water on a river like the New for just one example. I know saltwater is different, but unless the bite is reliable and heavy, I believe scent can help noticeably. I routinely do better on Gulp when flounder fishing than anything else I or anyone in my boat is using. Fish, as you know, are endowed with a bodacious scenting mechanism and if the scent used does no more than mask your human scents, it can be useful. Did you put on sunscreen? Wash your hands? If you did, did you scratch your nose or anything? Touch a battery cable or anything near a motor? Fishes can smell it. They sell a lot of that stuff for a reason, and it isn't guys (or gals) falling for a marketing ploy. I'll take every edge I can get.

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Good point you brought up fish. One of the guys on Eastern Current podcast uses procure purely based on getting rid of the plastic scent that naturally happens when lures are made.

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Might be a dumb question but how do you all apply it? Squirt some in each bag of baits or spray on individually?

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It's a thick gel that you apply directly to the lure.

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And it stays. You don't have to reapply. If you don't trust it just put some on a bait and leave it in water it'll still be on the bait days later.

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sounds good thanks for the intel guys I bought some spray crap years ago that leaked and just made shit messy and it didnt last so never thought I'd try that again but if its a little bit better I'll give it a go and pick some up next time im in Bass Pro or online. You guys use the super gel stuff I assume?

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I have a bottle of Pro Cure in the Menhaden scent. It is a gel. Have heard good things about shrimp flavor as well.

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Yes I use the Inshore Supergel. Couldn't decide on a flavor...its basically a mix of every flavor.

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Yep, that was my thought as well.

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'Nator, there are no dumb questions except the ones you don't ask.

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In the 80s, I bought a bottle of sunscreen from Bass Pro that was advertised as being able to also mask scent for fishermen. I never wore sunscreen in those dumber days, but I kept that bottle for years and used it on my hands after hooking up my electric battery when I was a canoe fisherman. As a sunscreen, it would have been horrid. Smelled really funky, but as a cover up, it worked just fine.

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Man up and start showering in menhaden oil.

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You're a deer hunter, right? Use any scent? Any scent blocking techniques for you and your hunting clothing? Same same.

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I've had the same $7 bottle for like 2 years. A little goes a long way

Though not seemingly as prevalent as further south, there are plenty of pinfish around here. I catch several every year.

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Went to the parent's property in Madison this weekend. Gorgeous both days. Signs that had been posted at the Rose River entrance to the SNP had been ripped down. Two cars parked there. I debated hiking in to fish but instead went back down and fished the last bridge over the Rose, along with a family of 4 chucking worms and two other people spin fishing. The water was higher than I've ever seen it but still clear. Tons of stoneflies coming off. Not a fish to be had. I tried a few of my holes at the low water bridge, which is closed due to high water, and zilch there too. Oh well, water must be too much for the brookies to eat dry flies. As I was packing it in a Park Ranger drove on by heading up to the park entrance, I assume to look for people tresspassing on public land.

Sunday, I rode the dual sport up the Rapidan access rode but didn't go into SNP. Instead took the fire road along the park boundary. I covered at least 60 miles round trip, over half on the trail. It went from Syria to Madison and somewhere along the way was behind the mountain we can see from my parent's property. Gorgeous drive and got some much needed riding in. Damn I miss riding dirt bikes often. Saw a bobcat in the middle of the trail in the middle of the afternoon. Cool looking animal, my first sighting.

Today I met up with Hokienator for a drug deal in the Greentop Parking lot. He got some of the really good product. Nice to finally put a screen name to a face. Hopefully we will fish soon.

If anyone is interested in some fancy earrings for their better half, I'm doing a giveaway on one of my Instagram pages, @prettyflydesigns_. Feel free to enter.

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Yes, the world is coming to an end when a fishing guide has to resort to making earrings to survive. But I don't care, chicks LOVE them.

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If anybody needs something decorative for the SO couldnt reccomend getting flyguy to tie stuff for ya enough. It was definitely nice to get to meet more people from here. Hopefully this corona crap will fade off so we can all do the TKP tourney this summer.

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Madison is an awesome place. My favorite stream is around there. Good brown/brook populations

Sounds like a fun time just exploring and riding around. However you can get money to keep fishing and not do the day job deal is what matters.

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Ken Penrod insists that his guides have a day job. He said it is too difficult to make enough money as an individual guide to pay the bills, resulting in too much turnover in his well established outfitting service. Penrod is an exception to the usual guide, having built a mini-empire of outdoors activity and is sponsored by numerous big fishing supply companies. He gets a free truck, free boat and motor, rods and reels, etc., for his endorsements and does way better than most guides. His formula for success is building a business then hiring employees and branching out. That was the last thing I wanted to do, especially since I started guiding late in life.
Having always lived on the cheap, I was able to make it individually, but it didn't make for much more than enough to live on. But damn, while it ain't a great living, it's a helluva great job, and it made it easier to afford higher dollar gear and a damn fine river raft.

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I think Johnny cash sang a song about that a while ago somoething like Satisfied Mind.

Being a guide would be the excuse needed to get a nicer boat and all the tackle to your hearts content as well.

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Being a guide would be the excuse needed to get a nicer boat and all the tackle to your hearts content as well.

It is. Out in my office I can't think of a better way to get paid. On the flip side, it also makes me question my sanity and look hard at my anxiety every damn day. I'll figure it out though

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However you can get money to keep fishing and not do the day job deal is what matters.

So who wants to start the "Keep FlyGuy's Guiding Dream Alive" donation jar going? If you donate enough $$$, you get a free fishing trip out of it haha.

Frankly, these days I'm having more fun tying earrings than I am flies. I get a lot more attention for it and I am an attention whore. The profit margins are much better as well.

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Haha that takes out of my retire early jar. Props for realizing it hope you can grow that and keep you afloat easier.

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Next time you're in my neck of the woods I would have no problem paying your guide rate plus a little for a day of fishing. Not exactly profitable considering trip costs, but it'll offset some at the very least.

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Thank you, I really, really appreciate it.

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I'll be ordering some earrings here shortly just trying to get a better idea of which ones she likes which as we all know can be a chore.

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Thanks dude, I appeciate it.

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I took the kayak out for the first time this past weekend to Lake Chesdin. I caught one small largemouth and a green sunfish so I didn't get skunked. I talked to a few people at the launch and it seemed that no one had much luck on the day though. The kayak did well but I will need to figure out/make some mods to it so it is better suited to my personal wants.

Going to try my hand around Seaford (just moved two weeks ago) this weekend if weather permits. Anyone got a report from those parts?

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No, but if you chum and fish big live baits around the edge of the York River channel you should find cobia soon.

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Yes, that's one of my favorite areas. Put in at back creek park (very nice ramp)- and head out to goodwin islands. Great place to start.

Negatory report from the Mobjack area for me yesterday. Three rays and one 15" striper was all I could muster. Rays were so thick I hit them with my skeg at least three times, water so low you could see them flipping in the shallows all 'round. Chilling down this weekend, but hopefully that will rebound next week.

This was to be our third annual Old Hokies surf fishing week, something I looked forward to all year. I wouldn't wish this virus shit on West Virginia or even UVAnus.

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Least you got one striper to make it interesting. Our trip to florida got canned as well so I'll have to wait till next year to fish the florida beaches. Looks like a trip to the mobjack for a couple day retreat is on the books in the upcoming weeks whenever I can get away for a little.

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Really sorry you had to bag the trip. I know how much you guys were looking forward to it. What a year to get married, huh?
When you find yourself free, let me know and I'll take you and the soon to be Mrs. out for a run around. Maybe the fish will show by then.

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Thank ya fish I'll definitely come take a trip sometime in the next few months. Looking at maybe running to Ocracoke as a micro fishing trip in the next three weeks hoping the fishing might be getting good in the sound or surf. Either that or I'll run the Mrs to back Bay area to go shelling and fishing for a day or two.

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I was supposed to go catfishing on the Potomac this weekend to celebrate my birthday. Replace two rear tires, a check engine, and then one of the two remaining old tires went flat today. Hopefully heading back tomorrow.

Also, sounds like charter guys can legally fish on May 15 in Virginia. Of course, there are hoops to jump through. Here are the rules:

https://mrc.virginia.gov/Notices/2020/VA-CFH-Fisheries-reopen-criteria_F...

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Edit: Sorry for the rant, I am at the end of my rope for being told what to do for my best interests by some jackass beauracrats in an office in Richmond.

Hope you had a good birthday French!

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Good luck, French. I know you're anxious to get back home.

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thinking I may head out next weekend between Poquoson/York river to give it a shot.

Fished the Dry River in George Washington Natl Forest yesterday with guide friend Kevin Whitfield.

The brookies complied. Great to get out there. Stayed at my buddys cabin in Luray last night and watched a black bear cub swim across the Shenandoah River. No sign of momma. Super cool

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Well, had the yak out for around 6 hours this morning. The forecast as of last night: 4-8mph winds, hot as shit, seas less than a foot. So my plan was to launch at Broadway Channel and use New Pass to get out to the beach and sandbar. Got to the pass and the weatherman wasn't just off, I'm not sure the bastard actually went to weather school... it was blowing no less than 15 (he did get the direction right, I'll give him that) and the waves nearly swamped me.

So plan B: run inside and hit the same cove where I caught the redfish from a few weeks ago. After fighting the tide for an hour, I made it to the cove where the water was crystal clear and calm as could be (shielded from wind by mangroves). All I saw were sheepshead, so decided to post up at a mangrove edge that has an oyster bar and channel next to it. Tide starts swinging back in finally and I kid you not, I saw no less than 50 snook just run straight by me, all following the same line. I swear they staged it.. They were not interested in playing. And right after that was a huge school of slot or just under slot redfish. And not a God damn one would touch anything I threw.

So I started just running around to wherever I could to get away from boat traffic (damn near got hit by some idiot kid on a jet ski) and came upon another little cove. At the entrance, laid up, was the biggest snook I've ever seen. All I could pick up without spooking him was the 8wt with a crab-ish fly on it. Not great, but looks like food. Nailed the bastard right between the eyes and he spooked. Ended up catching 3 snook total, all under 25 inches.

Eshiben needs to move down here....

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If they are spooky, the best thing you can throw to them, in my opinion, is something that suspends and doesn't move much. For flies, it doesn't get much better than a Seaducer.

As far as sheepshead go, I recently heard that they cannot resist those little Rebel Crawdad lures. Not sure the original hooks would hold up, but I'd be interested to see if they hit them particularly well.

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I didnt try a seaducer. Didn't even think about that one. I had a shrimp that my buddy tied for me, and it does suspend extremely well, but I think it lands too loud for them. I also tried a crab (as mentioned later) that I think may have got down too fast and scared them.

At least I have a definite travel route for them now though. And a school of active reds was a beautiful sight to finally see in person

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My Egyptian Mule Driver fly is also a very good suspending pattern and has caught a lot of tarpon and snook in the Everglades. Not a hard tie but not as light as a Seaducer.

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Do you have a video for it? I'm always looking for new flies to tie and try

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I have at least a couple or three (maybe more) of those Rebel Craws and will be glad to send them to a new home if anyone wants to use them for sheepshead. Flyguy's right, though, about the hooks. They're dinky and far too flimsy to hold up to a serious fish, especially in the salt. Not sure about how well the lure will track and run with different hooks, but I'm willing to donate a few to the cause if anyone's interested. Speak up if you want them, first request claims them, I'll send them free. If you already have my email, respond here first, then let me know where to send them. If you don't, I'll give it out again...newriverangler at hotmail.that com thing

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Fished some new water on the upper end of a stream on the eastern side of the Shenandoah. It was too cold for a morning in May but did get a few brookies. Found one big pool that had a school of 10 or so fish. They didn't seem to mind me and I was able to pick off a few on nymphs and streamers. One was even aggressive/curious enough to eat my submerged dry as I was stripping in line to recast so that was an interesting take. It was cool just to watch them for a while.
I've always thought that if you catch one fish in a pool then you've spooked any fish that may be between you and where you hooked up to that fish and it's time to move on. But I caught multiple fish in the same school and I know they saw me catch their friends. Is my assumption wrong? Or maybe these fish just don't get much pressure?

My experience has been that if you find natives that don't see a lot of pressure, it's fairly easy to catch several in the same pool. Those fish tend to be aggressive as there isn't a huge food supply in these small streams so they act quickly when something comes along.

Glad you got on some fish!

Agree- I've found that the higher the altitude/ difficulty of access yields eager and aggressive eats. Even on colder days where the fish won't rise on higher pressure sections you can get to remote high altitudes and the fish will rise

Used to fish with a buddy on a stream on the Western side of the park. We were throwing Panther Martin spinners. We'd take turns with first casts, always working from the head to the tail of the pool. In some of the bigger pools, we would often get one at the head, one in the middle and one at the tail out. Several times caught fish and had other fish trail them to the edge of the water before heading back out. This place was tough to get to and at the time, rarely fished. The brookies were bigger in them olden days, too. We're talking late 70s. I attribute it to little pressure, and usually, on our way back out before the climb, we'd hit the bigger pools again and often got another fish from them.
I also fished a forgotten stream in Rockbridge for three years before it got "rediscovered" by TU and they mucked it up for me by advertising the presence of wild fish. Before that happened, it was nothing to catch three or four fish from a pool, and there were numerous times fish, or several fish, would follow the hooked fish right up to my feet. That, for a fact, was because of lack of pressure.

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I had six eats on the same nymph from the hole under the same log just the other day. This is on a high pressure stream. When conditions are right, they will be very aggressive.

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Appreciate all the insight. Definitely a learning experience for me. I've only ever seen a school of natives like that one other time in a remote stream. Unfortunately that trip was not nearly as successful and involved hiking out a few miles in the middle of a thunderstorm. Now if they'd just reopen SNP there will be streams full of aggressive fish that haven't seen any pressure in the last month...

Sure thing. Yes, the SNP fishing should be on fire. Who knows when that will happen

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Any recommendations on a wide brimmed sight casting hat? I have a Quicksilver thatch hat that didn't fare too well after only a handful of trips last summer. I loved the sun coverage but it is in rough shape. I also have gift cards ready to use.

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I have 3 Tilley airflo hats...but they are very hot and the air does not flow. My last two purchases were Kuhl sun blade hats and while somewhat frumpy looking, they are functionally much cooler.

Wife bought a Tilley, she didn't like it enough to wear it, so gave it to me. I wore it several times, but nah, it's way hot. With straps deployed, it stays on the head in the wind and while running, and it does float. Also that it's insured forever no matter what and the bit about being made by persnickety Canadians makes it sound cool, but cool it ain't. It is, however, well built, I'll definitely give it that.
I had an old cowboy hat I bought in Cimarron, NM. It was palm and a good mid priced hat I bought at the local cowboy store there, and the store's still there, but it's been so long I couldn't remember the brand if I had to. It lasted for years, provided good shade, took dozens of rain storms without complaint, shrinkage, or appreciable damage and is still the only hat I've ever owned that I mourned the loss of and still do. Lost during a violent thunderstorm on the New River one July afternoon. Gotta get back to Cimarron.

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Glacier Glove Sonora. Fantastic hat. A bit less broad than some sun hats though. Enough to keep your face and neck in the shade.

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Had like two things to fix on my boat this weekend. Now I have 15.

Livewell pump i thought went out works fine (as does the replacement I bought) but my timer and helm switch failed. Bilge pump manual switch also failed while I was diagnosing that issue. Knocked off my jack plate pump while messing with the battery now its out of fluid. My talon is still inexplicably drawing full amperage when not in use.

Some jackass hit my trailer the other week and tore off my taillight. So I bought ridiculously expensive pole lights. Wired those up to find my truck fuse is blown. Replaced that to find out that the wiring harness for the trailer is shot.

I should have gone fishing this weekend.

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This thread is the only thing that keeps me from buying a boat. I'll stick with my yaks for now no trailer, electrical issues it's blissful. Electronics are a pain on boats and trailers I don't envy all the work you've done on that boat

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Don't let us dissuade you from joining in our misery. It is a lesson in humility, a prompt for creative problem solving, and if you can get out, a chance to fish anywhere within more than a couple of miles from where you put in. Is it better? For me, yes. I've had it up to my gills with little boats that sit low on the water, and I've put enough time in with paddle and oars to row around the damn world, it seems. If you want to go where I can't, have at it, a kayak might be the ticket.

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Funny you say that actually, I was looking at my next project yesterday. 19 foot shoal cat, been thinking about trying to see if its salvageable and for a nice low price worth fixing up. It would be a bit of work but luckily I have plenty of time. The trailer is in great condition the tires need to be replaced but wiring is still good and the trailer frame is solid. The boat would need some serious cleaning and resealing. Wiring may need a bit of work but nothing I cant do. Only major bit is I'd need a motor for it everything else is there and working. Guessing a 60-75 hp should cut it. Its been stored in that shed for the last 15 years but has been well covered. its a twin hull as well which makes me think a 75 hp is best.

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Lol here I am complaining about my boat and trying to figure out why buying a 1970s Sportfisher running on Ford 351s for $9k would be a bad idea

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Haha what could go wrong

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I feel like I could light $9k and then probably another $15k on fire orrrrr I could buy the boat for $9k and throw another $15k in maintenance that will ultimately come up.

Those Ford small blocks wouldn't be hard to work on but I feel like I wouldn't have any range with 150 gallon tank. Its a really good deal and the boat is really clean and a couple local captains have vouched for the boats condition and current owner probably worth looking at if anyone is realistically looking at a very affordable 30' sporty.

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Range could be an issue, especially out of charleston where the stream is farther away than in NC.

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Do it then we ca ndo the TKP tourney offshore, flyguy in his skiff and everyone else on the sportfisher

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I'm down. For years my buddy ran a 30 foot piece of shit Dusky 50-80 miles offshore with one Suzuki 350 outboard. The boat was taking on water all the time through a leak somewhere and listed to one side or the other. The bilge pump was constantly running. At least the outboard was a 2013 and they had an EPIRB. I refused to step foot on that boat. I trust my Hewes way out much more than that thing...

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Where's a good place for fishing reports on the outerbanks? Can't find any up to date ones it seems and looking at going to Ocracoke for a small honeymoon and wanna figure out what to bring

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a variety of soft plastics seems appropriate

Figure my medium and light casting gear plus lots of swimbaits shrimp baits and a few pompano rigs for the surf if I dont feel like chucking spoons as well. I'd imagine a gold spoon in the surf if its not too rough otherwise Ill take the kayak and explore the surf for trout and flounder. If drum are around I'll bring some gulp. Also could use some fly guy flies and the 8 wt to try and get some that way.
Edit: Looks like big specks in the surf wonder if swimbaits and spoons will catch them from the surf would be fun if thats the case.

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I believe the big specks are northern OBX from surf. You should find some on sound side along with drum. Worry about finding the fish, don't overthink the tackle.

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Spoons, swimbaits and gulp shrimp and popping corks for the sound should work I would think. Might try some surf stuff to see if any bluefish or spanish are around. Wonder if the warming temps will slow the trout bite though. I know a few good spots to put in the kayak on the sound sides of ocracoke and paddle about to get further away from most people and find some of the creek mouths and sand bars out in the sound.

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I saw OBX charter captain catch trout all summer last year. Blues and spanish should be around or at least they are to the south. Find some grass flats or sloughs on google earth and go exploring.

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Good to hear all those are really all I'll be looking for. Per flyguys advice I'll probably trail a clouser behind as I paddle about as well in case I can find a flounder or two. I know of a few good sloughs I used to get puppy drum with real shrimp under a popping cork, though things have shifted i'm sure just gonna have to run out and see.

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Yeah always a solid idea to troll a paddletail or something like that behind you. Pick up a few extra fish that you wouldn't usually fishing out of a boat.

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The best luck I've had in the surf for trout was on a double jig rig using two different colors of curly tail grubs. This was before Gulp, which I would use now. I caught them on smoke and also on a salt and pepper Bass Pro Spring Grub with chartreuse tail. Both grubs were 4". In those days, trout were also known to be fond of lime green grubs.
I have also caught a bunch of nice flounder from the surf down there using grubs. Again, I'd try
Gulp 4" Swimming Mullet in chartreuse, or the 3" shrimp in most any color. In those days, I used one of the above Bass Pro Spring Grubs. I liked them because they were super soft and had a ribbed body that seemed to make noise or something when retrieved. I must've bought a thousand of them in my day. They make a 3", but it's too small for the fish I was after.

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Solid advice I'll keep that in mind while in bass pro stocking up. I figure anything with some sharp color and scent will work when not using a flashy spoon. Chartreuse sounds a good bet in both surf and sound just gotta locate some good points with some structure or moving water or oyster bars.

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Very dissapointed my sense of humor didnt pick that up at first, well done.

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Oceans east obx, TWs bait and tackle websites

tws seems to be the best at up to date stuff thanks for the list.

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May equals Cobia. But then you'd probably need to have one those boat things to get out in the channels.

No longer much good in the way of reports online for OBX. I rely on facebook, IG, my contacts down there and mostly, my instincts.

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Figure I can take what I know from here for trout and use it similarly there and work off that. Well have our ocean yaks so we can roam a bit and try and explore some to find some spots off the beaten path and try to figure things out as the week goes.

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Cobia bite has been sloooooowwww down there this year so far.

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Its just now picking up in the Broad River in SC. They usually get a week or two of them before they close the season for May. I only know a handful of people who got keepers before the season ended, most people are thinking they'll still be around when it opens up again in June.

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Everything depends on when you are going. I admittedly do not know Ocracoke well. Tradewinds is the only tackle place on the island. That fishery (with south/south east facing beaches) is radically different from the northern OBX. Information from Oceans East or TWs won't be very helpful.

https://tradewindstackle.com/fishing-reports/

My general rules of thumb are:
1) Fish the shoals at the ends of the island for drum. Fresh chunk cut baits. If biters and crabs are bad, use spot, sea mullet, or cob mullet heads. Whole finger mullet is a good alternative in the summer.
2) Summertime tends for the trout to be soundside. But it is never a bad idea to have four rods.
a. Have a big heaver to throw cut bait, especially if you find a break in the bar/rip current. Predators hang out there. Worst case, a 4 foot blacktip shark gives you some entertainment.
b. A light surf rod with very small hooks, tipped with sand flea fishbites. Fish it right behind the lip of the beach. This should produce spot for fresh bait, sea mullet, and pompano in Ocracoke. For best results, tie a double dropper loop rig or a river rig. Again, most people use hooks that are way too big.
c. A light spinning rod. Tie a piece of 20lb fluoro with a dropper loop. Tie a 3/4 oz jig head on the tag end and a 1/4 oz jig on the long end (red jig heads), and then tip them with chartreuse gulp mullet for trout, or white gulp mullet for flounder in the surf. Go slow... you want to drag it on the bottom in the surf for trout and flounder.
d. Have a faster tip spinning rod in the sand spike with a 1oz stingsilver. If you see birds working, run and grab it and start throwing. Could be blues, spanish, albies, or bonito. A lot of days you will never throw it. But, always have it handy.

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For your light bottom rig, size 6 hooks. I like aberdeens.

For your heaver- 8/0 octopus circles, snell your hooks!, on a fishfinder rig.

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3" leader or shorter on fishfinder. All good advice! Very well put together guide French.

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Yes, although if it is summer and clear water, going with a longer leader may work. But, they will lose casting distance from the "helicopter" effect.

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Nothing beats waiting on a bottom rig for 20 minutes, then checking it to find its been wrapped the whole time. Thanks for the input on surf stuff I dunno how much we will do in the surf but if we do I'll take the info if it ends up best bet.

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What's a good place to buy surf/pier tackle online?

It really depends on what you are getting. The local tackle shops in the OBX and Va Beach appear to have really cut back their online offerings. J and H Tackle (Long Island) or TackleDirect have been good to me but I have heard complaints about both. I'd still rather give them business than BassPro.

If you want conventional surf fishing heavers, you are going to be better off making phone calls to see what you can order at the OBX spots because in the Northeast they are much more focused on spinning gear.

What are you in the market for?

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Not real sure what I'm in the market for. My saltwater experience is surf and pier fishing with an old 7' Cabelas Salt Striker rod and real combo. I finally broke the tip of that thing last summer after having it for nearly 20 years.

I would like to be able to have some basic tackle and setups ready for when I hit the surf. Traveling with a family, it is much easier to walk out of the house and hit the surf or head to the pier than it is to drive to a tackle store and get what I need. For tackle, I'd like to have an assortment of plugs, spoons and rigs ready to go, including terminal tackle like sinkers and hooks. For rods and reels, I'd really like to buy a good surf rod and perhaps a bucktail rod like you mentioned. I have some smaller spinning outfits I could use for bait and fishbites. I do have some larger casting musky rigs, including a Diawa Lexa 300 and Shimano Calcutta 400B that I could easily repurpose. Not sure if these will work with the "heaver" setup mentioned.

In a nutshell, if I could pick up a combo or two and have some lures and tackle, I'd feel much better than just to head out and hope I could pick stuff up on the way. I plan to make my own sand spikes and maybe rig up a cart to use. There's going to be a couple of families going with us and I'm the only dedicated fisherman, so I'd like to be as prepared as could be. I'm sure the kids will want to surf fish as well which will help me buy some time. The pier is within walking distance and I'd like to be able to pack up and hit that when I get the chances as well. I've never been very serious about saltwater, but I go to the beach every year and I'd like to up my game.

So, I checked out the specifications on the Daiwa Lexa. If you have a matching rod with a fast action, that may suffice as a bucktail rod on the pier. My biggest worries would be line capacity (I believe is is around 180 yards of 40lb braid). Some fish, that would be enough. If one gets a mean on, you may get spooled. But, if this isn't a regular thing, investing $300 (an 8 foot XXH Teramar and a Daiwa BG 4500 would probably be the best cheap option and that would total around $250-280) when you have that and may only get one cast at a fish in a week is a tough investment. Do you have a good musky swimbait rod to match with the Lexa?

For the pier, the only other rod you need is a spinning rod you would use for bass fishing. Ideally, you want a fast action 8-15 ish pound class rod and a 2500/3000 sized spinning reel. You don't need "saltwater gear" on a pier. That set up will suffice if you bottom fish for spot, croaker, pinfish, sea mullet, or pompano, and it is ideal for casting to spanish mackerel and bluefish.

For the pier, have the following:
1) two 2oz cobia bucktails. I strongly recommend getting a Bowed Up Lures bucktail- one in "au natural" (brown and white) and one pink and chartreuse. If the water is super clear, go with the brown. Dingy, go with the pink.

2) a handful of gotcha plugs ($3.99-4.99 each) in the 1oz size. Red head with a white body is a standard. Pink mylar is the best if you really want to target spanish and keep the bluefish away.

3) small spools of 30 and 50 pound flurocarbon. If you are fishing a gotcha plug for spanish and bluefish, you need a flurocarbon leader. Even 30 will get bitten off some, but that is about as heavy as you can go without reducing your strikes. For your cobia rod, have at least a 3 foot long section of the 50lb fluro leader (you can get away with mono as well.

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Thanks for the input French. I do have a good swimbait rod I can pair with my Lexa that should suffice in a pinch. I typically don't spot cast or sight fish with it but can give it a dry run in my pond to see how it will accurately handle a bucktail. I'm assuming you've gotta be pretty accurate for that setup to work. I'll stock up on gotcha plugs and follow the rest of the advice you've laid out. I may have a follow up question or two before heading out but I should be in good shape to get steering where I need to be. Thanks again.

Stand on a stoop and cast into a bucket is the best advice I can give for practicing. I know lots of guys who fish with a Teramar conventional paired with a Lexa on a boat. But, on a boat you can chase a fish.

Getting a bucktail fish off the pier is a once in a lifetime accomplishment unless you get to spend a ton of hours on a pier. But, being prepared at least gives you a shot. Look for those big rays. If you see a big ray, throw a bucktail. The cobia will get under them scooping up the crabs and baitfish that the ray kicks up. Otherwise, look for free swimmers. If you have decent sun glasses, they won't be hard to see.

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For the surf, everything just depends on what you want to do. You can easily spend a fortune. The "heaver" set up is a 10-13 foot heavy conventional rod capable of throwing 8 ounces of lead plus a bait, coupled with a conventional reel that holds 180-200 yards of 16-20 pound mono. Although there is a slight chance you may get a cobia or red drum in the summer, if you are there in the summer odds are that you will get a shark on that big set up.

If money is no object and you want a heaver, I would recommend a Penn Fathom II 15 and a Daiwa Ballistic 40-405 rod. That pair is $500 plus, and that is the entry point combo in that market. Lots of guys buy custom CTS rods.

Any spinning gear in the 8-9 foot range that you can throw a 2oz sinker will suffice for both soaking bait for panfish or throwing metal in the surf (sure, there is more specialized stuff, but it is probably overkill.) Since you have kids, I would suggest having bloodworm and sand flea fishbites handy, but have them use a sand rake and dig up live sand fleas. Cast just beyond the lip of the beach (CLOSE) and fish for pompano and sea mullet. Both fight hard and are delicious table fare. Use the river rigs (I will post a link) and as light a weight as you can get away with without it rolling. I wouldn't fish more than two rods on the bottom, and then keep a rod in a sandspike with a 2oz stingsilver on it. You see birds, throw and play motorboat.

If you want trout and flounder, use the same light spinning rod for bass that you used with the gotcha on the pier. Tie on a double jig head (3/4oz paired with a 1/4oz) and gulp mullet in white or chartreuse. Walk and cast slowly. If you are targeting trout and flounder, I wouldn't keep the other rods soaking because you will need to walk the beach.

Gear options:
Pier gotcha rod/Trout surf combo: https://www.tackledirect.com/st-croix-mis70mf-mojo-inshore-spinning-rod.... paired with https://www.tackledirect.com/penn-cla2500-clash-spinning-reel.html or https://www.tackledirect.com/shimano-st3000hgfk-stradic-fk-spinning-reel...

Gotcha Lures: https://www.amazon.com/GOT-CHA-G300GH-3PK-Plug-Assortment-Pack/dp/B003DS... (this is the best price- the mylar gotchas will be more expensive- I'd recommend getting two 3 packs if you are going to spend a lot of time on the pier)

Flurocarbon (use this for gotchas or tying your trout jigs) https://www.tackledirect.com/yozurihd30lbdp.html

Jig Heads I will defer to others for the best design, but get 3/4 oz and 1/4 oz. Here is how to tie them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKZw0y7YuXg but make sure the 3/4 is the "top" jig on the short end.

Gulp https://www.tackledirect.com/berkley-gulp-alive-swimming-mullet.html

Cobia Bucktail (I would recommend stopping at Oceans East at Whalebone Junction to pick out a Bowed Up bucktail. If you want to order one, he has his Skurtzen Series available online. https://boweduplures.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F2oz-octo-skurtzn-series... . They are more durable, but my luck has been better with his natural bucktails (my favorite is a chartreuse and pink 2oz with two plastic pink squid tails using this head https://boweduplures.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F4-24-jig-drp&page=1)

Surf fishing:
Bottom rig/river rig https://www.carolinacastpro.com/products/river-rig (or tie a dropper loop rig with your 30lb fluro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiuwhoyltbs)

Fishbites use pieces about 1/2 inch https://www.tackledirect.com/fishbites-e-z-flea.html and https://www.amazon.com/Fishbites-Bloodworms-Ll-33/dp/B005AUGGGC

Get 2 and 3 oz sinkers for panfishing https://www.tackledirect.com/tackledirect-pyramid-sinker.html

For metal in the surf: https://www.amazon.com/Haw-River-1540CH-Sting-Silver/dp/B001446UZA or the 2oz

For surf rods:
Pompano/Sea Mullet: https://www.jandh.com/products/daiwa-bg4000-802m-bg-surf-spinning-combos...

For heavier spinning but not breaking the bank, try a https://www.jandh.com/products/daiwa-2016-bg4500-spinning-reels.html paired with a https://www.jandh.com/products/daiwa-coastal-sp-surf-spinning-rods.html in the 11 foot heavy.

Spool the heavy spinning rod with 17 Suffix Tritainum and 25 feet of 50lb shock leader (it will prevent you from snapping your line when you cast.) You can get away with casting with 5-6oz of weight (get those size pyramid sinkers) and you can throw an 8oz if the surf is rougher.

Use a fishfinder rig: You can order them https://www.carolinacastpro.com/products/tommy-farmer-fishfinder-drum-ri... or you can tie your own. I like tying my own- snell a 10/0 Mustad octopus circle with 60lb mono and tie it to a 150lb barrel swivel, with about 3 inches between the top of the hook and the swivel. Then thread your shock leader through the small eye of a snap swivel, tie it to your barrel swivel, and the snap swivel becomes your slider. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/c7/53/a2c75339c48d3e275b275e96806780c7...

Now, if you want to go balls deep on a heaver, I can write a different post for that.

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You da man. Lemme digest. Dunno about balls deep on a heaver yet but I'm toying with my budget.

I've been eyeing a good setup for trout fishing artificials but cant find anything on sale at the moment to bite on so I'll keep waiting. Been wanting a BG2500 with a good medium or medium light 7 foot rod with fast action. I'll be checking a few of the tackle shops on the OBX when I'm down there to see if they have anything on a sale rack worth snagging to pair with my medium 7 foot BG3000 setup as well.

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If you can find a deal on a Tidemaster, jump on it. I have no idea what the local shops are selling. I do know that the new shipping rules are tricky for selling rods online.

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Thats the issue, my taste for finer things has made it much harder to find deals than it used to be. Ever since I upgraded stuff to better quality adding a new rig is not easy atleast when it comes to finding any combo deals. I;m hoping the local shops might have a few on sale of previous models theyre looking to get out and can pick them up for a little discount. I really like the mojo line they can be a bit heavier than some rods but they can handle so much in a wide range its nice.

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Every year, I look for 10% off your first order for signing up for our mailing list deals.

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The only sale I can usually count on is 15% off for black friday. Don't know what your price range is for your rod.

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I'm headed south to Florida again to visit my Mom the last week of May. She's just south of St Augustin. I've received a lot of good advice from you guys in the past for this area so I'd like to get your thoughts on what might be around and willing to bite in late May in NE Florida? I've never fished this location this time of year before so not sure what to expect. I'll be surf fishing only, no access to a kayak for the Matanzas River. I'm planning using the same techniques as usual, bottom rig with a variety of bait and hope for the best while enjoying cold beverages. But if there's any thoughts to other presentations, etc, I'm all ears.

Thanks!

Paging Daveinop! I'm pretty sure that's his neck of the woods. At least close to it

But from what I know about the area- find some sand fleas and put a pompano rig on. I dont think snook are frequent up there, but can be found. That's my extent of knowledge for that rea. Dave will have a ton more I'm sure

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I'll check around a bit

edit: Our favorite beach has been closed and my ocean guru has been going offshore in between gales.

A couple more degrees and reds should start showing up on the beach, you'll be right on the edge of that.

When are you leaving? I'll let you know if anything pops between now and then.

Thanks!

Planning on leaving Virginia early morning 5/22, arriving in Palm Coast by noon (with some luck). I'll be there from 5/22 until we leave on 5/30, and I'll have nothing else to do besides swim in the pool and fish. You don't even know how excited I am that shopping and tourist stuff isn't an option this trip...

Appreciate the info!

"Some fish" caught in the surf late yesterday pm That would have been around the low tide

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Do you think there's still a chance at some pompano or have they moved further north? I am still learning about this fish. I caught my first and only one last year, but at 19" it put up a great fight and was delicious, so now I'm wanting to figure them out more. Some websites say they move out of the Florida coast to cooler water north in summer.

Thanks again!

possibly. they do move north as the water warms and we're at the end of our window. but this is also a weird year.

the people who run Genungs Fish Camp (904/907-5742) just south of the 206 bridge on the river at Crescent Beach are very friendly and have a reputation for steering people in the right direction. Going in there to pick up some bait and chat would not be a waste of your time. They should know what is going on from there south to Matanzas Inlet.

Thanks! We love going to Crescent and I wasn't aware of this place. Will definitely check them out.

they are on the river, so like two blocks south of 206 and 2 blocks west of A1A. I think there is a Shell station/convenience store where you turn

Overall most places are cooler right now. If theyre there they are easy to find right in the surf where the waves break in the trough throw a pompano rig with sandfleas or sandflea fish bites and the little ones will let you know theyre there very quickly.
Some good tips in this video.

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Thanks. That's my usual go to tactic as well. Hoping the weird spring kept a few south later than perhaps normal.

Way back in the day we caught the little ones in the surf at Hatteras, but last year, late summer, we were at Surf City and I caught two pretty good sized ones, biggest I've ever caught, on fish bites and they were out near the first sand bar, not in the curl where I've always found them. I was surprised at the hard hit and they fought really well. Only got one one day and one another day so didn't try to eat them, but I got re-interested in them as a sporting fish. Hope you get into them. When I was a kid, we ate them a few times, but they were too strong for us kids to enjoy, though mom and dad sure did.

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Larger Pomps hit like a train wreck. Often they hit coming towards you so you have to watch the surf rod closely. Once you find one, catch it and get back on it, They usually cruise in large schools of similar sized fish. The times I maxed out in Florida this is exactly what happened. I would get into a school and be limited in less than an hour. See the pic.
Also, the target water temp for Pompano is 68 degrees F. Watch the surf temp where your going and plan accordingly.

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Wow. I'd love to have an hour or two like that! Appreciate the info on the water temp. And train wreck is exactly how I'd describe the way that 19" pompano hit. That was fun for sure. Fingers crossed for some good luck.

I think the main thing I need to change for better surf fishing is location. Heretofore, I've just sat up shop where the family is doing other beach stuff. If I were serious, I'd stay more mobile, move up and down the beach to find the right structure of run outs and bars, and go find the fish. Maybe this trip I'll do more of that.

Edit: following up on the temp. Looks like the only time the average water temp (data since 1984) approaches 68掳 is around March 1. Does that mean pompano typically stay further north than this location? The current sea temp is 76掳, is that too warm to expect much pompano action?

Seeing the temps for where i'm going next week is in the low 70s wonder if the pompano will be around then?
I know in florida theyre a blast and can give you loads of entertainment. You can also snag em on crab like flies in the surf if you tip the hook with some fish bites.

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I've seen pictures of people catching pompano on OBX.

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time to tie up a few extra pompano rigs if there at the obx ocracoke should hold a few of em. Even gonna run down to portsmouth island so they should be there I would think.

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South beach and Frisco beach fronts should have them. Tie up a river rig and fish with sand fleas.

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I thought about trying this. A decent pompano on my 7 or 8 weight would be excellent sport I believe. Not sure I'll have room this trip for more than two rods.

Ehhhh whats one more rod really? A fly rod can be tucked away and is no hassle. They can be fun on lighter fly rods unless theres big ones which I would say a 7-8 wt would be ideal.

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For the past few decades, I've always packed a smallmouth rod and reel with my surf gear when spending any time at the beach. I now use Gulp, but used to use 4'' curly tailed grubs and "hunt" the surf for flounder and other close up fish. Finding the little current anomalies, cuts and pools, then fishing tight on the bottom for the flatties became the most productive surf flounder fishing I've ever had, far outfishing my surf gear for that species. Along the way, I've gotten everything from flounder, blues, croaker and trout to a five pound stargazer that I'm still amazed didn't shock my heart out of my chest. Toss in a few pups, and it's a good way to do that surf hunting, and you just tie it up with the surf rod, and a ziplock will hold the jig heads and grubs you need. Beats sitting around when you feel like really fishing, and still nice to have beside you while chillin' and sand spike fishing for short forays.

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I agree. I typically take my surf rod, just a 9'-0" mediumheavy fast action spinning rod to put in the spike, and I have smallmouth rod to do just what you mention. Since my vehicle is not what I'd call reliable for the 9 hour trek, I'm not sure if I can fit those two plus a fly rod in my wife's car. We'll see.

Regarding the "hunting" you do, any tips on that? I've tried the last three trips to use lures and what not but have never had a single strike. I'm typically using a jighead, usually red or white, with a bunch of different soft plastics, usually Gulp Swimming mullet (white and/or chartreuse 3-4") or Gulp shrimp (usually New Penny and New Penny/Chartreuse 3-4"). I've also tossed Sting Silvers, Mirr-O-Lures, and Gotchas. The only thing I've ever had any luck in the salt with is bottom rigs and bait, and one near shore trolling trip where we slayed the Spanish. I think I did catch one lizard fish one time on a Sting silver.

Any tips on what to do with the lure rod while soaking bait with the other would be greatly appreciated.

My take is leave the fly rod home and continue to fish the light rod. It sounds like you have the right rig, so the problem is likely an absence of fish. There aren't many fish in the surf that are feeding that will ignore a 4" Gulp swimming mullet, and while I prefer chartreuse, pink and white have worked for me when I've run out of chartreuse. Really, what I do is just look the shoreline over, looking for changes in the sand, like cut aways or pile ups (can't think of what else to call them), as well as looking at the water for a while looking for consistent patterns in the rip return of the waves. I fish really slow, dead ass on the bottom, with really short, like six inch, hops, then back down and repeat. If flounder are around, you'll get them that way and other fish will still hit the jig. If flounder aren't around, think trout, with a slow but steady retrieve almost dragging the bottom, maybe with a double jig rig to also attract fish in the upper column. Reds will also be on the bottom. You can jig aggressively and catch blues, and I've caught Spanish on that rig, but not from the surf. If the waves are high, or the wind is up, bag it and throw metal and bottom rigs on your 9' rod. When just sitting, if you don't feel like a stingsilver type spoon will be effective, toss the big rig out with bait and use the small rod to fish for the pompano in the surf, or put a lighter weight on a bottom rig and do a closer up cast and see if things are running behind the curls, but in the trough before the first sand bar. This is what I would do, and to be honest, I've done better with the small rod than the big one when there are a bunch of fish around and the waves were manageable. I might walk a quarter mile up and/or down hunting. You are just trying to shrink the ocean down to something you can manage. If something is different on the water, regardless of what it is, fish it well, and main thing here, BE CONFIDENT in your jig rig. Like I said, if they're there, you'll get them with the Gulp. The shrimp are good too, and 3rdgen has done well for flounder in the surf on the shrimp, but I've not used them there. I do think they'll work, but I sure love the attention grabbing twisty tail of the swimming mullet. Go with the 4" for sure, better for me, anyway.
And if I still have your attention, I will suggest the one thing I used to do but seldom do anymore when on a beach vacation. Get up early, save breakfast for later. Daybreak is often the best fishing of the day.
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Wow. Thanks for all the info. I think, judging from your tips, I've been fishing the swimming mullet all wrong. It looked like a curly tail grub I used as a kid for bluegill and little smallmouth, so I was fishing it the same way I used to. Fairly quick retrieve, never bouncing bottom. I'm going to give the slow approach a shot.

I like the idea of the two strategies using the two rods based on the wind and surf. Definitely going to be more flexible with my approach this time around.

Appreciate the tips!

I will say the common saying in saltwater is if you think youre going slow enough think again and slow it down some more. Atleast for trout and flounder and red drum as well in the surf atleast. I'm gonna be walking the beaches more than sitting so I'll be tying a double jig rig on to see how they do as a searching bait while walking and I'll stop and fish the deeper holes and if I see a cut out through a sandbar thats a good spot as well.

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It truly is a matter of where the fish are how you fish the bait. Flounder lay flat on the bottom in ambush mode. They will chase, even follow a bait to the surface in 17' of water, had it happen many times, depending on the aggression/hunger of the fish, but in general, they are bottom feeders. Trout will run the bottom and can also be higher in the water column, but I remember the good ole days at the OBX when the big schools of chopper blues would be feeding on the trout. If you could get a lure through the blues to the bottom, you caught a trout. Reds are primarily bottom feeders, but will also chase and hit lures on top in shallow and calmer water. When I fish docks here in the Mobjack area, I always go straight to the bottom before beginning any retrieve, and do the short hop thing. Using that bait and that method, I have caught flounder, blues, stripers, trout, reds, croaker, spot, baby cobia, lizard fish, ribbon fish, white perch, stickback perch and even a handful of hickory shad. Add in black willies, a tautog and a bunch of little groupers, and you get my drift. This is jig 101 for me, and the same slow hopping method I used on the New River for smallmouth in the spring, and for Claytor Lake walleye in the deep hole I used to frequent. Also caught muskies, flatheads, yellow perch and channel cats doing the same thing. The return to the bottom and the pause usually triggers the strike, and I always have the line fairly caught up so as to feel the hit as the lure falls back down.

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Theres still guys catching pompano here and our water temp (naples pier at last look) is 81. It's a wild time when you can grab a 30+ inch snook and a decent pompano on the same day at the same beach.

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Thanks for the report. That's good to know.

Interesting. We typically try to do a fish fry every time I head to my mom's (some trips we eat steak and chicken or store bought fish because the fisherman didn't bring his A-game). The two wild species we've eaten are whiting and pompano. The family seemed to prefer the pompano over the whiting in unanimous fashion.

But you are right, as a sport fish, they're a lot of fun.

We were picky eaters, for sure, with the exception of my craving for escargot. We ate fish at least once a week, always had a freezer full. Mostly bluegill, crappie, yellow perch, bass and catfish, so our palates were conditioned for the less fishy tasting freshwater fish. We liked croaker and spot as well. All fish, all the time were fried, and I was in my late teens before we got our first filet knife. Fish like bluefish, salmon, Spanish mackerel, and yes, pompano, were too fishy for our bland tastes. I think mom and dad liked others, but deferred to our tastes.

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I caught small ones fishing for spot during drum season in the fall. But, the only big one hit a gotcha plug. The bigger ones hit like a freight train.

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Got out yesterday, wind didn't die off midday and very low water. Got a couple small stripers on the troll. Working flats, got a 19" striper to eat a MR17 808 color that I was quickly retrieving back cause I thought it was fouled up with grass. Thought it was a stud trout with the head shakes for a second. Will be back searching for a big trout next weekend...

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so that's what a fish looks like. I've heard stories about those things

nice work!

Haha have you not been getting out Dave?

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Nope, I put a new stainless prop on the Scout 3 weeks ago and it hasn't seen the water. Wind is the biggest issue; then I had a little Mohs work on my face last Monday and had to dial it back a little for a few days. Hopefully this week...

However, my former watercraft seem to bring luck with them. Back2VT is killing it in SWFL (I have one lifetime snook and that seems to be all he catches); then I sent the gheenoe to my daughter and her BF on a long term (permanent) loan...they took it out in the wind on Saturday in Guana Lake (saltwater) and he promptly caught a 20" trout.

(somebody needs to wash that cooler)

edit: looks like an eagle or osprey nest in that pine tree on the far left

I gotcha. Well hope you get out soon and we get to see you catching some more slot reds.

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I have vowed to fish the hot weather this year so we shall see. Other than Mother's Day activities, I spent the weekend gluing z-man tails to jig heads. I have not mastered z-man elaztech

I find as I use the bait more the more it seems to stay on. Texas eye jigs make you not have worry about it sliding off. I remember you saying that hot weather was tough down there. Maybe more conducive for surf fishing?

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To be fair, we do have a TON more snook in our area. I read a study from a few years ago (shortly after the big "freeze" kill) that said the west coast of Florida from New Port Richey and south to Flamingo had an estimated population of ~1.4M snook, will the east coast from Flamingo to St. Augustine had an estimated population of ~400K.

I'm not sure how they even get to those numbers since I'm nowhere near smart enough to be a fisheries scientist, but that's a massive difference. And with the Everglades/10k islands so close, we just have more chances at them.

I only have one lifetime redfish. I want more!!

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with your new rig, you'll be catching them routinely

Pretty work!

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As of right now our beach trip is still on for the third week of June. We will be staying in the OBX/Rodanthe just north of the pier on the ocean side and I plan to do as much fishing as possible while we're there. I will likely focus mostly on the surf but I'm within walking distance of the Rodanthe Pier so I'm sure I'll hit that some especially if the opportunities are better. I'm scouring through the threads getting some info together as I'm not much on saltwater. May try to book a charter if I can get some others to tag along to split the costs. You guys are an awesome resource and I appreciate all the tips. I may crowdsource for specifics as the trip gets closer but for now am just compiling past information.

Check out french's post earlier in the thread gear wise.

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That time of the year, fish the pier on any kind of easterly wind. I would recommend two rods- one a 10lb class fast or extra fast action spinning rod, 10 pound mono, and 2 feet of 30lb flurocarbon with a pink or gold mylar gotcha plug (bring extra plugs.) Get out to the end when the pier opens (sunrise-as early a start as you can get) and throw the gotcha plugs. You should get spanish mackerel, which are delicious. If you get bluefish, keep in mind there are new regulations and the limit is 3.

The second rod should be a bucktail rod. Any fast action, 8 foot, 15-40lb class spinning rod should do (preferably a one piece.) For a reel, it is hard to beat a Penn SSV or SSVI 6500, spooled with 50 pound braid and a 3 foot section of 60lb flurocarbon leader. Those fish have seen some pressure when you are there. I would go with a Bowed Up Lures 2oz bucktail in a brown crab pattern. You can pick up one or two at Ocean's East not far from where NC12 heads south from Nags Head.

For the cobia, you want a good shaded hat and quality sunglasses. Look for BIG rays (not little cownose rays) with cobia following them. You will also see fish cruising on their own. If you hear tourists yell "shark", check it out. It is often a cobia. Keep the jig moving, but make sure it sinks, especially when the cobia are on rays.

If you want to buy a new combo at an affordable price, a Teramar XXH 8 foot spinning rod paired with an SSV 6500 is about as good as you can get for a pier. A keeper cobia on a bucktail is very low odds, but can be a thrill of a lifetime.

See above for surf guidance.

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Since your food thing is so suspect, I normally wouldn't even bother to bring this up, but many others have also said good things about eating Spanish Mackerel. I hate 'em. Oily, bloody and very strong fishy flavor turns me off, as many of that type of fish does.
Given that I, too, am a fellow with some less popular food choices, I will throw this to the gallery in the galley, so to speak. Smoked? Yeah, I can eat most smoked fish on crackers with a chilly bev, but to make a meal of them? So let me hear it. I am of the mild tasting firm white flesh faction, also a reason I don't care for salt water trout. In the salt, I like the flounders, croakers, small redfish of the world, and the deep water stuff that ends up as fish and chips, groupers, etc. I have also admitted that a good chef could likely change my mind on most any kind of meat, including fish, so the main problem might be my truncated cooking skills and lack of imagination. And grill. I don't grill anymore. Can't afford to buy a new gas grill every year, can't keep them from rusting in a year, no matter where I live. Don't have the patience for charcoal, and can't be outside in the summer after dark because of the hoards of vampires I share the night with here in the marshes. What's a feller to do?

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Grilling in Mathews VA is just a bit better than cleaning fish at dusk as you get eaten alive. Its why I build a big screened porch for my house where I can smoke and grill meat where the bugs cant pick me dry. That all said flounder and spanish mackerel take the cake for me. Anything real fishy just marinade with skin on in italian seasoning for a full day in the fridge and then grill skin down until the flesh turns a flaky texture and then its done and as you cook it keep adding the italian dressing to help knock the fishyness a bit.

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For oily fish I like using sweet and salty flavors - like soy sauce mixed with brown sugar, ginger and garlic. Marinate and grill, broil or fry in a skillet and brush with the marinate. Breaded or batter fried with those same flavors also work for me. A jerk sauce with enough soy in it also works if you like some heat, or the sauce sushi places put on BBQ eel. Italian dressing as a marinade also works for me, but not for really oily fish - I like it on swordfish, mahi mahi or the like. I have had good oily fish at a restaurant made with house BBQ sauce, but I am not sure what was in it - would guess honey, vinegar and tomato paste mostly. If you do not the flavor when you cook it, try making some version of a tuna salad out of it and play with other ingredients till you get something you like.

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Thanks. Where I live, it's hard to catch Spanish unless you are trolling. Heavy rods to handle downriggers, and super long leaders make for some pretty blah fishing unless you're set on numbers.
That said, I'll probably not be targeting them to try to eat, but I appreciate, and understand, the direction you went with the mitigation of strong and oily fish.

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We rolled down to SC last night to stay with in laws for awhile... reading this thread pushed me over the edge and had to go get some casts in around lunch.

YES!

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Beautiful! A great smile too!!!

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Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Awesome!!

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Perfect!

I'll be chasing them tomorrow, hope I can smile like that when day's done.

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Significant other had a zoom interview, so went down to the river to be out of the house. Figured today wasn't going yield much, but ended up with the two. Lost my favorite Mepps spinner after catching the first, but that's just been my luck.

Anyone hear about the fuel spill in the York?

For those that want to know more, looks like 4,000 gallons of diesel from a Navy guided missile cruiser, the USS Philippine Sea. Mitigation efforts started immediately. Impacts to shoreline noted as minimal. Who knows what that really means.

Link

Thanks for the link. We'll see, I guess.

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I generally like to fly fish whenever possible, but I do throw some traditional tackle as well when I'm saltwater fishing and the wind is annoying. Anyone have any experience using slayerinc lures?

Dave uses them a good bit I believe since they are a local company in his area.

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Got a bag of em I'v using just standard rootbeer gold flake body with chartreuse tail they work just like bass assasin swimbaits nothing fancy but effective.

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They are my favorites of the replaceable shad tail ilk. They have a large tail that sits relatively perpendicular to the body which gives them a lot of motion/vibration, even fishing them slow...which I tend to do.

Nice! Favorite color? Cockroach, chicken off the chain, and bounty hunter look great to me. How's their scent formula?

Bounty Hunter, Houdini, and Golden Brim are my favorites...probably in that order. Chicken off the Chain is essentially Houdini with chartreuse tail. Cockroach is Bounty Hunter w/ chartreuse.

P.s. anyone looking for a quick fishing report of lower bay check out leetolliveroutdoors.com

He used to write for the daily press but has since taken on a new job. Luckily for anglers he started a fishing report site :)

Well, he knows people I don't. Fishing's still poor around here. Trout are happening for some, but I know veteran trouters striking out.
I fished today for flounder, and caught two dink stripers. Dead as a doornail for me. The little stripers are around most structure, but reds? Nope. I'll believe the reds are around when I actually know someone who's caught more than one.

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Had the coolest day of inshore fishing I've had in awhile today.

Randomly decided to drop the boat in alone after work without checking conditions. It was blowing. Found a little sheltered eddy bank where the wind wasn't doing anything to the water. Destroyed an entire school of trout. Moved to the mouth of a creek 20 yards away and got a red. Then saw 50+ reds in groups of3-10 tailing this 100 yard stretch of bank. I missed so many hookk sets it was embarrassing.

Kept 2 solid slot reds all my trout were shorts.

Edit: Also of note. The bait is finally here in SC. Saw schools of hundred of Menhaden in shore. Massive schools of mullet, finger to 18". Pelicans diving everywhere. Decided to go ahead and net 40 or so mullet for the freezer to target some big bulls later.

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You didn't miss hooksets, they were just slapping it with their tails to fool you!

Sounds awesome though! Enjoy eating those reds!

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Not sure where they are at around Charleston, but OneFishyNurse on instagram has been catching a ton of big reds around jetties in the evening for the last two weeks.

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Yeah the big reds have been at the jettys here for a couple weeks. Lost one the other day. It ca get pretty combative there on the weekends and I like to avoid crowds

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Just made probably the best redfish I've ever eaten.

2 shell on filets
1/4 cup worschester sauce
1/4 cup olive oil
Season to taste with:
Lemon pepper rub
Cayenne
Paprika
Tony's
Salt
Pepper

Let that sit for 30 minutes or so

Pellet grill at 200 for 30ish minutes
350 till flakey.

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Meanwhile here on the Middle Peninsula, the fish think it's still February or something. No croakers yet, they should have been here by now. While some few are catching some trout, the report of redfish have been too spotty to count on (or even confidently believe), heard of one local flounder, a random little bluefish, and a bunch of short stripers. Worst spring since I moved here 8 years ago.
I will admit that I could be more intrepid, but hard to get excited about things here yet.

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I agree- success is all over VB but for some reason nothing has turned on up our way... I've been skunked at poquoson twice this year- both times everyone spoke of zero fish seen and caught. No bait anywhere...

However if it were going to turn on, it should be over the next few days with this nice weather... I hope. Less rain this week should help with salinity and warmer weather with water temps... hypothetically... then next week the sky will purge again all week...

With a mild winter I was really expecting the Spring to be great around here. Turns out we also had a mild Spring...friggin 55 degrees last Saturday around Seaford. Going to need some warm weeks before June for things to turn on.

"Can't argue with that logic" - Rick Sanchez

Yep, I think it's just not right yet. Like you, I was expecting a great spring due to the mild winter, but noooo.

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This has been a super weird spring. After hunting opening day for turkey in 32 degree temps to hunting the following week in 70 degree temps I figured we were in for a warmer spring but its been very mild/cool. Hoping these next few days of warming help and I'm planning on trying to fish the bay next week one day or so.

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It really doesn't make a ton of sense. And with the striper restrictions from the fall I would've thought they'd be heating up before the bay spring season... at least slightly better than normal.. I haven't even stumbled upon one.

Shoot, we had frost Wednesday morning and it will be 80's tomorrow. Always crazy temps in the valley in the Spring.

Richmond people- Anyone out there who frequent Watkins landing for smallmouth? I just moved close to there, and want to get a better idea of the type of fishing that goes on between the islands and the damn. Also if anyone has an extra spot in the back of their boat I would love to tag along one day, would obviously help with gas etc. I currently have a pond prowler with a trolling motor and frequent nottoway, powhatan lakes, etc but I am not taking my pos out on the James river by myself.. I eventually would like to get a jon boat so I can river fish as I grew up fishing the new and frequently go back (parents), but its been washed out/ cold.

Watching this because I will be moving there in two months.

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What part of town?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Mechanicsville

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Been out there many times- if you go in a jon boat with a motor, be careful there are a ton of huge boulders just under the surface at times that are practically invisible. Great fishing along the shorelines for Smallie's. One of my buddies caught a giant brown trout in there too, as well as a huge Muskie that ate his smallmouth he was reeling in. It can be really pretty (but terrible fishing) when the water is super clear.

Is it a good area to put in a kayak and paddle upriver and float back fishing (solo)? I recently got a kayak and want to fish the river these upcoming months and am really unsure where good spots are to put in.

Yes, that and hugenot flatwater you can paddle up river and float back down when the river is at normal levels.

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Awesome and yeah I had planned on hitting up Huguenot flatwater once the river chills out a bit. Thanks.

Yeah once it gets in more normal summer pattern. It is a nice place to relax and catch a few fish.

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Ufff. Sorry. I live ~12 mins from this put in and had hoped it would be my go to spot, but the reality is, it's awful for smallmouth. I can go to Scottsville and do a trip and catch 100; I can spend hours here and catch 2 on a good day. Go below the damn and you'll have better luck; go upstream and you'll have better luck, but this section is poor, and and full of jet skis, pleasure boaters, and people shooting their guns across the river (I've had to turn around several times b.c of this). Can you catch fish here? Yes. Are there better options? Pretty much everything else is better; between there and the damn is the single worst stretch of the James I've fished. Happy to take you out if you feel like getting a line wet, but unless you're fishing for cats, don't expect much.

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Thanks for the info

Headed to Bulls Bay this weekend for reds. Gonna bring my mess of frozen mullet for when the tides are productive for artificial, my guess is I'll end up catching 20 bonnet head when I do but oh well.

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Good luck! Just takes one to go from zero to hero.

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We've been on them thick in charleston. Had a nice 5 red 3 hours wednesday with a bunch of trout. Hit the slam twice yesterday. Hard to leave but the weekends here get disastrous with the amount of boaters, makes fishing harder so we've developed a weekly plan to just try less populated water on the weekends.

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Yep, I've been seeing your instagram stories. Definitely been on some nice fish. That makes a lot of sense to me. Good to get away from crowds and be on less pressured fish.

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Tangent...I finally got around to removing the rest of the bottom paint on my Scout...most of it looks great but found a nice chip/tear in the gelcoat down to the glass near the keel. Have you done any repair work like that? Any tips?.

While replacing my busted rusted springs and rewiring half the trailer, I noticed a similar chip on my hull. It was big enough to put my finger in. I went to the hardware store and bought a small repair kit. It was on the way underside of the boat, wasn't worried about looks, didn't plan to finish it, really, just fill in the hole. Worked great and I had enough to fill a couple of less serious dings in the bow. I really didn't think it was a problem, but since I did the repair, my bilge pump never has any water to pump, even after a day out. I've never had too much water to pump, but there was always water to pump, so apparently, it was coming in. The kit was under 25 bucks and worked like a charm for my simple need.
It was a marine repair kit.

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Sand down the area good so there is 0 bottom paint left. Take a dremel and widen the chipped gelcoat. Get a good gelcoat kit. West marine sells them or try to color match online. And follow the instructions its a pretty simple repair on smaller chips. Make sure to use a lot of tack cloth after sanding and dremeling. I like to use acetone too to clean the area make sure its fully evaporated before the gelcoat goes on.

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thanks much!

would you use a non-epoxy marine filler first or just go straight on the fiberglass with gel coat?

I'll admit I didn't want to do it "right", just to fill the hole. People do call me lazy...
I figure the hole had been there since I bought the boat back in 2013 and I never noticed it until last fall, so why go through the hassle of making it pretty on a 15 year old fishing boat? Persnickety, I ain't.

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Water is 61 at York Spit Light. Me thinks the cobia will be a tad bit late this year.

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I think you are right. Hatteras hasn't gotten them thick yet. Last year they were crushing them first week of May.

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Matt Lusk's boat got a nice one today.

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if anyone is interested i started a South Carolina fb page awhile ago. Just in the works of getting a state wide inshore tournament going. Still need my silly dnr approval and what not. The page is called SC Inshore Fishing Report if you're looking to follow updates on the tournament.

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Gonna be on the mobjack the next two days to warm up for the trip to Ocracoke next week hopefully the heat will get some fish to wake up

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Congratulations, by the way. Hope you aren't expecting much out of the ole 'Jack this week. Most folks aren't catching much other than some small stripers, the occasional white perch, a really random trout and rays...lots of rays. Some folks caught a few small spot, and I got those two small whiting from Williams Wharf, but not a croaker to be had. With the approach of the tropical system, might be a few days of inside activity, if you will, but maybe tomorrow morning before the wind gets up might be a great time to score. Tide's been running extremely low, too, so that will affect your efforts. Good luck and let us know if you get lucky. My neighbor did get a 22'' striper today, and said it had a bellyful of 1'' crabs.

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Thank ya it's been a whirlwind of a few days but thankfully the Mrs and I were able to wade fish the last few hours of the day today to help reset and wind it down. Managed one fat nice 17 inch speck and sent her back on the way to spawn. Otherwise could hardly fish any of my spots due to the insane amount of rays mating in all the creeks. Snagged one and fought it for God knows how long on my medium bass rod and bg3000 but I got it in and released miraculously. Never seen so many rays in the creeks. Did see a few specks chasing bait but they were very finicky. If you didn't know the date you'd think it was April with the water temps so low

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Pretty fish. Yep, between the insanely low tides and the muddy water and the absurd amount of rays, things just don't feel right out here right now. I lost patience with my first ray of the year after maybe 5 minutes of trying to get my jig and bait back from its wing. Finally tired of the game, cranked down on the drag and let 'er go. The next two I just palmed the spool and let them break off. Six pound test and a smallmouth rig will actually land them if I play them out, but if I never saw another cow nose ray in my lifetime it would be too soon.
So again, congratulations and I hope you have a relaxing week watching the wind and rain.

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Nothing beats a good cup of coffee on the front porch listening to it rain. Wish I couldve fished more but the weather made it tough. The rays were mating all over the east and north dunno if its even worth fishing around them. I would think they could churn up some stuff that fish might be into but then again dunno. I did really like the eye strike jig heads the hooks are shorter than the gotcha heads and offshore angler heads I was using but theyre way sharper. Time will tell but the speck I caught ate hard and didnt miss the shorter hook. Also gained an immense confidence in my non slip loop knot tying with that ray been slowly getting used to using it on everything its good for but hadnt had my knot tested like that.
Also for the super gel folks I used the saltwater formula stuff but it didnt seem to last more than a few casts before it was gone from the bait and I could just smell the plastic. Dunno if it was from all the vegetation scraping it off as the waters got lots of stuff like that and it just is what it is. Does it need more than a few minutes to cure on the bait? Might also be the bass assassin plastic its not very porous and maybe its not very receptive to scents. Might try putting a bit in the package and giving it some time to try and cure on them. Would love to get them scented as they catch me alot of fish.

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Personally, I think halfway is too far back. Tony doesn't discuss it but the gap on the hook is very important. Burying the hook is necessary in some applications but the more exposed the hook is, the better the hook set, imo. I don't mind the shorter hook shank as long as there is a good gap (there has to be a joke in there somewhere).

So here are some examples (laid out on my coffee cup holding legal pad). You'll recognize the Eye Strike head. The other head is a Slayer. The Slayer is about 1/4" longer from the eye to the bend. The tails are the MinnowZ, DieZel MinnowZ, Trout Trick (with the first 5 ribs cut off), and Slayer. The pre-rigged is my favorite Storm Wildeye.

I've yet to fish the trout trick rigged like this, but the others are proven fish catchers. The bait I miss the most hookups on is the Storm...when the tail gets pushed back under the hook when the fish tries to eat it. You can see how much further back the hook sits than the others.

And yes, I like these cross-brand pairings. The Slayer head gives a much better presentation when the floating Z-man sits at rest on the bottom. The eye strike is my preference with a retrieve in the water column (the slayer tail and head pairing is the last one of those I had in my tackle box, I use them exclusively with the eye strike heads now).

You think that the slayer head works better because of the angle of the eyelet or just the shape of the head?

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the shape/weight distribution in the head I think. I'm sure there are other brands that would do the same. The symmetrical, disk-like eye strike will roll to one side at times. the slayer always sits straight on the bottom and the angle of the head allows the bait to float at a steep angle. Not straight up like a mushroom head but not too far off.

It's hard to see but the Diezel in the pics below is actually on the crown of the bottom of the canning jar.

I'd be interested in if any action differences between the two but I cant imagine theyd be very different. Awesome comparisons of all of them though interesting to see how they all line up together. Just loaded up on the eye strike trout eyes, 1/0 and 2/0 for longer baits over 4 inches. Also got the texas eye jig head with the swivel lock I plan on using for the trout tricks and bigger swimbaits like the gold rush minnows for drum etc. I also want to try shrimp baits on the texas eye heads with the swivel head I feel like that would lead to some awesome bait movements that could help entice a hesitant strike. Have you seen the newer swimming trout trick? kind of interested to see how they perform but all I've read on the original trout trick they just look like a saltwater senko so rigging weedless with a weighted worm hook should produce as well.

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trout trick is new to me and haven't tried the swimming one at all. i think 3rd Gen has referenced it before...maybe

edit: I've noticed no difference in the action; I just like the bigger eye and slightly shorter shank.

My Texas buddies, who were phenomenal fishermen, schooled me on the shank/gap thing 25 years ago when we'd throw plastic shrimp tails for trout in Galveston Bay.

Yes, swimming trout trick produced lots of trout, a few puppy drum, flounder and striper last fall/winter. I haven't used it as much this spring because of wanting to be more weedless with the texas eye and it's a little small to rig on that.

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I grabbed a bag of the swimming trout tricks to try in purple death and theyre fried chicken color and will test them out once things warm up. Will update on if they work anybetter than the paddlerz or minnowz. Theyre a ribbed 3.5 inch swimbait that look like more finesse slower stuff so I'll give it a try this summer and next week while on ocracoke.

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The color I used was mood ring. Purple death has worked for me in diesel minnowz. I used a twitch twitch pause retrieve exclusively with the mood ring swimming trout trick.

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Texas eye finesse versions (I believe on a 1/0 hook) are about to release, they'll be perfect for swimming trout tricks, zman pogies, 3.75" streaks. Basically all the stuff that I normally throw.

Of note I've used the standard texas eye jigs on smaller baits. It still works fine as long as that hook is just before the skinniest part of the bait.

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Cool! I knew they were doing the XL Texas eyes. Didn't know they were doing them for small baits too.

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I know it sticks to a bucktail...I had to wash it off in soap and water to keep it from smelling up the tackle box.

It works really well in the belly cavity of swimbaits. I think the smell lasts longer than you can see the gel on there.

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I'll keep trying it and seeing if other baits hold it, might really just be the bass assassins they're a tough but very sheeny plastic that I could see scents having a tough time sticking to. It did seem to last on the zman swimbaits better in the brief time I used them I didnt have to reapply on them.

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Mine sticks well to the belly cavity that it changes the color slightly if it's more translucent. Zman has the paddlerz and jerk shadz that already scented too if you are worried about it.

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Cool cool I'll try it more and see how it does, I'm not too worried about it just wanna give myself a good chance for tight lines and figure scent would help. Also found zman makes scented curly tail grubs now so I'm gonna give a bag a go and see how they compare to gulp. Only colors they had were redbone and pearl white so no chartreuse but we shall see.

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zman makes scented curly tail grubs

I've been running these on a ned rig with a lot of luck. A little more body and action than the 3.75" streaks.

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Intriguing idea to use a ned rig hook what weight 1/10 ones?

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I use the lightest I can on the given day in wind/current. That's usually 1/6th Pro Shroomz weedless or the power finesse they have an actual hook not that wire that will bend immediately on a decent red.

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Hmmm I'll have to dig in the smallmouth box and take a few to try in saltwater. That said with the elaztech I'd imagine they float well enough on a regular jig head.

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For sure

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Brother in law caught some Spanish yesterday outside of Cape Lookout. Seas were 2-3

I fished the Lafayette yesterday with my wife. Caught two specks 17" and 14" on back to back casts. Only thing else was a 3" spot caught on a 3" gulp minnow. Tenacious little guy. Even though the fishing sucked we had a nice day to enjoy on the water

I finally got on the water (kind of) today. I was doing some cleaning and found a rubber spider. I don't have a fly rod anymore, so I tied it on a light spinning rod and walked to a pond about a mile from my house that is loaded with stunted bluegill. The spider was too big for most of the little stunted fish, but I managed 5 in about an hour.

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Fished the upper New hard on Thursday and yesterday. Six anglers Thursday, three yesterday. One fish caught Thursday, two yesterday. Water is up but the fish have lockjaw. Very weird as I've hammered them at these levels.

Wanted to fish Cascades Friday. Of course, despite being in the National Forest, it is closed. I ended up riding the WR250 past Mountain Lake, which is filling back up nicely and all over the fire roads leading to Butt Mountain. 75 miles round trip. It was fun.

Blacksburg is an absolute ghost town.

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Any pics of Mountain Lake filling back up? That is good news!

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Mountain Lake has filled and emptied forever, so filling back up is going to be year to year, I'd say. I have seen it in many incarnations of fillage going back to 1968. I dove off the rocks at the far end from the motel back when they'd sorta let you. Diving into deep clear water and looking down at the 30-35 year old stumps at the bottom gave me a good idea of some of the lake's history. My personal belief is that after average or several years of high rainfall, the lake fills up and in periods of prolonged drought, it empties. Simple hydro mechanics, nothing more mysterious or easily fixable than that. When the lake drains, local wells go dry and springs dry up. The lake is so high up, at the top of the water table, that when the springs that feed it are depleted, the same holes that fill it drain it. The efforts to stop up the holes and even drill a well to feed it have kept me amused. There's a fair amount written about the lake back in the olden days and how it would sometimes disappear. The owners have done the best they can with hiking trails and cabin upgrades, festivals, etc., but if the lake would stay full for a couple of decades in a row, they'd be pretty happy too.

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I didn't stop, just rode on past and because of the tree line could only see on the deep end. I remember in college (mid 00s) there being bass in it. If it empties and fills back up as often as Fish says it does, then I'd be surprised any of them live in it. The water was a gorgeous deep blue.

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The deep blue part is a huge improvement. The last time we were up that way (2 winters ago) it was very brown and only a small portion of the far West end of the lake (I think that is the deepest part).
I did not know of the constant empty/refill cycles fish mentions. I am surprised so much research was done on where the water went when it emptied this last time since I am sure some history about those cycles was known.

There is some history in this last emptying cycle. There was 1 known drowning in Mountain Lake - it happened back in the 1920s. During this cycle the man's body was found with some personal items that helped identify him (he was a graduate of what is know Clemson University). Here's the article:
https://www.roanoke.com/news/mystery-at-mountain-lake-explained/article_d49ec2d3-ab6d-5dd5-804a-78f60732f537.html

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There are accounts I've read a while back about visiting the lake back in the 1800s I think, and another that noted that adventurers had searched for the lake one year and couldn't find a lake anywhere. I was living in Giles when that guy's remains were found in the mud. Lots of people were walking around out there when the lake was down to a small stream running along the bottom.
I was told that the reason they call that mountain Salt Pond Mountain is that the farmers would let their cattle graze fairly unrestricted, but placed salt blocks around the pond that is Mountain Lake since water was scarce up there and the cattle needed salt and water, so they stayed close by.
As far as I know, there were no studies about where the water went, but they tried to drill a well to try to refill it but couldn't find water. This wasn't all that long ago. And it's not like this happens every few years regularly or anything. It happens, stays filled or dry, goes through the stages of filling and draining, according to the cycle of groundwater. No science, though, and I can't remember where I read all that stuff, I lived there this past time for 26 years, and it was long enough ago that I cannot recall. My conclusions about why are just conjecture on my part, but I haven't seen anything else that explains it to my satisfaction.

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I fished it in the '70s, also when I swam in it. You used to could rent jonboats and row or paddle around and fish. Small bass and bluegills for us. Never saw big fish when diving in, but they had pictures of big trout and some decent bass in the boathouse. The fish were stocked, and they were catching trout in it before it drained down this past time, which started several years ago. Up and down some in that time, but not staying up. I mean, if it stays full up for 50 years it's plenty of time for fish to thrive and get big.

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One of my professors in Civil talked about the lake and how the seepage worked and sometimes it could plug up. It's been a few years so my memory isn't super clear on it.

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While I agree that the drainage can "plug up" some, people for years tried to do that themselves with mattresses and debris, etc., but the fact remains that drought is the determinant factor. Whether the "plugs" actually kept the water in isn't sure, but if the water can't get out, it wouldn't be getting in except for rainfall, and there isn't enough up there to keep that lake full. The thing's essentially a high water spring seep. As one of only two natural lakes in Virginia, it gets a lot of attention, but not much study.

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I went back to the pond today. The fish in the south end (most numbers) were very line shy. I walked a loop around the pond and found some bluegill on beds near some lily pads. They were much more aggressive. I caught 10 or so and then left them alone. I did see a decent little bass but it showed no interest in the spider fly.

Then, I came home, ate some chicken fried rice, and watched videos like this. I am ready for cobia.

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I am taking my nephew fishing tomorrow at Clearbrook Park just north of Winchester tomorrow. Hopefully the bluegills or trout will cooperate.

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Good luck! Brings back memories. I didn't get to go there this year due to Covid. My sister, her fianc茅, and I try to go at least once a year.

There's a guy in West Virginia who has a YouTube channel, FishHawk I think it is, and he has a good video on catching trout at Clearbrook.

Take an M 80 and MAKE 'em cooperate, French. Gotta larn that nephew right, know what I mean? Teach 'im the ropes so he can fish like a MAN!

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I was doing some cleaning in my desk today during lunch and found a good one for all you Cobia fans. This is back from when I was still an early 20s baby and was getting out almost every day. 55 pounds and about a week's worth of of delicious sandwiches.. For size reference, I'm about 5'7

I miss these days

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Works been slow so got bored and did some stainless 304 engraving with oxygen and put a clean powder coat on it for looks. Hopefully this will get alot of use for the next few years.

For the musky people, st croix is retiring the mojo musky line up so theyre at 30% off now.
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I love the bump board!

Fortunately (or unfortunately for my wallet) the Mojo Musky series will continue, this is just the old model with cork. The new model is now more expensive and uses winn grips instead. I have the old model with cork and LOVE it (76HF model) but picked up a new one at a musky expo and really wish I had the new one lol.

No that whole Mojo series is great!

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Anyone have info on fishing Buggs Island? I'm in Salem and my parents are in Norfolk, so we figured that would be a good halfway spot to be able to fish together. Would need a pier/shoreline access since we don't have a boat. I've looked on the vdgif website and they mention North Bend Park, but I can't tell if that is open or not and if it has day access for just fishing.

Buggs Island Report: Most of the shore access and boat ramps were inaccessible. Found one small pier near the power plant and in our group of 3, one carp and one channel cat was all that was caught. Overall a nice day and will definitely visit when conditions are better. In the end, getting to spend time with family was worth the trip.

I live 30 seconds from a marina on Chisman Creek (Thomas Marina for those who are familiar). I am going to try to fish in my yak this weekend and all next week as the weather warms. Anyone have any artificial recommendations? I have gulps and z-mans already! Going to fish docks to start and see what happens.

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There are some good points through Chisman, I would swing over to hog island area to fish some banks as well. Let us know how you do. I've been waiting for that area to heat up.

Flounder fun continues. This one was a healthy 17". No doormats yet, but plenty of quantity.

Please send a few this way, would you? Those 17s eat pretty darned good, glad you all are getting into them. Been a long time since I could say plenty of quantity and be talking about flounder.

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Millworms and bobbers produced chunky bluegills and pumpkinseeds. I didn't even have time to rig up the salmon egg carolina rig for the trout. Little man got 8, all by himself minus the unhooking part.

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Awesome! Glad yall got on some fish. I'm surprised those meal worms didn't get a trout. I've caught quite a few in Clearbrook and Winchester lakes using that technique. I'm excited to take my kids surf fishing for the next week. Kids don't care what species or size, it's all exciting to them.

There was so much algae that it was challenging enough to show him how to cast and get it into open pockets. To his credit, he used a legitimate spinning rod (a Shimano Nasci paired with a Nexave rod) and did pretty well.

All the fish stayed well off the shoreline. It was difficult to figure out where to access good water. But once we got a bead, the bream were really nice sized. They were "no doubters."

The only negative part of the day is that these were big enough that they swallowed size 6 hooks. So, some ducks got some dinner.

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I know the struggle. That lake is notorious for algae growth. It'll stay that way all summer.

I've been fishing since 7 until now (9 am). Caught 7-8 catfish and a decent whiting. Can't keep the catfish off my line. Hanging around until 11 or so. High tide is supposedly around 10-1030 I think.

Decided to go further south so the kids can have calmer beaches to play on but still pretty rough. 3-5' and close together. Tried the Gulp slow on the bottom but I can't throw enough weight to keep it on the bottom so I bagged that for today.

Catfish and whiting in the same place?

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Yep. Actually caught a double. Catfish on one hook of my double rig and a whiting on the other. I believe these are called hard head catfish, a variety of saltwater catfish that apparently aren't good to eat. The biggest one I've ever caught was 13", and most of the 50-60 or so I've caught in the last few years have been like 9-10". Just bait thiefs in my book.

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Where we go to fish in Florida the catfish are all over the bottom so we don't bottom rig fish at all due to their peskyness. We throw swimbaits and gulp baits on 1/4 to 3/4 jig heads depending on roughness and just try a mixture of retrieves until one works. When it's rough a straight retrieve works well keep it a foot or two under the surface and steady should entice Jack's and whatever else is there. A gold spoon is also never a bad idea

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Usually I bottom fish because I'm hanging with the family, sandcastle architecting, and other stuff. The more active and focus-requiring tactics typically aren't an option.

I find that when I catch a lot of cats, I don't catch much else. But at least half the times I've fished, I've caught a lot of whiting and few catfish, using bottom rigs.

On the rap?

Not sure what the Rap is. I'm in Florida for the week.

Tested out the slayer inc sst "brim reaper" pattern last night with some good success on a local pond as a rigging test run..excited to try them in the salt. However, once I switched back to my fly rod with a popper it was game on. 15 fish in 45min with the largest coming in at just under 4lbs. Good times.

OK, for the first of the year in Mathews area that I've heard of, someone caught an "eating" sized croaker from Williams Wharf yesterday. One. Whiting and dink spot along with the stupid rays is all else I've heard about from there. Judging by the numbers of boats out this weekend, though, somebody should be catching fish. The trouters I've spoken with haven't had much luck, managing one or two at best. The water temps continue to go up and down again, not really getting much traction yet.
A local said the crab pots are the farthest up our creek he'd seen in 20 years, for what that's worth.
At this point, this year around this neck of the Bay remains an unopened book for me, anyway.

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Ablative paint gone, renovation work done (for awhile)

Looks great, what type of boat is it? Looks like ~17-19' shallow drafter

Pretty work there

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smaller...older Scout 145 w/ more recent 50 yammie 4 stroke.

previous owner used it as a tender and had it bottom painted

Nice, what does that draft? Like 10"

That's spot on

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Fished Big Run in SNP yesterday with my younger brother. We we third in line for the reopening of the park at 8am (they let us in 30 minutes early). We were definitely the first ones down to the stream and started fishing around 10 since the hike down to the stream is so long. No surprise the hike back out is just brutal. I picked up a nice brookie in the first pool and a bunch more as we moved upstream. After a few hours of getting stuck in trees, missing countless strikes, struggling with line control and one "I quit" moment my brother finally caught his first native Brook 鈥 a solid 8" fish. Really hoping he's caught the fly bug for good now. I was surprised even with the struggles and the long hike he had a blast and was genuinely excited to go back all because of one fish.

Yep, tough hike down, rough hike back up, but Big Run was always one of my favorites back in the late 70s. So few folks were willing to take the hikes that it was seldom fished and we always caught a bunch of trout. We'd start at the top and fish down, one on each side of the stream, taking turns on first casts. When we reached our time limit, we'd break for lunch, then fish our way back up to the base of the mountain, then hike out. We used small Panther Martin spinners, gold with the yellow tail and little red thread. A lot easier than trying to fly fish it, especially with two of us, those brookies were fools for that spinner. Never saw another fisherman, though I know of people who would park somewhere in the valley and fish up it some. I don't think we ever caught one more than 14", but there were a ton of fish there in those days, and 12" fish were fairly common. Haven't been since early '80s, so don't know what it's like any more, but it was good to read your post and know the stream's still a good one.

Edit: OK, I see that I've already told this story. Man, I'm getting older faster than I thought. I didn't mention the name of the stream in the first mention, but Big Run it was. Sorry, got CRS.

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No worries. I pictured Big Run in my head when you previously mentioned that remote stream. It sure looks like it would still hold some big fish and I've heard rumors of 15" brooks. We were hoping to find one but didn't get any over 9" or 10". My brother missed one that looked bigger but we'll never know. It was only my second time making the hike. The first time was during a drought and the water was super low so it was almost unrecognizable on Saturday. Next time I'd like to hike in and camp overnight to have more time to fish (and sleep).

Took my wife and our dog down there once for an overnight. Toughest thing was the hauling, we weren't trail hikers and our gear was "suspect" at best. The pint of Jack Daniels and the campfire rounded it all off and while we enjoyed it, we never felt moved to repeat.
Definitely saw some bigger fish in the day, but like I said, never caught one over 14.

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Good to know. I can't imagine attempting it with anything less than the minimal supplies needed. I think a 14" fish would certainly make the hike out seem shorter.
Last time I was there I did see a smallmouth in one of the deeper pools downstream. Did you ever catch any?

No I haven't and that is disturbing news. Invasive species in this instance and not a good fit for a brookie stream.

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Nothing much to report from Ocracoke, the colder weather and clouds followed us here nothing like the surf being much warmer then the air. No fish from the surf this afternoon. Casted a curly tail scented jig for a long while with no bites, might need more weight. One large thing to note there are an unholy amount of crabs mating and shedding in the surf gotta wear shoes if you wade unless you wanna get picked apart by the mean little shit heads that bury in the sand.

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Head into the sound. The speckled trout bite is on fire right now!

Heading to Portsmouth island today for a shelling trip with the Mrs but I'm bringing one rod to throw trout baits. Might try the sound tomorrow in the kayaks to see if I can find them

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Rig up a popping cork. Anywhere along marsh lines should produce well

That's on the menu for tomorrow put in serious miles and hours casting the surf on Portsmouth island this morning and threw everything short of the kitchen sink. Had two drum miss a swimbait hook, 3/0 worm hook on a 3 inch swimbait and still whiffed on it. Tried a gold spoon for a while to no avail and finally caught one whiting on some gulp curly tails until they got so small they couldn't even bite the hook. Tomorrow the plan is head to the sound in the yaks and I was gonna start out with popping corks and gulp shrimp to start and find some fish then switch to swimbaits and try without the corks

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Random, has anyone tried a popping cork in freshwater, or know if it works?

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dragging a 1/32 jig (curly or tube) under a standard freshwater bobber used to work for crappie back in the day. that's all I got

Much obliged.

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Additionally, I used to use the same small jigs with a slip bobber rig. It allows you to control depth pretty well while covering a good amount of the water column, which I found useful for suspending panfish in the warmer months after the spawn.

First crappies I ever caught on artificials came this way. Toss, give a pop and wait for the jig to catch up and suspend, repeat. Used to do the same with fly line floats and flies around structure up at Gatewood Res. in Pulaski, with good results. Key is lots of crappies and proper jig depth. At Claytor Lake in the spring, many people did this working the shoreline looking for spawning groups around log and brush piles. The key definitely seemed to be to let the jig swing back to vertical and sit for a second before jigging it again. Fun to see that bobber just sinking away slowly but steadily, sure sign of a crappie. No real hook set necessary, the bobber's resistance usually hooking the fish. Great way for a kid to load up on them without lots of hang ups, and the bobber gives the rig enough weight to cast a ways. Slip bobbers are perfect for this, but I never did get the hang of them.

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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like it doesn't offer any real advantage over a standard bobber/slip bobber setup.

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maybe when fish are schooling like stripers/hybrids...maybe?

there are so many topwater and suspension baits designed to be noisy (and you can add rattles to soft baits)...even popping bugs for panfish...I'm not sure what the advantage would be most of the time

Popping corks do attract fish, the bobber-jig thing isn't intended to do that, but to add to the casting ability with a light lure, and to hold the jig in the strike zone better. Not saying the topwater disturbance doesn't attract them, maybe it does, but that's not the purpose. Popping cork for crappies doesn't pass the test for me.
Like you said, though, for stripers/hybrids, I say yeah, why not?

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I've also wondered if this will work. I've only ever made a few casts with a popping cork in freshwater. A popper/dropper on a fly rod is similar. Not as much commotion on the surface but I've had success with it for largemouth on both the popper and the streamer below. I think a true popping cork would work if you find some landlocked stripers feeding near the surface (or subsurface on your fish finder). The bigger fish tend to hold deeper than the smaller ones breaking the surface. The loud popping cork might call up the fish close enough to the surface for them to see the bait below. No experience to back this up just my thoughts.

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I've always thought that would be a good idea and as you get older and the skin loosens the fish start getting longer as well!

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I know there aren't a lot of freshwater guys here, but I hit Lake Anna this morning before the crowds set in, and the little guy and I had a blast - 20+ fish in a few hours, with 6 different species. Lots of action mid-lake, w/ fish keying on grass and docks. Color made a huge difference - they were full UVa, orange or blue, anything else was off menu.

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20+ fish on lake Anna is an achievement to be proud of glad to see they're still there.

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This has been my general experience there as well - more times than not, she lives up to that 'one fish Anna' nickname. It's a large lake, and instead of being smart about taking a day or two to map the water and find locations that will hold fish, I just run around looking for something 'fishy'.

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If you want to catch some stripers/wipers (and sometimes bass) there is a fairly reliable top water bite at Dyke 3 down near the dam. It's where the warm side of the lake discharges back into the cold side. Get there at first light (well before sunrise) and motor up to just below the discharge. Don't get too close or you'll piss off the shore fishermen. There's a cove on the left side that you can hang out it to get out of the current. Be careful on the way in as the left shoreline is an old rock quarry so keep your distance. Just sit and wait for a few minutes until you see (or usually hear) the fish breaking and then push out into the current with your trolling motor and float down to them. Current is surprisingly strong and it'll swirl different directions too. Throw top water (spooks), flukes and swim baits in natural colors (I like pearl/silver with a chartreuse tail). Streamers on a fly rod also work well. They're usually feeding on threadfIn shad that are around 3" long. Some mornings you'll only get a few fish breaking a few times. Other mornings they'll be huge schools breaking off and on for a couple hours. It can be a lot of fun. Overcast mornings are best as the fish usually shut off once the sun gets bright. If you can't find them breaking (or they turned off) they'll often be feeding subsurface in adjacent deeper water and can be caught on spoons and swimbaits.
You can also cruise the mid lake region just above and below the 208 bridge at first light Looking for breaking fish but that's a lot of water to cover. There are dock lights that can be productive in the same areas.

This is a good post. It sounds very finials to fishing Calvert Cliffs

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Wow, this is fantastic info, thank you for sharing. I'll definitely give that a try and let you know if we have any luck. Hopefully it won't be too long before we get out there again.

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No problem. As far as access there is a marina that opened recently next to the dam. It would be only a couple minutes away via boat. No guarantee it's still open (a couple have tried and failed there). You can also launch a kayak or fish from shore right at the discharge. Most of the fish you catch are in the 14-19" range but if you can get a bait to stay deeper in the current you can find a keeper (20"). Either way it's fun on light tackle.

I'm pretty excited to give this a try. Think I found that marina you were talking about (Pleasants Landing), I'll give them a call before I go and see if they're open.

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Caught some croaker this weekend around the Chisman Creek area, but no trout or puppy drum yet. I think it is going to happen soon however. I can report a close friend of mine caught one fish in an afternoon session yesterday...and it was about an 18" puppy drum in Wilton Creek off the Piankatank. That to me is fantastic news for the summer.

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Great to hear! Thanks!

I got reports of a handful of cobia caught and spotted in the western side of the Bay, despite cold water. Most local guys went south to Oregon Inlet before the weather went to crap.

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I believe I saw the Finao team whack a couple down there.

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Several others did too.

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Going for some longnose gar in the James around Richmond (once the water level descends some). I've seen some at Pony Pasture and thought I'd try there first. I've read up that smaller crankbaits are the way to go, but they can still be very tough to hook. Any tips and tricks?

Never done it, but am curious to hear what others say. I remember talking w/ one of the locals at the Maidens put in and he said to use rope - the inner stuffings of it. That's it. Not even a friggin' hook. Per this guy, the rope gets all tangled in their teeth and they can't get off. Sure enough, it's plausible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFdDYG79lc.

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I've heard that as well, might be fun just to try

My old boss has dozens of citations of gar and he did it on the fly and spinning. Usually out bait in a serious mesh of braid and would catch them once they got the was of bait ensared in their mouth and the braid was much better than trying to actually hook them. Never asked what was the bait of usual pickings

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We couldn't ever get them hooked when I used to be around them, but finally came up with a bait that seemed to work. We took a big dead minnow, we fresh killed them and smushed them up a bit, and put them on a treble hook and tossed 'em out with a bobber and no weight where the gar were rolling. The'd eat the minnow, and we had a fair chance of landing them. After a couple apiece, we tired of it, but it did work. I do like the entanglement approach, sounds like fun until you have to get them untangled. Yikes!

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I'll try to rig up something for both strategies and we'll see what happens. I have a pretty long pair of pliers that I use to dehook other toothy fish. Luckily gar do very well out of water compared to most fish so I can relatively take my time if I get lucky enough to catch one.

No need to go real big on the treble, as I recall we did best on smaller/medium ones, and we did tie a short heavy mono leader to help keep from them biting off. We would drift a couple behind the boat as we drifted casting for crappies and white bass, but did best when we found them in shallower water either feeding or spawning, or whatever had them rolling around.

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Anyone ever find a decent pair of fishing shoes? I'm almost always barefoot on my boat and it was enjoyable until I got a little caught up on an oyster bed and had to hop in with flip flops, which ended predictably poorly.

I've considered xtratuffs but they're horrendous looking.

Need something with a durable sole and decent topside that'll fit snug enough to not become lost to the marsh mud (RIP Sperry Flip Flops)

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Chacos aren't the style for everyone, but they're very hardy shoes and comfortable once you break them in

My bud in the boat was wearing chacos (personally never liked them) also gashed his feet good. Once you sink in the mud here a little the top of your feet needs covered too.

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I have heard good things about soft science shoes from multiple people. I wear chacos but see the downfall if you are in oysters in mud. Xtratuffs deck boots wouldn't work good because I feel like they would get yanked off in the mud.

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Chacos are also terrible around any kind of moisture and dirt/sand/grit because then you've got wet straps trapping that stuff under them and being super abrasive on your feet. I don't even like wading into water while wearing em for that reason.

I'm on my fourth (maybe fifth?) pair of Under Armour Kilchis. I've tried other offerings, but these are light, comfortable, and drain very fast. Other shoes that drain water allow rocks, mud, etc. to come through the sides/bottom, but these do not.

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I can usually find them on sale for 50 or so, sometimes cheaper during the winter.

non-marking like they say?

Not really sure, to be honest. I rarely wear them anywhere but on the kayak/raft. After a year on the water, they become yard work shoes.

Also horrendous to some, but I find crocs are great shoes to fish in. Also good for the terrain underwater!

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I have a pair of Crocs that are more like Keens, with toe guard and top straps that protect the foot somewhat when you must wade or get an active treble hooked fish flopping around in the boat. Still had a striper put a fin into my foot that took three months to work its way out, so that didn't work. Oyster beds are another level of razors looking for your flesh, to go with fins and hooks and knives.
With the amount of flesh eating bacteria in our waters, fresh and salt, anything that doesn't totally protect the foot is either foolish or at best, a calculated risk. You never know when or where you might need to exit your boat, or what you may have to go through to fix or escape the situation.

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Can't argue that, just been wearing them for years. I also got a pair of xtratufs recently as a gift, so we will see how those work out just as deck/above the water boots.

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You can get away with a lot on deck or on dock, if you are able to avoid fins and hooks and knives, but it's what happens when you least expect it that can do you in. I swore by regular Crocs and have worn them for 15 years, but I didn't wear them on the river, and other than the ones I mentioned above, will never be caught dead wearing them in a boat again.
Look, we can't live life worrying about what ifs and maybes, I know this, but please give at least a thought to the words of someone who has lived long enough to see many of the things you can only hope to avoid on or in the water, and make the decisions based on cautionary tales that are offered from the words of experience and more than 60 years on the water. I mean, how many folks fishing the New River have ever heard of the heel splitter mussle? How many of you expect to have to wade through 30 yards of oyster beds to save your lives? How many of you have had a large treble hook in the mouth of a really big fish flopping about in your boat go an inch into the top of your foot? How many have stepped on a rusted out railroad spike when walking through the sand on Key Largo to your boat in your flip flops? How many have had fins stay in your foot for months? Then go on to the litany of flesh eating bacteria horror stories, luckily not a personal experience, but one I know of from friends, one even resulting in death?
It's a cold cruel world out there and a sunny day isn't a shield from disaster, so prepare, protect thyselves and catch fish, but not catastrophy.
Sorry for the rant, bad day here at the Fish house, and I'm super sensitive right now after digging the fourth grave in 8 years and losing one too many of my beloved dogs, so please forgive my pedantic post.

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Many people on this board take your advice like the Godfather and I think I can speak for all that it is deeply appreciated. I am so sorry to hear of your loss Fish, thoughts and prayers are with you!

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A lot of what fish said is why I asked this. I was pretty fortunate that my boat spun off the beds into deep enough water to get out. I was in bulls bay over looking a mile flat 1ft in 30kt wind thinking. This is going to be a very awful walk if I really need to get out of here.

I'm by no means planning on wading oysters but I realized quickly I needed something on the boat that would give me some protection.

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True that. I used to keep an old pair of high top Keds for just such an occasion. Never needed them, they actually rotted from age and damp storage, but you get the drift.

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Sorry to hear about your dog. That's tough duty. Dogs deserve so much respect.

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Appreciate that. We didn't have kids, so for us, dogs are as close as we'll get. Down to one pet now for the first time in over 40 years, but it was time as we are nearing the end of our journey as well.
The virus made it even worse, weren't allowed to go in with her for the end but we needed to do it then for all of our sakes, so it was even more emotional than ever.

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I've got some Simms currents shoes. I love them for on the boat (non-slip gum colored soles)- I also used them as wet wade shoes in the Bahamas for bones on the fly. Would recommend em!

Good to hear, no issues with sand and stuff coming through them too much?

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Got sand in them, but the elastic heel support keeps enough pressure too keep shells and an over abundance of sand out. Drain water really well too. The insole is a super dense type of foam also that doesn't absorb odors or anything. Like I said- great shoes

Got the adidas mesh wading shoes they're comfy and nice in sand they can be a bit tricky so I avoid em if it's sandy. Otherwise it's always Crocs them suckers will always get it done

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I have a friend who uses Merrell hydro mocs

They look like Tesla Crocs but he loves em

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Finally found some drum today while trying to find the trout. Got one decent door mat and on light tackle that was a crazy fight for a flattie. Lost a hog of a bluefish when he got his teeth to the line. Wind is gonna switch tonight to out of the southeast then out of the due east later in the week making sound fishing different. Hoping to sneak out in breaks in the weather to snag a few more fish as the week goes on. What's a good bait for chucking in the surf with medium gear? Was trying a curly tail grub and a swimbait but wondering if there's a bait I missed?

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Stingsilver is you want spanish or blues

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Also have good luck casting Gotcha plugs into the surf for the above mentioned species.

Edit: Turns out people don't cast those from the shore due to the action you need to be higher than the bait...most of my surf fishing is from behind the surf in a boat.

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Yep, seems that the Gotcha is probably better fished from a pier than most any other way.

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Snagged a few bluefish this morning on a big stingsilver solid advice as always. That said my smallmouth setups a bit small for chucking them.

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Yep, not easy to throw the surf stingsilver (which usually has to be bigger than the 1oz.) The ideal stingsilver rod is a MH super fast action 8-9 foot spinning rod.

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Agree, Tsunami Airwave is a good budget option for this role. I like using lighter metal jigs but sometimes you can't with the current.

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Trade winds has a tica medium heavy surf rod that's fast action 8 foot with a Penn battle 4000 on it for 180$ and the wife gave me the go ahead so I may grab that and go Chuck silver in the surf

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If you run into more bigger blues. Throw a 5" popper so they choke and can't get to your leader. Also with the wind speed and direction, the water will be all stirred up and nasty so I wouldn't bother throwing lures in the surf much. Maybe look for blues/spanish at first light. Fish close to the shore from the sound with the wind at your back so it affects you the least.

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Forgot to mention to you but MirroDine Heavy in Blue over Green for the surf is what I've been told.

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Fished a private lake I have access to in WV the past six days. It's an annual camping trip for me with a lot of old friends. 35 years and I still haven't missed one party. From the fishing standpoint, I caught 50 plus Bluegills and a few Pumpkinseeds, all 8-11". If I had tried harder and drank less it would have easily been 100. The 2 pound bass had lockjaw but that's fine by me. I'm there to catch the monster bluegills.

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Here's a pic of the lake from the dam:

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Well the wind switched to south east so the surf got chocolate brown after lunch. Tried to go fish the sound but the tropical storms kept blowing up fast so we didn't risk it. Remembered I had an 11 foot med heavy mojo surf rod and a Shimano 5500 C14+ so I went to trade winds and got a couple more stingsilvers after snapping my only one off this morning. Chucking 2 ounce stings is alot easier with a beefy setup I was hitting the first sand bar easy but the water was brown and the mackerel and blues never showed. Gonna hit the sound the rest of the week with the wind sticking to 10-20 out of the south east.

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That sounds like a good plan to me. Not going to be productive on lures with that kinda water in surf.

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That's just a fact, but those bluefish are probably still out there and will fall for some cut mullet on bright day glo double float rigs if you can hold bottom.

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Agree with you on that. Blues and drum will still hit bait in ugly water.

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Yep, and there have been a handful of 30-40 inch class blues spread from Wilimington to Delaware. Not great numbers, but a chunk may be a good strategy.

Also, I hear the big sharks are thick if you just want some pulling.

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Talked to the guy at tradewinds for a while he said things are in the funky period where most fish are caught by women and children right now since everything is right near shore in the surf right now. He said a few medium sized blues and lots of sharks but also alot of skates. Saw a few dozen skates sound side today on the flats and fortunately didn't snag any trolling curly tails for flounder.

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Spoken by the man whose wife consistently outfishes him, right?
After reading the below, though, it does sound like you have stepped up your game.
Best of luck to you tomorrow, still pretty iffy here, but I've heard a few reports of interest, like a Spanish caught near an East River dock by a trout fisherman.

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I think I'm gonna have to calculate a handicap like people do in golf for when I fish with the wife. Before this week she didn't know how to fish saltwater for trout and drum. 2 days on the water and she's out fishing me left and right. I use the she's using gulp and I'm not excuse but oh well can't be that bad except for my pride. Gonna go further north up the island tomorrow and get to some deeper creeks the shallow flats are something I can't figure out right now.

Spanish from the docks on the east sounds nice. I go to the beach to find Spanish in the surf and they're in my backyard of course.

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I've heard multiple people say that bass fisherman can turn into the best inshore fisherman because of all their prior techniques learned and patterning skills.

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In all fairness, it was only one Spanish, it was unusual, and he was in a nice Carolina Skiff with a new bow mount trolling motor fishing around the docks hoping for trout or reds. You know, that's really what you need, for like a wedding gift to you both, y'know?

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Glad to hear things are coming to life slowly I'm hoping by the middle of June things will be awake so I can spend more time down on the water there. With the smallmouth bite picking up I need a good reason to leave that for a speck or drum bite.
With all that's going on just getting to have a small family only wedding was a gift enough for me if I can find a decent boat ill get it once I have somewhere to store it. In mean time a man can dream check these boats out.
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just getting to have a small family only wedding was a gift enough for me

congrats on the wedding. our son and new daughter in law did the same...her family only as they were local. we are glad they stuck with it and I'm sure y'all are happy you stayed the course as well.

Soaked bait at flagler for a few hours this morning. Nothing. Didn't get a single take. Warm. Light breeze out of the south-southwest. Sunny and quite clear water.

Lifeguard training was ongoing and every one of them looked like they were 12 years old and completely incapable of saving someone my size. Perhaps I'm getting old and looks are deceiving.

did you try yesterday a.m.?

it was clear/calm enough that I finally got to test the new prop. Wife and I ran down to Marineland on the ICW. not much traffic on the river and got back in time to give it a wash down and get it covered before the storms kicked in

I didn't unfortunately. I had planned on it but got roped into doing things in the pool with the kids. Oh well. Glad you got out. I'm hoping to try Varn or Jungle Hut one day before I have to leave paradise and head back to the mountains.

how far is it up to the inlet for you?

Just under 30 minutes. Is it worth the drive? I've never fished there and not sure how to approach it.

you are further south than i thought....probably not worth it flying blind

I don't mind the drive and I don't mind learning a new place. Are there any safety issues to consider at the inlet? I've heard the current can be crazy but not sure if it's a safety thing or not. I've always wanted to try fishing there but I really wouldn't know the first thing about where to go (river side, in the inlet, or on the ocean side) nor would I understand any specific tactics other than soaking bait. I'm still at the point where calling me a saltwater novice is being generous.

other than sharks, the only safety issues are if you wade the bars on the inside. I'd use your standard surf tactics either side of low tide (soaking bait on the bottom in cuts or run outs inside the first bar) on the section of beach between the east parking lot south to the inlet...but that is just a WAG on my part.

Generally speaking, the closer you are to an inlet around here, the more fish you are going to have access to.

Man I see why so many people drop money for a power boat after today. Wind switched to south south west and made a long day for fishing the south end of ocracoke by kayak. The terrain has changed since I last did it and it's all a big sandbar it seems no more deep creeks. Found some bigger oyster baskets but pulled nada off em. Tried all kinds of baits even gulp struggled, found one little puppy drum at the end but after paddling near 8 miles in that wind i might have the wife ready to let me get a boat. Gonna walk the beach at dusk and carry the stingsilvers rod just in case

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Good luck with the stingsilver. As my dad told me, "fire it and play motorboat."

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Between paddling all day and throwing the stingsilvers for the last two hours of daylight I'm go na retire to a beer or two. Surf calmed nicely today but still churned up. Chucked it anyway saw some larger fish jumping all over past the sandbar just out of reach but got a nice sunset. Hopefully it clears up a little for tomorrow

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after paddling near 8 miles in that wind i might have the wife ready to let me get a boat.

whatever it takes

My diabolical plan is working she mentioned a motorized boat would be nice over our early dinner. Might do another big paddle trip just to seal the deal tomorrow

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a simple 16' fiberglass skiff/or extra wide welded jon with a 30 tiller is easy to tow, easy to maintain, easy on gas, will go a lot of places, can be rigged a zillion ways, and will get you to a lot of fish.

I've already found a nice 19 foot shoal cat that needs some fixing up so hopefully can get it cheap o, but I gotta get the sign off first. I need something small enough to tow with my pickup and this boats the right size I think.

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It will also cause cartilage loss in the knees.

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He's young, he can take it.

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LOL

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Was actually talking with flyguy about our sound crossing in a skiff on Monday damn near bit my tongue off going into the wind. I'll be looking for something other than a skiff I think. When I'm back from vacation I'll upload pics of a boat I might work on needs some fiberglass work and some tlc but would be a cheap start up

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Just saw a youtube video posted from last night at the Gloucester pier on the York river, guy caught a ton of specks and puppy drum on artificial :)

They're almost here!

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I was hoping to get out on the water tomorrow for some bowfin exploration, but nope, my fucking truck is now misfiring on a piston. Just a minor $5000-$10,000 repair depending on what I decide to do. Sigh. Thoughts and prayers needed for Truck Norris and my bank account, this is not good.

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Seriously, man. You need to get started on that book.

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There isn't a good story behind this one, just pure bad luck.

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Gonna make Dave jealous a bit more- I hit my bridge spot before work Friday morning with the spinning gear (not enough room for fly gear) and landed 5 snook between 20 and 25 inches in less than an hour. Had a solid eat by something I'm guessing to be a monster jack or small tarpon, but was in so much awe by the explosion that I totally rookied the hook set and damn near whacked myself in the face with the bait. Went again this afternoon and grabbed another 2 snook before the rain came hard. Hopefully the weatherman wont suck at his job again and I can hit the beach with fly gear in the morning before work tomorrow. Alot of reports of solid snook running our beaches now.

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Pulled it right out of the mouth of a big one?

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Haha, I dont know how big the actual fish was, but the explosion resembled a small missile hitting the water.

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congrats...you sorry bastard : )

one of these days I'm going to get down there

Bring the boat and we'll hammer on them!

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definite possibility

Nice Work! That many snook in a short time is doin work!

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They just love that spot. There's so much current sweeping bait from the adjacent grass flat and a ton of structure for them to hide behind and wait. Find the right color for the water/light conditions that day and you could stay hooked up until the tide goes slack.

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This sounds like a place I need to investigate.

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not enough room for fly gear

Heresy.

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For me anyways. I'm not good enough to be able to cast a fly far enough when fishing from land at that spot. But you should definitely investigate it when you're in the area next. It's usually the first place I try when I have the kayak out in Goodland. Just watch the oysters. Further out on the pilings where the oysters fade off is a pretty good place for small Jewfish and some good sized jacks, among other species.

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Another report from my old boss- caught a limit of slot reds at Goodwin island

Thank you!!!

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Found a good spot to rest on the beach between thunderstorms today lots of bluefish in the surf but with it so murky they wouldnt hit anything artificial or shiny. I was hitting them head on with the stingsilvers but nothing. Put on a glo triple rig and put gulp mullet on top hook then fishbites on bottom two and managed a bluefish and one spot before the storms rolled back in. Water was much cooler today with the rain but surf was back to choppy and mucky. Looks like tomorrow may be a was as well gonna have to limit my fishing trips to Eduardo's taco stand and some Thai moon where I'm guaranteed to catch some good eats.

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Today's super unofficial Mobjack report. Spoke with anglers at the fishing pier at Williams Wharf and one 18" trout was caught this morning, along with some super dinky white perch, sand perch, and even a tiny croaker, only the second I've heard of this year, all on bait and bottom rigs. Went to the Put In Creek launch and spoke with a couple of serious trouters as they tied down their boat. They'd caught a couple of dink trout, several dink stripers, and a few small bluefish. No decent trout, no reds. Whoopee.

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Lewisetta Marina reported Spanish mackerel at the mouth of the Potomac on Clark spoons yesterday.

I took my nephew back to this morning and between three of us. Tougher bite on the back of the front.

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Hmmmm. I'm supposed to head out there tomorrow

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Cobia are showing in full force on the Bay

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Yeah healthy grin sportfishing has caught close to 20 this week outside poquoson

Can't wait to go after them. I'll have my fly rod rigged up with a 30# leader with a huge gamechanger just in case :)

Ocean's East posted a stud landed from a yak.

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I haven't them to eat a fly that doesn't sink quickly. I know it can be done but man they love that jigging action. Biggest clouser you can tie is what I recommend and chuck and duck

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My trout neighbor reported mixed results from his friends trouting. A couple did well and a couple didn't, all were veteran trout guys, and were fishing the Mobjack area.

Edit: Sorry for the inaccuracy, but my neighbor's report was from the Piankatank. The guy who didn't catch a trout did catch a 25" striper, though.

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Fished the Mattaponi today. 60 plus vehicles in the two parking lots. Yikes. Had to deal with jetskis pulling tubes, though the ladies on the tubes were not hard to look at. Boats going past caused mud on the edges, making it hard to sight cast bowfin. We hooked four, all came unbuttoned. Lots of bald eagles. Great to be out on the water.

Also, broke my nine weight fly rod...

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Even though its June now- threw a tiny tiny EP minnow along the beach this morning. Picked up 2 snook around 18 inches a piece and a couple crevalles. Got some trash fish (little spiny mackerel and a couple ladyfish) too, but nobody claims those.

Saw another TON of big tarpon rolling off the sandbar, but I cant even reach those with my spinning gear, so wasn't even going to try the fly. But it's a good sign for the next time I take the yak out- if I actually get to before summer is over....

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All the fun fish are showing up in SC. Giant schools of big JC, seen a few monster Tarpon caught, still a few Cobia hanging around, Bonita are pushing in closer to shore, Spanish are in the creeks, Kings right outside of the jetty.

And my lean post is still in the shop getting upholstery done. :(

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I'm going to come down there as soon

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my back is in the shop, waiting for the wife to come home with a scrip.