The Hoos say funny things when guaranteed anonymity.
"I would love to see London turn things around but I just don't have any faith that it will happen," one frustrated booster said. "It's like someone said, 'I can't describe it, but I can tell you when I see it, and I see bad football.' There has been questionable decisions and too conservative play-calling."
"I've pretty much lost faith in this regime," the longtime fan said. "I don't know what it would take to turn it around. Maybe a big-time quarterback."
"I don't understand rewarding a coach for a good year with a bigger contract," one booster said. "Isn't that what he was hired to do, to meet those expectations?"
via: http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/uva-s---season-brings-mixed-feelings-a...
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We might need to have a Rally to Save Mike London
I'm in. We couldn't save Al, maybe we can do better by Mike.
Better idea: Push Lane Kiffin on em.
You are on to something here..play up that he took an SEC school to a bowl game...don't mention anything else
I like this idea! Let's make THIS happen!
VT would lose more 757 recruits than they do now. I would prefer a terrible coach who can't recruit. I wonder if Mike Groh is available?
Agree. No Kiffin in Hooville. He would stack the team with the greatest recruiting class ever, and win 4 games. But VT would be worse off for it.
I'm more of the thinking that the Kiffin brand has lost some star power since he practically crashed and burned at two schools and got chased out.
The only star power Kiffin has is his hot wife. Other than that, meh.....
I don't want Lame Kitten anywhere near the ACC. I wouldn't even want to inflict him on UVA. Maybe Miami...
Perhaps this could be a 501(c)/tax-free organization?
Anyone want to start up DontFireMikeLondon.com?
Desparate times, call for despartate measures.
The dearth they have had at QB has caused the vast majority of their issues. The QB's since Schaub:
Watford, Lambert, Rocco, Sims, Metheny, Lalich, Hagans, Sewell, Verica, (Vic Hall)
Rocco is by far the best QB of the bunch! Michael Rocco! Sewell, Verica, Hagans....these are all guys who started multiple games against VT!
Heh...Hagans...the WR coach now, because that's working out for him.
I love that my high school beat him in the state semi-finals in 1999, and then two years later, I got to see the Hokies beat him down in my first UVA/Tech game.
My favorite part is where they compare LOLUVA to Stanford, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Notre Dame. LOLUVA is not at that level academically IMO.
Or their football level, in everyone's opinion.
Guys...if UVA fires #HeadBallCop, it's obvious who will fall upwards to that coveted spot...
hahahaha these cavs on Hoo's Talking are calling our QB "Logan the Lynchburg Bigmouth" on the radio! They're also real sore at Shane Beamer.
That player who you say is a "Tight End, masquerading as a Quarterback," gentlemen, is only the latest Hokie QB to go undefeated against LOLUVa.
Hey UVA fans!
The slightest mention of Shane Beamer and they go bonkers. It's pretty funny.
We should start at campaign to get him hired as the UVA HC. Just for the grins watching the apoplexy.
#ShaneBeamerforUVAHC
What about Shane's feelings?! I wouldn't wish being the head coach at UVA on my worst enemies...
I won't tell him.
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I don't think that side note was necessary or appropriate.
Lol...seven people were very upset by this comment. Odd...
Is this a Chuck-E-Cheese? Are there CHILDREN present? Maybe there are but.......seriously man, this is a SPORTS blog. Sheesh. I feel like a 10 year old who just cursed in front of somebody's parent with that comment. Freakin buzzkill.
Yeah it's a sports blog, so why are you upset that I'm criticizing someone who wasn't talking sports, but instead just insulting someone they don't know?
TKP is better than that, I think.
Its just that....dude, who cares if the guy insulted someone affiliated with UVa? Calling his comment inappropriate? For god's sake. Did that really offend you? It just seems, weird for a place where I am assuming mostly grown men gather to discuss sports and you're out here handing down judgments about pretty vanilla commentary.
You're entitled to disagree, but the community is also entitled to self-regulate. Insulting remarks like that are borderline violations of the community guidelines. Such things have no merit and contribute nothing to the dialogue here. We criticize and critique, but immature name-calling is just pointless, and to some, yes, offensive.
I wasn't offended by his comments, but yes, I thought it was inappropriate, unnecessary, and added absolutely nothing to the discussion about sports.
If you have something to say related to Tech sports, or anything that this website has to offer or discuss, then great! If you don't, you can find some other place on the internet to spew that sort of junk.
I like to think TKP is an intellectual discussion place about sports, not just a place where you see that crap day in and day out.
Yeah, there's always Rivals if someone wants to make repeated uses of "UVGAY" and Club 216 etc. etc.
For the record.....UVA is gay - not like homosexual gay, but like my parents dressed me in plaid pants gay.
haha. true sir. true.
I laughed at this, but then looked down at the orange and maroon plaid VT pajama pants I was wearing...
I will never judge someone based on their choice of jammies. Especially if they're maroon and orange VT jammies.
I frequently make judgements about my wife by her choice of jammies.
The thing is, this site does have a set of community guidelines and they are easy to find and read. I'm all for making fun of uva, but when you call someone a feminine bitch, we all know what is implied, and that's where the line is crossed.
Ayyye dunno about that. I guess. When I read it I thought he was implying that the guy was a chump. I also didnt listen to the show so maybe he was....of the male persuasion.
At the end of the day, we're all same team. Just though there was a little too much preaching up in here.
Yes, in retrospect that is a better way to put it. Also, the comment was a quote from a dog show I just watched in which the commentator said "that is one feminine bitch" to describe one of the dogs, which I found hilarious.
Thanks for seeing the comment how it was meant.
@ Bruce: I agree! Also I love your pic. In that pic, I hope you were getting ready to catch a bitch fish, and when you reeled it in, I hope you smacked it around a bit. Then ate it. Yep ate some fish. Some bitch fish.
That was on SML a couple years back. I wasn't fishing but I did have a cocktail somewhere. (on the dock. I left my cocktail on the dock)
Using something to insult something else insults both of the somethings. When you insult someone by calling them a feminine bitch, you are belittling that person and femininity. I don't mind the first, but I do mind the second. We have sports fans on this blog who are women. What's worse is that when you said "Come on, this is a sports blog, we should be a little less sensitive than that" you did two things:
Again, I will point out that there are in fact women on this sports blog. You may not have called them out explicitly, but you called them out implicitly and told them to go. This is not okay. I've known some very passionate Hokies in my life, both male and female. In fact some of the better discussions I've had about the Hokies have been with my next door neighbors (one guy and on girl) and a girl that I went to highschool with. Those two girls probably have a higher working knowledge of this team than either me or my male next door neighbor. They know every single player by number (and I mean every single player, including the third string right tackle). They know what plays have been working for us and which ones haven't. They know which t-shirts they've been wearing when we win.
I don't want those two to feel like they can't be a part of this discussion. I would feel like I was missing out on some very knowledgeable, very interesting discussions of Virginia Tech football. I would much rather have them to talk about football with than someone who considers sexism to be "vanilla commentary."
The thing of it is as grown ass men (and women) we should be able to talk about these kinds of things better than a 12 year old on XBOX live.
That was what I was trying to say...I guess I just said it in a way that four people found to be unnecessary and inappropriate :)
I respectfully disagree with you here brother. You may interpret said comments anyway you choose and may not like them. But I know this individual is a BIG FAN of femininity. Yep, BIG FAN. And I would just like to say this:
Comedy and joking about our differences brings us together. Drawing dividing lines over what we can and cannot joke about does just that. It divides us. Most importantly, where does it stop? For instance, I saw a Sand Lot post with the kids on the ball field, you play like a girl. Should that be offensive? I say no. I say it is all in good fun. Some would say yes and continue down a path that completely cleanses us from any thought or speech that might be offensive. Hello thought police. Hello News Speak. Hello Big Brother. Political correctness does not free your mind. It shackles it. And I believe that is totally gay. Not homosexual gay, but we are not allowed to play dodgeball in school anymore gay.
Holy Sh1t, this is awesome. May many legs fall on this post in defiance of whiny, butt hurt, dodge ball cry-babies. Colin Cowherd for President! LOLUVA
I don't think the above quote is the humor I'd like to see. It's not humor based on "bringing us together." It seems like it was intended to put someone down. I would argue that most "joking about our differences" is intended to make a joke about how someone else is different at that person's expense. The person you are joking about may very well not think it's funny.
Is it too much to ask for to ask someone to consider how they may make the person they're joking about feel if they tell the joke? I don't think it is, nor do I think considering someone else's feelings counts as "Political correctness" or "thought police".
Another example - and one that drives me nuts. I notice this all the time- people joke about things being "gay" and then they say, "Oh, not the homosexual gay". As if by saying that, it makes it okay? Gay has two definitions: either homosexuality, or lighthearted and carefree. By making those jokes you are saying this: there is a version of the word gay that is a bad thing. Either you think being lighthearted and carefree is a bad thing, or you think being homosexual is a bad thing. By joking around with the word gay, despite your repeated protests that it's not referring to the "homosexual gay", you are insisting over and over that being homosexual is a bad thing, or you are convinced that being lighthearted and carefree is a bad thing.
If you truly mean what you say, deep down, that you aren't referring to homosexuality being a bad thing when you use gay as a derogatory term, then why are you using the term gay as derogatory at all? There's nothing derogatory about it.
Your words have meaning. Think about them, before you say them. There is quite simply zero cost to you removing certain terms from your vocabulary. I assure you, you can still voice your displeasure over something you dislike without using the term "gay", and you will do so more accurately, and without offending another person or putting them down. You may want to defend your freedom to say whatever you want, and that's fine, you have that right. But if you can say whatever you want, would it really hurt you to say something that has a little more concern and consideration for those who may not feel the same way as you?
Just something to consider.
Does anyone have a list of acceptable terms that can be used for derogatory means?
Also helpful would be a timeframe that those terms will be acceptable before they too, are deemed inappropriate.
My point simply was based on the two meanings of the word "gay", using the word in a derogatory sense means only one thing: you believe homosexuality is derogatory.
So I suggest if that's not what you intend then you find a different word. If that is what you intend, then by all means, you have been granted the freedom to say it.
Enough freaking opinions. He gets it guys.
I for one find using the words "dumb" or "stupid" when talking about something in a derogatory sense extremely offensive. It is clearly saying that people who are intellectually challenged or non-expert in a field of no fault of there own are vastly inferior, less than human, and are a terrible part of our society.
I'm not disagreeing with you...but you're going to have a tough time convincing some people with this particular argument when you use "there" instead of "their"
just sayin... I'm not trying to insult you, so here's a leg.
Mein Gott! I made a typo, it's not like you've never miss-typed those two words before or used "to" instead of "too".
i no what you mean
the meaning of words is:
your definition of "gay" does not take either of those things into account. here is another definition of gay when used in the pejorative context:
maybe some people just aren't open-minded enough to appreciate alternate viewpoints ... such as the fact that the usage of the word gay has evolved over time. And don't even get me started on what has happened to the term for a small bundle of sticks!
Sigh... people still want to argue this? Look, yes I agree with you that the word gay has definitely developed into a disparaging form. That was my whole point- was that it's used as an insult.
What you seem to be neglecting is that the word has also in conjunction with developing a pejorative context been developed to describe a certain lifestyle - and is most certainly used as an insult towards that lifestyle.
The simple fact of the matter is, if less people used that term as an insult, the happier everyone would be. It doesn't hurt you to stop, but it may hurt someone to use it. So why use it? Simply because you want to prove that you can say whatever you feel like?
argue? I simply finding it interesting that you have put a neat little box around a word. If you use this word, it can only mean two things. very interesting, very narrow view.
No, this is how my world works: if you can say something that may hurt a group of people, or you could not, why would you choose to say it unless you intended to hurt them.
Simply saying that you didn't intend to upset someone so they shouldn't be upset is what strikes me as closed-minded and a narrow view. That's selfish, and only caring about how you feel, rather than how your words and actions affect others.
It'd be a lot easier to accept certain words about certain groups as beyond the pale, if only those certain groups didn't use those same certain words in a derogatory manner so very often themselves.
I find the incoherent hypocrisy of it all very gay.
Like I've said all along, you are free to think and say what you want.
Me? I'd say something along the lines of "I find the incoherent hypocrisy of it all very frustrating."
Because I know some people who would be offended by it, and I'd rather not contribute to the culture of "gay" being seen as a derogatory term.
So how a listener or interprets a word defines the offense, rather than how the speaker intends it? That's a life on eggshells, my friend.
Which goes back to my earlier gaily made request of a list of words that are acceptable for use, and also, the expiration date on the usability of those words before they too are unconscionably offensive to some party that is determined to be offended.
See, you can continue to try to keep up with the ever-evolving game of Calvinball that victim groups have devised, or you can live your life free and enjoy a little risque humor here and there.
Now, the wife is insisting I come help her bake cookies. And I wish that was a euphemism.
Fair enough, and I respect your choice. It is yours to make, and yours alone. I simply don't feel the need to use certain words- that's all.
I don't agree with you per se, however you mentioned calvinball so here is your leg.
So disapproving of the use of the word "gay" as a general insult is not okay? I've eliminated that from my list of insults because I think it's wrong that people use it as a generic insult. It implies that there is something inherently not-good about it. Imagine if people used an ethnicity that way. It would not be okay. Even if you just meant it as a "generic insult." This shouldn't either, and feeling that way does not make someone closed minded.
As a heterosexual man, I find the use of the phrases "straight arrow" and "straitlaced" offensive. Even if someone chooses to live by "rigidly proper or conventional standards" or be "excessively strict in their manners, morals, or opinion," it doesn't make it ok to use my sexual orientation to label them.
[/Sarcastica] (and probably some light trolling as well)
Can we end this stupid shit already? Look, I am gay, but I'm not offended by anything an anonymous internet tough guy says. However, with 2000+ members or whatever it is now, I suspect I'm probably not the only gay person on here, and others may be offended. Hell, there is probably a gay player or two on the team. They read this site too, how do you think it makes them feel to have their own fans talking that way?
So rather than take the chance of offending your fellow Hokies, just don't use certain words. IT'S NOT HARD TO DO. We don't need to analyze the evolution of language, just don't say shit that could be offensive. Anybody is welcome to continue this conversation on twitter, but a perfectly good thread making fun of UVA has been ruined on here.
Definitely a derailed thread. I've had to scroll up twice to remember what we were originally talking about. By the way UVA is terrible and Mike London needs a Flava Flave clock. Maybe that'll bring us back home.
Come one woman, come all, I say. You'd hear equal or worse at any football game, at nearly any tailgate, but if you can't handle that, then find somewhere else to get your diehard football news fix, apparently.
If you want to be super-literal, PC and dry about every possible offensive thing on here, then go right ahead. I'll be here, not as a sexist, not as an anti-feminist, not as a 12 year old or any of the dumb crap you tried to throw on me.
I'm here as a fan with reasonable expectations of the types of commentary you'll see from the very diverse group of passionate men and women that fly the VT flag. And if you don't want to talk sports with me, its too late. You already did.
I remember the schoolyard saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."
I'm NOT attempting to defend any use of derogatory terminology, but PC stuff really gets on my nerves. When did the nation of free speech turn into the nation of "don't say that it hurts my feelings"? Words only have power if the person hearing them gives them power. If you let what others say affect you, then you'll never be the best you that you can be. I learned that lesson a long time ago when I was constantly bullied. I decided I had two choices: I could take those words to heart and let them eat at me for the rest of my life (of course you think that as a kid), or I could shrug those attempts to rile me off and realize that they were just words and I was better than that.
Granted, we don't want the forums to be filled with hateful words, but it amuses me how words once "okay" to say become "not okay" to say because someone starts thinking of it as not okay.
Your absolutely right... Evolution of language is ridiculous... IF WE USED A WORD IN THE PAST, WE SHOULD USE IT NOW...The D*** pc POLICE are taking away our rights
And with regards to your bullying, I applaud your decision to realize other people's words shouldn't affect you that much. But wouldn't you have been happier if the bully had stopped?
See, the thing is, the bullying DID eventually stop. My not caring about what they said meant they couldn't get their rocks off picking on me anymore, so they stopped. Maybe they went to someone else who wasn't able to realize what I did, which is a shame, but it's like trolling...if no one feeds the bully, the bully starves...I stopped feeding it.
Is it just me or has this particular section of thread gotten way OT.
About once a week around here someone posts a joke that another poster finds distasteful. They then proceed to downvote and call it out and then we get a thread that people just argue what's proper conduct for 100 posts. It also seems the magnitude of how offensive the joke was is inversely proportional to the amount of comments that branch off of it.
UVA Boosters: "We are not happy! We see bad football!"
UVA Fans: "We are not happy! VT has a decade of dominance! We see bad football!"
Blanding, Brown, and every other 2014 UVA recruit: "We are overjoyed! You ARE keeping London, right?"
Their recruiting, outside of Blanding and Brown, really sucks. That will hurt them bigtime in the long run.
I must admit to having mixed feelings about Coach Mike London as well.
On the one hand, he is a terrible game-day coach with the clock-management skills of an epileptic timekeeper for roller-dirby on "DISCO!" night.
On the other, (shocker alert), he used to be a cop. One less cop = more doughnuts for me.
And everyone knows, one cannot make doughnut pie without doughnuts.
What kind of skirt were you wearing when you made that lovely pie? Oh, and if your a guy my appolgies I bake pies too!
For the last time: IT'S. A. KILT.
I found it on the internet. I'm going to do my level best to get the wife to make it. For some reason she doesn't like it when I threaten to bake.
UVA brings out the "BOO" in booster
Looked like there was too much testosterone up there so I thought I would add something fun to it.
Enjoy,
JcTaughtMe
I'll second that with a some Anastasia Ashley warm up
I need to go to [Summer] Olympics one of these days.
Can they ever be happy though? Theyre uva fans: theyre always unhappy
Yes they can. When the new Vineyard Vines Spring collection is released.
Actually, the Chatteau Morissette Winery is just past Floyd, maybe an hour away from Blacksburg... And that is a FUN place to do a tasting! I highly recommend it! :)
Took my mom for a tasting there for her birthday one year. They are very generous with
their tastings. Beautiful place. My fav will always be Sweet Mountain Laurel. Heard they have a
cherry wine now. But haven't seen it in stores yet.