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Schools will drop a player the minute it no longer serves them. Weather it's due to injury, coaching change, performance, or personality.
The schools have zero loyalty to players. Why should players have loyalty to a school?
They aren't getting all the profits, they are getting half of the revenue generated just like they do in the pros.
Capitalism is not when you collude to restrict what workers can earn. The fact that players are being paid millions of dollars is proof that they have value โ why do lacrosse and field hockey players not get paid?
I really really suck at this. I mean really. Yet somehow I'm only 8 points out of the lead?
Yeah I agree here. And to top it all off with, some of these guys want to voluntarily opt out the rest of the season to preserve a redshirt and transfer, AND still get paid the rest of their NIL deal too? Can't have your cake and eat it too. If I'm an independent contractor and I quit a job for my client a quarter of the way in it, they are not obligated to pay me the remainder of my contract beyond my partial performance. No clue how these NIL deals are structured or if there are guarantees to keep this compliant with the "no pay for play" component, which is a farce really. Just think the whole structure is really stupid.
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I know. Only way he gets the interview is by getting to the championship game.
This weekend their were two ACC matchups with teams with suspect defenses. Virginia won their game, and we found a defense on the drive there.
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Beg to differ. The schools are absolutely looking out for them. Like someone previously mentioned, free education, use of facilities, trainers, coaches, doctors and countless other resources in order to be the best student-athlete they can be, with the goal of playing on Sundays.
Again, I'm just having a hard time understanding how these guys are coming up on the short end in this situation.
A lot to unpack here...
Look, I'm not going to make a 'value' argument - your value is whatever someone is willing to pay you. If Tennessee will pay you $1m and VT will pay you $500k, it doesn't matter how much 'revenue' or 'value' you're theoretically responsible for generating: your value is $1m and you should go get that (if you want).
In the same vein - the university doesn't have to pay an athlete if they are asking too much. The Tennessee/Nico situation worked out perfectly.
My final thought here: Each of these individuals has to look out for their own interests because no one else is. There is no bargaining agreement, union, or even labor law to protect them. It's up to them to vet agents, lawyers, runners, etc. Contrast that against the university: Not only does each University have an entire infrastructure supporting them; they have banded together - again: in a way that US law says illegal - with the (historical) goal of limiting the options available to athletes.
I just can't fault these guys for looking out for their personal and financial interests when literally no other organization is there to help them.
I will never say that these guys are 'entitled' or 'deserving' of more money purely due to their athlete status or their skill. But as Americans, they have the right to pursue any options that are available to them under the laws of our country. In the majority of instances that I've seen, I don't think many of these guys are intentionally trying to hurt a university; rather (IMO) they're just looking out for themselves (because no one else is).
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9 months 3 weeks
# | Bitter: Sr DL James Djonkam and FR DL Keyshawn Burgos are no longer with the football team The DL played pretty well last night
Not trying to rain on any parades, however I personally need to see more than a victory (albeit a nice win which I enjoyed and appreciate) over NC State which has an absolutely horrid defense.
I also know Montgomery was and will be short handed the rest of the way out so any additional wins will be significant. That being said, we cannot follow up the good PR we are enjoying with the news of the upgraded funding commitment by then handing the reigns over to Montgomery.
especially when 4 different guys playing 4 different balls will all hit the same iron on a par 3. you adjust to the temp; you adjust to the wind; you adjust to the altitude; you adjust to the speed of the green; hell, take a couple of hours and adjust to the ball.
Agree 100%, although if he beats a team akin to 2007 Oklahoma with THIS roster, we would have to give him strong consideration. Who knows what he could be capable of if he gets to pick his staff and his players.
I agree it's overblown but not entirely negligible at their skill level. Also Lowry and Rory played in fourballs (better ball) so they each played their own balls. Rory was with Fleetwood for Foursomes (alt shot) which is where the ball excuse comes into play
And we are seeing that the players weren't getting markey value and the system is correcting itself.
yeah coaching games is only a part of the job. Let's do our due diligence and not have a bill Stewart situation here.
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Yes. Basically he'd have to win out and I'm not even sure I'd take him then. Just feels like a settling, good-with-the-status-quo, Old VT kind of move.
That said, it is funny that it took Monty 1 game to do what Pry couldn't in 4 years.
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Again, the Schools provide the means for these players to have any chance at being Professional Football players. They do it at significant cost to the University and without any requirements for future repayment.
The next Football player to make it to the NFL by filming himself in his backyard Uncle Rico style will be the first one.
There is huge potential economic value to what the schools provide beyond that opportunity at a Free Education that we have clearly now tossed to the side again and again.
Would it be fair for schools to say...if you sign an NIL contract with us, then you owe us 10% of any future revenue made playing football??
My point isn't (and has never been) that players don't deserve any compensation. But they want to continue to operate is this economic fantasy world where they get paid but have zero accountability or restriction in how they are compensated. No one in America functions like that.
You say they don't have anyone looking out for them---I say they have the wrong people looking out for them---Darren Heitner, John Ruiz, and fly-by-night NIL Agents are who they've chosen. They certainly could Organize, but as ltrepeter correctly pointed out above, its not the schools that don't want to have employees, its the athletes that don't want to have any regulation on how they come and go. They'd rather have guys like this paying them:
https://frontofficesports.com/miami-nil-king-john-ruiz-lifewallet/
It is not a sustainable system, that may be the one thing we agree upon. It will collapse and IMO it will end poorly for the players. There are few if any schools that truly have profits to continue to fund the current status quo and the public at-large is fed up with NIL. That will only continue to erode as more and more assholes like Heitner get involved and more players like Pavia are filing increasingly ridiculous lawsuits to extend eligibility into their late 20's.
A good rule in life: if the epicenter of any system originates in Dade County, FL....you should not walk, but fucking sprint away.