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"Team looks much better" and
"If they can manage to get a touchdown" made me lol
Next day thoughts:
- we're better than in years past. We had two new coordinators and 30+ transfers. Years past we would have been down 0-17 before getting a first down and showing any signs of life.
- We couldn't take advantage of their mistakes. After first series, D settled in and was making plays. Could have easily been up 1-2 scores in 1H if we sustain drives and keep momentum.
- D played strong. Can't tell you how many times I saw DTs and LBs just flat out push guys back. Ferg is paying off.
- D scheme is much better. We made some mistakes. But you could certainly see the gameplan.
- O has the potential to be "improved". Talent isn't as good but scheme and cohesiveness seem better.
- stop running up the middle. OL doesn't execute it well. Especially slow developing and with the smallest back. Attacking the edges and PO plays worked much better.
- Drones is improving. Had much better touch. Threw catchable balls. Those highlight plays were because he had some touch on the ball. Think Monty is designing a good system around his strengths. Need to let him run more early. He always plays better after issuing a few hits (he doesn't like to slide). Take some pressure off him being too perfect on throws.
- WRs drops crushed Drones confidence. Throw lasers and low balls are when you forcing to be perfect. Esp noted at end of the game...you could see him lunge forward too much or throw off his back foot.
- ST can be a weapon. Think we were afraid of making stupid mistakes and playing "not to lose". Once the other pieces (O and D) gel a little better they'll take chances with ST personnel and scheme.
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Going back Pre-Game "Bare Minimum" thread--I think what I really wanted to see was "not the same." Essentially, all the things that have plagued the Pry era so far--improved or gone.
And despite sorta kinda hanging in there, I still saw far too much of the same. Poor clock management, mistakes leading to points for the other team, weak play from the back 7 on D, and Offensive miscues that killed drives.
The DL was a solid bright spot and the OL looked at least passable (although we'll see what French thought). But the passing game was an entire mess-Drones is consistently off-target and when he is, we can't catch. And the LB are just never making plays.
And there's a reason that you lose close games...when you can't get lined up for a Punt correctly in a 2 point game, you are a poorly coached team. That sequence was quintessential Pry Football.
Honestly, I came out of this game thinking we physically have a better chance to beat Vandy than I thought but I am simultaneously sure that we will find a way to lose....
Slept on it.
If this team isn't 3-1 after the preseason games (/s) are done. It's going to be a long season and Pry is toast.
To me it felt like the offense wasn't ready, lot of trying to get plays communicated to everyone. OL looks better than last year, WRs need to spend some time on the JUGS machine but we have some that can make plays it seems. RB may take a couple games to flush out. Overall seems like a Blacksburg offense.
Defense seems to be a lot better with adjustments. DL looks scary. I feel like we played soft on WR a lot, plenty of green grass around catches. Other than the opening drive from SC, they came to play.
Love is the most consistent player on the team and has a fucking cannon for a leg. ST seems to be the most unimproved part of the team other than Pry's clock management.
After sleeping on it, I think it's going to be more of the same this year but the defense may win us a game or two. Glad we didn't look like we didn't belong on the field yesterday but at the same time we lost ourselves a winnable game. Pry needs to hire some clock manager for gamedays.
There are not 4 teams better than USC on our schedule. Miami and FSU, that's it
What is there to teach, stiff-arming and swatting people's arms away? Core strength? Come on. That's not teachable, that's instinctual/a matter of hard work. Get low, wrap him up, leverage his ass to the ground. If you can't, get strong enough to or move over for someone who is. Strength also =/= athleticism
First game I'd watched live in ages.
Now that I've had some time to process....it felt like a loss as soon as that opening drive happened. Even when it was 7-5 and 10-8 it never really felt like we were in it. Taking the lead and scoring a touchdown were tasks that felt equally insurmountable.
On the bright side that was some of the stoutest DL play I've seen in a long time. They had a relatively hard time running the ball, we got some good hits in on Sellers (too bad the ball didn't bounce our way on that one strip sack) and the safety was awesome.
Unfortunately, everyone else on defense looked...rough. Still can't stop that damn Rutgers tight end play. LBs and safeties were ass, Reddish in particular had a terrible game at least to my eye test. Corners I thought were pretty okay? I was not sober and not fully paying attention for every single play so film review may refute some or all of this.
And the offense...I'm about to do what I used to hate Fuente for doing and blame some players here. True, some of those ineffectual inside runs looked like they were straight out of Stiney's playbook. And I hated the decision to throw deep on 3rd and 1 early on, even though it worked.
But everything else on that side of the ball came down to a failure to execute. Plays were there to be made, there were some particularly inspired play designs and we had people open all game long. Guys just weren't making those plays. Hawkins ran hard all game, but he missed a block on that one play in the second quarter that should've been a horsecollar foul on USCe. Forget about the bad no-call, he makes that block, it's a first down if not a TD. That one series in maybe the early 4th before the game got out of hand where Drones threw 3 catchable balls in a row and all 3 were dropped. The wide open outlet pass on 3rd down that was dropped, I think that happened sometime in the second half too. All the great sideline almost-catches. And then there's Drones himself, who is still the wildly inconsistent passer we've come to know and tolerate. Overthrowing. Throwing behind the receiver. Leading the receiver too much. The INTs were all squarely on him. The only good thing I can say about Drones' passing yesterday is at least he didn't throw any hospital balls. Is he really the best we've got? Really??
All in all, I feel like Montgomery and Siefkes had pretty okay first games. We might win more than 4. But we could easily still only win 4. Or less. Really, really would've liked to have this one. And that PRTD was just a horrible twist of the knife, our special teams have been anything but for years now. Just another edition of the same movie we've all seen way, way too many times before. Go Hokies I guess
the fundamentals of wrapping up the guy and getting him to the ground can be taught in practice.
You think wrapping up and tackling someone who is stronger, faster, and heavier is purely coachable technique?
Is that Individual not also taught how to break said tackles?
Morning after thoughts:
Team looks much better than last year even in the loss.
- Recovering after getting slapped in the mouth on the first drive is huge.
- The defense feels much more like a VT defense than whatever we've had the past few years.
- we had a run game at times
- catch the freaking ball
I feel like if the offense can ever manage to get a touchdown, we'll be in a pretty good place going forward.
I would agree with that.
I said it last season and I'm saying it again, if "Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda" was the game of football VT would have a number of natty's by now. We are duty bound as CFB representatives of WaCaSa.
To an earlier point, our troubles have had one thing in common, amongst others (don't get me wrong, I know there are others), and that's not having a true QB1 since Tyrod. Couple this with WaCaSa, and we would be a 9+ win season team and ACCCG contender.
Outside of landing a QB1, there has to be a time when VT can get out of their own way to a larger degree than what we have seen season on end.
special teams touchdown
Eh, we've had kicks returned against us before. I'm annoyed at the kick coverage, but it wasnt like they blocked a kick for a TD or something.
Lots of empty seats throughout the stadium. Capacity is ~75k, and only 55k tix sold (per a mid game announcement).
But we saw way more Gamecocks in the tailgating lots, on the way into the stadium, in the stadium, etc. we estimated it was 60/40 cocks.
With you on catches, but hard disagree on tackling. Athleticism helps you reach the ballcarrier quicker. But the fundamentals of wrapping up the guy and getting him to the ground can be taught in practice. How many athletic defenders get where they need to be and either whiff with an arm tackle or try to make a SportsCenter Top 10 style hit and miss, flailing horribly? SO many of them, and it's been that way for years now across the sport.
You can be less talented and still be good at tackling.
Bingo. Not scoring a TD hurts. Offense stalled inside the 30. Gotta fix. Especially after the last Pry-sser where he said that 2min drill and red zone were points of emphasis lol
But goddammit did it make me irrationally angry that we gave up a special teams touchdown
That, combined with frank wearing SC gear...
VT feels like one of the players from Space Jam who got their powers stolen by the MonStars. And SC was one of them.
I just want a quarterback, ANY quarterback, who throws a catchable ball. I don't give a shit if he can scramble or anything like that, just be able to hit an open guy.
I feel like this is the opposite of what we said when Grant Wells was our qb and drones was on the bench ๐ญ
We need QB development. We can't have QBs (or any player really) who's in the program for >2 years without showing any demonstrable improvement.
Are missed tackles being out talented? On several plays out guys had their arms around the ball carrier and still missed it.
Yes? This is exactly what it looks like when a 2-star tries to wrap up a 4-star. They get there, and the more athletic player wins.
Another one I saw was receivers dropping the ball when it was right in their hands. To me that's not talent, it's guys being soft. Not rising to the moment, not making plays.
I mean, I think that's talent adjacent as well. Yes, it's a confidence/mental issue first, but more talent players have had more successful reps throughout their career and have more confidence as a result. Yes, this is somewhat coachable, but I think that's a big of an over simplification.
Either way it's a problem, and most teams don't have that issue
I think most 6-6 teams have these issues. 9-3 teams? Much less so.
After watching the Dline I think we have more of a chance than I did 24 hours ago. The teams than gave Vandy fits last year just used their lines to shut down anything up the middle.
Texas lost. USCjr won, can you name 15 teams better than them based off this weeks games?
And Texas is ranked #1. Did Texas look like the best team in the country Saturday? I thought they looked more like us.

Didn't include this in my write up but yes. Still far too much of the same old Pry from years past. In a year when he's fighting for his job that isn't going to cut it. Also thought pass pro was awful but not sure how much of that was on the OL and how much was simply good calls by their DC