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The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now.
All these folks saying it's too late. What should Whit do, just give up and NOT push the BOV? At least he's doing something now.
Hey now.....you know that's not what I meant.....
Shane probably would have been disappointed it he HADN'T gotten one.
Because his last name is Beamer.
"Shame Cock Beamer", just throwing out ideas.
While being in the SEC would be nice, I'm wondering why we aren't consistently doing that in the ACC.
Oilmen only want one thing and it's this, gushing.
This probably isn't the first time the BOV is hearing about this topic but it is the first public discussion of it. A lot of BOV business gets done behind closed doors - not in an illegal sense at all, but the structure and content of a BOV meeting is highly choreographed. The outcomes are usually known. An administrator once told me "the open meeting is theater, everything has already been discussed." Again, not making any accusation of illegal dealings, but with the vast amount of information at each meeting (briefing materials are routinely over 1000 pages, this meeting is "short" at just over 800), everyone should realize that a lot of the job is done ahead of time. Pretty much all of it is subject to FOIA, but the legal counsel and folks who work to support the board are top notch at doing stuff by the book exactly.
I would not go so far as to say he's turned on by the Hallmark Channel.
Right now I am just hoping my investment accounts stay level with this market.
Bowen wasn't the o line coach, so can't totally blame him for Tuten not getting to show his actual potential. Passing scheme definitely fucked Lane.
If Lane gets some run in the slot in DC, he's gonna be a menace in that offense.
Agree with the folks saying it's too little, too late.
One of y'all get lucky on the stock market and throw some of that stupid T Boone Pickens money at the VTAD
I have this feeling that Tuten and Lane are going to make us wish Tyler Bowen was gone sooner.
Even better for some reason when I type "Tuten" the apple automatic "fix" is TUTEN! Like I have to scream his name at all times.
Philosophers only want one thing and it's discussing.
Shane watches the Hallmark channel alone every night with a quilt, a quart of ice cream, and a box of tissues.
Woman: 'Men only want one thing and its disgusting!'
Man: 'Then wash it!'
We don't need a discussion, we need a decision.
Every year they delay a decision we fall multiple years behind in catching up
No, I don't think that not cutting some old trees down means we aren't serious about being a top 25 football team.
But I do know that when Ryan Day, James Franklin, Nick Saban, Dabo, Marcus Freeman, Mike Norvell, Harbaugh, Brian Kelly, etc say 'jump' the university says 'how high?'
The fight that our generational coach had with our administration is emblematic of the difference between how our admin prioritizes football and how the administrators at other schools view football.
As did I. Very nice guy. I once spent an afternoon with him in his dads caddy driving around throwing snowballs at UPS trucks. It was fun.
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# | Whit Babcock presentation on future of VT athletics to BOV Well Liberty could be preseason Top 25 in those years the way they are throwing cash at their program. They already have more votes than we do this year
VT is a public institution - I'm sure there have been some finance committee-level discussions with board members or 1-on-1s with administration. But unless they're violating sunshine laws and all conspiring behind closed doors about this for a while now, this is the first big substantive presentation to the board. And this will just open the door for more discussion and meetings before they make any big decisions as a body.
Conferences are not public institutions - they are private non-profits typically which are not subject to FOIA and similar public meeting and communications laws like state entities. So I think this is the first big opening salvo to the board as a collective. Again, I'm sure small group or one-on-one discussions have occurred. But this is going to be a lengthy official process that I think is just getting started publicly with the board as a whole.
Come on, not cutting some old trees down means we aren't serious about being a top 25 football team???
You're better than that. And that's a crazy conclusion right there.
Reminds me of a quote I just heard today for the first time: "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
the general tone of the presentation to the BOV is that more exposure is a good thing and makes up and then some from the expense of giving the AD more money. That sentiment is as true today as it was five or ten years ago.
I don't think it's so much that 'more exposure is good' - I think it's saying there is now a direct link between exposure and AD funding.
So if we are making that argument to get the BOV to buy in and fund the AD for success, then why wasn't this pitch made before now? Sorry, it still just smacks of being totally late and reactive to the whole dynamic of college football, which is typical VT
I'm guessing that - and Guitarman can correct me - when things are brought before the BOV, they are not things being discussed for the first time. Kinda like when a conference votes to add a member, the members have already been whipped, and the result is a foregone conclusion. Now maybe this decision isn't a foregone conclusion. Maybe this is part of an effort to change VA law (which guitarman discusses in the thread).
I'll level with you - IF this is completely late and reactive, then I completely agree with you. But I can't imagine these people - Sands, Whit, and the BoV (which has multiple members who own/run NRV businesses) - are deferential to the cultural and economic impact of VT football. They would have to be absolute buffoons, and I don't believe that VT (as a university) would be as successful as it is if this is the case.
