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It's easy to compare impact players actually landing on campus. Are they or not? And late FU and Pry thus far, they are not. We can make every excuse in the book, but until we land a few 4 stars that actually contribute both have underperformed in recruiting- NIL or Not.
"Pry has elevated the floor of our recruiting classes noticeably"- eh, maybe. sure we may have less late offers and 2 stars, but it has not moved the needle nor resulted in more wins. I was expecting top 25 classes, top 3rd in the ACC which is not some miracle or pipe dream. We should be able to recruit at or higher than louisville, pitt, nc state. Not too much to ask. Pry is nowhere near that, less 2 stars or not.
I think that if Pry would have been hired at the time of Fu we would not have been in the mess that we are now. He would have kept the relationships in state and expanded from there. Not saying that he would have had us playing for NC but we would be on much more solid ground than we are now.
Good point. That brings up another key part that I didn't mention, which is the recruiting environment in the NIL world has changed the game, making it more difficult to compare recruiting prowess one to one with pre-NIL times.
Pry is a relationship recruiter in a time of mercenaries.
He is better than Fuente. He had a couple decent classes early, but most of those 4* guys were busts/poor evals. Pry has elevated the floor of our recruiting classes noticeably.
Pry took over a program that had their first losing season in my lifetime and was trending heavily downward, Fu took over a team full of NFL players that still had some lingering prestige on the trail.
Honestly thought Pry would be a much better recruiter than Fu, but he's not
I just don't understand why he was allowed to be the umpire behind the plate. I thought it's been in the rule book since 1994 to keep Angels in the outfield.
We are currently sitting at 16th place in the ACC on 247 - 7 recruits all three stars... meanwhile you have clemson, fsu, miami all with >10 four stars and everyone except for NC state, Wake, VT, and UVA with at least 1 four star.
Let's hope the momentum continues.
Lots of work to do still, but June has been good for VT recruiting momentum, particularly for the lines of scrimmage. A big grab on Cleveland as well. If we land Gaston and Wilder, this will be one of our best OL classes in a long time.
Also living in NJ, and 15 min. from Rutgers, I was at that game. 10/9/99. We had 50 yard line seats for 10 or 15 bucks apiece. There were more Hokies fans by a mile there than Rutgers fans. First play of the game after getting the kickoff I notice Vick changes the play at the line of scrimmage when he notices Andre Davis 1 on 1 on the side closest to us, and signals something to Andre. I said to the wife 'Watch this - it going for a TD right here'. Davis runs a go route and Vick hits him in stride fr a 75 yard TD.
Rutgers actually tied the score at 14 early in the first, but Tech ran off 5 Unanswered TD in the second quarter and led 49-14 at the half. Final was 58-14.
Finally trying to do some fishing this year. Down in the outer banks and my motorguide trolling motor remote is fried again. I'm on the second remote in 3 years. Anyone know of a place down here that would have one in stock?
Some player will sue to be the 106th... and win
I believe the rule is you can have 105 bodies, scholarship or otherwise.
Sorry- not unlimited, just 105 can be on scholly now. Very strict
Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end...
Living in NJ, I listened to one game on the Rutgers' radio station. One of the lines from the Rutgers announcer was something like 'Michael Vick had a pretty good season in the first half.' May not have the quote exactly right, but you get the point. Was the year we went to the championship game and Vick was something like 9 for 10 with 200-something yards + multiple touchdowns + whatever his rushing yards were. And, if I recall correctly, the 1 incomplete was a dropped ball by the receiver.
I'm old enough to remember when we could beat Rutgers in football.
And it wasn't even close.
You literally hate everything so hard that you've got the opposite of the facts there lmao
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We did. I'm old enough to remember when we could beat Rutgers in football.
DL is not hard to scout and identify, it is hard to recruit and retain in the portal era. OL is absolutely not as easy as put all the money into 5 star OL and reap the rewards.
Im a little buzzed after a shitty day today and still have to get up a 5 am tomorrow, but for some strange reason, I've decided you really should do an AMA. Don't have the slightest idea why. Night folks.
I'd buy a few you if you plan on keeping the trolling motor longer since the motorguide brand is transitioning to lowerance.