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These are all ancient history, too.

We've had one (1) ten-win season in the last 13 years

Those facts don't resonate as well anymore

it was a different era.

yes, exactly all of these points are why I'm furious that FUCKING MIAMI, a team that hasn't done anything in OVER 20 YEARS - AND ALSO HASN'T DONE ANYTHING AS AN ACC MEMBER is regarded as a top brand in the ACC??!?!?!?!?!!!

Like, you're not wrong. VT has been down lately. But if you're looking at brands in the ACC that way and you say that VT doesn't deserve to be considered one of the top brands in the league by that logic then Miami abso-fucking-lutely should be left off that list as well. My whole point is that Miami doesn't deserve to be there any more than VT does. If you don't think VT deserves to be there with FSU and Clemson, fine, I won't argue with that. But if you're going to turn around and say that VT doesn't deserve to be there for the reasons listed but then say Miami does deserve to be there because of titles they won, in a different league, in a different era, then fuck right off.

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These are all facts.

These are all ancient history, too. We've had one (1) ten-win season in the last 13 years, and have been pretty mediocre recently. Those facts don't resonate as well anymore. If we get back to winning ways, sure, we can tie those times into current times and leverage off that, but until we start winning again, it was a different era.

All it does is underline just how much Whit Babcock has been a complete and utter failure of an Athletic Director at VT. When he was hired we were an ACC cash cow, printing them money through high leverage and high profile games, getting us invited as at large to the BCS bowls, getting invited to major showcase events, and even holding our own in sports other than football.

Now? We are an afterthought, at best with an entire athletic department that is at best mediocre in all major broadcast sports. In any other school, he is fired in the last 24 months, but here he has a rope that seemingly has no end as long as the right boosters gets their asses kissed.

if there was any question (and there really shouldn't have been) this just confirms that the ACC has zero regard or respect for VT. Yes, VT is down at the moment but it is absolutely one of the best brands in the ACC, without a doubt. Miami has done basically nothing in the last 21 years in the conference. VT has 4 ACC championship victories. VT helped ESPN make Thursday night football and ESPN gameday a thing. VT has the best entrance in college football and Lane Stadium is a bucket-list item for any serious college football fan regardless of which team they support. These are all facts. Miami hasn't won a meaningful game the entire time they have been in the ACC. If the ACC tries to claim the dinosaur titles that Miami had that is straight up stollen valor as those titles came when the Canes were in the Big East, not the ACC. It's absolute horseshit that the ACC doesn't recognize VT as being one of the top brands in the league. I'll concede FSU and Clemson since they have actually won titles as ACC members. But fucking Miami?!?! Give me a break.

Again, why would you have any flight path for the helicopters that came within miles of the landing path for any active runway at a major commercial airport? Why introduce elements that increase the odds of a collision like that?

Just plain stupid levels of 'well, we've always done it this way so why change'. Never should have allowed those helicopters to come anywhere close to those corridors.

Miami has won 5 national championships. In the last 50 years, only Alabama has won more national titles (7) than Miami's 5. The only other team with 4 is USC. Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Florida, FSU, Georgia, Clemson and LSU have won 3 championships each in the last 50 years.

Miami is very much a traditional power.

LOL- only if ND wants to. The ACC doesn't dictate terms to ND.

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traditional football powers of the ACC

So Miami is in this category with zero ACC championships and only one title game appearance?

EDIT: Meanwhile little ole VT has 3 title game wins - 4 overall championships if you count 2004 when there wasn't a championship game.

This is just straight up marketing and more excuses for them re-run the "Catholics vs Convicts" 30 for 30.

EDIT2: For clarity.

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I saw on the news last night (or maybe this morning) that the helo was under 200 feet earlier in its track, but was closer to 300-350 feet nearer the point of impact. I have zero idea where they got the flight information, but they said the same thing you did about elevation limits in that corridor.