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Here's my take for everyone hating on Bowen and saying he can't call a game. He's down his two best Oline (edit: I hate the autocorrect from OLine to "online") men to the portal on an already weak line. Their defense was being so aggressive on blitzes they were called offsides a number of times, but seemed content to let that go because they were pretty good at timing their rushing to be right at the snap, giving almost zero time for plays to develop, making run plays really hard.
And for passing plays, the refs deciding not to call pass interference - wtf is that? Their corners seemed to know just how much they could push or do whatever to prevent a reception (without looking for the ball). I can't count how many times I saw a fair amount of contact by their corners before the ball reached the receiver.
So, between a hyper aggressive defensive rush that got to our line and past it probably faster than any other team I remember seeing and the corners being able to commit PI, not sure exactly how you game plan for that, even if you have a month. I mean, I guess you could have tried to have our DLine try the aggressive blitzing, but if they hadn't worked on the timing, they'd probably be bad at it. Also, I think our two best pass rushers weren't participating, so that probably didn't help the O get ready any better.
Edit to add: But really, not calling PI? That seems like it gives a team with a strong D line an extra unfair advantage because you usually deal with aggressive rushing by passing it over them. And I saw a couple plays where that's what it looked like Bowen tried, one was a reception near the ground where our receiver was able to get a hard pass, the other, was a crossing route that the corner pushed our receiver in the back before the ball got to him.
We didn't have a 3rd Qtr defensive collapse last night. The young guys didn't look lost the whole game to me. We for sure need help on OL but that was known before going into the game. Pry seemed to have a little better in game management. Team never quit on the game.
Overall I think there is a good foundation to work with over the offseason. Now just waiting to see how the coaching staff is filled out. Kinda surprised we haven't hired a S&C coach yet.
It's hard to call plays that are going to work behind a bad O Line, ESPECIALLY since Bowen uses them differently than standard pass protection of being a wall of meat (because they definitely can't do that). Given our two best linemen left, the offense was going to struggle, especially after seeing how good their line and LBs were. This is also why we need a good S&C coach.
AND their line and LBs were being VERY aggressive. There's a reason they got a number of offsides calls against them. They were going or starting to go before the ball was even snapped in a bunch of plays. I don't think we faced pressure that was that aggressive all season. It gives even less time for the QB to make plays or the OLine to do anything because they have to be motionless before the snap. So guys already in motion have an advantage (gotta love physics).
I thought we'd lose by 30+. Enjoyed watching some of the young guys. Felt bad for Pop; if we had a hot route called to counter the blitz, it was well hidden.
Shoulda just put Benji in the wildcat at the goal line.
He's out of answers for being down 14 starters and being in between two coaches and an S&C coach. Don't read too much into it. Also, the refs deciding not to call pass interference other than on that first one against us.
Pry seems good about getting our good players to stay and, if I recall from last year, to play in the bowl game. This year, I think it was probably harder because the players knew we were going to be between coaches so decided to transfer or sit out because they probably figured it would be an L and so they'd go to their new teams or declare for the draft.
And no coach at Miami!
One of the few chances we will have to win an ACC game. Have to have the huge crowd propel them to victory. Oh yeah, there will be no crowd. Just win baby!
Man, going to the way back machine there. Hadn't thought about that movie in decades
Agree, I also think both can be true. Bowen called a terrible game and the o line was atrocious
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Public Enemy was a rap band I think. I guess he was in it. Probably why never heard of him. I don't listen to rap.
I don't care if it's Bowen or someone else - with THIS OL no offense coordinator is going to be successful. We've seen some really good games from a Bowen offense, but the OL has been the bane of his tenure here. If we can get the line fixed we owe it to ourselves to give Bowen a full season to really show what his offense can do.
I'm assuming you meant to add the /s
Greene and Brodie are gonna be special if we can get an oline that gives Pop more than .4 seconds to make a read and throw.
The highlight for me was that Thomas Williams kid. He was flying around everywhere and was where the ball was. Fast, good instincts and definitely not afraid of contact. He looks small though but outside of that I thought he really stood out.
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HOKIES!
Moore doesn't have to do much to improve in what we saw last night
Barely any acc teams won!
With a 300 lb Fuga! 🤣
I don't know if you heard, but their qb was the second coming of Montana!
Having watched those plays in person, if I were Pry, I would have pulled my team off the field until some sort of order was restored. Throw a Bob Knight tantrum and refuse to let the guys go back on the field until someone can give me an explanation and then play the game under protest. I know it's just the sandwich jizz bowl, but personally, I cannot stand that level of incompetence from sports officials. From that "catch" the Minnesota kid made into the next series where PI wasn't a thing, the officials spaced out and stopped watching the game.
I was hoping it was Paul Giamatti

Only thing I can think of is the S&C coach must be on a team that is still playing as well. And there probably isn't a whole lot a S&C coach could probably do in that short amount of time, so why hire the new one away from their team before the last game?