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That's why they have so many tunnels. They stay indoors and underground.
BBQ is too spicy for them.
I took this pic because I felt so bad for the guy, but also schadenfreude.
We can still have the Rose Bowl. We actually do still have the Rose Bowl. They still get their sunset over the San Gabriels, etc. No one is taking that away.
I submit though that Rose Bowl using its position as a hammer to avoid even the concept of a one true champion isn't great either. And they did just that for a long long time. They opposed the BCS that gave Virginia Tech its one shot at a natty. They opposed the four team playoff. They opposed expanding the playoff. That best ever natty game between Texas and USCw ruffled feathers at the time because it wasn't a Big Ten team in the game I am sure.
And yet we are in the first year of what might be the most exciting CFB post season in recent memory and not just a coronation between the Big Ten and the Pac-10/12 (RIP).
I don't even have to get a hotel!
I know that you guys know this- but in production meetings these talking heads are told what to argue. It was 1 million % clear that Joey Galloway was the one that was told to argue for Alabama. He was shameless and kept saying, "well SMU lost" and kept hammering the SOS talking point supporting Bama. He was told to do that. Last year Orvlosky saying that "This FSU team did NOT go undefeated" - because they won with Travis- totally forced and he was told to argue that- no chance he thought that. Also on college game day - mouth breather McAfee and Desmond are told who to pick, etc. It's entertainment- nothing more.
in fact, Pry's best wins in his 3 years have come against 7-win ACC teams (3X) and a 10-3 Sunbelt team. That's it. 4 of Pry's 16 wins. The other 12 wins were against garbage teams with losing records. He hasn't beaten anyone in 3 years. Like, literally no one good.
The only remotely fair point that Saban made was that you could argue SMU - based on his factors- SOR and SOS was ranked too high going into the Clemson game. You COULD argue that intelligently without bias, etc. Point being a loss to Clemson would have knocked them out anyway. SMU did lose to the best OOC team they played, and did not play the top 4 teams in the ACC. If you want to punish them for that before the ACC CG, you could make a case.
PJ Fleck things that because Minn is in the B!G, they should start with a 10 point head start in the bowl game.
I mean lets just outright say it.
Herbie has become an ESPN shill over the years and its only getting more blatant as the years pass. His hammering of FSU last year while now crying over Bama and not saying a goddamn thing about UGa being down their QB and looking mediocre at best against Texas just shows how far he's fallen.
They all sold their souls for the college football money grab and they can all fuck off. I'm not surprised he is sending his kid to Michigan, he left his morals behind decades ago.
Can't blame him
I'd cash in now, too if I was highly regarded at OL and currently being coached by our staff
eh, both of those games happened before Pry.
Importantly, and I think what dc is getting at here, Pry is 0-5 vs non-ACC power conference teams. So, good chance he's going to go 0-6. I think dc will be shocked if we win against Minnesota and I think, unfortunately, I'm with him there.
"He's a big fan of the Rose Bowl which kept the old Bowl spoils system in place for way too long and stood in the way of an actual on-field championship determination for a long long time." - Why have something unique? Why have a great setting for college football at 2pm on NY's day in beautiful Pasadena? Why do that? Why support that? When you can have a coveted "playoff" game at oversized airplane hangar Jerry World that has ZERO college football ties or tradition? Why do that? The Rose Bowl was unique. The Premier League, NHL, NBA have nothing fucking like it... that sucks right? So yeah, let's get rid of it. Let's make it like Chargers/Chiefs was last night- indistinguishable from 100 other games. Also I might remind you - the Rose Bowl played host to probably the greatest natty game in our lifetimes- as it "stood in the way" of crowning a champion.
Pawl is gonna be fine. Sad/Angry Alabama and Auburn fans are his most lucrative raw materials. This is an engagement diamond mine.
Especially since we will have almost a month for him to get healthy and a good showing could go a long way to solidify his draft stock
Late on the draw.
Uh this is terrible. Seeing as we do not have a replacement anywhere close on our roster. And very little depth outside the 5 man rising r-jr class that Chaplin was part of.
DJ Harvey maybe?
Kirk and his ilk stood in the way of modernizing and reforming CFB for years. He's a big fan of the Rose Bowl which kept the old Bowl spoils system in place for way too long and stood in the way of an actual on-field championship determination for a long long time.
Kirk is also a talking points machine that just nakedly says the things that are best for ESPN. They position themselves as stewards of the sport but they are very much not acting as such. Increasingly they are driving the sport on the business and even on-field sides and not just covering it.
I stopped watching virtually anything ESPN produces outside of actual live sports after the Craig James / Mike Leach / Bruce Feldman fiasco*. There might be actual journalists working for ESPN but one cannot take the network seriously as a source of unbiased coverage when they have such large financial stakes in the leagues they are covering. It used to be even the appearance of a conflict of interest was something that a news org would work hard to avoid. Now they have straight up business relationships with different conferences. They direct conference realignment, maybe not in a provable in court way but certainly in effect. ESPN has contributed to the destruction of many rivalries in the hunt for better TV packaging and ratings and now that they've been caught with their dicks out in an era of cable cutting things are going to get even more Hunger Games.
*For those that don't recall, Craig James' kid (Adam James) was at Texas Tech and was being either disciplined for being a disruption in practice or held out of practice for a concussion protocol depending on which account you believe. Craig James was one of the studio personalities at the time and ESPN leaned hard into the story line that Mike Leach had "locked his kid in a closet" in various, precarious-sounding locations. The James family and ESPN big-timed Leach and Texas Tech, punished Bruce Feldman for having written a book with Leach which ESPN had approved but later asked him to stop promoting because ESPN was involved in a lawsuit against Leach, and Leach was ultimately fired ahead of being due contractual bonuses.
The reporting on this is murky and shitty because of ESPNs entanglement and things have only gotten worse. Oh and now ESPN is either pursuing or consummating an ownership arrangement with a gambling services provider so that will work out well from a conflict of interest standpoint I'm sure.
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/feldman-leaves-espn-for-c...
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/01/fired-2009-football-coach-mike-l...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/316733-daddys-little-girl-adam-james...
| STAT | VT | MN |
|---|---|---|
| Team Rank: S&P-F+ | 26 | 29 |
| Team Rank: Massey Composite | 56 | 33 |
| Opponents Rank (Massey Composite Avg) for Wins | 66 | 67 |
| Opponents Rank (Massey Composite Avg) for All | 50 | 50 |
| Opponents Rank (Massey Composite Avg) for Losses | 34 | 33 |
| Conference | ACC | B10 |
| Conf Losses - Opponents Combined W-L Record | 37-11 | 33-16 |
| Best Win | #38 GT 7-5 | #28 Iowa 8-4 |
| Worst Loss | #50 Rutgers 7-5 | #61 UNC 6-6 |
Agree, but the thing is the current VT OL coach (who we hired from South Dakota) lacks a competent resume, therefore he will probably immediately get better coaching right away at other P4 schools.
I definitely agree another UVA win is nothing to beat our chest about. And I will confess my hate for Miami has likely even surpassed that of UVA. But may my hatred of the Hoos never wane. Miami's just hitting new levels.
Yep and great reference.
I absolutely love this sitcom, one of my all time favorites. I find I have more in common with Hayden Fox than I want to admit.
I actually don't even really harbor that much rivalry hatred for UVA anymore. It's just become beating up on your little brother every year at this point. The Miami game was probably the most passionate I was for any game this season. I feel like that is our true rival and measuring stick in football.
Pry and Co. holding the Commonwealth Cup during signing day and branding ourselves as the flagship VA school to recruits to me is sort of missing the mark. Most top VA recruits don't care and don't view UVA vs VT as a big deal, and would rather just go out of state to a program like PSU, Clemson, etc. and compete for a playoff bid. Beating our chest after thumping UVA is getting a little old honestly. Miami needs to be the benchmark.
Pry is 3-9 on the road in the ACC. He has beaten UVA, Stanford, and BC on the road as VT's head coach. Nothing about his resume is good thus far.