Recent Comments

Some VT starting at roughly 3:08, and some newer VT ones I hadn't seen at around 4:00. The alley oop to Chris Clarke dunking on what looks like Matt Galloway might be the best part.

I think Ludacris is a safe choice from the rap department given his deep ties to Georgia and his long-standing status in the entertainment industry.

Vince doesn't necessarily make the kinda music well-off white folks from Georgia want to listen to haha. And Chance is my f'in guy, but neither make as much sense as Luda for UGA.

Okay, so basically, what I said originally still holds. You'd pay more for the tickets plus the seat and get less donation value out of it, but if the total cost was a wash, folks might be more willing to look past it.

The donation part does affect your level.

I don't believe the ticket value affects your level, but you do get Hokie Club points for season tickets, so they do improve your club ranking.

I'm open to whatever ideas they want to propose. I'm a Hokie Club member, but not a season ticket holder as I don't live in the area.

I've always thought it odd the way they currently do it, as the season tickets seem really cheap, which makes Hokie Club membership really focused on the level of game tickets. What if you want basketball tickets, instead? What if you want both?

It seems to make sense to me to bill the market value of the seats to season ticket holders, and Hokie Club donations should be just that, donations to the Hokie Club. I'm guessing that in the long run, the Hokie Club would make more money that way. Some mix of those is also fine.

Out of town Hokie Club members would be on a level playing field with "in town" Hokie Club members, and ticket holders would be paying something closer to market value for their seats. They'd still get Hokie Club points for their season tickets.

I have no idea if this is what they're proposing or not.

There will be a Town Hall meeting at the Dublin Lions Club on May 4th. It is for Pulaski area hokies. Scott Hughes will be there to go over things. Encourage you to attend if you live in the Pulaski county area. Also by surcharges, from my understanding the only people that its mainly going to effect are those that have 50 yard line seats and haven't improved their financial giving. So basically you could have someone only giving $500 a year sitting on the 50 which I personally don't think is right if you have someone else putting up a couple of grand. Now I may be wrong on this, which is why I will be attending to get things straight. Following is a link of the town hall meetings coming up so hopefully you can attend one close to you.

http://hokieclub.com/townhallmeetings/

The donation involved with buying a seat doesn't go towards your Hokie Club status? Didn't know that. I guess I just assumed it would. Oh well, still tax deductible.

I wouldn't mind that change, as sadly the annoying part is already present and wouldn't be changing (the ticket donation not counting towards HC level).

The same news stations (and in many cases the same reporters) who crucified Valvano down here in Raleigh, essentially forcing him out are the same ones who are now trying to bury the UNC scandal.

Valvano was caught giving shoes to his players
UNC was caught in the middle of outright academic fraud

Sometimes, the NCSU mindset that its them against the world down here really does hold water very well.

Seems a little premature, since he doesn't even know what they're proposing.

and they can plug Smith in and not lose much

Cat Barber was all they had this year. He was a finalist for ACC player of the year and he was a highly talented recruit out of High school. I see a huge drop off at PG which is the most important position in my opinion. Smith might be a great player by the end of the season, but I don't see any freshman coming in and playing near Cat Barber's level right out of the gate. Every team game planned just for him.

The problem with State last year is they didn't have perimeter scoring that was consistent other than Barber.

How will this get fixed? Gottfried has one player coming in this year. This is extremely similar to the VT team with Erick Green. We couldn't find production besides one player, that player graduated and we didn't improve. Sure Gottfried has better players than we did, but NC State Basketball fans are not VT basketball fans and the ACC is only getting tougher. If Gottfried under performs again, he will be gone next year. NCSU has much higher expectations.

I mean we have a basketball player playing football.... so why not have football players playing basketball?

This sort of system is already in place I believe. It was when they had the club seats for sale last year, so I'd imagine it's very similar for other seats. Obviously, Hokie Club priority gets you better seats, so you can tie that in with this situation as well.

Last year I was able to select my seats at the beginning of June, however last year was my first year in the HC so I'm sure I was very low on the list. I'm not sure when the members at the top of the list are able to select their seats.

FYI, there was a donation-based system put into the PSU athletic department ticket strategy a few years back. I wasn't sure about the details so I asked a knowledgeable coworker about it and here was his response:

Basically, you make a donation to the Nittany Lion Club for the rights to buy seats. How much you give determines which seats you can select from. 50 yard line means more $ than on the 5 yard line.

There used to be a point based system where you accrued points over time. Your number of points determined seating choices, bowl game ticket purchasing priority, etc. Football season tickets, basketball tickets, joinging alumni association, all gave you points. I still accrue points on my account, but as far as I can tell, they are worthless.

The argument was that some people were hardly donating money, but still had 50 yard line seats for 20 years. The school realized it could charge a lot more for premium seats, so they implemented this new program. It is basically money vs loyalty. I understand arguments for both sides.

One downside to the new system is that many fans just switched to the cheaper seats instead of paying more, so the middle of the stadium can tend to be the most empty.

They started planning the new system in the late 2000's, when the program was on an upswing and Beaver Stadium was full. Unfortunately, it was rolled out right before the sanctions, so it is tough to know if this new system worked or not.

Not sure if this is the kind of thing they're talking about when they say surcharge.

Since I don't believe the town halls have begun yet, the real question is whether the seat surcharge is on top of the current donation level to get those seats or in place of. Then, that would mean that your Hokie Club status wouldn't be as high for your donation and more money would be going to the seat itself. I know there was some complaining on here in years past about how the club seats cost $850 for a season ticket or something like that, but that was $350 for the tickets and $500 donation to be able to have that seat. So if it's still $850 but it's $350 for the tickets, $200 for the seat surcharge and $300 donation, then it's mostly a wash. The only difference is that you wouldn't have as much to be able to deduct as a donation and your Hokie Club donation level would be lower. Now, I have no idea if that's how they will do it, but it's certainly a way that will anger fewer people.

Pages