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I agree with your sentiment. Yesterday wasn't a good day. An expectedly underwhelming recruiting class coupled with losing TG makes the future look bleak. But, looking at the big picture, I think the future is anything but bleak.
-We are bringing back almost every single contributing offensive player from last season.
-We'll be having a new starting 4* QB (or Motley, an experienced starter) working with a HC that is known for bringing out the best in his quarterbacks.
-We have arguably the best returning WR in the ACC.
-We have a RB that finished in the conference top 10 for RB rushing yards. He didn't even start a game until midseason.
-We lost TG, yes. That is a part of modern college football. Coaches change schools. It'll hurt the defense, but at the end of the day I still trust Bud Foster.
-We have young, promising guys on the defense. (Settle, Alexander, Edmunds, Reynolds, many others I'm probably forgetting)
All in all, at this point I see about 6 games on our 2016 schedule that we should win. Call me crazy, but I think the bowl streak will live on into 2017.
Solid viewpoint. I have very little sympathy for them, but I do have some for just what you mentioned. Your comparison is valid, they are employees and this is their supervisor. But, like us normal employees, if our supervisor changes, hopefully you signed on for the company, the work, the benefits, the commute, the food, the swag, etc.
Naw, he's just playing hardball with the negotiations right? He'll be back right guys? guys?
I have very little sympathy for the recruits. They are committing to a school, not a coach and certainly not a position coach.
I agree and disagree with this. College players spend a ridiculous about of time with their position coach. Usually they are the ones who built the relationship for the player to go there. If you were interviewing for a job and your would be new manager was a great person and supervisor but then left shortly after you accepted it and you were left with an ass of a manager, many people would be putting resumes back out there. These are 18 year old kids who are looking up to their position coaches and the rest of the staff as mentors and father figures away from home. For new recruits who signed yesterday and now find out their relationship they built is now meaningless, that is a big concern for many and rightfully so. They are locked in to play for someone they haven't even met now.
While I agree with most of your post, I do have sympathy for the recruits who just made the biggest decision of their lives thus far and a big piece of what that decision was based on is now gone.
Yeah they really showed out in their bowl game. Coaches or no coaches their system was in place, they knew it well and should have been able to execute.
At first I heard the beat/chorus and was like
then I listened to the lyrics about the history of the University and it ended up as
It absolutely makes sense, some pills are hard to swallow even if they do make you feel better... after they have been choked down, chemically broken down by stomach acid and then delivered through the blood stream.
Valid point.
The coaches have 0 experience with any of the players on the roster at QB. I think it will be a true competition and the best guy will play. If that is Motley, then I think he would have taken a big step forward and that is not a bad thing for our program at all and we will have depth behind him. I am pumped for this QB competition because we have a TON of talent there.
I have a feeling Evans ends up being our starter in the fall but that is just a SWAG on my part. I think Durkin ends up in the H-back role early in the spring to provide reps to the others. Lawson and Jackson redshirt, Motley will be a ready and capable back up and will help us out when we need it.
Question, does Evans have the possibility to redshirt within the rules? If he gets hurt in camp and misses the season kind of deal or if Motley just straight up wins the job? There could be some interesting scenarios there.
Soooo, are you willing to disclose how much membership will be? Am I good where I am now?
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Imagine if we were Georgia Tech. Their recruiting class is ranked worse than Wake Forest.
If you redirect your attention to her face, it might help.
I'm in the minority here that don't consider this a bad thing. We had a history of strong DB play long before Gray came on as coach. He did a great job fine tuning an already efficient machine, and he'll be missed on the recruiting trail as well. That being said, this is another example of how long Hokie fans have been spoiled by the staff continuity under Beamer. I think as far as the coaches are concerned, this is not a big deal and I'd imagine they'd be surprised by the rage in this thread. Coaches hop jobs pretty frequently, and it's not a bad thing to have a good coach leave to get experience elsewhere. A college coaching resume isn't just about performance, a good part of it is also who you've worked with. Having a variety of experience in different systems looks good for a coach. This is a great opportunity for Gray to work with different coaches and learn new things, building his resume for a step up the chain. Down the road there's no reason he couldn't come back to VT as DC or even as head coach some day, and now he'll be a more attractive hire to those who don't have an emotional investment in VT football (i.e. not the fans).
I know we'd all love our favorite coaches to stay at VT forever while maintaining a high level of performance on the field and in recruiting, but so does every other fan of every other school. It just isn't realistic, and the speculation that he's leaving because of pay cuts or personality conflicts is just a heaping stack of bullshit. No one outside the football program has any idea how Gray felt about the new contract, how he gets along with the new staff, or why he's chosen to leave VT. Going around and around in circles about the pay cut is pure conjecture based on no real facts and amounts to nothing more than intellectual masturbation, it satisfies a need to vent, but in the end accomplishes absolutely nothing.
Um, who is that?
I have serious doubts that the coaching staff will bend to the wishes of the fan base. If Motley wins the job it's because the coaches truly believe he gives us the best chance to win. If he doesn't get the starting job it will be because the coaches feel like someone else gives us the best chance to win. The fan support/uproar will have nothing to do with it.
While true, keep in mind Fuente sat his experienced QB in favor of a very unpolished lynch his second year at memphis
i'm a bit confused with this post...yet no worries about NSD
I am excited. We didn't blow anyone out of the water with this class but we got guys in the positions we needed. It also sounds like Bud got guys HE wanted in the LB area and we have some young talent at DE for him to work with. I am excited for next year's class and the season. Missing on Bailey and those guys stinks but I think recruiting will tick up this season with new energy in the program. Fuente's biggest recruiting pitch will be to find a new dean of DBU.
If Shibest doesn't have a top 10 ST/TE this year, cut that salary in half. Come on, this is ridiculous. Another source says that he will be filling in for Coach Gray...dude didn't even recruit well.
While you're correct about the fanbase splitting over Motley, I really really hope that doesn't factor into the decision at all. If he's the best guy, if the coaches think he's the best of the bunch and gives us the best shot to win, I want them to play him.
Will every fan think that way? Sadly, hell no.
I worked with this guy at Liberty during my Masters Degree. Nice guy but yea a lot of student there still roll their eyes about this whole bit. And it's played all the damn time!
Not that we won't lose coaches. But that we won't get you to sign a Letter of Intent and then have the position coach who you were close with sneak out the back door before the ink dries. That will take some damage control from the parents of future classes I'm sure.
I slept on it. Today, I am even more disappointed in losing TG. I think a part of being successful is keeping your best recruiters, which TG was. I would have understood an elevation, I really think he could/should be a DC. But a lateral move? I am disappointed our Atheltic Dept let him get away.
The secondary was the one area that seemed to be our bread&butter in terms of transition to the NFL, one of the major selling points to high school kids. 7/18 Hokies in the NFL are in the secondary (7/10 on the defensive side of ball)
While the profile and assignment of DBs in Bud Foster's system aren't going to change with a new DB Coach, the talent level we attract might. Bud has never shown a real affinity for recruiting. Let's hope TG's replacement can fill the void.
Joe,
A technical point pls make sure they passivate these for you- otherwise they'll develop a slight "rusting" over time.
Yeah, that kinda took me by surprise. Didn't take long for the honeymoon to end, I guess, but that kind of reaction to a position coach leaving seems a little over the top. We don't know why Gray left or whether Fuente, Whit, or the pay cut had anything to do with it, and it remains to be seen if this will negatively impact the program in any way. If we're ready to turn against the HC and AD based solely on that, I think we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Adversity, or in this case perceived adversity, can engender strong emotions. How you express those emotions says a lot about you. Children respond to adversity with rage, adults respond to adversity with reason. Let's be adults.