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If there's a rule change that should be implemented, it's that if the QB doesn't actually throw the ball when he's spiking it, then it's intentional grounding or a fumble. That's the only thing that bothers me about the game that I think needs a rule change.

I have a very easy way for a defense to put a stop to this strategy: stop the offense. Defense does its job, they're only out there for 3 plays at a time.

It's kind of tough to get a solid measurement with him since every time someone even thinks about him he grows an inch.

Loophole, Heart of the game, and Eroding the game are a bit hyperbolic for my taste. It's one thing to say 'I want football to be like the Lunchpail Defense that we know and the jumbo package at Stanford', and it's another to say that the HUNH is going to ruin erode the game. Is it different? Obviously. Will Defensive Coordinators find a way to nullify the substitution effect? Probably, it always take a while for coaches to catch up though. As long as it's not impacting the players health injury wise, I have no aversion to it. Just don't act like the sky is falling because of it while there are much bigger things threatening college football.

Are there alternate streaming sites? The NBC Olympics site isn't working for me.

Also I don't really know any team that practices on fields that are half grass and half turf. The idea of garage like doors is novel but what are the practical issues of these two converted fields. Do players bring both sets of cleats to practice and when they are running a route stop and change cleats before continuing into the indoor facility? When they break into position drills on those nice weather days with the doors open do QB's change cleats after the opening talk to go practice in the indoor facility? And then again to go run plays back on the grass? Seems like as much of a time waster as walking across a street, especially for anyone with an ankle/foot injury that requires taping.

i wasn't talking about the "completion of 2 fields using the indoor turf" as other have alluded to. i was simply talking about having a 100 yard grass field running parallel to the 100 year turf field in the opened up field house.

i think that is what is being lost on people. we still have a 100 yard field outside. i think the drawings were just showing that if we wanted to have 2 outdoor fields, neither would be 100 yards. The coaches will have the flexibility to have the fields lined either direction to accommodate their needs.

Why would you point to Rector Field House as an example? The fact that the team practices there is a joke and is extremely inconvenient. It has been publicly stated as such on many occasions. The fact that the team practices across the street now, in Rector Field House nonetheless, obviously does not support continuing to do so.

With the exception of kick off coverage..none of your photos show 100 yards being used. Most of your photos show people standing around observing. You still havn't convinced me that we need x3 100 yard football fields.

You also pointed to how several big schools have multiple 100 yard fields, but not all of the major programs do. Yes, you're right, larger, southern schools, with lots of real estate, tend to have lots of football fields. What you failed to mention is that every school with multiple fields has located them all directly adjacent to one another. That is not a coincidence my friend. It is a necessity to hold efficient football practices.

All of Alabama's fields are directly adjacent to one another.
All of Auburn's fields are directly adjacent to one another.
All of LSU's fields are directly adjacent to one another.
Texas, has 3 small fields, and an indoor field, and they are all directly adjacent to one another.
Oregon has 1 full size outside field, 2 tiny outside fields, and a full size indoor field. All directly adjacent to one another.

I will also comment on how many of these bigger programs practice fields are further away from their stadiums. In my opinion, VT's particular arrangement, although relatively "light"on real estate, is pretty cool. I like how the practice fields, locker room, weight room, etc are all in the shadow of Lane Stadium. I like how the "Home of the Hokies" on the back of the score board is a prominent visual for the entire football footprint. LSU, as another example, has 4 full length football fields but they practice in the middle of fields across a busy street from their central campus. Texas' practice facilities are located adjacent to and under a busy highway.

"I seriously doubt that almost all D1 universities have multiple fields" - False. Most D1 universities do not have multiple 100 yard outdoor practice football fields. Most SEC schools with more real estate do.

What is factual is that almost all D1 universities have multipel fields directly adjacent to one another. VT made the correct choice to do the same.

My company bid on the project too...but didn't get it. I wanted it so bad...

Miller put 3 guys from PH in the ambulance when I was coaching there in '99. Physical freak!!!!!

They explored locations. Not design solutions. I appreciate the determination of these locations was made by people that know the university better than anyone and why they felt they were the ones to be considered. After doing that though, they scored those locations on an Evaluation Matrix and made a final decision when it should have gone through a design process first. As I stated with regards to the Cassell Lot option, one of it's biggest negatives was that it "created a poor entry sequence". How would anyone know this without seeing a design solution? the are assuming something in there mind that frankly they are not experienced enough to do. Once the steering committee got it down to, for example, top 3 (or even 5) options for locations it should have gone to a design process. maybe someone could have come up with something for another option that would be a better solution than compromising the 2 existing practice fields. How could you know without seeing it? Instead they choose a final option that created a problem that didn't exist previously.

And who said Frank isn't pissed. He all but begged for it to be in the woods and not on the existing fields. His second option was the tennis courts. perhaps he was told that the logistics and cost of moving them was too much to bear so backed Frank into a corner where he had to compromise. Did that happen? I don't know. But no one here does. If the choice was 'well Frank, we can put it on Chicken Hill or Sterrett Complex, because we won't spend to do anything else" and Beamer compromised does that mean he is not pissed about it? Just because he doesn't come out publicly and say "i'm pissed" doesn't mean he isn't. I'm not saying he is or isn't. Quite simply he wanted it to be somewhere other than on the existing fields. He didn't get it. Do you think he is happy about that?

Again I may end up loving the building but I absolutely do not like how the decision was made.

Also I don't really know any team that practices on fields that are half grass and half turf. The idea of garage like doors is novel but what are the practical issues of these two converted fields. Do players bring both sets of cleats to practice and when they are running a route stop and change cleats before continuing into the indoor facility? When they break into position drills on those nice weather days with the doors open do QB's change cleats after the opening talk to go practice in the indoor facility? And then again to go run plays back on the grass? Seems like as much of a time waster as walking across a street, especially for anyone with an ankle/foot injury that requires taping.

I don't mean to downplay the proximity issue. I know it's the primary "want" of the project but without at least exploring options for alternate solutions and really seeing them you may not know what is really acceptable to you in terms of distance. And as I said Beamer was good for the distance to the tennis court option, which is at least the same distance if not more to the Cassell Lot option. So if he was OK for one why not the other?

Anyway, my main gripe is on how the made this decision. I dislike that it took away the opportunity to at least see creative solutions to the problem. I also dislike that the compromise they made created a problem for the football team that did not exist previously.

What about spiking the ball to stop the clock? The rule would only allow that in the last two minutes maybe. Sometimes you want to save clock with more than two minutes to go because you need a couple scores. If you don't have timeouts then you can lose a lot of clock.

I disagree with the rule. Sometimes you have instances when it comes down to who not has the best players, but who has the best strategy. Football is a lot of X's and O's, and teams with less overall "talent" can beat better teams because they have a better game plan.

I mean, sure, this rule would probably benefit VT in the long run given that we are usually a defensive team, but isn't it more satisfying that you beat an opponents best?

Shame on Canada
With their beady little eyes their heads all full of lies

Preventing a 9th second snap would prevent an offense from trapping a defense in the process of swapping out players during a substitution.
You can prep to substitute then have the guys get off the field while new ones come on, not drawing a 5 yd penalty.

Unless you planned for it. Then, it could be designed that way.

Thank you. Understood about the difference, best friend is an architect, we've had this very discussion regarding building a brewery with rooftop beer garden.

Cost, cost, cost.

I read from a different source (of which I forget or I would include it) that even the fastest hurry up teams rarely have a snap with less than a 10 second run-off. Is this is the only proponent of the rule change change, I don't think it would be much of a change for most hurry-up offenses.
I can't recall is this includes allowing the defense to substitute every play, which would definitely change things, but if not, even a 10 second wait would not drastic affect. (Though it seems unlikely it will pass)

edit: it seems like the rule is to give ten seconds to allow the defense to substitute, but doesn't mandate that the offense must wait for substitutions. 10 seconds isn't a lot of time, so even if the offense runs up to the ball and has to wait an extra second or two, the defense wouldn't have time to do much except substitute their 2nd string, if that. But again, most of the hurry-up offense take at least 10 or so seconds anyways, so it wouldn't have much impact except on the fastest of fastest teams.

I don't think either one of is saying that this is not the case. But we are obviously sitting on either side of the fence. To be honest I would not use design build contracts for anything other than infrastructure projects. I personally believe that there is a design process that must be followed to achieve the best results. Designers design project. Engineers construct project. Contractors build projects.

I have seen the work of brilliant engineers and contractors, and have seen first hand how much they can contribute to any project. But I think these 3 skill sets achieve the best results when they are left separate and not housed together under one contract.

Inherently there is a need for these sides to conflict so that different perspectives come to bear. The weight of the separate contracts ensures that the various sides will push the other to be better. I believe that this is the only way to get the best finished product, no matter how frustrated I sometimes get at the weekly meetings.

Yep.

And the whole "four corners" comparison didn't make sense either. The hurry-up is designed to move the ball and score quickly -- which is the exact opposite of what the four-corners was supposed to accomplish.

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