Shot-from-the-hip observations

Edit: Moved to the front because they are great discussion points.

- Beforehand, I promised myself that I wouldn't get that upset if we lost. Considering how we started the season, where we ended up was pretty incredible. I didn't think we'd win a game this year walking out of Lane after JMU. Still, I'm upset with how we looked, especially in that 2nd half. I'll enjoy Tyrod' ridiculous TD pass for a while, but will do my best to forget the absolute nothing we did in the 2nd half.

- Let's look on the bright side: Ryan had like 3 carries. No stage to show off for the NFL. I feel like if he was on the fence about going or staying, tonight should help him decide to return.

- 8 sacks. Come on. I don't know shit about football but is a 3-4 that much different or difficult to defend? UVA had good linebackers and Chris Long and we ate their lunch. You have 5 offensive lineman and at least a running back to block, if not a tight end or two. Unless you are pulling lineman and running screens, how the hell do their guys just come through completely unblocked?

- What is the deal with the shoulder-throw-my-body-into-you tackle? Rock and Davon are guilty of this. Is it a size thing? Why don't they try to wrap up?

- Scrap the whip position. JGW was JGW tonight. Play Jack Tyler and Lyndell or Chase next year with Bruce and Barq. Have a heavy three-linebacker look and rotate it out with the nickel or 30 look. Even his pick-six in the ACC championship was a "oh shit, I'm out of position" play.

- Coale and Boykin with big games. Great to see John Graves have a great outing too. Sorry that Davon got poster-ized most of the day.

- Even if we won, 2-1253 against top #5 wouldn't make ESPN and company drop that stat against top 5 teams

- Bud just said "ass" instead of "tail" in reference to "busting our (team effort)" - awesome

- Wish Tyrod could have redshirted. What could have been. I really hope we aren't going to pull a 2010 Florida or Texas next year.

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We made Luck look good

He made good throws but we left receivers wide open. Most any college QB would look good against us. Not sure what happened but we did not make offensive adjustments in the second half. I think BS got the deer in the headlights syndrome.

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The big runs when we had Stanford stuck in long down and distance are what really got me. It was the same power play every time, Stanford pulled around the guard and he opened up a huge hole, no one filled. We talk about being a "physical" team which is absolutely laughable. In four years Harbaugh built a smash-mouth team at an academic school. We need to watch film on Stanford to understand what being physical up front is all about.

Agree

If you have ever watched highlight video from our 1999 era teams you can see how much more physical we were.

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agree on all points. hard to

agree on all points.
hard to watch though.
and what the heck with stanford's motions?

That one play

When they were doing all their shifting probably got a warning from the refs for unsportsmanlike behavior. They were clearly taunting us. It was a little over the top. I'm glad we stuffed the run on that play and put a good lick on the running back.

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Fridge for Stiney?

Could we pull the trigger on this?
Unfortunately, I think Frank is loyal to a fault. The predictably of his play calling is horrible.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

The problem with hiring the Frideg is that he is a good friend of Beamer, like Stiney, and if he didn't produce we would be in the same situation. It seems risky to make big staffing changes. Stability is what keeps a good program going winning 10 games a year. I don't think Beamer wants to tinker too much and possibly hurt the program. With good fortune and things comming together for a special year we could win a championship. The odds are probably against it but it is very difficult to win a National Championship even with the best coaching staff around.

If we had a great OC that put us in the top 5 consistently he probably wouldn't be around for long. We also can't afford ($) the top coaching talent. If we Hokie fans want to win a NC we either have to hope for a special year or we have to become a different program. I'm not sure we can or want to become a different program. So the next best thing is to improve our offense just a little. Maybe not the top coaching talent but someone that can do consistently better agaist tougher competition.

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well....

Fridge is much better than Stiney at play calling, and in a specific role, such as OC, could really make a difference. I for one am willing to take the chance to pull the trigger on this. I mean, it can't be worse than Stiney!!!

And, down the road, if Fridge puts us in the top 5 consistently and hops ship, we have an opening for a young talent that will call great plays (Bonus-Stiney is still out the door, or in a limited role, or gets re-promoted and has seen a good offense from the inside.)

I agree with the special season for a NC, but I'm pretty sure Stiney plays absolutely no role in that...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

The problem with hiring the

The problem with hiring the Frideg is that he is a good friend of Beamer, like Stiney, and if he didn't produce we would be in the same situation.

True, but Fridge is proven to be an ultra successful play caller and developer of QBs.

It seems risky to make big staffing changes. Stability is what keeps a good program going winning 10 games a year. I don't think Beamer wants to tinker too much and possibly hurt the program. With good fortune and things comming together for a special year we could win a championship. The odds are probably against it but it is very difficult to win a National Championship even with the best coaching staff around.

Agree, like I said above we're going to see how comfortable Beamer really is. Is he OK with his legacy being a good, consistent coach that doesn't win big games, or will he want to shake things up and make another serious run at a MNC before his career is over. He's earned the right to make that decision so I'm OK with it either way.

Some other observations

-The pre-halftime clock management was pretty questionable. I think we had about 8 seconds on the clock and spiked the ball near the goal line. Then we dicked around and burned our last timeout? We had time for one more quick throw and if that didn't work you call the timeout and kick the field goal. If we really needed more time why not just spike the ball again?

-The option worked well and I'm glad we stuck with it for one whole play.

-Tyrod was/is/and will always be brilliant, but something was off between him and the receivers. He had a lot of overthrown balls and there were some drops - Boykin, Smith (I'll name names, Ned Isakoff)

-No creativity with the play calling. What happened to that offensive spark and gimmicky stuff that Stiney used during the middle of the season. I feel like he never learns. Maybe a flea flicker, a lateral, even a reverse would have maybe shifted the momentum back in our favor. Hell, after trying to run up the gut and deep routes all night, I guess even an outside run or a screen could be considered trick plays. Bring on the Fridge.

Lastly, I'm just really disappointed...again. And I'm also really worried because next season we open against Appy State, so think about that for the next 240 days.

Agree

The play calling, at least in the second half, was less than creative and showed no recognition of the game situation, i.e. very little adjustments were made and didn't go back to the plays that worked in the first half. The same formations were used over and over. We were blitzed like 30 plays. We didn't have much success picking it up in the second half. I don't think we picked up the blitz at all in the 4th quarter. It was like an endless loop of the same play over and over.

I am really pissed we didn't give TT and the offense a chance to score towards the end of the game. I can understand the coaches wanting to end the misery and get out of Dodge. But they let the clock run even when we made defensive stops and did not use timeouts to give the offense another chance to salvage their pride.

Maybe what really happend in the second half was that the coaches lost confidence, lost focus and the players sensed it. The guys couldn't come up with any big plays to change the momentum and snap the coaches out of their funk so it just slipped away. I think that happened more so on the offensive side but BF also seemed to run out of steam. FB seemed to lack enthusiasm as well.

Outside of the blocked extra point special teams didn't do too much. Well, they also stopped the fake punt, which was sweet. I loved the look on Harbaugh's face. He guessed we were going for the block and thought he would catch us. That was a big highlight of the game. I thought we would be able to maybe break a punt return, since Stanford was almost last in punt yards allowed, but they covered us well.

If I just remember the first half of the game I am really happy.

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The pre-halftime clock

The pre-halftime clock management was pretty questionable. I think we had about 8 seconds on the clock and spiked the ball near the goal line. Then we dicked around and burned our last timeout? We had time for one more quick throw and if that didn't work you call the timeout and kick the field goal. If we really needed more time why not just spike the ball again?

Also, I found it rather frustrating that we didn't use our timeouts on Stanford's last possession of the first half. It came off like we had no confidence in getting the stop (which we did) and let 50 seconds come off the clock. If we had that time back we probably would have had seven and not three.

Something else to consider

Unless defensive scheme changes are made, we are always going to get our lunch eaten by big, physical offensive lines. We play undersized almost at every position. No Aaron Rouse-sized rovers on this squad. It makes great for a speed advantage, but our linebackers couldn't even get off of Wake Forest's blocks. We will always be pushed around by bigger teams. If our scheme is designed to funnel the ball to linebackers, then we need guys who will make the tackle too. I'll take three Vince Halls please.

We need Stiney to start listening to Ludacris