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I don't get people. I take my football seriously but let's remember these are kids playing. Most of this team isn't even of legal drinking age yet and someone is calling to threaten CoJo's life? People need to get some perspective.
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Dude won at least 4 games all by himself last year and put a big one through against GT. Not even touching the fact that there's no acceptable reason whatsoever to threaten the life of a fellow human being (and Hokie) over a game of football (that we won, no less). Seriously, people.... That guy's just lucky he wasn't messin with one of Mama Fuller's boys.
Sigh... there are crazy people everywhere. I would have hoped that Hokie Nation would be above garbage like this, but apparently a few crazies (or at least one) have snuck into our ranks as well. Hopefully he can put this out of mind and get back to the basics, we need him to get back to last season's form.
Hopefully, this falls into the "there's one in every crowd" category.
Can we get a Cody Journell-specific pump-up video to play before he kicks? Dozer? Strawther? Anyone?
If he's dealing with this, he deserves to be shown those of us that are sane support him. I did like that he invited anyone with a problem to meet him when he got back. I think they would have had a few more players than just him to deal with, though.
Good idea! We really need him to perform well and he needs to know we are behind him 100%.
How about we blast Wild Thing into the speakers ala Major League as he walks out to set up for a kick.
Whatever helps the kid out I'm all for it. Pretty fitting song selection LOL
It is ridiculous the way some fans are. I hope he doesn't have to deal with this anymore.
However other countries fan basis for soccer would have out right physically attacked him for missing all of his kicks and the ways he handles himself off the field. Wonder if the fear he or his mother felt is anywhere similar to that of someone robbing you at gunpoint? hmmm
All that said...whoever did it is an idiot and I hope it doesn't happen again.
You cannot single out the sport of soccer and accuse other countries of worse actions when similar situations have and will continue to occur in the US...
I love soccer too, but soccer fans are generally more violent than fans of any sport in the US. So many examples of people being killed by opposing fans, riots, refs being chased out of stadiums, hell there was a war fought over a soccer game once.
war over a soccer game? whats the story there?
Well, there were a lot of other things that happened to cause the war. But if I understand everything I've read about it correctly there were a few soccer games that ended up being the tipping point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War
so that seems like a case where the people of both countries were already using sports as a proxy for war during a volatile time, and it spilled over into actual military aggression.
either way that mid-20th century central american instability will get after ya. chachi (honduras hokie)? any thoughts?
The Hondurans and the Salvadorians still don't like each other very much. The soccer match was a tipping point, but the real background behind the war was all about fighting over a contested border. They've ironed out the border issues, but they still hate each other's soccer teams. Fortunately this World Cup cycle, El Salvador did not qualify for the final elimination round, and Honduras is on the verge of qualifying ahead of Mexico after beating the even more hated Mexicans on their own turf. Needless to say, the Hondurans are feeling very good about themselves, since soccer is the ONLY sport they care anything about down here. I have learned to appreciate it, but I never watch it for entertainment.
Now let's get back to talking about how VT is going to destroy UNC this week and send those class-skipping, test-cheating, preseason over-rated, defensively challenged, Coastal champ wannabe's playing for that basketball-focused excuse for a fanbase, back down to crappy hill, NC.
Player gets mad, refs stabs player to death, fans cut ref into quarters and put his head on spike at centerfield...for an amateur soccer game.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357453/Brazilian-referee-behead...
And I thought the parents at the youth games I ref were bad.
Calm down... I didn't single out the sport but said the fact that this happens.
That sounds like a guarantee. Its generalizing about an entire sports fan base. From personal experience, I've seen way more violence caused by sporting events in the United States than I ever have of attending 6+ years of European soccer games.
As someone who is of Colombia descent (and who still roots for Deportivo Cali), I can't think of an incident in the US similar to the murder of Andres Escobar following his own goal against the US in the 94 World Cup. Here is a tremendous research paper on violence associated with soccer in Colombia.
http://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/research-projects/politics-and-sport-in-latin...
But see the issue I have with it is that all these stories being posted are happening in countries that have histories of violence. Brazil is still extremely dangerous in some parts of the country, Columbia as well. These events aren't happening just because soccer is being played. Events like these can happen on the daily basis, and they made news because it happened to be at a sporting event. If you go to a game in a country that is more similar to the US in nature (I don't want to say civilized or developed because that is way too general), you don't have these types of things occurring. I've been to countless European soccer games and have never once felt any sense of insecurity.
As for the actual actions, you are correct, maybe nothing that direct has happened before in mainstream US sports. I feel this is part due to the security that now is involved with professional athletes and there prospective teams. But there are still plenty stories that come out in the US about fans killing other fans either during or immediately after sporting events. You hear all the time about the parent that took their child's game too seriously and assaulted or killed a referee or a coach. Hell, this happened just this year.
[url] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/ricardo-portillo_n_3707197.html [/url]
The fact that I am trying to make is that generalizing about an entire sports fanbase based on the actions of a few is a bit overboard. Not to mention, there are WAYY more soccer fans on this earth than there are football, or baseball, or any other mainstream US sport. So naturally, there is also the likelihood that there are going to be more bad ones as well.
The ESPN 30 for 30 "The Two Escobars" was also an excellent documentary culminating in Andres's murder. The documentary claimed, though, that the murder was not in reaction to the own goal, but that it was simply thuggery at a bar that escalated due to a 'lack of respect'.
Haven't read the paper yet, though, so I can't comment on it
FFS, people can be so stupid. It's not like the one he missed vs GT was exactly the world's easiest FG. If it were straight on from within the 30 and he missed it, I can see getting pissed, that should be a gimme. But from the left hash? Fuck. off.
Eh, I'm not for any of what I've heard, regardless of the position on the field.