I'm taking off work Thursday and Friday and staying the weekend for Brew Do. Going to be two days and nights of heavy drinking capped off with a beer festival. I can't wait!
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I'm taking a half day Thur (I only live 25 min away from BBurg) and also taking Friday off.
Will be at the tailgate by 1pm! So freakin excited!!! :) Did I hear a mention of a TKP tailgate??
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ive got a pretty nice tailgate that all members of thekeyplay are more than welcome to come to! a little bit of a trek to the game but great spot, great people, and lots of booze/food
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Same here... Thursday night games = automatic 4 day weekend! Going to get in some hiking and visit some of the breweries popping up around Roanoke before heading back.
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Me, my Wife, and our daughter are coming down from NJ for the Miami game.....wish I'd known about the BrewDo earlier.....we would have booked to stay thru Saturday and entered the homebrew competiton....alas, I'll just have to share my homebrewed Belgian Trippel (9.8% ABV) with TKP friends i'm looking forward to meeting for the first time....we've secured a lot 9 parking pass, and plan to make sure we connect with anyone who's in the lots near us (I.E., Egbert, lot 16), as well as with any official TKP tailgate, if there is one.
Also...just found out this week when it showed up on my doorstep, that my wife snuck on here and got me one of those sweet TKP shirts that came out last month....I now feel fully dipped.......
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if my wife was not on call that night I would drive up from Myrtle Beach for the game. Her call schedule always seems to fall on big games, OSU, bowl game last year, Miami.
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Thursday night games rarely sell out in Lane. Even when we were dominating the ACC, the Thursday night games were generally one of the easier tickets to get.
Not everyone can afford to take 2 days off of work in October/November and pay for tickets & hotel.
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Ahh yes the "sell-out" streak. The streak that was perpetuated by donors buying up tickets in the weeks leading up to games in order to continue the streak, but in reality, attendance was already on the decline and tickets were becoming more plentiful in the secondary markets.
In 2009 I bought a ticket to the UNC Thursday night game the week of the game through HokieTickets.com. These tickets were not in the visitors section, either. There were tickets still available in the days leading up to the game, and yet, somehow it still counted towards out sellout streak.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't value that sellout streak with anything more than a grain of salt.
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Money is money, whether the butt is in the seat or not. The fans, players, and coaches want a capacity stadium, but the Athletics Department just wants a sell-out. The sell-out streak to them was the number of games where they made 100% of possible profit on ticket sales which matters.
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In all the bragging about the sellout streak, nobody ever said the last tickets were sold at full price. Let's not forget how common it is to allocate a group of tickets to an academic department and consider them 'sold'. I know that has been done frequently in the last decade-plus.
Also, let's remember how common it is for sponsors - Kroger, Hardees, etc. - to 'purchase tickets' in lieu of paying certain advertising dollars. Sponsor X has an agreement for $100K in advertising, and as part of that agrees to accept up to, let's say, 100 tickets the week of any home game. They then turn around and donate those to civic groups, etc. to write off themselves. On paper, the tickets are 'sold', the sponsor makes a charitable donation, and the advertising agreement is fulfilled.
There are multiple ways to achieve a 'sold out' game that don't actually involve the regular fan base ordering tickets up to the last minute, and full ticket price cash going into the till. Sure, we had a 93 game streak or whatever it was, but that was pointless bragging rights when you could sit in Lane and see empty corners for several home games. It's quite similar to bragging about going to a bowl game when your regular season ends at 6-6. Yes, technically you 'achieved' that bowl game or that sell out, but peel back one single layer of context and it looks pretty shallow.
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Do you think every seat is always filled at Stadiums that claim sell out steaks? But guess what telling a recruit we have _______ years of straight sell outs, is a nice little feather in the cap. I respect those people for putting money up to keep the streak alive.
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The Superdome has a listed football seating capacity of 76,468
Official attendance was listed at 64,512
Sugar Bowl, Tech was allotted 17,500 tickets, and sold just 9,877.
In 2011, Tech sold 7,000 of its allotted 17,500 tickets to the Orange Bowl.
In regards to donors buying up tickets this may help
NCAA bylaw 20.9.7.3 requires all schools to sell at least 15,000 seats per game. But for attendance it states -
Each school decides if it wants to use actual attendance or paid attendance to determine if it met the minimum. Schools are also allowed to count purchases of large blocks of tickets, as long as they are sold for at least one-third their face value.
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I think the point is that if you want this game to "sell out" then someone needs to put the pressure on the same donors who bought up all the tickets to artificially generate the "sell out" in the past for Thursday games.
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Well, I have my season tickets and will be there, despite having a work meeting the next morning at 7:30 am. Not going to be a lot of sleep that night.
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Blew my going-to-VT-games money on the OSU game this year. AND IT WAS TOTALLY WORTH IT. If I lived closer than a 6 hr drive I would love to head back for the Thurs night game. I need some Hokies with a camper to avoid those hotel charges.
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I think one of the things affecting people's choice to go is that all of the hotels around Blacksburg now require 2-day minimums for football weekends at an inflated rate. The rates were bad enough, but the 2-day minimum is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
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Of course it's an inflated rate. That's how the hospitality business works. On sell out nights, you get as much as the market will bear. On non sellout nights, you take as little as you can that covers your costs and doesn't establish too low of a precedent.
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Except what he's saying is that you have to pay for the inflated rate two nights in a row, even though you only want one night. Artificially driving up the demand on non sellout nights by forcing people to stay the extra night.
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Correct, that's what I'm saying, that second night is a killer if you want to stay within the Christiansburg/Blacksburg area. If i'm going to stay two nights, I want to do it where Blacksburg is accessible easily, I don't want to have to haul back and forth from Dublin or Salem or Roanoke.
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Yep, we pretty much could have spent a week at the beach for what we dropped on the Bill & Mary weekend. But it was so totally worth it. The beach will always be there, but Bucky, Marshawn, Shai, Brewer, Isaiah, and Cam all making their Hokie debuts -- that was once in a lifetime. Oh, and we got to sit near Marshawn's family and they were soooo excited to watch him play!
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I'm coming and bringing my 8yr old for his first Thursday night game! He has been to all home games past 3yrs excluding Thur night contests.....we are both jacked!
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There are now 7 fewer available, thank you very much.
We've been planning on this being our annual visit to Virginia for a game. I've been looking at stubhub and just not happy with the choices (and prices). So, this hit the spot. 7 seats together in South EZ (505), row R. To be specific, here's the view from the seats....
I did my part and purchased my two tickets along with airline and brew-do tickets, my vacation budget is tapped but I need a little Thursday night Lane Stadium in my life.
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For selfish reasons, I am not mad. One of my friends (a non-Hokie) doesn't know if he has enough leave to take off so I haven't bought my 5-6 tix yet. I told him if he doesn't have enough leave, he needs to quit his job.
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I'd like to think that 'winning cures all' but the fact attendance is down everywhere means there are other factors at play. Plenty of articles explore the issue but I figure it just comes down to external factors, like home theaters and lack of smartphone bandwidth in stadiums.
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Yeah, you know the lack of bandwidth has a pretty decent impact when there's a TV time out and I want to see what's going on in the rest of the ACC.
I also considered one game listening to the play by play on the radio but, delay and could not stay connected.
My Dad also likes to watch the game from his house in FL and text me throughout the game. I get a stack of texts not long after leaving the stadium.
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It was also cold and rainy for that game...and I believe those pics are when it appeared that MSU was going to win handily.
Nevertheless, attendance is an issue almost everywhere these days. IMO, its not going to get better as long as conferences, ADs and the networks continue the downward spiral of becoming NFL-lite and acting like game crowds are merely props for TV.
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I'd get two if I could find a place to stay that wasn't a ripoff. Up until this year, since graduating in '97, I've had either a friend that still lived in the 'Burg, or a family member of some sort that was a student each year. Always had a free place to crash, but no more. :-(. I just can't bring myself to pay the ripoff rates the hotels are charging.
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A couple things to check on, if you haven't already. If you were driving up, check out hotels in the Wytheville area. It's normally far enough away that the football crowd doesn't affect their pricing. If you're flying in, a lot of the airport hotels aren't really affected by the football crowd either.
Other options are checking around on Airbnb. Several places to stay, some of which people will increase the price because football, but there are a few gems. At the beginning of the year, I had to stay overnight because of a conference and only paid 60 bucks, versus 110+ most other places.
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Just found out one of my buddies coming to the game bought a parking pass for Lot 2. I'm so stoked, we usually do Price's Fork and the walk can be 30-45 minutes. Now more time for friends, booze, deer meat, tailgate scenery, and this giant Jenga game a friend built for us.
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I shall be in attendance...promised my cousin (who is a freshman) that I would make a trip at least once this year so might as well get me some VT vs Miami on Thursday Night.
Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner!
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Okay, so I'm kind of lazy and didn't do a whole lot of research but (with the exception of last year) in my memory we have had 2 Thursday night games a year for the last 5+ years (one away, one home) and usually they are back to back. Are there any other teams that even have two Thursday night games in a season??? The brief amount of research that I DID do brought up 0 results
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Well, for one thing we didn't play any Thursday night games last year.
But yeah, in general our AD and Coach have been open to playing on Thursday night. Up until the NFL started playing so many Thursday games early in the season, Thursday night was kind of the MNF of college ball. National broadcast, no other football game to watch. Great way to build the VT brand.
Usually they are back to back to avoid having both bye weeks used up by Thursday games (and to avoid short weeks)
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Nobody else in the nation has been as eager to embrace Thursday night games as we were in the past. Both Weaver & Beamer decided it was a good idea early in our ACC membership to 'volunteer' for double Thursday games. Frank liked the exposure for recruiting and the 1.5 week breaks it provided without creating a full two week break with a bye week. Weaver liked the exposure and the fact that we 'volunteered' for what was viewed at that time as an inconvenience more than an opportunity.
That's how we got into the habit of two Thursday night games a season.
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What is HokieNation waiting on? I guarantee you that watching Bucky Hodges dance in person is a lot better than watching it on TV.
Was at anOSU. It is a sight to behond in person
I can't wait!!! Come on guys let's fill Lane up with maroon!! The Blacksburg
Brew Do is that weekend as well. http://www.blacksburgbrewdo.com/
I'm taking off work Thursday and Friday and staying the weekend for Brew Do. Going to be two days and nights of heavy drinking capped off with a beer festival. I can't wait!
I'm taking a half day Thur (I only live 25 min away from BBurg) and also taking Friday off.
Will be at the tailgate by 1pm! So freakin excited!!! :) Did I hear a mention of a TKP tailgate??
ive got a pretty nice tailgate that all members of thekeyplay are more than welcome to come to! a little bit of a trek to the game but great spot, great people, and lots of booze/food
I may swing by... so excited for this one
Same here... Thursday night games = automatic 4 day weekend! Going to get in some hiking and visit some of the breweries popping up around Roanoke before heading back.
Me, my Wife, and our daughter are coming down from NJ for the Miami game.....wish I'd known about the BrewDo earlier.....we would have booked to stay thru Saturday and entered the homebrew competiton....alas, I'll just have to share my homebrewed Belgian Trippel (9.8% ABV) with TKP friends i'm looking forward to meeting for the first time....we've secured a lot 9 parking pass, and plan to make sure we connect with anyone who's in the lots near us (I.E., Egbert, lot 16), as well as with any official TKP tailgate, if there is one.
Also...just found out this week when it showed up on my doorstep, that my wife snuck on here and got me one of those sweet TKP shirts that came out last month....I now feel fully dipped.......
if my wife was not on call that night I would drive up from Myrtle Beach for the game. Her call schedule always seems to fall on big games, OSU, bowl game last year, Miami.
Thursday night games rarely sell out in Lane. Even when we were dominating the ACC, the Thursday night games were generally one of the easier tickets to get.
Not everyone can afford to take 2 days off of work in October/November and pay for tickets & hotel.
The steak of 93 sell outs would say differently.
I think you're both right - the Thurs night games were always sold out, but most often not 100% full. Always 100% loud, but not always 100% full.
It also looks like a ton of the available seats were returned by Miami. Section 39 is basically all for sale.
Ahh yes the "sell-out" streak. The streak that was perpetuated by donors buying up tickets in the weeks leading up to games in order to continue the streak, but in reality, attendance was already on the decline and tickets were becoming more plentiful in the secondary markets.
In 2009 I bought a ticket to the UNC Thursday night game the week of the game through HokieTickets.com. These tickets were not in the visitors section, either. There were tickets still available in the days leading up to the game, and yet, somehow it still counted towards out sellout streak.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't value that sellout streak with anything more than a grain of salt.
Money is money, whether the butt is in the seat or not. The fans, players, and coaches want a capacity stadium, but the Athletics Department just wants a sell-out. The sell-out streak to them was the number of games where they made 100% of possible profit on ticket sales which matters.
In all the bragging about the sellout streak, nobody ever said the last tickets were sold at full price. Let's not forget how common it is to allocate a group of tickets to an academic department and consider them 'sold'. I know that has been done frequently in the last decade-plus.
Also, let's remember how common it is for sponsors - Kroger, Hardees, etc. - to 'purchase tickets' in lieu of paying certain advertising dollars. Sponsor X has an agreement for $100K in advertising, and as part of that agrees to accept up to, let's say, 100 tickets the week of any home game. They then turn around and donate those to civic groups, etc. to write off themselves. On paper, the tickets are 'sold', the sponsor makes a charitable donation, and the advertising agreement is fulfilled.
There are multiple ways to achieve a 'sold out' game that don't actually involve the regular fan base ordering tickets up to the last minute, and full ticket price cash going into the till. Sure, we had a 93 game streak or whatever it was, but that was pointless bragging rights when you could sit in Lane and see empty corners for several home games. It's quite similar to bragging about going to a bowl game when your regular season ends at 6-6. Yes, technically you 'achieved' that bowl game or that sell out, but peel back one single layer of context and it looks pretty shallow.
Do you think every seat is always filled at Stadiums that claim sell out steaks? But guess what telling a recruit we have _______ years of straight sell outs, is a nice little feather in the cap. I respect those people for putting money up to keep the streak alive.
We sell turkey legs at our stadium.
I don't think I've seen steaks for sale.
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Apparently this new Apple typing update does not like what I type like "streak" and "touche "
yea the sugar bowl was great at showing that
The Superdome has a listed football seating capacity of 76,468
Official attendance was listed at 64,512
Sugar Bowl, Tech was allotted 17,500 tickets, and sold just 9,877.
In 2011, Tech sold 7,000 of its allotted 17,500 tickets to the Orange Bowl.
In regards to donors buying up tickets this may help
NCAA bylaw 20.9.7.3 requires all schools to sell at least 15,000 seats per game. But for attendance it states -
Each school decides if it wants to use actual attendance or paid attendance to determine if it met the minimum. Schools are also allowed to count purchases of large blocks of tickets, as long as they are sold for at least one-third their face value.
I guess it's a good thing spring game attendance doesn't fall under this rule, UVA would be experiencing some major sanctions.
Incorrect. Every Single Thursday night game has sold out since the 2000 season.
http://www.hokiesports.com/football/schedule/2000
13 sell outs on Thursdays since 2000.
AMEN!
Sellouts and Capactity Crowd are two different things. Hopefully we have a sellout and a capacity crowd on hand to watch the Da U get Da U Stomped!
Let's start with the sellout, that is a nice byline for recruits and donors to read. Then work on everyone who bought tickets being at the game.
I think the point is that if you want this game to "sell out" then someone needs to put the pressure on the same donors who bought up all the tickets to artificially generate the "sell out" in the past for Thursday games.
Well, I have my season tickets and will be there, despite having a work meeting the next morning at 7:30 am. Not going to be a lot of sleep that night.
Now that is dedication!! Very nice!
My advice is to just keep drinking. Nail the meeting with a drunken smile on your face.
Actually, that's terrible advice. Don't take advice from a guy with a name like AssPocketFullOWhiskey. What the hell were you thinking?
Although he may/will have to go to the meeting as a mute seeing how he will not have a voice for 48 hours afterward.
Perfect, blame the not talking (covering for slurred speech) on yelling at the game. As long as he can walk straight and cover the smell, he's golden.
As long as he can cover the smell, he can coach Miami?
Blew my going-to-VT-games money on the OSU game this year. AND IT WAS TOTALLY WORTH IT. If I lived closer than a 6 hr drive I would love to head back for the Thurs night game. I need some Hokies with a camper to avoid those hotel charges.
I'll be there, with my friends!
Most of the allotment is probably Miami fans that returned tickets after their loss this weekend.
I'm moving to Goldsboro on Monday... is Thursday night a long shot if I leave the wife at home?
Driving up from Florida to see my first game at Lane. Yes the 10 hour trip will be sooo worth it! Leaving Wednesday am coming back Sunday!!!
Excited for a big tailgate and a huge VT win in front of a lot of recruits!
Looks like 1100 available on stubhub
Your first game? Congratulations! You picked a good one for your first, too.
My first game was Miami 2003. Lets hope it is as memorable as that one!
Taking Thursday and Friday off from work AND bringing in three non-Hokies for their first Thursday night experience. My job here is done.
You are doing it right sir!
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING. ARE WE THE SAME PERSON?
Do you live in Roanoke!?
nope. i guess we're not the same person.
Doing the same, except I've only recruited one first timer - so far.
I'm coming up for that game. I CAN'T WAIT.
Bringing a full flask into my 4 consecutive classes starting at 8am so that I'll be properly prepared for the brutality. Much excite.
I think one of the things affecting people's choice to go is that all of the hotels around Blacksburg now require 2-day minimums for football weekends at an inflated rate. The rates were bad enough, but the 2-day minimum is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
That is true... I'm staying a little ways out of Blacksburg.. and for a lot cheaper!
That's how you do it. For those of us from major metro areas, a 30-40min drive from Roanoke isn't a big deal when it means saving $300
Of course it's an inflated rate. That's how the hospitality business works. On sell out nights, you get as much as the market will bear. On non sellout nights, you take as little as you can that covers your costs and doesn't establish too low of a precedent.
Except what he's saying is that you have to pay for the inflated rate two nights in a row, even though you only want one night. Artificially driving up the demand on non sellout nights by forcing people to stay the extra night.
Correct, that's what I'm saying, that second night is a killer if you want to stay within the Christiansburg/Blacksburg area. If i'm going to stay two nights, I want to do it where Blacksburg is accessible easily, I don't want to have to haul back and forth from Dublin or Salem or Roanoke.
Yep, we pretty much could have spent a week at the beach for what we dropped on the Bill & Mary weekend. But it was so totally worth it. The beach will always be there, but Bucky, Marshawn, Shai, Brewer, Isaiah, and Cam all making their Hokie debuts -- that was once in a lifetime. Oh, and we got to sit near Marshawn's family and they were soooo excited to watch him play!
Unfortunately can't make it. Closing on our first home in the early afternoon. Planning to have the tv set up in-house by kickoff.
Make sure you call your cable provider and get them to have to turned on and boxes waiting for you or you might have a bad time.
I'm coming and bringing my 8yr old for his first Thursday night game! He has been to all home games past 3yrs excluding Thur night contests.....we are both jacked!
There are now 7 fewer available, thank you very much.
We've been planning on this being our annual visit to Virginia for a game. I've been looking at stubhub and just not happy with the choices (and prices). So, this hit the spot. 7 seats together in South EZ (505), row R. To be specific, here's the view from the seats....
http://www.rateyourseats.com/showratings/sections.php?venue_id=lane-stad...
Go Hokies!!!
I did my part and purchased my two tickets along with airline and brew-do tickets, my vacation budget is tapped but I need a little Thursday night Lane Stadium in my life.
For selfish reasons, I am not mad. One of my friends (a non-Hokie) doesn't know if he has enough leave to take off so I haven't bought my 5-6 tix yet. I told him if he doesn't have enough leave, he needs to quit his job.
I'd like to think that 'winning cures all' but the fact attendance is down everywhere means there are other factors at play. Plenty of articles explore the issue but I figure it just comes down to external factors, like home theaters and lack of smartphone bandwidth in stadiums.
Yeah, you know the lack of bandwidth has a pretty decent impact when there's a TV time out and I want to see what's going on in the rest of the ACC.
I also considered one game listening to the play by play on the radio but, delay and could not stay connected.
My Dad also likes to watch the game from his house in FL and text me throughout the game. I get a stack of texts not long after leaving the stadium.
Michigan State Satruday night, #10 hosting #19.
Empty SECTIONS where the students sit.
It was also cold and rainy for that game...and I believe those pics are when it appeared that MSU was going to win handily.
Nevertheless, attendance is an issue almost everywhere these days. IMO, its not going to get better as long as conferences, ADs and the networks continue the downward spiral of becoming NFL-lite and acting like game crowds are merely props for TV.
I'd get two if I could find a place to stay that wasn't a ripoff. Up until this year, since graduating in '97, I've had either a friend that still lived in the 'Burg, or a family member of some sort that was a student each year. Always had a free place to crash, but no more. :-(. I just can't bring myself to pay the ripoff rates the hotels are charging.
A couple things to check on, if you haven't already. If you were driving up, check out hotels in the Wytheville area. It's normally far enough away that the football crowd doesn't affect their pricing. If you're flying in, a lot of the airport hotels aren't really affected by the football crowd either.
Other options are checking around on Airbnb. Several places to stay, some of which people will increase the price because football, but there are a few gems. At the beginning of the year, I had to stay overnight because of a conference and only paid 60 bucks, versus 110+ most other places.
Wytheville is a good choice. Also Hillsville and Fancy Gap have several perpetually empty motels just a short ride on 100 away.
Just found out one of my buddies coming to the game bought a parking pass for Lot 2. I'm so stoked, we usually do Price's Fork and the walk can be 30-45 minutes. Now more time for friends, booze, deer meat, tailgate scenery, and this giant Jenga game a friend built for us.
I shall be in attendance...promised my cousin (who is a freshman) that I would make a trip at least once this year so might as well get me some VT vs Miami on Thursday Night.
Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner!
Okay, so I'm kind of lazy and didn't do a whole lot of research but (with the exception of last year) in my memory we have had 2 Thursday night games a year for the last 5+ years (one away, one home) and usually they are back to back. Are there any other teams that even have two Thursday night games in a season??? The brief amount of research that I DID do brought up 0 results
Well, for one thing we didn't play any Thursday night games last year.
But yeah, in general our AD and Coach have been open to playing on Thursday night. Up until the NFL started playing so many Thursday games early in the season, Thursday night was kind of the MNF of college ball. National broadcast, no other football game to watch. Great way to build the VT brand.
Usually they are back to back to avoid having both bye weeks used up by Thursday games (and to avoid short weeks)
GT was on thursday night last year.
Nobody else in the nation has been as eager to embrace Thursday night games as we were in the past. Both Weaver & Beamer decided it was a good idea early in our ACC membership to 'volunteer' for double Thursday games. Frank liked the exposure for recruiting and the 1.5 week breaks it provided without creating a full two week break with a bye week. Weaver liked the exposure and the fact that we 'volunteered' for what was viewed at that time as an inconvenience more than an opportunity.
That's how we got into the habit of two Thursday night games a season.
UL played two Thursday night and two Friday night games last year.