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I would call this a good problem to have, looking forward too see which one of the young guys seizes the reins and gives us a few years of consistency behind center

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

Totally agree that this is a good problem to have. Need further proof? All you have to do is look at the Buckeyes.

Braxton Miller goes down in the offseason, JT Barrett takes the reins. While Barrett had a rough go of it out of the gate, he turned into a Heisman-caliber player for them by the end of this season. Unfortunately, Barrett breaks his ankle and everyone writes off OSU, but Cardale Jones steps in and takes them to the National Championship.

Top-tier teams have depth at every position and especially at QB. It looks like VT is taking small steps to recruiting like the elite programs, after years of the fans clamoring for it.

Same deal with our running backs this past season

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JC Coleman for Heisman!

Stroman!

'behind center'

is that what we're calling it now? ya'know..since we don't really truly line up with the qb 'under center' anymore?

it's subtle but I like it.

leg

Onward and upward

Leg for being the first to catch that

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

soo..was it on purpose then?

Onward and upward

Anyone looking for Lefty's impact on the program should start here. We have never been known as a place where high caliber QB talent comes to wade in the talent pool. The man is getting the job done.

Stiney was a great recruiter as well, just saying

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

sure he was. I don't disagree, but he never brought in talent at QB like this under his system. Important to make that distinction when you're just saying things

And we were at a disadvantage recruiting QBs in the Stiney era because our QB coach wasn't our OC. That's a bit of a rarity in college football, and I have no doubt other programs tried to use that against us in recruiting. Now QB recruits know their position coach is calling the shots.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Weren't Marcus Vick, Sean Glennon, Ike Whitaker, Tyrod Taylor, and Bucky Hodges all more highly rated than any of Loeffler's recruits so far? Granted things got so shaky that we had no choice but to turn to Logan Thomas after Tyrod and it was a potentially disastrous situation, but Mark Leal and Ricardo Young were actually rated similarly to Andrew Ford (who many are calling to start already) and Bucky Hodges was a more highly rated QB recruit than any of Loeffler's so far.

I certainly agree Loeffler brought a much needed change in mindset on QB recruiting in that we don't have all our eggs in one basket and a couple misses shouldn't devastate the team like it could have/did do in the past. I'm optimistic about the program's future because of this approach, but I think the individual level of talent of these recruits compared to those in the past might be getting over exaggerated.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

MV5 and Glennon were both Rogers recruits, right? I think Ike was a three star but don't quote me on that. Tyrod was Newsome's one shining moment and Bucky was tabbed as a plug and play replacement for the Third and Logan offense.

I think the point is, our QB recruiting was disjointed and a bit of a mess, and it caught up to us. Now we have the QB coach recruiting hand picked targets who he then designs the offense around as OC. It's a better system and has in two years reversed the cluster we had found ourselves in.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

precisely. we have never had this kind of talent at one time, nor have we had this level of talent commit in consecutive recruiting cycles. I, like most, have questions about Lefty's strategies sometimes but you cannot deny that he has immediately reversed our attraction level for high quality QB recruits.

he whiffed on all of his high target QBs last year, but at least he did get a few to visit. Same thing this year but luckily he stuck with Lawson and made things happen.

Last year his priority targets were cornwell, park and Rudolph. This year think it was torrian Gibson and the kid that went from psu to nd.

uh no. He didn't exactly whiff as you say. first off, exactly zero of those recruits you mentioned would have given the Hokies a second thought let alone real consideration. secondly, you're talking about the #1 QB recruit in the nation and top ten in Park and Rudolph. All who at least stated we were in it towards the end of their recruitment. Same for Gibson, rated no 11 and Wimbush rated no 2. Then he pulled in A Ford and Durkin, who never stepped foot in Blacksburg. Followed by Brewer.

And despite losing those top recruits we are still landing high caliber talent at QB. Why? because of who our OC is. You seem quick to know his so-called "whiffs" and give no credit to the job he is doing in revolutionizing are QB recruiting. Give the man his due on this at least.

Pretty sure I gave him credit for at least getting them to visit, which probably would not have happened in the past. He did whiff on his top targets. A Ford had visited Blacksburg prior to committing so not sure where that is coming from. Again my main credit to him is bringing in a large amount of QBs which has not been done for some time. I don't think any of them are elite or as good as you are trying to hype them up to be. Lawson may be the first one that has a chance to contribute, but IMO a RS year would be great for him.

Revolutionizing the QB position? Come on man...

I don't like the "whiff" argument either. How many offers did guys like Park and Cornwell have? Most of the FBS schools "whiffed" on them. I consider a "whiff" a guy like Da'Shawn Hand, who we should have recruited easily - someone we wanted and spent considerable time and effort into recruiting. Grabbing #1 QBs is a pipe dream for just about every program.

"Exit light..."

We were considered a heavy lean for park, were we not? Up until UGA offered.

Cornwell was the #4 qb, park was the #5, and Rudolph was in the mid teens. Not sure where this #1 qb thing is coming from. They were all highly regarded though that is for sure.

Cornwell was #1 in the state of OK, that's what I was thinking of. Regardless, all of those guys were elite talent.

This "heavy lean" stuff is all prognosticators trying to sound like they know something. We were in the mix for Park early, but the dominoes fell in the SEC. Everyone was just waiting on who Saban gave the "committable offer" to. Cornwell got it, Park had UGA as a second choice if he didn't get Bama, and things went from there. We had an outside chance, at best, of landing any of these guys.

"Exit light..."

There were rumblings that Rudolph was going to commit to us but we told him to hold off thinking we'd get one of the other two, any truth to that that you know of?

That's my point regarding the elite talent. SL is getting us above average talent but Lawson may be the first one that you could even make the argument as having elite potential. When someone is claiming SL is revolutionizing the qb position at VT i'd expect him to have landed an elite guy.

I don't follow or put stock in rumors, so no, I have no recollection of any of that, nor do I put any credence in it.

The fact that we're recruiting QBs to play QB, given our history of general athletes, fast guys, and other guys that "played" QB in HS, is in some ways "revolutionary." As is our whole recruiting philosophy. The last two years have been a breath of fresh air. We're targeting guys for their natural positions rather than the old way that was "put fast guys out there and make something happen." All our assistants are doing a good, if not great, job recruiting and we're going to have the highest ranked class we've had in recent memory (ever?).

To get elite talent, we have to succeed with above-average talent. As I said in response to another thread comment about wanting national titles, this whole thing is a process. Loeffler is clearly bringing in guys with different skill sets and strong abilities. If he's as smart as he's billed to be, he can design a successful offense around whatever skills his guys have. To an extent, he did exactly that with LT3 in 2013. Once word gets out (and proof is on video) that Loeffler is putting "above-average" guys in positions to showcase their skills and win, the elite guys will take a greater interest. It's all a process.

"Exit light..."

Agree about the process of getting back to good before we can expect to land elite guys, but we also need to show development and get guys to the league to land those elite guys as well. I'm not sold on SL by any means in terms of showcasing their skills though.

As for the best recruiting class the best one we've had since the national championship was probably '05 but almost none of those highly rated kids ever made it to campus. This year is slightly above average for us and if settle makes it this year I would say it's one of the better classes even considering the misses at DE.

This is not a slightly above average class for VT in my opinion. Whether Settle makes it is out of VT's control. The bottom line is, we've signed top tier talent in most positions on the field and if we did that every year, well....who knows.

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SL came in as a run-first, TE-loving coach with a history of coaching sucessful QBs. The emergence of Bucky is right in line with showcasing players skills.

Now lets hope that the coaches can fix the offensive line and running game with this increase in talent we've had in the last few years.

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Hand and Sweat were 'whiffs'. Those were guys who we were recruiting to come to play for a guy nationally known as one of the top defensive minds in the game, and were well known to the recruits because they went to high school in our own backyard. These guys were ours to miss, and we missed em both. Bigtime whiffs.

All those QBs weren't whiffs, they were fantasy land pipe dreams, especially last year. Virginia Tech isn't exactly known as a haven for QBs, and with our reputation as having a truly anemic offense, that puts way too much pressure on the QB to make something out of nothing because of how poor the Offensive Line plays, the realistic possibilities of landing a top level QB talent were extraordinarily slim. The fact we were even listed as potential finalists for any of them shows the good work Loeffler did in recruiting, and the fact that we actually landed Ford, Durkin, and Brewer was as good as it could have possibly been given the circumstances. Between this year and next, we already have 2 4* guys primed to come in. I believe we're also in the mix for some 2016 5* QB talent, which very well could go our way depending on how the OL situation comes about this upcoming year and the next. We had to start somewhere, and the foundation that was laid was a pretty good one all things considered.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

We have three QB's in the NFL. how many teams can say that?

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NC State trumps us on that one. They have 3 starting QBs in the NFL right now

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Michigan State also has Drew Stanton, Brian Hoyer, and Kirk Cousins.

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Who is the third? I know Glennon & Rivers, but can't think of anyone else.

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"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Meh, he was drafted out of Wisconsin, though technically he spent most of his time at NC State. Not worth the argument, though.

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Lets round that up to 5 other FBS team (which i think is too high) that would place Tech in top teams in putting QB's into the NFL. Yet teams like USC, Bama, ND and FSU which have struggled to either get QB's into the NFL or once they are there they bomb have reputations as destination teams for top QB's.

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Our quarterbacks in the NFL are an athletic freak of nature that took the football world by storm in 1999 when most of these recruits were 4, an undersized 5-star that was a four year starter and will be a career backup, and a project drafted on his athletic potential.

We struggle to get traditional quarterbacks because the last one we put under center got absolutely mauled (glennon). Lefflor is making it possible to recruit these elite prospects because we are showing progress in developing a legitimate offensive system as opposed to trotting athletes out and seeing what works.

I believe I said he is revolutionizing our QB recruiting. We are in consideration for top talent every cycle he is here and he is adding more quality QBs than ever before. Our depth at QB has not been like this in a very long time, if ever. If that isn't revolutionizing our recruiting for this position then I don't know what is. Also if you think I am wrong and VT has been doing this all along and somehow I am missing it, then prove me wrong.

I get hung up on the fact that you are using the word revolutionize, and that in terms if Virginia Tech over the last decade plus, you are right. But there's honestly nothing revolutionary about what Lefty is doing. He's doing it the way it's supposed to be done: a QB coach/OC selling his position coaching and offensive scheme to his targeted recruits. It's the way it worked under Rickey Bustle, though admittedly the caliber of our program wasn't high enough for Bustle to attract better talent until after the 95 Sugar Bowl. But the fact that you say Lefty is revolutionizing how we recruit QBs, and the fact that you're right, is an indictment of how much of a mess QB recruiting had become under Lefty's predecessor.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Exactly he's doing his job he's not doing anything revolutionary. We were just used to Mike O'cain who didn't recruit the position at all and Stiney for whatever reason was allowing the position to not be recruited. If he lands an elite recruit from out of state i'd say he's revolutionizing how VT recruits QBs, until then props to him for at least stocking the cupboard.

If he lands an elite recruit from out of state i'd say he's revolutionizing how VT recruits QBs

Why would out of state matter? Regardless, given his progress over two seasons, I'd feel very safe wagering that Lefty would bring in a 5 star QB (whether in-state or out of state, who cares?) Within five years, assuming he's here that long

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

because we have landed elite qbs from in state previously? I'd be fine with in state or out of state, but again to revolutionize something wouldn't be to do something we've done in the past with MV, TT, etc.

Please explain how landing Mike Vick in the late 90's and Tyrod in late 2000s is in anyway similar to the depth of 4 star and 3 star QBs we have committing to us now in these past 2 years? you seem to be selectively reading my comment whilst getting stuck on one term without providing any evidence to the contrary to prove your point.

I may have missed all these QBs that came and went every year this past decade. I mean I do live in China and watch and read Hokie Football via the internet so it could have happened, but I am pretty sure that in reality it never happened.

Pretty sure I never said they had anything to do with each other. You think SL is revolutionizing the approach to recruiting qbs to VT and I don't. it's an opinion. I've given him credit for the sheer # of QBs he's brought into the program, but that was a necessity because of how poorly the position had been recruited #s wise under MOC/BS regime.

We have taken 2 QBs in a year before in the last 5 years it was ricardo young and mark leal. Both were mid 3 star guys which isn't that far off from durkin/ford but it didn't take long for young to transfer out. Honestly if Lawson comes in and passes either I think we'll see one if not both of those guys transfer as well.

Where are all these 4 star qbs you are claiming SL is landing? If you get selective with which recruiting service, you could say that but ford as far as I recall was only a 4 star on 247 and he had the lowest rating of a 4 star and he was a low to mid 3 star on rivals. Durkin was a high 3 on rivals and was the lowest 4 on 247 as well. Lawson is the first consensus 4 star he's landed and he's a low 4 star as well.

MV7 wasn't an elite QB recruit. I think he was 3 star. Nobody knew what they were getting with him.

We've landed two 5 star QB recruits that I'm aware of: MV5 and TT. MV5 was recruited by Kevin Rogers, who was himself considered an elite QB coach who was expected to revolutionize VT's offense before he (understandably) bolted for the NFL with his buddy Brad Childress.

TT was recruited by Curt Newsome, a big reason Newsome was brought into the program in the first place.

So an OC recruiting 5 star talent at QB would be something new for us, regardless of zip code.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Ronald curry was the elite one in va but vick was right behind him. I don't think there were really ratings out there at the time but everything I've read would have equated to him being a 4 star type of guy. I don't really care who is the one recruiting the QB I just want to land them. The new strategy of position coaches being more involved with their positional recruits isn't something SL pushed it was our recruiting coordinator and former OC. I do think that having the OC as the QB coach obviously is a bonus and a selling point going forward though.

The Ronald Curry hype machine was operating at 110% capacity during the mid to late 90's. The Hampton Crabbers were a dynasty and dominated media coverage in the eastern "804-soon to be 757(1996)". Vick occasionally made headlines, but was very much overshadowed by Curry.

Does pizza count as pie?!

part of the curry hype was because he was rated as the #1 HS football recruit and basketball recruit if i'm remembering correctly. Even though i'd say he didn't live up to the hype at UNC I think he definitely displayed his athleticism in the NFL.

Ronald Curry was a GREAT football player that was a good enough athlete to play basketball. I saw Curry play in high school and he could make all of the throws that a great quarterback makes. Curry's problem was that he didn't concentrate on one sport in college.

sadly doing his job is revolutionizing VT's recruiting at that position, which again is what I said. I never said he revolutionized how recruitment for QBs is done.

yeah, these are all salient points. I still would call it revolutionizing our recruiting for QB and as you said the sad fact is it is back to the point of how it should actually happen every year. That being said I do think that Lefty himself attracts attention from recruits and gives VT a bump in the talent level that consider us.

Yeah I think he as an individual is doing it better than the average QB coach/OC recruiter. I think he is really selling his scheme and vision for the position to recruits. The model is not new, but he's installed it successfully at VT in less than two years.

I also have no qualms about you saying he's revolutionizing how we recruit QBs. You're right. It's just sad that you're right. (No offense.)

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

you cannot deny that he has immediately reversed our attraction level for high quality QB recruits.

Our strategy with regards to QB commits in consecutive recruiting cycles has clearly changed, but the point of my post is that I'm actually not so sure about the level of talent that people seem to think has drastically increased. It obviously depends on your definition of "high quality" but we haven't gotten a QB commit under Loeffler who was as highly rated as Ike Whitaker (4*, 3rd ranked Dual-Threat QB) or Sean Glennon (4*, 10th ranked Pro Style QB) FWIW. Lawson is the highest ranked and he's a 4*, 16th ranked Dual-Threat QB.

As stated above, props to Loeffler for at least stocking the cupboard, but more than anything I think it's an indictment of how sad the state of affairs had become under O'Cain.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

You're going back ten years there with Glennon and Whitaker, both of whom were recruited when Kevin Rogers was here. No, Lefty is not pulling down KR-level recruits yet, but with those examples you're ignoring the QB famine we experienced post-Tyrod. All indications are we're rebuilding toward the level of recruit Rogers brought in and undoing the damage of the O'Cainspring years.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

I agree with everything you just said and am not at all disregarding the utter failure of the O'Cainspring era for QB recruiting. Our only disagreement seems to be our definitions of "high quality QB recruits."

Relative to O'Cainspring, we're recruiting QBs like Urban Meyer. Relative to a team with 22 straight bowl games (and one of only 15 teams to play for a National Title in the BCS era), we're maybe approaching average.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

In a world without Scott Loeffler, Bucky Hodges would be getting ready to start his second year at QB and we would have a bumper crop of tight end jokes.

Leonard. Duh.

I wonder if he passes 7' this spring or not until fall?

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

That was last spring

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This is probably going to be a really unpopular opinion, but I think this particular season we would have won more games if Bucky had stuck it out at QB and we hadn't taken Brewer as a transfer. That is not to say I think that's what we should have done, but I think we would have won more games (but we would still be moaning about how we can never win the "big" games).

There are probably hundreds of kids that could play decent enough at QB for the Hokies to win 10 games, but only 10 or so Bucky Hodge type athletes are playing tight end across the entire post-High school football landscape.

Bucky's playing where he needs to play. The qb thing will get worked out.

Leonard. Duh.

Bucky's playing where he needs to play. The qb thing will get worked out.

...Isn't that exactly what he was saying?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Main thing loeffler is doing is actually bringing in QBs which is something O'Cain didn't. Keep in mind the highest QB recruit we've landed since Tyrod was bucky hodges though. I think Lawson has a high ceiling but he's a low 4* type kid it's not like SL is bringing in elite guys.

If I recall correctly, Marcus Davis was a high school QB that pushed for the #2 QB spot before being moved to WR. I think it was essentially a toss up between Davis and JuJu? Obviously Davis had enormous upside and potential on the perimeter... the rest is history...

Does pizza count as pie?!

Still blocked like a QB though...

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

That's generous. I'd compare his blocking more to a ghost man in kickball.

I don't remember him pushing for #2 I thought he got hurt and moved.

I don't remember Marcus Davis pushing anything.

Leonard. Duh.

I laughed out loud at your reply. Nicely done.

I remember Marcus Davis taking off on a non-designed QB scramble in a spring scrimmage and thinking he was the best athlete on the field. Glad he was moved to WR though.

Marcus Davis, who didn't play QB the entire time in HS, was EXCELLENT as a running QB. When he had the whole field in front of him he was very difficult to contain. I used to watch him drop back, hold the ball, slide, hold the ball, hold the ball, then take off. Almost like he always was planning to run, but went through the motions looking for a receiver as if that was necessary - perhaps for appearances - to his teammates and coaches. He really toyed with HS tacklers, and you could see his confidence soar. He was a big guy, but super elusive.
I always wished we could get him in positions to catch the ball and be facing downfield at VT, instead of catching it and trying to turn to run. I was always a huge fan of Davis, having followed him in HS and seen him up close at the VB combine, but I think somewhere along the line he lost his confidence at VT, and just didn't become "the man" like I thought, and perhaps he thought, he would become. Keeping your mind right is a big battle sometimes.
I saw Hodges in HS, too, and I just never saw any inkling of QB possibility there. I think all those clamoring for him at QB were on the LT comparison train because of the physical similarities. Anyone that watched his throwing motion had to have doubts at him at QB, though.
Hodges, thankfully for all, is at the exact place he should be, and early enough to excel for both himself and VT.

A picture is worth a thousand words. A gif is worth a million.

I was trying to find something that verified Davis played receiver his junior year in HS (as my aging brain recalls) when I ran into this article that I feel like sharing. It speaks to the "hard to keep your mind right sometimes" comment I made above. A lot of times, as fans, we judge guys solely by what we see on the field. As I age, as I learn, as I stumble, I try to recognize that there is often a whole lot more to the picture that could help me formulate my opinions.
I copied and pasted this article, to make it easier (I lied, I can post a gif, but I haven't figured out how to link a freakin' article yet). But I believe this is a part of MD that many don't know, and is worth reading:

BLACKSBURG, Va. On Dec. 23, 1989, Lillian Tann received a phone call from Virginia Beachs Department of Human Services.

Do you want a baby? His mom just walked out the hospital and left him.

It wasnt totally unexpected. Tanns house on Beautiful Street, less than two miles from the Atlantic Ocean, had long been a haven for forgotten children. A school bus driver in Virginia Beach for 30 years, Tann and her husband, Wilford, had become foster parents years earlier and taken in a number of children.

So Tann made the 10-minute drive to Virginia Beach General Hospital, not realizing how that decision would resonate almost 23 years later.

Usually I just kept [foster children] three or four months and then their parents would come pick them up, Tann recalled last week. Aint no parents come pick up Marcus, so I kept him. I had him at two days old and he felt like mine. Hes been my baby ever since.

Marcus turned into Virginia Tech redshirt senior Marcus Davis, a tantalizing yet polarizing talent who could become the programs first 1,000-yard receiver this year. Every play he makes, though, is a tribute to the people who raised him in place of the family he hardly knows.

Every time I do something, I thank them just for keeping me. Its a blessing. Things like that usually dont happen. I dont think Id be here without them, Davis said recently. I dont know what my life would have been like if they hadnt did what they did for me.

It is what it is
Now 80 years old, Tann initially couldnt remember the first name of Daviss birth mother last week. Davis doesnt know it, either. He has spoken to her only a few times, mostly over the phone, and neither Tann nor Davis have met his father.

But Tann called back, her memory of Michelle Davis jogged after a conversation with a reporter. Michelle grew up across the way on Beautiful Street, but moved away years before Marcus was born.

Tann knew about their long-ago connection when she picked up Marcus at the hospital. She even took Marcus to see his mother in those first days, because social services told me to since [at that time], he was just in foster care. Every now and then, Michelle Davis would return to her old neighborhood to see her son.

Shed then leave to go wherever. I didnt ask no questions. I didnt want to know, said Tann, who eventually gained full custody of Marcus. When he got school-sized, we didnt see her that much. She didnt have enough sense to keep in close contact with her son, so why should I keep in contact with her?

Outside of the circumstances that brought him to the Tann household, Marcus Davis calls his upbringing a good childhood, with many days spent playing football and basketball with his cousins at Seatack Recreation Center. He became an honor roll student in school, stayed out of trouble and continues to go to church to this day.

Davis joined his first organized football team at age 5, around the same time Tann had to address the situation involving his birth parents. Tann said Davis initially learned of his mother and father from a member of the Virginia Beach Department of Human Services.

Davis says now that it barely fazed him.

I never really looked into it because as a child I didnt know. I was so young, and then as I grew up it didnt really matter, he said. I had what I needed. I had that family I wanted. I was blessed to get a mother and a father. Not by birth, but at the same time, two days old, thats pretty much birth.

I talked to my [birth] mother, but at this stage in my life, I really dont even ..., Davis added, his voice trailing off. It is what it is.

On-field difficulties
When Davis first arrived on Virginia Techs campus in July 2008 after a standout career as a quarterback at Ocean Lakes High, there were no other students around. He initially thought, Man, I cant do this. On the field, he had to adjust to playing wide receiver, a move that seemed to be a natural fit considering his 6-foot-4, 232-pound frame, 4.49-second 40-yard dash and a 40.5-inch vertical jump.

But after redshirting as a freshman, he had to wait his turn behind record-setting wideouts Jarrett Boykin and Danny Coale for three years. Despite showing glimpses of his talent, Davis sometimes chafed at the tough love he received from Virginia Techs coaches.

I was trying to get home whenever I could, Davis said. I could not stand it.

His ascension to a starting role this year hasnt gone as smoothly as he hoped, either. Though Davis leads the Hokies with 38 catches for 754 yards and four touchdowns, he has had several key drops and questioned the leadership on this years team. This week, Davis became a symbol for Virginia Techs worst season in 20 years when a video of his poor blocking was featured on several national Web sites and blogs.

But Davis contends his brush with Internet infamy is just a blip on the radar screen.

Obviously somebody was bored and they felt they could put up a video, but little did they know, they dont know the half of it, Davis said. If thats what they want to do with their free time, then I applaud them. Go ahead and do what you want. But at the end of the day, thats not gonna define me. Thats not who I am.

What is your angle?
Davis says theres little significance to the fact that he still goes by his birth mothers last name. Before college he thought about changing it to Tann, but never got around to it. But his fame on the field in recent years has brought some unfamiliar faces into the picture.

Since Davis went to Virginia Tech, Wilford Tann said Michelle Davis has stopped by his Beautiful Street house three times. Lillian Tann noted the encounters have always been right after Marcus has visited from Blacksburg, and that Michelle hasnt stayed long. Invariably, the short conversations would break down into three categories: Hows Marcus? Wheres Marcus? Give Marcus my phone number.

Marcus Davis has had no contact with her, but those who helped raise him worry about the situation because, despite his up-and-down college career, Daviss physical gifts could make him an NFL draft pick, according to ESPN expert Mel Kiper Jr.

Now it feels like people are starting to come around because of who he is, said Jeri McCants, Daviss godmother, who helped him through the recruiting process. But its like, Where were you guys when his lights were getting cut off up at Blacksburg? He didnt have money to eat because he was sending money back home to Virginia Beach. Not saying theres anything wrong with it or anything, but where were you, this other family, for a lot of years? Half of them knew who he was and now you want to come around and [say], Dont forget your Davis side.

I just tell him: I know who I am. I know my place. But Im gonna still look at people. I would never tell you dont see your mother or your father, but Im gonna still be looking at them from the corner of my eye. What is your angle? What are you trying to get? I would never tell them, No, you cant be a part of his life. But I can understand why hes like, Dont come now when you werent there then.

Davis doesnt pay his birth mothers entreaties much mind. Hes focused on salvaging a season that hasnt gone as planned for Virginia Tech, which enters Saturdays game at Boston College needing two wins simply to make a bowl game for a 20th consecutive season. But when the subject comes up, Wilford Tann likes to tell the story of how Marcus picked us as his parents.

One day, Wilford introduced himself to someone as Marcuss godfather. But Marcus cut him off and quickly corrected Tann: You aint my godfather. Youre my father.

And he said the same thing about his mother. He loves me as much as anybody loves me. I believe he do.

Mark Giannotto covers Virginia and Virginia Tech for The Washington Post.
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Hope757
11/16/2012 3:50 PM EST
I don't know where to start. Marcus have been in my life as a brother for almost 22 years. I love him like he is my real brother. When I read this article it brought tears to my eyes. To read a humble person finally speakout and tell his story. My hat goes off to him for taking that step. Love u Marcus and just know Ur family back in Seatack have your back. Keep up the good work and fight harder for success. God is with you and not going to fail you. You came to far to look back at any negative foolishness.
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RogerRamjet2
11/16/2012 1:39 PM EST
What a beautiful story. We're cheering for you and your great family, Marcus!

A picture is worth a thousand words. A gif is worth a million.

Beamer has an extremely long track record of taking good kids from rough situations or with rough family lives, giving them a chance, and then helping them to thrive and succeed. It's something that doesn't get mentioned nearly enough but it certainly means a lot to the players that benefited. Just another thing for arguably the nicest coach in major college football.

I don't hate the man, I just hate how he played the position. I sincerely hope the best for him in everything he does.

I just looked at FSU QB pool and new recruits, they have something like 4 guys at 4-star level and another 2 committs for 2015 also 4-star. This recruiting of recent QBs will give us solid depth and at least one in every class till 2016. Ideally this is what OCs want even Stiney and O'Cannot said the same thing.

I think Tyrod was a different situation in that I think he really wanted to come to Tech, he's an exception. I don't think he got a lot from the coaches. Logan was good but still a bit of a development project. I also didn't understand the play-calling going from Stiney to O'cannot in Logan's second season because the previous year we did a heck of a job on offense and we were rolling. Well Scott Loeffler is considered a solid OC in the business, he has a lot of connections and knows a lot stuff. I think getting his own guys and getting good coaches will make a difference in the long run. Plus this recruiting class has a lot of promise with 8 4-star gets.

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In Logan's second season, David Wilson bolted for the NFL, Danny Coale and Jarrett Boykin graduated, and most of the offensive line starters were gone as well.

I'm not defending Stinespring and O'Cain, and I would never defend Curt Newsome, but you have to adjust a bit when the well dries up like that.

Leonard. Duh.

Thats where the wasteland of good talent in 2010 and 2011 recruiting-wise really hurt. We lost a bunch of talented seniors and didn't have anyone waiting to replace them.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Exactly.

Leonard. Duh.

Is it too late to have a meme for: O'Cain?? No! O'cannot!

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Jon Fulton (2003) and Peter Rose (2008). What's the story with them? Their names don't ring any bells for me.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

This made me really sad when it happened

Isn't this the plot to 21 Jump Street?

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Ditto. The whole situation was effed up a d tragic. Worst part of all was thinking what would this young man have been like had he benefited from 4-5 years of our coaching staff as positive role models.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Thanks for that. I don't know how that development escaped me.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Fulton went the baseball route after getting drafted by the Marlins. Don't think he ever got above Single A.