December 2019 Fishing Thread

Temperatures are dropping, but the fish are still biting (looking at you 3rdGen) if you look in the right places. I may head to OCMD tomorrow and I am going to Pensacola next week before shutting it down until the new year.

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I am looking for some help for any Panhandle folks out there. I am going to be going with two friends to the Panhandle to chase whiting/sea mullet, and if that is slow they plan to head to St. George Island to find sheepshead. I am the third wheel on the trip, but I want to be prepared.

I have heard that there have been above slot drum ("redfish" yick I hate saying it that way) around Okaloosa and Navarre Piers. I know that a gold flash spoon with a red teaser is money in the Bay when casting to schooling red drum in the summer, however I have never run into winter schools in Florida (hell, I haven't even caught a fish that wasn't in bass in Florida.) Any pointers on A) are there drum around? and B) should I get some spoons, or should I look at something like a 1oz jig head and some BKDs?

Thanks for the help!

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when are you going...I'll be around some FWC law enforcement types tomorrow and can ask

I will be there Dec 11-15.

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I'll ask around...no guarantees but some of the Tally folks may know.

Well, I guess going all that way to catch whiting is like going to Florida to catch bluegill, but leave it to your couple of crazy buddies to do just that. I hope you guys have a blast, blow the bottom line out of a few buffets, and return with their hoped for coolers full of panfish. No value judgement here, really, I mean it...really.

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The damage at the buffets will be historical, and I will merely be the recorder of the events.

They are changing the gameplan daily. I am now taking my heavy surf gear for night drum fishing, a cobia bucktail rod to sight cast at drum if they swim by the whiting hole, sheepshead gear, and sea mullet gear. We are driving 13 hours in an extended cab Prius. I don't know how they are going to pull it off.

But, if there are big red drum to be had, I want the info and I want to chase them.

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I made a call but haven't heard back...will keep checking.

reds possible but big black drum more likely right now

Any luck in OCMD? Little blustery out there, but the sun's out...

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Ended up not going. Tough week in Case De French.

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I'm sorry to hear that. Was looking forward to the story. As for the sheepshead, they've been catching some in the 11-13 lb range somewhere around here. Never caught one, myself.

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Someone should bust out a fly rod and try to break my world record...

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What I want to know is why we're not seeing 3rdGen's big drum? I know he can post pics.
Been reading that bigger stripers are being caught around the Bay. I'm off home/dog duty after this weekend so I hope to get out in the coming week.

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They are getting big fish around Cape Charles, and I have seen reports of big fish way up north of there.

Looks at the weather- small craft advisory on Saturday. (THROWS SOMETHING)

I really should have gone to Ocean City one night this week. Tide was perfect. This weekend, it is at freaking midnight.

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Not sure how OC looks, but the Nanticoke & Choptank off the Bay are WAY down right now.

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For me, money tide on the bridge has been dead low. As the water starts to trickle back, the fish start to bite. And there are a ton of them from the mouth of the bay all the way to Jersey.

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Then it might be bingo right now in OC...

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
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tougher during the day. I like it under the lights

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Mossy Creek Fly Shop Open house tomorrow from noon till 5. Kelly Galloup is going to be there. For those who don't know, he and Blane Chocklett (a Hokie in Roanoke) are two of the premier streamer designers in fly fishing world. I will try to go depending on how this cold feels tomorrow

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Damn. I would have liked to have gone. Surprised someone like Galloup made his way to Harrisonburg. Hope you had a good time.

I did not go. Killer cold. Looked like a good time from the photos I saw

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Writing up this report now because it's blowing 25 out of the Northeast. I headed down to Beaufort on Thanksgiving day. Kayak fished a creek on the way down based on some info I received. I caught 4 keeper trout, a rat red and a striper. Pretty cool environment to fish.

Fished Saturday with my dad in the marsh around Beaufort. Got into a load of spike trout and a couple nice trout. We were catching trout every two casts for an hour and a half.

Headed to Hatteras Saturday night. Great big drum bite on Sunday (40-50 caught). I didn't get a bite other than a dogfish shark. Lots of people there. Monday there weren't many people but about 10 drum were caught. I got my number called and got in a 47" drum to the fork.

Tuesday not much happened. Wednesday caught a inshore slam on the sunrise then nothing more. Thursday I caught a couple small trout. Friday the wind laid out and the water cleared up and I got on the trout after trying a few holes. Biggest was 20", quite a few at 16-18". Caught around 25 overall. Got 2 puppy drum as well one was in the 20-22" range. Best day of trout fishing I've had.

This truck was stuck for 45 minutes. Air your tires down to 20 psi or lower or I will drink beer and laugh while you are stuck

Caught a nice puppy drum, small spec and small flounder this morning.

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Awesome, well done on the toad red from the beach!

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Thanks! It was a beast for sure especially in the current.

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Thanks for the write up and the pics! Looks like an awesome trip, congrats!!

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It was an awesome trip! Thanks, finding fish in different places is always rewarding.

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I can imagine. I got my 45" old drum out of my old Carolina Skiff in the inlet so I had the opportunity to follow her around a bit as needed. From the shore, that's no easy feat with lack of maneuverability. Makes me want to get down there and chuck a mullet head into the surf myself.

Edit: This got me thinking... there's an aptly named inlet at the bottom of Portsmouth Island called Drum Inlet and an old timer Down East told me it gets loaded in late fall with bulls. Easy and safe access to the back side of the inlet via boat, even my Hewes, and one could float the channel bouncing bait on the bottom on the wall there or anchor up in the cover around the corner and take the short walk to the point and huck bait out into the surf. I may have to do this, this week.

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I bet it could be good. Just have to find the right conditions to push the drum into the inlet. It is late year in the year but a few could be around for sure.

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So I'm basically doing nothing and walk down to the lake and throw a small swim bait. Caught a 12" bass LMAO. It was fat though!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

My weekend fishing plans went down the crapper like an Arkansas football hire.

So, here are some deals I found with St. Croix: https://stcroixrods.com/collections/rod-shopper?utm_source=facebook&utm_...

Musky Mojos: $105
Premier Crankbait Rods: $90
Avid Casting Rods (Limited length and actions) $126
Avid X Casting Rods $132
Avid Surf Casting and Spinning $238

Lamiglas has showcased some deals too.

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Also, still looking for any Pensacola pier and bridge information or reports. I have repacked 3 times since apparently it is against the will of the gods for me to do anything fun this weekend.

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Heard from my friend this a.m.

Pompano and whiting on pompano rigs...live shrimp, fresh dead shrimp, and sand fleas (for pompano). Fish beyond the first bar.

This time of year there should also be some schools of black drum (some big fish) with some redfish possibly mixed in. Use fresh chunks of blue crab on a fish finder rig...again, beyond the first bar. Closer you are to a pass the more likely this becomes. If there is a north wind and the surf lays flat, you may very well be able to see them.

From the piers it's the same drill. Add sheepshead to the mix fishing tight to pilings (or rocks near a jetty or groin).

All sounds pretty generic to me but time of year-wise, he said should have a decent shot at some fish...in the trough beyond the first bar.

Good luck! I presume you have some physical therapy lined up for the extended time in a Prius.

Went out of Gwynn's Island to northeast of the Rappahannock today. Bumpy ride, but nice day. Finally found the fleet, a few birds and started to jig. Got two bites quickly on the first drop and then hooked up with something that felt heavy. Fishing in 44 ' of water, I started feeling hopeful at the weight, but got suspicious at the lack of proper movement. Of course, it was a 12" striper hooked dead center under the belly midway between pecs and vent. That was the highlight of the day. Didn't get another bite, nary a nibble, not even a funny feeling. Lots of boats and I talked with one boatload trolling and they said they'd gotten one keeper, but I only saw one other fish caught, maybe 16", also caught by a jigger, the only other one I saw all day.
Weather was perfect, boat ran well, marked almost no fish on the sonar, even when running around amongst a hundred boats. Usual cluster f##k at the boat ramp but I managed to snake between two shitty parkers with my big van and little trailer to score the last parking place at the ramp. I'm sure the guys on either side of me weren't pleased with my parking, but I, at least, was between the lines. There were 3 guys taking 5 spaces at a notoriously crowded ramp. I just don't get that mentality when another 60 seconds of straightening up can make it better for all. They had to do some back and fill to get out of there, I can assure you, but my stuff is old, their's was big and new, so screw 'em 'til they learn to park straight.
Don't know how good the season will be, and I'll admit it isn't easy to get up for a long boat ride to catch a dink, or even several dozens of them, weaving and dodging the fleet. Hopefully, things will improve, but it did me no good to see a fleet of menhaden ships heading for Reedville. That was a bummer.

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I was invited to go today and didn't twice about turning it down. I hate fishing out there amongst all of the asshats.

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I usually find the fleet and stay outside the scrum. Didn't work today.

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Sorry fish, was hoping to hear a different report. Then again, you didn't have the lucky charm, 3rdGen. 馃榿

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A friend of mine went out around R2 and caught 6 fish, 2 keepers around 22" each. He made it sound a little rougher out, though.

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Yeah, I was sure some of the trollers were catching something or they wouldn't have been so ganged up. I don't do the trolling thing. It was definitely rough out there. The 1' seas were anything but and did seem to smooth out some as the day progressed. Couldn't run all out all day, though. Sun was nice and the wind wasn't a problem, and the temps were mild enough for December, but I don't have much patience sometimes.

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Same day, Sunday, a friend of my trout neighbor Paul was out at R2 most of the day and caught zip. My friend in Va Beach says the Elizabeth River is giving up decent catches of trout, pups and stripers, with keepers mixed in (if you'd care to eat anything out of that river...I know I wouldn't). My old client and friend has booked us a charter for next week, so we'll see what the pros have been up to, hopefully.

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I have family on the Elizabeth and I've heard similar reports. I've heard it's been hot all year with decent sized trout.

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My friend in NC just posted on her IG story a "really mean" 550 pound Bluefin, 102 inches long they landed this afternoon at Cape Lookout. Two hour fight.

Click on her story.... https://www.instagram.com/blonde_gypsea/

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Decent day on Briery yesterday. Launched the yak into 44 degree water, with a 20 degree air temp. Had my reels freeze for about a minute until my hand warmers thawed them out.

First bite and fish was at 8:15 on a drop-shot. Temps spike up pretty quick around noon and I caught 5 on warm flats using a Strike King Caffeine Shad, caught a 7th on a creek channel break using a Jackhammer.

Best 5: 19.0", 16.25", 13.75, 13.75, 12.75

Could be better, but any bass caught in December or January is a good bass.

Probably will spend Wednesday going after musky. Hopefully the rain won't be too heavy this week that the rivers won't blow out. It's primetime season for 'ski, now.

Do you use a trailer on the jackhammer?

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ALWAYS

Musky fished today. I had one completely wiff on a glide bait on my first cast and that was it.

My buddy on the other hand hadan awesome day.
He landed a massive 50.5" fish from his yak and caught another one that went 41.0"

Not sure where my next trip will be. Temps are dropping and the fishing is getting harder, but the big ones are eating.

Where are you floating for 'Skis?

The New and James Rivers.

Heading to Tampa area (specifically North Redington Beach) from 12/21-24 and then to Brevard County, FL for Xmas with family. Gonna be able to do some surf fishing. I've got Brevard wired having lived and fished there for 22 years. Will be surf fishing the East Coast for Pompano and Black/Red Drum depending on water temps and current direction. Might get to do some Sebastian Inlet or CFL offshore if weather and friends with boats have time.
But Tampa area in the winter is different deal. I won't have a ton of time, but we're staying right on the beach so I am planning on doing some surf fishing with bait and walking the beach pitching jigs w/ gulp (or equiv), Mirrodine M25 (Color 808 - its deadly in the surf and inshore ICW), and spoons (this is what I did in Brevard in the winter surf).
Do I need to modulate this plan for the Gulf coast? Tampa area Hokies:

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
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In the immortal words of Cecil from Radford upon listening to a bunch of gabbers at a local tackle shop bemoaning the state of fishing in the New River, "Boys", he said, "Y'all ain't gonna catchem settin' home watchin' Bill Dance on the TV".
Truer words was never spoke, regardless of the regional dialect and accent.

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Haha love some good Cecil quotes. I've got lots of fishing to do. Except my offshore trip is going to canceled again due to the front so maybe bass fish a pond around town.

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Lure 10

That's a comfy looking seat! Enjoy!

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took it out for a 15 minute test yesterday a.m.

it is as advertised...a little heavy, doesn't track very well, VERY comfortable, VERY stable

not something you'd buy to paddle a long way

this is to use in the "neighborhood"...what you see in the pic below

Well, aren't you the lucky dog? Looks juicy to me. Nice looking fishing 'yak for a 'yak. Looks like your neighborhood is the place for one.

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we'll find out.

most of that is shallow, intertidal mudflats dotted with small oyster bars; WAY too soft to wade. the furthest part you can see is Moultrie Creek. around the corner to the left is the ICW...about a 300 yard paddle

since we moved here 6 years ago (before they were making many kayaks specific for standing), everyone has told me to learn the immediate area ("why the hell are you driving to Vilano or Palm Valley to launch?"). I have been slow to give up my old haunts but this is one of the main reasons we are here. with the fishing kayak market rapidly expanding, it is becoming easier to find reasonably priced 'yaks like this that will accommodate the bad backs of old folks like me.

Life update: just accepted a position in Charleston. While I hate cities and the over population of SC with the ridiculous lack on infrastructure....and it get over crowded fishing. I'm happy as hell being close to the water again.

Fishing updates..... incoming.

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go you!

My dear departed mother was from Charleston and I still have a bunch of long lost family with at least a dozen cousins there in the city somewhere. I knew a guide down there who specialized in light tackle inshore angling, but one day ended up on a 10 mile saga ending with landing (sorta) a two hundred pound tarpon. Crowded, yes, but you have access to some bodacious fishing down there.
My mom loved growing up in Charleston and had a bunch of stories about being young there. She often told the story of my distinguished grandfather taking the three year old me on a walk downtown. He met some finely dressed ladies (he was ALWAYS finely dressed to the 9s) on a corner and they got to talking. I told grandpa I had to pee, but he was a ladies man and kept confabbing. I whipped out there on the corner and peed on a lamp post in front of God and proper Charlestonians. Can't say I remember the transgression, but my momma told me about it every year of my life until she died, so I guess I'll never forget it, remember it or not. My grandfather was mortified, my mom was pissed off, my dad said it was proof that I was a natural born country boy.

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If you're single, spend more time on King Street than fishing.

When I lived there a decade ago (FML, getting old) the water was crowded then. Can't imagine what it is now but there are lots of tailing reds in the summer time.

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Momma used to sing me a ditty she picked up on the streets of Charleston. It was a "Geechee" call and response about a shoe store named Belalli's, located at the corner of King and Callie (Calhoun). Something about 'dem pongee shoe. Sorry, just got to reminiscing. Got that Old Timey Disease, I guess.

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BOAT UPDATE:

With my Dad in town this weekend, finally got around to looking at the fuel leak in the outboard that nearly left me stranded in the Louisiana Marsh. Turns out it was a pinhole in one of the fuel lines running between who knows what and another who knows what portion of the motor. When I squeezed on the bulb, we could see fuel drip out of it. Replace the hose and fingers crossed, it will operate at normal again.

Not to be outdone by positive news, I neglected to take my ropes out of the front storage earlier this year. They were wet and thought it best to move them inside drier climes for the winter. Pulled the anchor rope out with the anchor and tossed it to the ground, the soft mud that is my parking area/back yard. The fucking one inch diameter solid metal anchor broke in half. Completely snapped. Just from me tossing it from 4 feet up to the soggy yard. Unbelieveable. Now I gotta order a new anchor.

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Don't let that anchor drag you down. Just focus on having a hose that works.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

And the little drummer boy says Bada-Boom.

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Fishing Report from the Florida Panhandle

This trip was all about fellowship and learning. The fellowship was great, but there were some tough lessons and I don't know if I can justify making that trip again.

We left NoVA around 3pm on Wednesday, December 11 and arrived at Okaloosa Island Pier at 10:00 AM on the 12th. We had significant NE wind. It was cold, especially by Florida standards. Despite the long drive, we went directly to fish.

We found the whiting (sea mullet) cooperative, using carolina rigs and pieces of fresh shrimp. We totaled around 60 before the bite died. I also went to the end to throw a gotcha plug and a sibiki. I didn't have any luck with the gotcha, but I did manage to jig up some cigar minnows.

That evening, we got intel that a solid bonito bite had been happening in the morning on Navarre Pier. We decided to make the long (30 miles ish) drive to check it out. Upon arrival, we ran into Captain Arch Bracher. Arch is the Captain of the Pelican at Oregon Inlet and is one of the best red drum fishermen I know. He was also there for the bonito, but the bite didn't happen. Instead, I caught a bunch of Spanish (two kept, most were very small) and bluefish on a white gotcha. My buddy Jiro got a keeper flounder.

Arch told us that redfish had been running the inner bar, so we went down to investigate. We found a giant pod of huge cigar minnows. We sibiki-Ed up bait for livies and cut bait and then ran live baits under the pier while sight fishing the bar with soft plastics. Peter got an over-slot (28 inches) on a live cigar minnows under the pier, but nothing else. We checked out Bob Sikes bridge to look for sheepshead, but just found pinfish and cold fog and wind.

Saturday we got better weather, so we went back to Okaloosa to find whiting. No dice. We didn't see a whiting caught all day, and none today. Instead, I got six chances to throw plastics at reds (one big yearling/over slot, others in the upper 20s) and none would eat. Hardtails made up the catch and I got one blue.

We tried again this morning before driving back. Great conditions, but the whiting again were non-existent. Jiro was the hot hand. Using live ghost shrimp for sheepshead, he caught four under slot puppy drum. I got one short Spanish and a bunch of hard tails. We are in the car now, just NE of Montgomery AL. It estimates we will get home at 4:00AM, and I have a 5:00PM flight to Chicago. Yuck.

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Wish I had the energy, but it is a long way to go for some roundheads. Still and all, every fishing trip you take teaches you something, good, bad or indifferent. All part of life's rich tapestry, to quote my dear old daddy.

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Sucks you didn't have more success. As my friend says, "you don't know if you don't go."

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Thanks for the report French! Definitely an adventure

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Long trip man!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Fished ski hard on Saturday. Two of us each moved a fish with lazy follows. Battling the wind was the biggest issue, that and we fished a stretch of river that's a bit harder to fish to avoid any other anglers who might be fishing in the local musky tournament.

Hobie historically announces the location of the Worlds this week. Hopefully it's where we all want it to be.

Back in the day when there weren't so many muskies in the New, we considered a day with a follow up or two to be a success. Best day I had guiding was 11 follows with maybe 7 bites with 4 landed, none of bragging size. One day near Radford with my musky buddy Cecil, we got up an even dozen, but didn't have one bite. We are pretty sure we saw at least a couple or three of the same fish twice, but several of them were definitely big fish.
I haven't fished for them since 2012, so I don't know the population now, but it was interesting to watch the numbers of muskies encountered rise so dramatically as the stocking and some natural recruitment seemed to mesh and produce possibly historic numbers of them, at least in the parts of the New I frequented.

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Recruitment = muskys doing the giggity.

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(Sorry, I have been awake since 5AM yesterday and I have to fly to Chicago in a few hours.)

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A lot of people who first get into musky fishing come to a rude awakening that it's generally not action packed like bass fishing (that and their equipment is lacking to successfully land a giant without causing harm to themselves or the fish). Most ski are caught in bite windows determined either by a dam release or during sol-luner majors and minors.

Fish hard for 7 hours with nothing, then suddenly they are coming from everywhere, back to being scarce.

It's rare that I dont move at least one fish when I'm targeting them though. Hard to get them landed from out of a yak even when they do eat, their mouths are so hard that getting hooks in while standing in a boat that only weights 100 pounds is challenging.

Yep, I've been with my buddy who lives near the New River and exclusively targets muskies. It's definitely a grind and I haven't gotten one in the 4 trips I've been. It is nice to go with someone that knows what they are doing especially for musky since a lot of second guessing can occur with no action.

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While a lot of musky fishing is almost generic as to lies and baits, local knowledge is the key to more success. After so many years of fishing the New, I could predict likely musky presence in a number of places on most of my runs, and the same spots held fish year after year, not unlike the best smallmouth holes. Knowing where they are and getting them to participate, however, much different things. Putting in the time on the river with decent equipment and a decent array of baits for the season is the key to routine success. While my clients were pleased, for the most part, to encounter a musky or two on our trips by chance, few really had the perseverance or patience to pursue them. I kept a musky rod in the boat, usually, but I ended up being the one to throw it, if it got thrown at all. Therefore, most of the muskies caught from my raft were just accidents. The big fish eventually broke off, and the biggest we ended up landing on 8 or 10 lb test mono went around 15 pounds, but it wasn't unusual for us to have a musky bite us off, especially in the spring when the water was high and all of the fish were in the eddies. Muskies do love jig and pig, and even big ones will eat tubes in eddy water. The most fun we would have in the summer was when a musky would grab a redeye or smallmouth off the hook, usually fighting for a good bit before either spitting the bait or getting spooked by the boat, but even then, tossing the fish back in the general direction of the fish sometimes got them to bite and fight again. My buddy Cecil got a good one on a fly rod on the Arsenal float when it ate a redeye he'd caught on a popping bug and got the bug stuck in its snout. They had to chase it down and nearly wrassle it to land it, but those are fun muskies to deal with. Ahhh, the good ole days.

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Agree with you on the bite windows. Have fished all day for them with nothing and then suddenly 3-4 follows in just a few minutes.

Have always been told they bite best on a full moon. I'm no expert but do enjoy tying flies for them and my flies have caught several by various anglers over the past several years.

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Also low pressure systems just before the big clear out and blow.

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You are right fish. Loving this musky talk!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

I'd say that goes for most fish

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Have to agree with you there, but I did notice it in particular with the muskies on the New over the years.

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Looking pick the collective brains of the group here. I'm getting married mid-August 2020, and am thinking about a fishing trip for a bachelor party. I'm in Charlotte, and the group is coming from a bit of everywhere. Would love to go to a spot that has a little bit of night life and is a great spot to charter a fishing trip. I've done a few in-shore and just off shore trips out of Charleston and Savannah in the last couple years. Would love to do some legit sport fishing with a chance to land a Tuna. Thoughts or suggestions? Would late June or early July be a reasonable time for such a trip and where do y'all suggest?

If your charter would be about everyone catching bruisers and you don't care about eating, I'd recommend chasing amberjack. I don't know the charter world around Wilmington but that whole area has great AJ fishing. If Morehead City is more your speed, Brian Harrington on the Run Off would be the guy I'd talk to. If you are looking to go to the OBX, you will chase tuna or mahi that time of year.

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Tuna might be scarce in late June/July. Mahi and billfish will be more prevalent. Captain Rick Croson and Captain Mike Jackson do offshore/gulf stream charters out of Wilmington, NC. Wilmington might fit the bill of what you are looking for. https://livingwatersguidenc.com/summer-season/

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Well, in the immortal words of Cecil, the Radford Sage, "We done got blowed out" for our chartered trip on Thursday. 30 mph gusts and 3-4' waves, not to mention a sudden and dramatic drop in temps didn't have me exactly excited, but the captain felt the same way. We are re-booked for Monday and hoping for a better day. Temps should be 15+ degrees warmer and hopefully the seas will restrain themselves long enough for us to have some fun on the water. The captain also said he wasn't eeling this year because of the slot limit on stripers, so hopefully others will feel the same way and we'll let those big gals go less disturbed to help with recruitment. Report to come, hopefully a good one. I'm new to this particular charter as my buddy made this decision, but hoping to learn something from someone who's out there every year.

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Folks around here will say, "the Ocean (Bay, River, etc.) is closed". Hope you tear 'em up next week.

For me yesterday was the day to be out...70+ and glassy smooth. Of course I had a meeting in Vero Beach and spent most of the day on I-95. Weather sucks thru at least Friday but fish should be biting.

Yep, which was my offshore trips need to start getting scheduled for mondays haha. Second time in a row, we were on the edge of the front and was perfect on monday.

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We would have still gone on my skiff.

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I have no doubt. We could at least have maybe fished up the river somewhere, but since I ain't the pocketbook in this particular endeavor...

Edit: Is your skiff running yet?

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I'm only joking, we would have stayed where it is warm... inside. If I go fishing, it is going to be in NC where the big trout are right now.

Not yet, but soon hopefully.

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Oh, I knew that. I could see us making a scene at the Hole in the Wall restaurant there on Gwynn's Island and me having to call an uber (ha!, it's bumfuck nowhere around here) and bemoaning the sorry state of the weather. You'd like my buddy, too. He's a lot of fun and ready to do some eatin' and a-drinkin' on a chilly day . They have a wood stove at the Hole, also, so we'd have been warm. I would have enjoyed that, and you couldn't have gotten us out on your skiff on a day like Thursday if you were the one paying us. Anyway, Merry Christmas, flyguy, and I hope to see you next summer at the latest. Do keep me in mind if you get a yen to hit the warm waterdischargr thing.

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I've heard about that place!

As soon as I get this boat fixed will let you know. Hopefully we can get out to the discharge. I've heard of some big fish being caught in the Elizabeth River too but I have no interest in heading down there

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Yep on the E. They've been into stripers, reds and trout all fall and from what my Va Beach Hokie buddy says, it's still on. The few years I fished it before they shut down the hot ditch, we routinely got into slot sized reds and while we caught several trout, never caught any of the really big mommas that routinely wintered in the area. We did, however, see the aftermath of the brutal cold a few years ago when dozens of trophy sized trout died and were lying on the banks of the "pond" area. The eagles were having a field day, we saw at least a dozen feeding when we came into the pond, and the dead trout were the biggest I've ever seen.

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I was looking at fishing there but is different than most areas I've fished. I've heard stories of the hot ditch.

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It's just a river, but it's also a noisy one near the bridges, and it is a bit bizarre to fish in such a surreal maritime industrial setting. We only fished a limited area from the Hot Ditch upstream to the Pond, but there were several areas where we got into fish almost every time we were out. There was usually at least one kayaker out there, too, so it is definitely being done. I've not been back since the first year the Ditch was off line, so I'm not current, but even with the surroundings and knowing you're in some strange stuff in that water, it can be pretty productive and is a lot closer that NC.

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Yeah just the deep water is a little different than what I've done on other rivers. We will see what I do this weekend. Lynnhaven inlet looks a lot more like what I'm comfortable identifying good spots.

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Right. We trolled with light jigs for the stripers, and fished channel edges on the inside of bends for reds. We really didn't fish for trout after the Dominion plant shut down. My best red bait there was a LuckyCraft Pointer. We got them in 6-12' or so and the suspending jerkbait was deadly once I found them. They were schooled up loosely, and changed position constantly with the tidal flow. We caught several fish around docks, but a lot were very deep and didn't seem to hold fish. Lots of places to fish and they kinda jump out at you, though you're right about Lynnhaven.

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Yeah I've been reading up on the suspending jerkbait for big trout. Make sense with being able to work it slow in winter. Thanks for input fish.

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From big smallmouth in the very early spring, to muskies on the New, those suspenders can be golden. I've not done much with them for trout, but that's because we've done so well with the Gulp and using treble hooks over grass beds is a pain in the butt. Winter fishing is a different story, and you are right about the SLOW part. I have had fish hit a suspender after jerking it down and telling a joke or story before twitching it again. That slow. It seems like sometimes in winter, they need to look at it, follow it in the current, confer with their buddies, take a vote on who'll hit it, and then maybe nip at it. That's when those trebles come in handy.

Edit: Totally forgot about the thing that got me going on suspenders...very early spring walleye in the New above Claytor. We'd fish for walleye, but usually ended up with at least one or two big smallmouth and usually a small musky or two or even three banging it as well. One day, we got three citation smallmouth, a couple of 5lb+ walleye, three muskies and a foul hooked carp to go with at least a dozen smaller walleye, four lost muskies and maybe three or four more smallies not quite 20". That's all on cheap Rattlin' Rogues in brown back or green back colors.

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I will be headed down there for the weekend before New Years. Looking to explore some creeks for a big un.

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weather sucks until at least Christmas...yuck!

Gonna be in and around Carlisle Pa next week for a few days and am tempted to bring the fly rod since the temps are going to be near 50 next week but just found out my waders are like a colander so thatll be a pass for me.

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Not very far up the road to the Cabelas store to get a new pair.

Heck I work 1/4 of a mile from both greentop and bass pro in richmond so thats not the problem just dont have the dough at the moment with the holidays and all. Plus I still aint got a clue to winter trout fishing though I have someone whos willing to teach me next year to try and show me some of the ropes so hopefully that works out.

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Bingo.

When working in Aspen, I used to take folks who had never picked up a fly rod, said they wanted to "be like Brad Pitt in a River Runs Through It," and have them catch several trout in a day by showing them how to dead drift a nymph rig.

The only difference was that I knew which flies would more than likely work and the Roaring Fork is highly rated water with a lot of fish. Regardless, when I showed up there 10 (FML) years ago, I wasn't a good trout fisherman. Bossman said to go down to the river and learn to nymph it. Now I can catch trout just about anywhere and am pretty damn good at it. The South River in Waynesboro would be a great place to start. Depending on when Iget down to the Smith, can give you an idea about it there too.

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A friend I've come to know through work is from over seas and has just moved here and cut his trout teeth on the South River and now regularly shows me all the trout hes been catching there and were gonna go sometime in the new year when my schedule slows down so he can show me how he nymphs so I can try to get an idea of how it works in person. Hes from eastern europe so is well versed in euro nymphing and said he can show me both ways to get a feel for it.

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Euro is extremely effective. I haven't done it yet but it's on the list

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Judging by the fish pictures he shows me most weeks after fishing all weekend hes pretty good at it so I'm eager to try and learn the tactic. I've gotta get my trout game up for the jackson river later this year

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You going to float a section of the lower or fishing above Lake Moomaw.

Not sure yet honestly my fiance got me a ticket for day pass from Anglers Lane service and honestly I havent really read into all that yet been too busy but I guess the sooner I start planning the better.
Did som reading looks like I have access too two locations below the damn withing 10 miles of the damn I just have to call ahead and reserve the locations.
https://www.anglerslane.com/fishing_trips.htm?gclid=CjwKCAiA3OzvBRBXEiwA...

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Looks to be a guide that works the lower part of the river below the Lake. I have never floated any of the lower. I have wade fished several sections of the upper river.

My friend whos fished it gave me some large streamers he had luck on it with that imitate sculpin so I have some insight to it through his experience but thats about it I'm gonna do a DIY trip to try and figure something out since I cant float a bigger fee atm and honestly would just be happy to catch a handful of trout to show I can figure some of it out.

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Be very careful if you plan on trying to wade fish any of the Jackson below the Lake. Much of it is posted with people exercising "King's Grant rights".

Man, you guys pitched to my wheelhouse here. I floated the lower section with Chuck Kraft early in the game. He is the guide that was cited for trespassing for fishing through the Crown Grant "claimants" sections and was ticketed by the game warden. TU held a benefit, money was raised for his defense, and he was railroaded by a bunch of local homers in the so called justice system, and totally abandoned by the state which had spent millions of dollars acquiring access and developing launches and ramps in anticipation of a destination class fishery. This after a million dollar cooling tower was installed near the Moomaw dam to appease the owners of the river that was inundated for the project in order to create a trout fishery downstream. Lots of money spent that was subsequently derailed by a few influential property owners for dubious reasons. They claim dominion over fish and fowl (huh? Waterfowl? Federal, right?) and had their claims backed up by the court system there. We fished below the dam regularly in canoes, especially in the winter when there was little if any pressure, and had hundred fish days. Then the intimidation, then the shut down, then I said screw you to the whole thing and haven't been back in what has become decades. Some of the land owners claiming Crown Grant don't have it, but who is gonna look it up? I won't ever fish there again, but hope you do well.

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Homeowner: "you're fishing on my property. We're going to get you fined."

Me: "I'm Robin Hood. Come and get me."

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They don't confront you these days, they just call the man and he writes you up. Not worth it.

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Hopefully the people I have this ticket with can direct me somewhere I wont get into trouble at so I can just fumble about and try to snag one or two.

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What the end game for the buttheads on the river there was to control access in order to either completely keep the public from fishing as they passed through their property, or, and I believe most of them were looking at this, they wanted to make money on the things the state had done to develop the trout fishery. Selfish and short sighted, they put at least one tackle shop out of business, and we were regularly paying for canoe shuttles and local guys filled the need. Not much employment in that area of Va., and those folks really appreciated the business trout fishermen were bringing to their backwoods locale. Selfish and short sighted is what I said, and what I meant. There were a few land owners who were pissed off that their slowed down redeye and smallmouth stream had turned into a truly fine trout river and took it out on the fishing world, but most, I contend, were looking for money and Orvis leases, etc. Some of the intimidation tactics they took before the court ruling were against Va. law passed later about the right to hunt and fish without interference. I expect that if you have dispensation to fish, you'll be ok. There are several stretches without Crown Grant deeds, but several private landowners there are cashing in with paid access. I'm sure you'll be alright. The problem for people floating through is that a lot of people without that Grant have posted their stretches claiming that they do and while the game wardens know who they are by now, it hasn't stopped the landowners from trying to inhibit use of the river. And Lord hep ya if you tip over while on the posted stretches, because if you even set foot on the bottom of the river, you've broken the law. I blame Mary Sue Terry and the backward homers in that part of the state for the state of it all, and look forward to the day that another intrepid person like Chuck Kraft, but with more wherewithall to fight this to an upper court, steps up and dukes it out with those river hogs. The river, by the way, has been designated navigable water, so that should have settled the issue...but noooo!

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I remember reading about this years ago, and it still gets me angry.

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Yeah. I agree. Fuck all those assholes. Hope they drown in the river they ruined...

In all fairness, they felt like they had their property sort of "taken" for the trout thing, and didn't sign up for constant floating canoes, kayaks and rafts fishing by their homes. They aren't all wrong, but they aren't entitled to stop the world because they want things to always be what was. Moomaw changed all that for them, for better or for worse, and they just refused to accept it. Or, for some, until they could cash in.

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I'm afraid to Google "euro nymphing" while at work /s

Hell, 'Nator, I'll loan you a pair of old but still working neoprene stocking foot chest waders for the trip. There are a couple of very old pin holes and a little water will creep in over the day, but the neoprene keeps you warm and the water just a little that you'll likely not notice. While we aren't built alike, the fit of the neoprene would work just fine for you, and no worries if you end up in a thorn bush or something. I have a patch kit, but the leaks are so small, I never bothered. These are lightweight and easily packed. C'mon by and grab them up before you go, and read the nymphing advice posted above.

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I would gladly accept a little help here but my window to fish has dissapeared with the honey do list evolving into completely replacing a flight of stairs and rewiring a basement while im in town so what little time I wont be working I'll be watching football with the grand parents which I wont mind.
On nymphing, I;m still kicking myself for missing the Joe Humphreys seminar that was hosted in Carlisle last winter as I sit at work watching his videos to bide my time to the holidays this guy is an information sponge.

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Finally:

mighty Omega has struck out

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The only way this truly resolves itself is if VMRC can finally be the ones in charge of the menhaden fishery. The fact Omega would have such little regard for legislation should be enough to go after them in a bigger way.

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Good news for sure. Long past time for this nonsense to stop. I don't mind folks making a living from our natural resources, I've done it myself, but don't tell me you have to be unfettered or unregulated in your pursuit of our commonly owned resources. I also won't let the fox guard the henhouse if I can help it. Hopefully this is the beginning of common sense regulation of harvesting such an important piece of our Bay ecology.

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Omega is shut down by the feds. Also rec anglers can't harvest menhaden as bait and there will be some impact on blue crab harvesting.

While this is good news, the bluefish news (dropping to a 3 fish per person limit) is bad news for everyone who liked catching trout, spot, croakers, and sea mullet.

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Is it official???? I am buzzed and if this is the case I will be freaking hammered the rest of the night and worthless tomorrow.

Also, we will probably disagree but I am ok with the bluefish limit being reduced. There are very few big ones. The lack of grey trout, spot and croaker is from the insane bycatch wasted I see off of shrimp boats every year.

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The bluefish limit is weird but in the parts of the bay I fish I rarely see what I would even consider eating come to hand most bluefish are the tiny chompers and nothing more I wouldnt mind seeing them make a rebound either but one theory I have is the rockfish and the bluefish populations reflect the others health. When bluefish are strong typically rockfish numbers are low and vice versa. I have no scientific data to back that but as someone whos grown up fishing for both on the bay it just feels that way to me.

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Well, I've been fishing the Bay for a long time now and I agree with your assessment. When the stripers basically disappeared years ago, we caught bluefish up to 15 lbs regularly just trolling around near the mouth of the Potomac. In the '70s and '80s, chumming brought exclusively bluefish, and there were all sizes available. As the stripers recovered, the blues receded and now we are where we are. The folks I knew back then bemoaned the loss of their "rockfish" (sorry, a colloquilism I cannot bring myself to use, regardless of where I live), but then when the bluefish basically backed off, they bemoaned the lack of big blues. In those days, the outer banks (again, no OBX stickers in those days) had regular runs of chopper blues on the piers and beaches that would absolutely delight any hard core surf fisherman. I am all for a healthy bluefish population, but if given a choice of catching big stripers or big blues, I'd go with the stripers in the Bay, bluefish in the surf. That was just toooo much fun slinging Hopkins and Gator spoons and trying to land those big toothy sumbitches in the waves after watching them approach as they literally shredded bunkers and trout, then chasing them down the beach until they got away as you fought another 12 lber.

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I would really love to see runs of big blues in the surf off of OBX again. We found 4-6 pounders this Sept. at Cape Lookout one day and man they are some serious fun. I could catch them all day long and not get tired of it.

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It is official. I don't mind the limit being lowered to 10 across the board. 3 seemed to be an over correction, and speaking to the folks who have lived through peaks and valleys, increased numbers of bluefish can mean bad things for the speckled and gray trout population.

I don't have a dog in the hunt though. I will use a bluefish for live bait, which means using one or two a day if threadfins are not around. Otherwise, they are just by-catch when I try to catch spanish or mindless pullage.

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True, the shutdown is just for Virginia I believe. So NC live baiting for kings would be okay. Decreasing the limits on one thing definitely shifts around pressure on other species.

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Well, our striper charter fell prey to yet another forecast for wind and 3-4' waves for Monday after being blown out yesterday. Now, however, we are scheduled for tomorrow, and I think we're a go for this one. Will report afterward, hoping we have something worth reporting. Going out of Deltaville, so it's at least close by and we'll be fishing water I have access to, so I'm hoping to learn something.

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I'll be heading to Briery this weekend and hopefully find some hungry giants. I hurt my back beginning of the week so a lot will depend on how well it is tonight and if I feel confident that I can load and unload the yak without making it worse.

I've also joined Appomattox River Company's fishing team. We've got a good group of hammers put together for the 2020 season.

Good luck with your back, that can be frustrating. What does being on the team get you?

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Can't comment on the actual package but what it really gives me is an opportunity to prove that I can successfully promote a business, which opens the door for other sponsorships, and it also gives me a foot in the door to meet other people in the industry.

While I built my guiding business from scratch, I certainly had a lot of help and advice from other guides that made it possible for me to be as successful as I needed to be to continue on and build things up. The networking I did before I even thought about guiding, and then the help I had from those folks when I decided to make the leap was the key. Best of luck to you.

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Three bluefins in a row for my friends in Morehead City. $15,000 in the pocket to go fishing. Another guy I know landed a 400 core pounder yesterday as well.

I'd love to hook up one of these in a flats boat.

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But she's already been in your flats boat!

Oh, you meant the fish...sorry.

I still remember the first guy to get one out of a yak from Hatteras. The photos from the chase boat were amazing.

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Now that's fucking ballsy. Hope he was wearing a wet suit

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Thanks for sharing. Crazy that those three kayak anglers could hook up a dozen times in a day. Easiest trip ever for that captain...

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Once they get dialed in, bluefin fishing is the closest thing to a sure thing on a charter in my experience. Weather is the biggest challenge. I have done three trips, and everyone one was run out, lines in, hooked up until everyone is tired, go home. There was rarely any significant time in between bites, except for my first trip where we ran way south of the bluefins to find yellowfin and then stopped by to play with the bluefins on the ride home.

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Well I need to put that on my list then for a fly rod fish.

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Quick question for the New River musky guys- is there a local place where you go for tackle, or is it all online shopping now?

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Giles county here - Pembroke Stop n' Save has the best selection, with Tangent having a marginal at best selection, just enough to get you going. DSG in Christiansburg is ok.

If I do buy online, usually it is through Rollie & Helen's Musky Shop (muskyshop.com). But I'm a muskie newbie and don't buy all the custom stuff/colors that dominates the industry with basement/custom lures going for insane prices. Ebay has some people who make quality leaders - you just need to read through the reviews to make sure.

If it were me I would buy all of these at Stop n' Save (not that you really asked, but I am a lure junky so...):

1. Jake/Grandma/Shallow invader crankbait
2. Phantom Softtail Glide bait
3. Some sort of bucktail (they have lots)
4. Whopper Plopper 130/190
5. (maybe?) Deep diving crank - my dad caught a 42" on a SK XD10 last winter.

They also have some Shimano Sojourn rods which aren't a bad price/deal for an entry level rod, as well as some good reels. I use a Diawa Lexa and a St. Croix Musky Mojo (DSG has these) and with sale prices online they were a combined $250. St Croix is getting rid of some Musky Mojo models for $105 with free shipping right now.

Way more than you asked for - but cabin fever has set in now that the semester has ended.

When I first chased them there weren't as many places carrying them locally and we got ours mostly from Musky Hunter catalogue, but it's all different now with the 'net. Still, if Musky Hunter is still around, it had a great selection of all the faves and standards.

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Interesting. I would like to try a musky rod as a lighter cobia live bait rod. But I want to actually hold it to get the feel before purchasing and nobody in Nova carries musky gear.

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The only mass produced musky lure that I buy are the Chaos Medusa's.

The rest are all custom.

Well, if you can do without Suicks, Grandma plugs, Buchertail and Mepps spinners, more power to ya. They've worked for decades, and still work today. They ain't cheap, but they're proven musky lures in all the waters they abide. You don't have to go custom to catch muskies.
Not knocking your custom stuff, just commenting for those who want to musky but are put off by the expense and not ready to shell out for custom work.

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Well, a not so stellar day on the salt of the Bay today. Too many things went wrong, from seasickness to mono wrapped on the prop. Waves were way bigger than forecast and like a mixing bowl, making all three of us ill. The captain soldiered on as best he could, but we ended up back in dock early and heading to Merrior to slurp oysters and chow down on scallops and flounder. Caught two fish, one a keeper, but really didn't put in significant effort overall. One captain when asked how he was doing on the radio replied he was watching the 0 foot waves break over his bow. We were over near the Eastern Shore around buoy 42, mostly. I was the only one that actually got sick, but then I felt fine, but my buddy got green and didn't come around. He made the call to bag it, and cap'n and I agreed. Can't blame the captain, and I guess I'd fish with him again, but it wasn't much of a fishing trip. The lunch, however, was outstanding, and my buddy is a great guy to spend time with.

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Skunked yesterday at Rudee and Lynnhaven. Saw a handful of fish caught. Couldn't figure out the bite. Tried to work it slow. Maybe needed to go even slower. Water temps around 43 degrees

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What were you throwing? If you were tossing suspending jerk baits, you can't fish them slowly enough once you jerk them down to where you want to work. Literally twitch and wait. And wait. And wait some more. Any current or water movement will move the bait minutely, and the fish invariably hit on the wait, but you need to have a tight line to sometimes feel the soft tap, if you're gonna feel the bite at all. If the long waits aren't working, still don't fall prey to impatience if you know fish are around. Maybe twitch a little more, but the waits are what'll get them when the water is that cold. At least, that's what worked for smallmouth and walleye in the winter New River waters.

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I fished a mirrorlure and a bunch of different jighead and lure combos. Fishing mostly unknown waters to me while trying to fish super slow is tough. I will probably grab some of those suspending jerkbaits for NC next weekend.

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Get them in 808

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Thanks, that's what I have in the couple mirrolures I got. I'm new to the hardbait game but hopefully will figure it out sooner rather than later.

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This color is legit! Word!

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43...eeek!

plastic swim baits...on-the-bottom

Spent some time in the cumberland valley area of PA and scouted some good looking limestone creeks and went and bagged a few pheasants for some dinner and feathers for tying some nymphs. Decided I best bite the bullet and get some waders so I can go back and fish the mountains in spring time cause man does yellow breeches creek look good. Spent a few hours looking around the susquehanna and man its a serious body of water to try and cover with a kayak or a canoe. Going to try and get there this year but I've got more looking to do to figure out some good stretches to attempt in a non jet powered boat.

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The mighty susquehanna is no joke south of williamsport, friggin huge!

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Hate to beat a drum so often, but rent a boat from Johnnie at Riverside campground in Duncannon. Or maybe ask him about a shuttle so you can float it. Don't do this until the river goes to lower summertime flow. It's a different river then, and much more manageable by small craft. Then break it down into smaller pieces, and I'll beat one more drum, one more time. Those fish had never seen the sinking worm rig I've told all of you about, and when I used it there year before last with a low flow, it was amazing and out performed anything the guide had in his box. Now, I know I'm good with it, and have so much confidence in it after thousands of smallmouth have fallen prey to its distinctive spin and wiggle, but the bait is money when fished correctly. Literally money for me and a couple of other guides, and on a river that big, with so many smallmouth in it but so much fishing pressure, a bait they are unfamiliar with just ups the game. Either way, stay off of it until the flow subsides. It's dangerous in any boat in high water, and the jet boaters out there tend to be either pros or locals with a ton of river knowledge.

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Was Santa nice to you all this holiday season? I picked up a new Fathom II and some Kipsonix Simms gloves.

I have a few gift cards. Has anyone used a Lamiglas Inshore Black casting rod? Thoughts?

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Santa delivered a nice lightweight, long paddle and a landing net (ego, small) for use with the new 'yak.

I bought a Lamiglas Black spinning rod last year. The fit and finish on the blank is very nice. Reel seat however is most unimpressive...cheapest of any spinning rod I own. I expect it to break with any use at all...don't know what they are thinking.

edit: looking at the ICAST videos, I apparently got a 2018 model. They changed the reel set in the 2019 version. I'm not in the least surprised.

here is 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q8ApsuBS5w

and here is 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWpXWU1jvkE

Their reel seats have always been that way. While I've never had one go hinky on inshore/bass rods, I did have one slip sideways somehow and had someone take it apart and retrofit an aluminum seat onto it. It was so far out of warranty that it would have been a pain to send it back to them, but I was near to doing it. I do know that they had to take some drastic action during the recession in order to remain in business, but I believe their reel seats were already cheap and while functional, are just not up to the quality you expect to find in Lamiglas products. That said, I have found them to be very responsive to phone calls if you'd like speak with people who actually design the rods. I left their guide program long ago, but they've continued to make quality rods, and I've never heard anyone with a real gripe about the performance of them. I know how much I love mine and I have owned a bunch of them. I've yet to have a rod in hand that I considered better with the exception of their low end fly rods, which are still decent rods, but I've used better. My experience is limited, though, and there are so many good rods out there, but I've owned their surf rods, bass spinning and conventional rods, a walleye rod that I broke and still cry over, fly rods, a couple of heavy duty saltwater spinning rods and a couple of saltwater conventional rods. Getting the half price guide deal was a big help, and I no longer can afford to buy Lamiglas routinely, but it was a good ride and I should have enough rods to get me into my dotage...oops, already there!

Edit: Just read dave's edit and will check out the link, but I can say this about those cheap reel seats. My Certified Pro bass spinning rods went through 8 years of heavy use in my guide business, and I used them in the off season as well and never, ever, ever had one of those cheap reel seats break. Not once. Ever. Now, 16 years later, I am still using the ones I haven't traded or given away. I can guarantee that few of us here will ever use rods as often or as intensively as those spinning rods got used, so cheap or not, it isn't as if they were giving you crap. It just looked like crap compared with the rest of the rod, and I agree that they needed to upgrade, if only to make us feel better about buying their rods.

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$119 Lamiglas inshore saltwater rod? Maybe I can afford a new Lammy after all.
And dave, seriously, if you actually do end up breaking that reel seat on your '18 model under normal use, I'll eat my hat. I'd wonder what you would expect from a $119 rod, but hope you end up loving it, wart and all. Other than my cheap Lamiglas fly rods, that would be half price for most of the 20 or more Lamiglas rods I've owned, all bought over ten years ago, so something else other than the reel seats must have cheapened up. Let us know what you think a year from now.

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The reel seat is the Fuji "Standard" with black plastic hood. It is, arguably, "the least they could do"...though I'm sure they aren't the only ones using it. You're right, it probably won't break under anything approaching normal conditions and your hat is safe; I just think the plastic is cheap; and it gets very little "bite" on the 3000 series reel. By comparison, some older Falcons I have have a Fuji "Deluxe" seat and Fenwick uses the more modern Fuji TVS series on both the HMG and Elite Tech...WAY better, imo.

FWIW (maybe nothing), your Lamiglas rods were made in the U.S. Lamiglas Black may be designed and spec'd here, but to the extent it matters, they are made in China.

So far I'm fine with the rod, but I'm getting more picky as I get older.

The TFX was certainly my choice (better components, made in the US), but the $249 is pretty prohibitive. For that, I could throw another $20 on the pile and get a Terez.

I may just get a spinning Teramar and live bait with it. Who knows.

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to be fair, what Lamiglas Black does offer are some uncommon specs, at least in spinning gear, i.e., 6'11", 7'2", 7'3"...also look at their actions (bendier) and lure wts (heavier). I don't think it is a competitive line at all in the inshore trout/redfish/flounder fisheries of the SEUS...but maybe more useful in striper/blues territory

I didn't know Lamiglas was farming out rod production. When I bought mine, they were made in Washington. I'm in total agreement with the cheapness of the rod seat, it just doesn't go with the quality of the rest of the rod, but I never had any problem with "bite" on reels, and I have used several different sizes and brands of reels over the years.
You are right that Lamiglas does offer "uncommon" sizes and weights of rods with a variety of actions. My favorite inshore rod here was the walleye rod I've mentioned, though I had no use for it in river fishing, or in walleye fishing in Claytor. It was too fast for deepwater jigging, and while it had plenty of ass, it couldn't set the hook well enough in 25-40' so I never used it until I got here and then it became my favorite rod of all time. It was an odd size, 7'3'', and the softness of the tip lent itself well to dragging jigs for flounder, and was deadly using Gulp Jerk Shad on unweighted hooks for redfish the year they were in. Would also have been good for targeting trout if we'd have had more of them when I had it. I didn't use it when targeting schooling stripers, preferring a stouter tip for setting the hook, again, often in deep water, but I caught plenty of small ones when fishing docks on it.

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Santa delivered enough to get some good fly materials that I've been wanting for a redfish fly variation ive been wanting to tie. Also got a new 9 wt to replace the 8 wt that had the cork grip falling off of it (less than a year old, but certainly got it's fair share of use).

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What redfish fly?

Send that rod back in. That should not happen. The grips on my TFOs have gone bad and I've sent them back and they fixed and returned them immediately.

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The guy at the local shop ties the redfish marsh critter, I just kind of tweaked it to my liking and tie a shit ton of them because I can.

I did take it back, but they didnt have an 8wt to replace it so they gave me a 9wt at no extra charge (it was a combo promo that they are no longer offering, the damn return/exchange took an hour, but whatever). Not opposed. Interested to see how the 8wt line does with the 9wt rod. If it doesnt work how I like, I'll bitch and moan at them until it does

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Used some gift cards to pick up some new waders. One question for those who wear the sock waders can I get away with a pair of tennis shoes/ old hiking boots instead of the wading boots?

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Wading shoes aren't that expensive and come with a variety of soles. I had a felt soled pair I would wear trout fishing on slick rock that worked well and cost less than 40 bucks. A lot depends on what you're wading. Sometimes I had to hike in a ways, nice to have a more supportive shoe/boot for a slog. Also, especially if you are wearing thin waders you should wear wading socks over the stocking feet to help protect the fabric from stones, etc., that can get into almost any boot or shoe you wear and can compromise them. You need ankle protection in a lot of wading situations with sharp rocks just waiting for your gear, but at the beach or wading in the sound or something, tennis shoes would surely suffice. I will assume you didn't buy neoprene, which wouldn't fit very comfortably into hiking boots and still leave room for a sock. That's my take, but I'm sure there are more with maybe a more modern approach. I will say that comfort is important if you want to make several hours in waders more pleasant. They can be a drag on you physically if you're under/overdressed or poorly shod.

Edit: I have three pairs of waders, but seldom wear anything but my neoprene. I have booted and sock foot and wear what is most appropriate. The booted ones were for duck/goose hunting and very cold weather fishing and the 5mm neoprene is fantastic at keeping me warm, but for any degree of movement, I prefer my cheap pair of 3mm sock footed neoprene waders. I could never afford, or make myself save up for, gore tex waders which I could have used often in place of the 3mm neoprene in my more active days, but usually when wearing waders, the water's chill made neoprene more attractive to me, while the thin kind would have made for a lighter protection, but the underclothing I would have had to add in some situations would have negated the advantage of Gore Tex's lightweight nature. As for the advertised "waterproof and breathable" claim of Gore Tex, I have yet to be convinced that while underwater, anything can actually be both.

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Trust me, spend the $150-$200 on some Simms wading boots and you won't ever need to buy another pair unless you become a guide.

FELT. Not the rubber nonsense.

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My brother fishes so much he can wear out a pair of Simms boots in less than a year.

I went through a pair each season guiding in Aspen. The Roaring Fork is a river full of super slick bowling balls. It taught me how important felt is and it would wear out those soles and boots after a long summer of being on the water every day. Shockingly my current pair is in great shape years later because I rarely use them.

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Huh so you'd recommend the felt soles over the rubber ones? Was looking at the entry level Simms boots since they're more my budget and get really good reviews I was thinking more rubber tread but then again I wear Crocs all summer in the river with no traction issues and those bad boys have no tread left and do just fine

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Ask my broken fly rod what it thinks of the rubber soles versus the felt ones... I landed on it on my ass wearing those shit rubber sole boots because Simms used to market them having the same traction as felt. Took three steps into the trout river, out went my feet, crack went my rod when I landed on it. I went right back to the felt boots. Simms did away with the felt for a year, I think 2011 or 2012. The guides raised hell and they brought them back the following season.

Yes, I used to wear Crocs in the river but most warm water rivers don't have the same slickness as colder water rivers for whatever ecological reason. (They also have crawfish and hellgrammites and I don't like those in my crocs.) Because the temp is colder, staying upright is more important for comfort and safety.

I have busted my ass in my Crocs so many times on something as simple as painted concrete that was wet. They are boat shoes to me, simply for the cushion. For warm water rivers I use Chacos and they are pretty damn grippy but it still isn't the same as felt sole wading boots. I haven't looked at wading boots in a while and the newer rubber might be better but nothing grips as well as felt. The only downside to felt is it can carry didymo and potentially diseases but bleach takes care of that. Felt is the better way to go, trust me on this one.

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Never honestly thought about it since most of the time when were smallie fishing from kayaks or wading my crocs have always been my go to, locked into 4wd that is strap on so they dont get washed off. I've also used them in a pinch to catch a crawfish for bait when things get slow. Was seeing all the felt ones come with disclaimers about diseases ad to always dry and clean before using again.
At the moment these are what I'm gonna go with.
https://www.amazon.com/Simms-Tributary-Wading-Boots-Adults/dp/B07TW6PL1D...

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Fish enough in those crocs wading rivers and sooner or later you'll find out the hard way why not to, but I'll let you learn like I did. Flyguy's right here, you want felt. You can also replace felt soles, I did it twice on a pair of cheap canvas wading boots. Wade the New with crocs and you're cruising for a sliced foot or two, not to mention the need for ankle support, and while I've got Croc wading type shoes I wear on the boat sometimes, their sole can definitely slip on certain surfaces, and I've also gotten fish fins in my foot when an active fish slips out of my hands and lands on one of the spaces between straps, something that's happened twice. Protection from cuts, fins and hooks can be more than just for comfort given the many diseases that are out there in our waterways waiting to eat your flesh.

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Been quietly following this thread. I didn't know there was such a thing as felt shoes. Sounds like rubber is good, but felt may be a better option in many cases. Thanks for sharing.

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My wading boots are felt sole with metal studs. Saved me from busting my ass many times.

We will see how I like the wading boots I end up with and see if they can pull me away from my crocs, my biggest thing is in the kayak I'm typically barefoot which aint super smart but its whats comfortable for me. I'm sure in due time I'll find a shoe thats better for me than crocs but for now they work well enough.

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I've worn out several pairs of crocs and definitely favor them in the summer months, so I get your affinity for them. Like I said, though, they have their place, and I also sometimes forego safety and good sense in the name of comfort. I wore Tevas for several years on the river with only a couple of minor issues, but they offered more coverage than crocs and stayed on the foot much better than crocs (even strapped in crocs). Still had the problem of sand and gravels getting underfoot and I didn't wear them to wade. Also wasn't about to dump that raft or get turned over getting sideways in a rapid or something, and my personal opinion about this was formed largely by the New River, home of sharp rocks, jagged edged ledges and home to the heelsplitter mussel. Hope you don't find out the hard way, but that's what life's lessons are all about, right?

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I'm a fan of Crocs, too. During the cool and cold months, I want something that will drain the water out and off my dry gear. Since water is so dense, you need to get that moisture off, and the crocs do that. They are slippery as hell though. A lot of my fellow yakers use and swear by the NRS Boundary Boot and other NRS offerings for footwear designed specifically for folks who's time on the water means being IN the water. https://paddleva.com/collections/technical-footwear

This is what happens. XYZ rod builder creates a name for themselves. Sub reel also. Farm out cheap stuff to increase profit.

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Well the one thing I wanted most for Christmas, guaranteed more time in the woods and on the water, I didn't get. Maybe next year. Good luck to all you lucky ones who get to spend more than 40 hours a year in the wild places...

Got down to Beaufort this weekend to enjoy warm weather and low winds. Saturday was a struggle with just catching a few spike trout and a flounder. I was being a little antsy on moving spots too quick I think. Sunday switched area we fished a found a nice hole that produced 3 solid 18-19" trout along with 15 or so spikes. Finally caught a nice trout on a mirrorlure (MR18) at the slack point in the tide.

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Where'd you launch out of?

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Beaufort, NC not SC. So I can't help you with SC fishing.

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Gotta figure out a way to differentiate the two in print. Hell, in speak too, since I can't ever remember which is Bo and which is Bu.

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Bo is NC, Bu is SC. I can always add the Beaufort/MHC to clarify.

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I drive the Monitor-Merrimack Tunnel every morning to work and have noticed birds working a few mornings in the last week or so. Anyone know if schoolie stripers hang around there or are they just mindless beach chickens having a diving contest?

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Yep, known place for schoolies.

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Good to know...thanks!

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Wife and I did our family trip to FL, weather was horrible. Rain and wind 6 of 8 days. Partied with our adult kids, my brother and his family, and some Air Force pilot friends of my son's (he played football with them at the USAFA). Had 2 nice days, Christmas and the next day. Did get out on the Indian River in Grant, FL and Sebastian Inlet.

Christmas day was a "do as little as possible and get out in the nice weather" day, just fishing off of the mainland dock we used for getting to the Grant Farm Island when we lived out there. Just farting around with bouncing gulps of the bottom and dead shrimp. Didn't bring the net and that ended up being a mistake. My brother in law hooks into a beautiful 21" Black Drum between 2 party barges on the dock - no way to get the fish to shore or pull it up onto the dock on light tackle. Fish is bee-lining for the boats and the dock pilings and Mike handles it beautifully. So, as the fish tires, how do we get it to the dock? So, I jumped onto a party barge, laying flat leaning over the water and after the fish tires, I hoist him up onto the boats and then the dock. Team effort landing a perfect eating size Black Drum.

Next day we hit the ICW in Mike's boat and cruise the old haunts around the mangroves East of Grant, FL and then headed down to some bottom structure we know about next to the ICW channel near Sebastian Inlet. Lots of different species caught (silver trout, Lane Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper) but only one keeper silver trout to add to the Black Drum from the day before. Weather was exceptional, but no big fish stories, a great time.

I do miss my salt water fishing in Brevard County, its always fun.

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Sounds like a great time

Good stuff. I heard the little mangrove snappers have been thick even up around Pensacola.

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Anyone ever fished around Sanibel island, FL just above Naples? Really want to find a snook when we go in late April

I can't speak to there specifically but Back2VT might have advice. I'll be fishing closer to Marco Island on Friday and may have something to report.

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I fished a lot in Sanibel over a period of a week, twice. Once in 2015 and another in 2017, both in July. While I didn't connect with a snook, I had plenty of opportunities on smaller fish up to 24" or so. I was fly fishing from the beach, and I found it very challenging to get my fly out in front of them without spooking them. I think my lack of practice with the 8 weight and the relatively high winds were to blame. I used 2-3" white and silver bait fish patterns like Norm's crystal schminnow. It's a lot of fun and if late April wasn't my favorite time to hunt in Virginia, I'd be quite jealous. Good luck!

Stayed on Sanibel long enough to surf fish several decades ago. Caught a ladyfish or two, some big whiting, but mostly catfish. Never saw a snook, but didn't know what to do down there anyway. Early fall and a big cold snap had come through and it wasn't good for fishing anywhere we were that trip, my last to Florida.

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I fished it 4 years ago but it was over new years after a cold snap. The only success we had was going on a guided trip. Fishing the flats with live bait, caught 4 reds, a few trout and snook. Not sure if you will have a boat or not. Blind Pass Beach might give you a shot at a snook

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Talk to Whitney at Whitney's Bait and Tackle or his nephew Jarrett (one of his captains.) They are related to Scotty Jones, one of the first pier guys to show me the ropes when dad and I started pier fishing regularly in the OBX. Whitney's is the best tackle shop on the island and have some great guides, and they are cool about giving good information on spots and tides.

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Dig into the older posts on here and in last years may or june fishing thread I put up a longish post from when I was there in early may last year just south of naples but similar stuff. If youre fly fishing get some schminnows and shrimp patters and watch the trough just behind the breakers for cruising snook and be very wary they are very spooky so you need to be very still. Try to spot them well down the beach and set up for them so when they get to you the bait is in the trough. If youre spin fishing get some gold spoons incase spanish are running if its rough they come closer to shore. If its calm get some swimbaits on 1/8 ounce to 3/16 ounce and get some zman deizel swim baits in a natural bait color like pilchard and depending on what in the surf you adjust. For red drum and trout bounce it off the bottom slowly retrieving the whole time. For snook, ladyfish, and jacks steady medium speed retrieve works the best halfway up the water column. Slowing down the bait in front of a fish wont get a bite keep it full speed into shore and theyll be more likely to hit it than if you were to slow down close to shore.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I ended up changing plans a bit and am going to hit Naples Florida instead. Looking into a back country fly guide through the Everglades for snook and tarpon

https://www.facebook.com/Capt.jameswebb/

This guy is awesome went with him a couple times last year he has an awesome setup, good gear, great knowledge of the area in and around naples and marcos island and incredibly insightful as well. Couldnt recommend enough.

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