OT: Conference Championship Weekend

Pac12 looks to be eliminating itself from playoff contention.

I hope Clemson throttles Uva.

I hope Baylor redeems themselves against Oklahoma.

Still rooting for LSU

Don't give a shit about OSU-Wisconsin.

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Does an unimpressive win by Utah allow Oklahoma to get in based on blue blood status?

No but Utah not being good and losing to Oregon will let the much better Oklahoma team in if they can beat Baylor.

I am not fond of Clemson, but I want uva to go down and down HARD!

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69-0 good enough? Bronco leaves at half for the Memphis job (an obvious upgrade).

By the end of the first quarter, yeah, sure!

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I hear FAU has an opening

What Clemson is going to do to UVa tomorrow:

Looks like Oregon will save us from watching Utah lose to LSU or Ohio State by 50.

Reminds me of when Clemson thumped ND last year

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It's a bad sign when both fanbases are actively hoping for one team (ND) and the 2 seed got to play them. Bogus seeding.

Hopefully they'll fix it eventually.

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Amazing block by the motion receiver to seal the edge on a 4th and 1 run. Really nifty tweak on a short yardage run play.

Utah D looks like a grainy, tattered photocopy of it self without Blackmon in there at Free

of course their DL are the ones not getting pressure on the QB and letting Herbert expose the weakened secondary.

I can't remember if it was Vilma or the other guy, but I am so glad they called Dabo's schtick propaganda, because that's literally what it is. Nobody actually thinks Clemson is not good and it is so infuriating to me that shit still works on people around me every week.

You mean lil ole Clemson? Who could have ever believed it or written such a story?

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Is Utah actually going to make this a watchable 4th quarter?

Hopefully!!

Well they made it halfway through... My hopes for football chaos all weekend just took a hit

Either Santa Clara is hard to find or the security is unbelievably strict. The 3rd quarter is almost over and the Utes have finally made it to the field.

Been a problem for Oregon all year. They struggle to stay keyed in for a full game. Every game I've watched had a period where they just were totally out of sync and have to pull it together, contrasted by a period where they look like a great team.

That was a horrendous PI call from the PAC 12 trying to save it's only hope

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I think that might be game over. 70 yard run is a backbreaker.

Man. Is Herbert still projected to be a top pick? He certainly doesn't pass the eye test for somebody who had been starting as long as he has to me.

208 Yards, 3 TDs. I wonder if Etienne can match that tomorrow.

I hope he can in the first half so I can devote the remainder of my attention to see if Whisky can finally punch through.

Well, that's one way to start the weekend slate of games.

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I'm not advocating for the easy non-conference schedules, but I'm surprised that schools are leaning heavily into the harder schedules. Playing those big games is high risk, high reward, but if you lose, you're basically out. It's almost like the lesser game are low risk, even higher reward.

Instead of the committee "punishing" 1 and 2 loss teams that lost against highly ranked opponents, the strength of schedule factor should weigh more heavily into whether 12-0 and 11-a teams that have not played any ranked or highly ranked teams necessarily deserve a playoff spot. Kudos to Oregon for scheduling OSU and UGA the next three seasons instead of going the weak opponent route.

If you watched that game though Oregon had Auburn. It was almost like they didn't want to win it. They just gave it away with a lack of focus and strange calls by the coaching staff. That should be thing that stinks for Chris Fallica...not the fact they should have played someone lesser. The way Oregon played in that second half they probably could have easily had taken a loss to that lesser opponent. The taking point should be - look at the opportunity they lost by giving that game away. We would be sitting here probably locking a 1 loss Oregon into the playoff with that win over Auburn.

It was almost like they didn't want to win it. They just gave it away with a lack of focus and strange calls by the coaching staff.

Ahhhhh..... VT and ND?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Or they could have taken care of their own business by not losing to Arizona State. Or the PAC12 could have given their teams a better chance and more flexibility by not insisting on a nine game conference schedule.

I like the nine game conf scheds cause they're generally tougher to get through, but when other conferences have shown that the eight game scheduling template works, you're just handicapping yourself with an extra conference game every year

That is why I am in the favor of where only conference champions deserves to be in the playoff with three at-large bids.

I'd say that if UGA beats LSU for the SEC Championship, they both deserve to be in the Playoff. Obviously if LSU wins UGA is out. Based on body of work a one loss LSU is more deserving than OU or Baylor. While Clemson deserves to be in it, we should remember the cases where other undefeated teams have been left out because they play a whole season of unranked cupcakes.

I think it's more of a control-your-own-destiny narrative. If you schedule hard, you can drop a game, even a key game, and still make it in. If your schedule is easy, you have to either win out, or get lucky. Pick your poison.

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A one loss LSU > A one loss OU
A one loss OU > A two loss UGA
Should be pretty simple now.

I think the conference championship matters more than your comment accounts for. The committee has never accepted a 1-loss non-conference champion over a 1-loss conference champions. I think that 1-loss B12 champ OU gets in over a 1-loss runner up UGA.

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Ugh. Us not playing today sucks.

I think that uva playing today sucks more.

Uva just sucks every day!

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Ceedee Lamb is a beast. Boomer Sooner might drive me crazy though when they play it 400 more times this half.

Wonder if Brewer is alright

Brewer went back into the locker room for further evaluation, concussion protocol. Hope he's alright.

The Oregonian has an article out right now going over the Pac12 and their woes. Fascinating read. Then you see the crowd last night at Levi's and hooooly shit.

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Link?

I saw somewhere it's like a 12 hour drive from Utah's campus and 9 from UO's. Add on top of that Levi's sounds like it's not the most accessible place being located away from SF proper and the game started at 5 PM on a Friday. Would've been a tough sell either way.

Putting the game on Friday night has been a continual problem for the Pac-12, but they keep doing it.

If they put it on Friday they sell fewer tickets but attract significantly more viewers. If they put it on Saturday they sell more tickets but attract significantly fewer viewers. Seeing as how viewership of Pac-12 games overall is struggling, I can understand why they might think it's worth sacrificing attendance for increased recognition.

If Baylor's O-line could come out of the locker room that'd be great.

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We got ourselves a game now, at least

If Baylor wins will the CFP committee try to screw them if the SEC game is close?

Probably

100% of course they will.

Which is unfortunate, as Rhule is a hell of a coach

They will get trashed if they make the CFP regardless of Rhule being a good coach.

Vikings fans are just salty about everything

I mean so would OU

If Oklahoma wins and gets into the playoff, Ohio State is going to wipe the floor with them. They look pretty dreadful on both sides of the ball. The only reason they are ranked this high is because of that OU on their helmets.

And here I thought only the SEC got the benefit of the doubt in terms of past performance.

Watching Pimpleton play for Central MI. Big yards on a reverse and PR. He was named first team MAC as a WR and PR.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

So what are the outcomes we need for Camping World bowl? Just UGA win?

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You mean for the B1G to play in the Orange Bowl, so the ACC gets the Citrus? As I said in the ACC Bowls thread, we need one of these things to happen:

- Georgia beats LSU and both to make the playoffs, sending Florida to the Sugar and giving the Orange to PSU
- Wisconsin beats OSU and knocks them out of the playoffs, sending Wisky to the Rose and knocking OSU down to the Orange
- Penn State jumps Florida despite neither team playing

Well I just got triggered again. What bizzaro alternate universe are we in where UVAnus is playing on championship weekend and we aren't? Clemson is going to blow them off the field. We should be in Charlotte tonight. Our dud performance last weekend makes me mad all over again. The streak was bound to end eventually, but makes it even worse that so much more was also on the line. And to the victor goes the spoils.

After being at a party last night with the douchiest UVA fans guffawing about the upcoming Ducks Unlimited UVA banquet, I got so mad all over again. This morning Gameday showed a clip of Bronco smashing that stupid fucking piece of asphalt in their locker room after the game. That fan base fucking sucks. They deserve nothing. Why the hell didn't we throw on their corners more? We should have won that game by two scores. Just infuriating.

You're right, I should be hosting a huge tailgate right now in Charlotte.

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Why the hell didn't we throw on their corners more?

Our coaches are not the sharpest tools in the shed.

UVA fans guffawing about the upcoming Ducks Unlimited UVA banquet

Really they shoot guns?

or are they laughing at a DU dinner elsewhere? Either way they are pussies!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

If the defense doesn't go missing for 3 straight series we win by two or three scores. I'm still not over that game and probably won't be for a while

You are correct. I've said it on this board three times now and I'll say it again. Farley being out cost the defense the game. Chatman isn't the corner that Farley is and I think it really affected the defense down the stretch. Unfortunately, the team cannot control the back spasms he had. Cornelson does control a game plan that attacks UVA's weakness, it's secondary, and he did not do that enough.

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Lol. You absolutely cannot give Joe Burrow 6-8 seconds in the pocket to throw.

Reminded me of Tyrod against Nebraska with how much time he had

If I was a Baylor fan, I'd be beyond furious at Rhule. I don't care where your starting field is. When you have that amount of time and timeouts, you play to win. Cowards are always losers.

oh yeah, rank FAU cowards

I been here since day 0.

Hey Saban, hell of QB that led OU to a playoff berth, huh?

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I don't understand the point of this at all. Tua is better than him, and Saban didn't run him out of town. Saban loves Hurts.

Saban defended Hurts to a fault last year, so he'd certainly agree with that.

Tweak this instead to just be a petty jab at Bama; fuck yeah, I'm on board.

Saban's "defense" was to act like a douche to any media member who asked if Hurts is second string. So disingenuous since he clearly made Hurts the second string QB who would only come in if Tua was injured. Just be honest with the kid that he's QB2.

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Yeah what he's telling the media and what Jalen Hurts understands clearly at practice are two different things. He let Jalen compete for the spot but everyone knew who would win. I don't see any issue in the way he handled it.

Looks like two people have already pointed out the most obvious holes in this, so here's the last bit: OU hasn't quite punched their ticket yet, as long as Georgia still has even a slight chance to win today.

Georgia getting dinged up in this game. WR looked like he might've torn his knee up landing from a catch, Fromm just went down with an ankle injury. LSU looks like a force for what they're doing.

Well poop there goes the Florida bowl games I was looking to Tech get.

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Still a slight (and I mean slight) chance for the Orange, but you're probably right.

I mean idk what the Orange bowl does. UVA doesn't travel and they are about to get blood let on national television tonight.

They either take the ACC champ or the second ranked team, which is still going to be uva, regardless of the score tonight.

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And then they might look into adjusting their deal when the first 12 year cycle of the CFP is over.

I mean, you're probably not wrong in that UVA will probably stay in the top 25, but it would be far from the first time a team dropped out in the last week:

2014: OU dropped out from #20 (though it was a regular-season game, an OT loss to OkSU)
2016: Houston dropped out from #24 (didn't even play a game)
2017: Fresno dropped out from #25 after losing to Boise (though Boise replaced them)

The only time #23 lost was when we lost to Clemson and actually rose to #22 after taking that game down to the wire.

I'm not saying it's absolutely going to happen. I'm not even saying it's likely. But there is still a chance, however slight, that the committee will decide that UVA played poorly enough that the teams ranked #24 and #25, plus one more from outside the top 25, deserve to be ranked above them.

The only one of those where someone jumped into the rankings after the final week without playing was 2014. (But Minnesota had fallen from 18 to unranked the week prior, and then jumped back in at 25.)

2016 had Temple jump in at 24 after beating Navy, who dropped from 19 to 25 (and that might have as much to do with our ranking as our performance). And as you mentioned, Boise replaced Fresno for the #25 spot in 2017.

Was always long shot for that but was hoping UGA pulled upset and moved us up to Camping.

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Gary Danielson is a moron.

"Maybe LSU can't beat Ohio State, but they deserve the #1 seed."

You just disproved your point in the same sentence.

Honest to god I literally just thought to myself that Joe Burrow is deceptively fast.

First one to the gym. Last one out. Scrappy.

Coach Burreaux's kid?

I am a crazy bastard who want to see college football burn and think UVA shock the world by beating Clemson tonight.

*maniacal laugh*

Trevor Lawrence's helmet has more stickers than UVA had fans at their spring game.

If it were any other team...

This game hurts more to watch than I thought it would. UVA just doesn't belong on this stage, period.

I have 3 favorite teams. VT, Kentucky, and whoever is playing Tennessee.

So yeah. That's LSU (-7) bet isn't in any danger

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it never was. Other than LSU I'm expecting a very bad bowl record from the SEC. The SEC is really bad this year. Vandy and Ark are the two of the worst P5 teams this season. Ole Miss isnt much better.

Bama played only 5 games against teams with winning records. I assume they will go into bowl season still thinking about auburn.

UGA doesnt have an offense.

Florida hasnt really beaten anyone outside of Auburn

Auburn had a nice win against Oregon where some how Auburn hypnotized the Ducks into forgetting how to play the 2nd half. But then they beat Bama, who didnt beat anyone decent. It really all depends on how well Nix's plays.

I think Kentucky might be a bad draw for a lot of teams, but they have some questionable losses. A&M might give some teams fits, Jimbo is a good coach and can get them to play. Miss state is pretty bad though have some very questionable wins (la Lafayette only lost to miss st and app state). I haven't watch tennessee but I can imagine they are good.

Watching that drive just triggered me. Their secondary is sooooo bad.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

You hate to see it.

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Hope Cornelson is watching Clemson offense and how to beat UVA, Jeesh....
This is painful, should be us.

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Cornelsen is the lightweight version of Stinespring.

Corn is probably just writing it off as the Clemson players "executing" ☹️

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Watching this game, I feel strangely better to see Clemson also struggling with Perkins running skills but also extreme disappointment in Corny seeing an OC who knows how to attack LOLUVA's absolutely horrible secondary.

Joe Burrow would pick them apart.

This would be the most #goacc thing....

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Well I'd say uva has Clemson's attention!

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Must be so sweet being 6'6" passing to tall receivers who beat depleted UVA secondary. Of course it helps to have an offensive line that loves blocking for Lawrence.

Salty as fuck. Yes, I am.

Seeing Clemson trashing that secondary is infuriating we didn't follow suit

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But would Cornelsen call for pass-heavy game?

8-Ball says, "Doubtful."

All I can do is laugh, at this point, and enjoy what *hopefully* is an ass beating.

LSU should be the one seed.

Crazy how Clemson identifies you can attack this defense downfield...

When at first, third time a charm.

The announcers saying Kevon Wallace again spouting bullshit saying that UVA didn't recruit him so this game means a lot. He said the same thing when they played VT last time. He didn't allow any in state teams recruit him.

Maybe what's he is trying to say is that VT and UVA weren't offering enough $?

Y'all understand what I mean when I say Clemson is luckiest team ever when they don't even need the luck? It's absurd.

Clemson's punt returner brought his horseshoe tonight.

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UVA sideline are trashy.

It's the Bronco mentality. It was the same at BYU.

Agreed. Last night I watched compilations of CFB fights and saw BYU involved in several clips. One thing to play with an edge and a complete another to be total and utter asses.

We absolutely need to teach them some manners and humility when we exact our revenge.

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I just hate these two teams.

Travis Eteinene (sp?) is why I said VT needs a game-breaking back. Love McClease but he doesn't run like Eteinene. Hope that VT can reel in stud backs.

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Good Lord. Would Fuente be getting this kind of tongue-bath?

It's absolutely sickening. He was lucky as hell to get Perkins

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UVA would be a hell of a lot better of a team if they would stick with running Perkins. That offense is actually decent when that happens. The second they stop running him, that offense becomes stagnant

I hope VT's players saw that clip of Bronco busting a paver and become properly motivated for the offseason workouts.

The motivation should pick up immediately...still have one more to play

To be honest, for me personally, the season ended in Charlottesville. The bowl game is nice and all that, but the team will change in the spring and that's what I'm looking forward to. To see if there will be growth from the team who has tasted bitter defeats as well as sweet victories.

Or they were like me and thought - damn, I accidentally drop one 6 inches and it shatters, why the hell did Bronco Mendenhall need a sledgehammer?

Watching Clemson laying it on UVA

I have 3 favorite teams. VT, Kentucky, and whoever is playing Tennessee.

62-7 enough to push UVA out? 🤔

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Not sure if I'd rather UVA stay in just so I can watch them get shwacked by an SEC Blue Blood 🤷🏻‍♂️

Holy hell this was pretty close prediction

Well these announcers sure are sucking that uva/bronco D...I'll be flipping over to the OSU game.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

If all these commentators do is talk about Clemson's WR's, it's still probably not enough to compliment them properly. They are seriously so freakin good, they've gotta be 4 deep NFL players there...their WR's are like their DL last year

Wisconsin doing their best to make it interesting

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Well... Not that interesting. If Ohio State loses they're still in. The playoff is set now. It's Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU, and Ohio State. The interesting part will be if they actually move Ohio state to the fourth seed if they lose this game.

Leonard. Duh.

Exactly. The committee has shown that the first criteria is number of losses, and those are the only 4 P5 teams that will have 1 or fewer losses.

Coming into this weekend, there were only 7 P5 teams with fewer than 2 losses. Georgia, Utah, and Baylor have all lost.

I think an argument could be made to keep OSU above Oklahoma, because they at least beat every team on their schedule. Oklahoma had to beat the same team twice and still ended with a loss on their record.

Real talk: are we really worse than UVA or did we just throw a win away last week? This is garbage.

We choked and threw a win away.....but we would also be getting smoked right now.

No doubt I still think we lose this game. But I think we give Clemson a much better game than these turds.

We threw a win away last week which is what makes this suck even more.

Our D lines up better against Clemson. Yes, we aren't winning, but a WAY better game it would be.

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Easy. We threw it away. If we have the Clemson gameplan we drop 52 on the Hoovers.

It's infuriating but hopefully this lights a fire under this team similar to getting knocked out by a 16-seed.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Agree. And I think Fuente and Co. need to graduate from the play it safe, ultra conservative, play not to lose game plans and start going out and playing to win when the time is ripe. Clemson didn't get where they are by playing it safe every down. Tired of throwing away games we should win because of a shit gameplan. Go win the damn game.

I think this is what infuriates me the most. Many including myself have put a fair share of the blame for the loss on the defense but I think if we had an OC that could execute a basic game plan against a horrible secondary the way Clemson is doing, we wouldn't have had to rely on the D because we would have scored a ridiculous amount of points against them. The D would have only been responsible for a few stops to allow us to go up by multiple scores.....

Guess I need to eventually move on :(

We didn't exploit their weaknesses, without a doubt the team playing the way we have had since the Duke game is better than UVA. However the better team doesn't always win, last season we won as the worse team, this season we lost as the better one imo.

The game for which I cared the least is currently yielding the most interesting results. I don't know shit apparently

Anyone notice that Ohio State is down 14-0 late in the 2nd?

Nah, too busy revising the UVA gameplan and results.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I did...I'm at anOSU bar and I can't stop laughing...what a bunch of weenies

Ohio State is playing scared.

Just a slight holding no call for Ohio State

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No dice.....Quintez Cephus

I know Clemson is talented, but I REALLY like our cornerbacks!

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Whew Clemson lighting up the bad UVA secondary, what a game plan

Sigh...

We are about to see the future qB for UVa.

LOL, he fumbled on his one and only play, classic LOLUVA

That's what happens when you run the quarterback too much. Perkins also has injury history. Looked nasty.

Literally woke up from an early sleep, turned on the TV, and see Perkins on the ground injured. Weird timing.

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Followed by a fake punt for three yards that doesn't convert. What a time to be alive. Think I may go back to bed.

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Now I hope they really pour it on to show all the UVAh fans what next year will look like

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Why are these announcers sucking up to UVA/Bronco so hard? They sound like the announcers to most of our games for the opposing team

Honestly I am a little surprised they are keeping Perkins in. Dude is clearly injured and keeps touching his ribs/chest.

Sigh. I hate UVA.

Bronco said "Meh, he can't play for us next year might as well try to get as many points as possible to sell to recruits"

OSU figured their shit out and is rolling. Wisco is about to get curb stomped.

Loluva just got trash timed by Clemson. Backup QB is in.

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Clemson QB2 roasted that UVAh secondary already

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Clemson also just set the record for most points in the ACCCG.

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With a touchdown here Clemson would tie the largest margin of victory in ACCCG history.

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We travel better than the Wahoos, it's a smarter business decision to choose us over UVa.

Same. I don't care that we'd be massive underdogs, that we'd probably get killed, or if UVA deserves it more for beating us.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Ya hate to see this kinda teabagging. Another 21 points please.

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uvac is the honky tonk man of cfb. they have a low ceiling (i.e. intercontinental championship = beating us every decade or so) and put so many teams over, like a jobber would

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yeah, i only think we lose by 20

I been here since day 0.

This couldn't happen to a better team. No, seriously, a better team would not be losing this badly. May the wahoos go unranked and the bowls make a smart decision.

Honestly thought Clemson would be beating them by more than this. So....they got that going for them. I'm literally giddy thinking about their team next year without Perkins

Backups have played the 4Q. Let up way too early.

Didn't even matter. They scored 17 with their 2s and 10 of those were against UVA's 1s.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

There it is. Most points given up, most yards given up, largest margin of victory in ACCCG history.

There are your talking points the next time a wahoo tries to talk to you about their big bad football program until we take the cup back next year.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

My main talking points to UVA fans are, "Hey congrats on the win over Tech. It's kinda like losing your virginity.... took you 15 years, it was pretty awkward and I'm sure you'll talk about it for a long damn time."

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Getting completely manhandled and the announcers can't help but keep sucking on Bronco's shlong. Ugh.

Well the absolute drubbing of UVA happened. Wonder what the Orange Bowl bigwigs will decide.

Committee has to drop them from the rankings first.

I'm looking up what precedents have been set for how the committee treated teams that got smoked in championship games now.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Yeah I came back to post about if the committee members watching this game tonight would even consider UVA a top 25 team now

Let them have the orange bowl against Georgia, Penn state or Alabama...or whomever.

No ten win season for loluva this year.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

God Maria Taylor is so fine

Clemson probably would've scored even more if they ran more QB draws, big missed opportunity for them.

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If Lawrence played the 4th quarter, they would have put up at least 75 I think. I took great pleasure watching the demolition.

(The Clemson 2s scored every time they had the ball)

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Yeah, but it wasn't the starters who would've scored first play and only touchdowns. /s

Sooooo did loluva break the 15 year losing streak...asking for a friend. /s

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

I don't like Ohio State much, but I never doubted for a second they would win this game.

Damn Clemson didn't score more. I admit it last week pissed me off. The only good Hoo is a losing who!

So here's what I could come up with how the committee responds to losing by a relatively large margin as underdogs in championship games in the CFP era.

In 2014 the committee dropped Arizona 3 spots after losing to Oregon by 38
In 2014 the committee didn't drop Mizzou after losing to Bama by 29
In 2014 the committee dropped Wisconsin 5 spots after losing to OSU by 59

In 2015 the committee dropped USC 5 spots after losing to Stanford by 19

In 2016 the committee dropped Florida 2 spots after losing to Bama by 38
In 2016 the committee dropped Colorado 2 spots after losing to Washington by 31

In 2017 the committee dropped Miami 3 spots after losing to Clemson by 35
In 2017 the committee dropped TCU 4 spots after losing to Oklahoma by 24
In 2018 the committee dropped Northwestern 1 spot after losing to OSU by 21

However, none of these teams dropped to unranked. The closest we came to that was USC dropping from 20 to 25 in 2015.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Basically UVA will drop from 23 to 25, and go to the OB most likely is the conclusion I draw from your research. They'll probably get curb stomped again.

I think you could interpret it however you like. UVA lost by 45. Only one team has lost a championship game by more than that in the CFP era and they dropped 5 spots.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Seeing as how the final rankings are released in just over 12 hours, if I were the committee, I'd drop uva to 25, seed the top four and call it a night. Unless the committee is going to put another ACC in the top 25, it's not worth anyone's time to drop uva out.

Now they become a 4 loss team. Did any of those examples you mentioned involved a team becoming a 4 loss team

2016 Florida.

Also in 2016, VT gains their fourth loss of the season in the ACCCG and moves up one spot in the rankings.

2015 USC and 2018 Northwestern became a 5 loss teams after the championship game.

Again, in 2016, we took the game down to the wire against an elite-level opponent.

UVA just got curbstomped.

There is no comparison.

There is no comparison because there was still an FSU team ranked higher than us even before that game.

We arnt going to the Orange Bowl. We lost to UVA.

2018 NW became a 5 loss team.
2016 Florida became a 4 loss team.
2015 USC became a 5 loss team.

I can't speak for the resumes of any of these teams though.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

And that sound you hear us another paver going unbroken!

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

This, this, so much this

My friend showed me this and then immediately registered an account to post it here but you beat him to it. Which is what he gets for not already having an account here!

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So accurate.

This should go plaid

1 lsu
2 clemson
3 osu
4 oklahoma

easy

I can't wait to see some talking heads wasting time arguing Clemson vs. OSU for 2 or 3 seed.

LSU vs. Oklahoma in the Peach, Clemson vs. OSU in the Fiesta.

If someone could make a low-lite reel of this game for uva with the beautiful "Ave Maria" playing as the background music, that would absolutely make my year.

If the committe keeps UVA ranked just because they're lazy and it's convenient, that is a pretty shitty thing to do when you're supposed to "be fair".

I have a hard time believing under any other circumstances that a #23 team losing by 45 doesn't drop at least more than 2 spots.

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If the committee really does re evaluate resumes every week Kansas State just picked up a win against a playoff team ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

If the Orange Bowl Committee really doesn't want UVA, are they allowed to "talk" to the CFP committee and ask them to leave them out?

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Highly doubt that's a thing.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Eh, I would totally believe that the various bowl committees (and ESPN, since they broadcast most of the matchups) try to lobby a few of the voters a bit to try to "improve" some of the matchups.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but there's a reason that they even created the committee in the first place instead of using an unbiased BCS-style rankings system...

At least we'll get that one vote from Frank /s

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Honestly, knowing Frank, if he's even allowed to vote when UVA is involved he would probably vote for them.

Do they really have much incentive to though? Orange Bowl isn't going to be super thrilled regardless of which ACC team they get. From a quick google/wiki search it looks like they've never been to the OB, so there's a chance that they would travel better than us as well for the experience. The OB Committee gets an easy out if the CFP committee leaves uva-c at 23, 24, or 25.

it looks like they've never been to the OB, so there's a chance that they would travel better than us

They also couldn't sell out their ticket allotment to their first ACCCG appearance ever.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

That's fair. I mean everyone assumed they would get murdered and additionally, I know that I would rather visit Miami in January than Charlotte in December when it comes to travel options.

By the same logic you used earlier, it was their first-ever conference championship game, and Charlotte is significantly easier to get to for most UVA fans than Miami is.

Also, UVA is about as likely to get murdered by Florida as they were to get murdered by Clemson. It'll be a little lower-scoring, but nobody will expect a win there.

Technically it's still Miami in December.

They also couldn't sell out their ticket allotment to their first ACCCG appearance ever.

Even with a free $25 voucher, lolUVA

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

It's also not good optics for the committee to have an unranked team in a NY6 bowl, regardless of who it is.

If anyone is interested, the game is about to be replayed on ACCN right now

Good for them, they got curb stomped tonight, and will get curb stomped 3 weeks from now. And somehow Perkins has to live, cause he was getting hammered all night.

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And yet they beat us and deserve it more.

So much salt tonight about how UVA got destroyed and will probably get destroyed in the OB.

Most likely, but just stop. We lost to them, not to mention getting destroyed by Duke at Lane and losing to a bad BC team.

There is nothing to suggest we would fair any better if we want to be honest. We defeated literally nobody of any importance this year with the easiest P5 schedule.

Let em have their moment, and this point I have serious doubts we can even beat a team like Kentucky in the Belk Bowl (their QB would shred this defense)

I'd rather get curbstomped in the Orange Bowl than for UVA to have the chance to get curbstomped in the Orange Bowl, but maybe that's just me.

Regardless, I'll watch whatever bowl game we end up going to and cheer just like it was any other game.

Meh, I think I'd rather have a chance at a win in a bowl game, AND seeing UVa getting crushed in one, while the ACC gets the same money overall.

Can someone program a bot that auto responds when "easiest P5 schedule" is posted? That was based on a pre-season projection. After football games were actually played, we did not have the easiest P5 schedule.

I get that the schedule wasn't great regardless but at this point that talking point is now false and I see no reason to keep bringing it up except to exaggerate in support of your point or exacerbate negative emotions toward the program.

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Who did we play that wound up markedly better than preseason projections other than wake?

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Depends on how many wins constitute markedly. Not many people expected UNC to be as competitive as they were, let alone bowl eligible.

On the other hand Miami sucked so there's that.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

UNC, Wake, and Pitt were all playing way better than projected BEFORE VT beat them. UNC was coming of close losses to Clemson and App. Pitt was looking very good.

I think the salt comes from two things:

1. That fact that we hate UVA and enjoy their misery.

2. Bowl games arent about who deserves it more but about revenue.

If the Orange Bowl had to picks teams based off of who would bring them more revenue, VT would be the clear choice. UVA had to move their basketball game back because they knew that the 10K fans that showed up to Charlotte would have going to the bball game instead.

The ACC, other than Clemson, was just really bad this year.

Was anybody's for the taking, and UVa had Perkins.

UVA embarrassed the coastal division with that pedantic and pathetic showing tonight. Hopefully the OB committee takes note. Embarrassing.

And we embarrassed the Coastal Division by losing to LOLUVA

Is coronavirus over yet?

Probably to tell him that was an atrocious showing of football and we will not be taking UVAnus.

Bloody Mary time

Yes, they don't deserve it.

In a year where nobody else does, either.

True, no one "deserves" it this year. But these bowls aren't about deserving anything. They're about selling tickets and TV ratings. If UVA is unranked, I hope they pick the team that will sell more tickets and make a more appealing TV matchup. UVA has NEVER been to the ACC championship and didn't even come close to selling their ticket allotment last night. Likely less than 10k of their fans there. They won't travel, and coupled with the blowout, going to be a tough, tough pill to swallow for the Orange if they're forced to take them.

The ACC was Clemson and a bunch of other teams this year.

We really do need to step it up.

Honestly, I don't know if we play all that much better than UVa this year, and they're middling at best. Still, you don't win the games you don't play.

If you play Florida, you have a CHANCE to beat them.

We just need to take care of business, improve our bowl win record, and think about next year.

Piss on uva. That is all.

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We lost to UVA!
Collectively, we've spent way too much time talkingc about how we should get there OB over them and how pathetic their showing was against Clemson.

1. We didn't even earn the right to play them, so we have no room to talk.
2. With our resume, we don't deserve a NY6 bowl (and yes, I'm aware that "deserving it" isn't the full criteria)
3. We beat them for 15 straight years! We can enjoy that AND still eat a little crow for this year's loss
4. Anyone who has an issue with the ESPN circle jerk on bronco needs to remember (from a high level) that he took them from the perennial bottom feeders of the ACC and Thanksgiving punching bag for us to their first acccg and a streak broken. From a macro level, that's newsworthy.

Id rather just never let it happen again

We need to move on and stop worrying about UVA. They happened to beat us this year and deserve to go to a better bowl game. If we beat them, got smoked by Clemson and then UVA got picked for the OB there would be riots in Blacksburg.