February 2019 - Recruiting Thread Part II

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Some projected Flips on the day:

If Bogle flips from bama to UF that would be two players to flip. QB Beck from Jacksonville area just decommitted from Bama and is expected to sign with UF with an outside shot at Miami.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I don't think hes going to sign with UF. I honestly don't think he fits what they want to do for 1. but hes got a long way to go before his signing day. just picked up a PSU offer last night. Hell have his choice of any major school he wants when its all said and done. Kids HUGE with a monster arm, and only getting better. He plays on my 7on7 team, if youre not busy saturday come check us out at Greenland park. 2 WRs with hokie offers and Carson slinging the tater. Sunday ill be in Orlando coaching at the UA all American camp. Weve got 6 kids from our 7v7 team already participating and a few more on the waiting list.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

I think Bama has a good chance to get Beck back, simple situation where his main recruiters left the team and went elsewhere. They will essentially be re-recruiting him all over. That Beck kid has a super high ceiling, and really could end up being special. I would have loved for us to be in on him early.

Nick Cross is a beast. Not sure how to feel about that flip.

I don't know if anyone is 100% about Asante has all day to hear from coaches.

All I will say is that the immaturity of the players that are leaving this program is astounding. The picture of what was going on behind the scenes is starting to become more and more clear.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Coaches talk as well. I bet he has trouble finding a place to transfer.

@CraigThompsonVT

Nevermind. I need to stay away on signing day. Good luck Kumah

We shall see but I'm glad the locker room is cleaned out now

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I'd be willing to put money down on him ending up at a P5 school.

after letting my jets cool about things. there are alot of P5 schools out there. He will be at a P5.

Sorry LA

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I'm assuming you are referencing Kumar getting Asante's ear. That is the extent of what I've heard and haven't seen any specifics, can you share or is it all paywall stuff?

At the end of the day Nester signed... that's a 95 OL, that's a good day.

I don't know specifics at all so just woke up annoyed and grumpy.

Nestor is fantastic but being taken down from the inside really hits me in the soft tissue areas

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I absolutely agree. I had hoped Kumah would be successful post-VT, but if its true that he influenced Asante away from us I hope he winds up at Liberty.

Edit: Actually I hope he winds up at UNC and every game they play is in the rain.

Nevermind. I need to stay away on signing day. Good Luck to Kumah

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Nevermind. I need to stay away on signing day

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

drink!

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

If you don't know specifics, then why are you making a statement like that?

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I guess I'm out of the loop... Who are the DT and CB we lost?

Smith is the DB I'd assume. Most likely FSU feeding BS

Always choose joy.

So a walk on in Smith and Fullwood who graduated?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

No ill will towards Kumah. Looking for a better personal situation - no problem with that.

Only thing I can draw from this is that clearly (and obviously so) other schools are actively using the transfers for negative recruiting against us. On a visit at FSU and immediately after a conversation with coaches DM'ing Kumah for the scoop.

GIVE IT TO ME ROSCOE!

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My List for guys who need to take a long walk off a short pier!
1a) Hill
1b) Kumah ( and I really liked this kid)

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

What a strange turn of events. In December, Kumah hosted Fuga and "persuaded him" to commit to VT. Now a month later he does a 180? Not calling BS, just an odd turn of events.

"There is nothing more hateful than bad advice". Sophocles.

It's a shame this young man cannot see the intent here.

Kumah on the field but a tumah in the locker room

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

obligatory

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

My mind is blown by this. I've watched it about 12 times now.

Yeah, I may or may not have just watched this for like 3-4 minutes straight. It's pretty wild.

Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

I know I didn't think this way when I was 17 but if I were Asante I would at least reach out to a recent UNC transfer or even a transfer from back in Mack Brown's Texas days to see both sides to the story. On a team of about 125 people, not everyone is going to love it, would be wise for him to ask around to inform a better decision.

this source doesn't appear all that reputable if you dig into the rest of the twitter feed

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This tweet is garbage but I was hearing these rumors from multiple places yesterday. I think someone just took the rumors he was hearing and tweeted it from a bogus account. The smoke was in the air way before this meaningless tweet made it out, so do not confuse this tweet with being the source of the rumors. I think the tweet is a result of the rumors from yesterday.

Thank you for the clarification

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This dude has 11 followers and 4 tweets

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

As far as I am concerned, this is Grade A shitposting. That account has 11 followers. And is far from anything credible.

Consider the source of information you share.

It's right there in the Community Guidelines. This thread isn't to share every unsubstantiated rumor on the internet (and for the ones that turn out to be true, the ends don't justify the means).

I don't think anyone should personally attack him but there's more than a little smoke out there and when this happened with the transfers, people were more than happy to bury the coaching staff for it.

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I don't know who that is, nor do I understand your point.

You said the original tweet was shitposting because the account has 11 followers. I provided an example of someone with far more followers mentioning it. Using the idea that followers equals more credibility, that would seem to lend more credibility to the rumors. I have repeatedly said I don't think fans should be calling out anyone without knowing more details. It's certainly worth considering a source but the nature of recruiting is dealing with a lot of rumors and discussing those has almost always been overlooked, if not accepted, as far as I can tell.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

The follower count was a data point that spoke to the fact that account hasn't broken any news and hasn't proven its credibility. Consider πŸ‘. The πŸ‘. Source πŸ‘.

Neither of those two people, to my knowledge, have broken any actual news about Virginia Tech athletics. Treat them as such.

Chris Coleman from TSL comments on that tweet as well as @BeerControl, whom has a personalized title on this very site. That tweet wasn't even the first time this situation was mentioned on TKP and it's not like only fully verifiable concrete facts are discussed on TKP, especially regarding recruiting, injuries, coaching staff quality, which dessert is best, etc etc.

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Everyone is commenting on a rumor. I don't doubt Chris Coleman has his sources, but until he, or anyone else, feels strongly enough to stand behind them and the information they're getting to put out a report, more than a throwaway comment or GIF, please consider the source, and respect TKP's community guidelines. I would appreciate that, thanks.

I get your point that he is much more reputable, but for all we know he is just meme'ing about the same rumor produced by that one account. I want to see people say where they're getting their rumors or this could just be a phone game gone wrong.

This one needs a lot more attention than the other tweets circulating

"If whiskey could talk it would say I'm a great guy...or at least it ought to for as much as I buy"

The polarity in the range of emotions I am experiencing in this thread....

THe problem is that Kumah gets to stick around and take classes this semester, right? He just gets to poison the well the entire time that he is here. Screw that guy. I'm glad he's transferring.

Now to the positives. Nester! That's all I'm going to focus on. This kid is a huge get for the program and I love the future of the OL. Put QP and King behind them, the WRs we have and are getting,.....WOW

A little off topic from Hokie commits, but Whit's son signed with W&M this morning.

Edit: We don't play them anytime soon, but ECU added W&M as a replacement for VT this year so maybe Drew can funnel all of his dad's frustration into wrecking ECU back where they belong.

well atleast we aint playing daddy ball lol

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Good for him. Williamsburg is actually a pretty cool town. And he wont be all that far removed from Coach Fuente

Or all that far removed from his dad.

Agreed, Williamsburg Is a really cool place. I love it there.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

i think i heard somewhere that his new coach used to be a cop????????

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

mike London- "you ranggggggg?"

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

It's not even noon yet

in some more a little of topic news for W&M, former hokie Darius Fullwood has signed with the Tribe.

I know you guys didn't get to use up all your fullwood jokes so heres one last chance to have at it.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Well we know which team is going to need a Hooker now.

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If Asante commits to UNC, who do we go after/sign today instead of him?

Is it basketball season yet?

No one, we already have three 4* LB's (Dax, Rivers, and Tisdale, four if you include 247's 4* ranking of Artis) plus a capable starter in Ashby and backup in Griffin. Asante, should we get him, would bring the speed that guys like Dax, Ashby, and Rivers don't have which would be much needed for backer. The wildcard is Tisdale, have heard good things but haven't gotten to see him play because of the injury.

Personally, I'd take a shot at Kei'trel Clark on the off chance he doesnt sign with Liberty today.

we withdrew his offer last week, and at the time I thought was because Carter was going to qualify, but now it looks like Carter is going to prep.. so maybe we have room

Two completely different questions.

Who do we go after? Kumah
Who do we sign today? Maybe a CB.

Obligatory: I do not propose "going after" Kumah in any way, shape or form. Read my signature.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Looking on the optimistic side, hopefully the coaches hear about some of the negative recruiting that may have been happening re: Kumah/Asante and have a chance to get in touch with Asante today and address it

VT '17

Was this already announced/ expected? I'm not up to speed as much as everyone else on NSD.

VB born, class of '14

Since he and Nester are likely the only ones signing today, and they have both signed, it would be a little pointless to make a NSD specific thread.

I guess if we want to hold out hope for Asante... but I wouldn't hold your breath.

That early signing date got after me. Appreciate the info!

VB born, class of '14

He's listed at 6-foot-2, 304 pounds

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

This snippet was in article (on the Athletic) on Matt Campbell and Iowa State's turnaround as a program and in recruiting. I have a lot of respect for Campbell and what he is building at a non-blue blood school and doing it the right way:

"Being around enough coaches in the recruiting process, there's a lot of great salesmanship," Campbell said. "They're selling their soul. I think for us, it's almost, 'Come and be around us. This is who we are. We're not really changing. This what we're about. This is where our program is going.'

While of course I have O&M glasses on, I would say easily that UNC and others are great salesmen but sell there souls at the same time. While I want to continue to win on the recruiting trail and make it an emphasis, I would much rather have the same approach Campbell mentions than selling a kid empty promises. From what I've seen in the beamer years and now with Fuente, it seems like that has stayed the same.

Is there a ticker available anywhere for the guys that are just signing today? Hokie sports has the list but I'm not sure who is today and who was early

I think we already have both LOI's we are likely to receive. I think the last one is for Asante but it looks like he's gone all UNC.

3. Nester, Knox, Cunningham

Oops you're right, I forgot about Knox Kadum. He was in nice and early with the rest of the lads.

There's always a chance. Gotta stay tuned. TKP is fun on signing day. Thanks for all the updates gang!

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Fun reminder for following recruiting: As of this Summer there was considerable gnashing of teeth over the fact that we had maybe one 4* committed with no realistic shots at any others. Nine months later and we've landed another class that, while not elite, has more high-end talent than we have ever gotten (2012 is the only other class we've had with at least 7 blue chippers going back to 2005, majority have between 2-5). And at least half of this year's class of blue chippers committed as mid-3*s and ended up as 4*s.

Shamelessly stolen from AB, coming with some great facts in this tweet. Doing this year after year is how you reinject depth into a roster

VB born, class of '14

psh, bitter clearly plagarized my post

NOPE NOT LISTENING FUENTE CANT CROOT

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

#recruitingstaffsmatter

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From a statistical standpoint, that's a faulty conclusion to draw. For a Beamer-Fuente comparison, you'd want to know what percentage of blue-chips they signed relative to the number of blue-chips available each cycle (a ratio). That would normalize the pool of total blue-chips (4- and 5-star recruits) each cycle and would protect against, say an increase in overall number of blue-chip recruits.

I was being sarcastic. Fuente's brought in our best recruiting classes.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Is that still sarcasm, because that notion* is actually unclear to me from a statistical point of view.

Edit: *That Fuente has signed Tech's best recruiting classes.

I think you misread his reply. It's very difficult to make straight comparisons to much older recruiting classes for a myriad of reasons.

Flipping Nester was an enormous recruiting victory, and I am absolutely stoked about the potential of our future OL's for years to come, but it is so damn frustrating that we can never have something go right without something going wrong. It just wouldn't be signing day without losing someone at the last second to a school we have beaten by a combined score of 115-29 the last three seasons.

**disclaimer: I realize he hasn't signed yet, but I'm not holding my breath. I'll be ecstatic if I am wrong.

I'm not gonna comment on this, but just wanted to let you all know what is going on in the tweeter.

Who is the DT and CB who transferred? Also nice negative recruiting FSU coaches are doing.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Who is the DT and CB who transferred?

That is grade A negative recruiting being put in his ear. This is the type of stuff our staff needs to get ahead of with recruits and squash before it bites us, which it may have.

OOOF, with the dm screenshot.

And like I was saying you don't discuss this shit on boards all of these fuck Kumah comments look dumb as shit and gives a bad look to the fan base.

(add if applicable) /s

Again, I'm not gonna comment on what I think about it, but I will say that if you look at the bar on the right there is obviously a whole lot more of a conversation going on there.

Yes, this is one part of an obviously long conversation and telephone conversations could have been had as well. I would take anything Kumah says with a grain of salt because he's obviously very bitter, but I wouldn't jump on the "fuck Kumah" bandwagon quite yet.

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This. I hate how there's a mindset of "Once a Hokie, always a Hokie" and then it turns to "fuck that guy" based on a handful of questionable tweets and internet whispers. You're right, it is a bad look for the fanbase.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

There's really no win in talking bad about players.

Talk shit about Kumah, sources turn out to be correct. Result: We don't sign Asante. A bunch of people probably tweet at Kumah dumb shit.

Talk shit about Kumah, sources turn out to be wrong. Result: We don't sign Asante. A bunch of people have already said stupid shit about a former Hokie.

If they want to transfer they're free to go, I would hope that they wouldn't say bad stuff about the organization and program but there's nothing that we're going to do as fans to make it any better.

(add if applicable) /s

Kids gonna be kids.

Is it basketball season yet?

Glad to see this. Like I said, IF he was recruiting against us that would be hard to take. Apparently he wasn't so no hard feelings here.

Only respect to Bud and not Fuente, hmm?

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

In his official transfer post he thanked Bud Foster and Wiggins specifically and did not mention Fuente.

Yeah... I mean I'm just sayin, that tweet wasn't exactly a denial.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

I hate Miami but this is pretty amazing. I almost wouldn't mind seeing the turnover chain if it was photoshopped onto this picture (and that was the last I ever saw or heard of it).

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8 AM:

KUMAH IS THE WORST, WHAT A TERRIBLE GUY

11 AM, same people:

YALL SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO KUMAH

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Kumahn guys, we're better than this.

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