July 2019 - Football Recruiting/Transfer Thread

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Please let July bring something good to the world of VIrginia Tech Athletics.

This didn't age well.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

What happened?

I have since learned that the Hyatt decommitment occurred on 30 June. So my initial assessment of the timeliness of the comment is inaccurate.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

This didn't age well.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Since when does TKP Staff make these threads? /s

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Since the TKP staff locks out comments on the June thread

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TKP Staff needs to learn to carry over footnotes. ;^)

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

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Average star "69" at least there is that, right?

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First 69 I've been ashamed of

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Actually the average star is 84.47 (Still considerably better than any team on that list). 69 is the total.

Is it basketball season yet?

84.47 is a mid 3* rating. There is no silver lining in a recruit avg ranking of 84.47.

I agree for sure, just pointing out that we aren't recruiting with Central Michigan at the moment.

Is it basketball season yet?

You are correct, and it's the right way to be looking at it.

AW COME ON... THE DIRECTIONAL MICHIGAN'S ARE ABOVE US?!?!

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

Gold. Thank you for making me laugh. I needed that.

Things are looking quite dour for our 2020 class. We really need to land at least a few contributors in this class so it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass (as severely) in a few years. Here's to hope my friends, what little of it we have left.

Here's to hope my friends, what little of it we have left.

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

Because of the early decision period, it's important to get players into the boat even earlier now. I'm sure that coaches are going to camps and doing evaluations as necessary, but as someone said in another thread. The message being sent appears to be stale.

Our 6 commits have a total of 8 P5 offers. Indefensible.

Something something small class something something down season something something not Fuente's fault. There you go.

Most people don't know this but the Drive for 25 is really just about impossible dream of finishing the football season ranked in the top-25.

We we're 19 in 2017...

Where the fuck is this coming from?

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See, Fuente's already made the impossible happen. What more could VT hope for?

A fanbase that could get it's shit together and not be sensational and hysterical in July.

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You exaggerated a 1 year span of time not finishing top 25. Who lives in a make believe land here?

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From my perspective it ain't the fanbase that needs to "get it's shit together". If the program does it 1st, then the fanbase will follow suit.

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

We had a shit season. One. Singular. If this happened for two or three years, I'd understand it, but you all are losing your head over the most off the rails season we've had in two decades coupled with the portal.

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I hear what you're saying. However, it is subjective. An argument could be made that '12-'15 was also shitty. And even tho' yadda yadda "new coach, system, etc" (ad nauseum), '15 isn't that far removed for a number of us. Couple that with the subsequent decline from '16. By-the-by, not all of us are losing our brains of it. A good many of us are apathetic, numb & like whatever.

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

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UVA is a great place to take a dump.

The second frame makes achieving the first frame way easier.

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Here is what I take from our current situation:
- For the foreseeable future, on football weekends, I can actually stay in a hotel room in Blacksburg
- After a football game, I will be able to walk right into El Rods without waiting

If you were planning on The Inn at Virginia Tech or the Holiday Inn to be that hotel then i've got some bad news for you my friend...

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Nah I like the new Residence Inn. Its super nice if you haven't stayed there yet.

Recruiting threads these days...*

*I'm not disagreeing. Just an observation.

Using /s is for cowards.

Looks like we will be hitting the JUCO ranks pretty hard in the offseason. As well as the transfer portal. With the recent rise in the transfer rate this may become the wave of the future. Recruit guys who are more physically mature and have a couple of years under their belt out of high school.

With the recent rise in the transfer rate this may become the wave of the future.

Justin Fuente, recruiting trend setter?

Adapting to the current trends of a multitude of available transfers. See Hazelton, Damon and Willis, Ryan

weren't they both before the portal tho

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

There has been one program in modern history to do well nationally with the JUCO approach and that is K State. VT would be wise to stick hard to the 4 year player approach and manage the roster accordingly. for example we know that in 2024 we are not going to have 30 seniors... so let's plan for that before then, eh?

Cam Newton?

Great player, won an natty, but Auburn's "program" has not been built and sustained by JUCO players.

Do you really think Fuente and staff are not planning out the future as far as the recruiting numbers? They just wing it, right? Wait until the seasons over, then check? They should probably hire you to plan for them, since they never thought of that before.

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NCAA is cracking down on transfers, so I wouldn't want to rely to heavily on that going forward.

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This is hilarious. Well done

Thanks! 7 away from plaid

Hokie Nation, in general these days.

Holy cow! I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this thread. Who are some of the remaining targets that we have a decent chance of landing?

Woah hey there slow down. it's July, don't you know the class is done and dusted at this point and there's literally nothing that could happen between now and signing day that can change it?????? If there was ever going to be any good news would have already happened by now!!! In fact, we should just punt on the 2021 recruits because our 2020 class is so bad, fire Fuente now, and turn this puppy around in time for the 2022 class!!!!

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My assumption is that recruits have been reading TKP and now know that the program is in ruins
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I feel like I literally read the same messages on TKP and Techsideline..one person states concern and then the response goes off the deepend saying "don't worry it's only July..."
Because of the Early Signing Period, your class has to start taking shape around now...there aren't a lot of opportunities to go out and recruit during the fall..I remember Fuente saying that he feels like you have to recruit so much earlier now because of the early signing period..

247 seems to be more negative though so there's that...

I can see why all the monthly recruiting threads go off topic because there's nothing really to talk about if you're a hokie fan..

I'm not saying don't worry, but don't pass final judgment on a class that's months away from being final.

None of us have the ability to judge this entire class right now, so why bother with the self-righteous handwringing?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Can something happen between now and signing day to cure our recruiting woes? Sure. And I will be hoping like crazy that it will, just like I've always hoped that VT would finally nab that trophy that ultimately eluded the GOAT, CFB. And that's not going to stop anytime soon.

But with our recruiting where its at, that's a whole LOT of 'something' that needs to happen. I truly hope Fuente and staff pull that 'something' out and wow us. But I do not begrudge fans for being concerned with the current state of our recruiting. Have hope and stay positive, but those recruitment stats are justifiably alarming. Hopefully Coach Fu can turn it around.

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Maybe we could Clone-A-Fuller

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At least we're not UVa.

I'd take their recruiting class right now.

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To be fair, LOLUVA has a clear vision for the football program right now, team cohesiveness, and a very focused recruiting plan that is working (i.e. Bronco is signing the guys he wants).

Is it basketball season yet?

Are you saying that VT doesn't or isn't?

I'd say team cohesiveness is definitely there, I get a clear vision, and I think they have a recruiting plan from the coaches.

If anything, I could see commenting on the execution of the vision and recruiting plan, but I wouldn't say it doesn't exist.

I have 15 reasons why you're wrong.

Your 15 reasons are awesome! But they have nothing to do with the current state of affairs.

Is it basketball season yet?

We can take verbal shots at uva all day, but their fans are optimistic, and their program is on the rise. Tech unfortunately cannot say this right now. Gloom, dispair ,and agony on me is all we discuss on this site.

I agree, however I still think we have a better football team than them. While we are at a low point, I don't think the program is falling apart and the fact that there is so much concern shows that we will not settle for mediocrity. When UVA sucked no one seemed to care, and now that they are on the rise I still don't think many people care. I'll take our situation hands down. If we have a few down years then it is what it is, but I don't think we'll stay there because we don't want to. We are a football school with a lot of heart and tradition, and sucking is not something we're good at. We'll get through this and it may not be as bad as we think, at least I hope.

Their fans are only optimistic because their favorite team just won a national championship and their basketball team had a good year, too.

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Zima-tastic post of the off-season right here.

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Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

A couple of things we know about Fuente, the VT program, and recruiting...

1. Fuente has signed a large list of quality 4* recruits in his short tenure at VT. I think a handful of those kids are going to be real studs. Fuente seems to be isolating specific players to fit into the skill positions and getting them. I, like everyone else, seem to overanalyze the big misses along the way. And in doing so, I forget some of the really quality players he has brought in (WR, TE, OL specifically). Are there some major question marks about defensive recruiting? Yes. But I want to see if Bud returns to true form this season and at least fields a defense (top 25 with this schedule would make me happy). If that happens, I think we gain a little momentum in recruiting.

2. I think we should all prepare for a recruiting low point this year. Last year was a rough off-season that never ended... not until the end of the 2018 football season. 2018/19 just about a disaster, there's no other way to say it. And I think kids in high school saw/see that... I think Joe mentioned it, but the perception of VT football simply isn't what it used to be.

3. I think things can be turned around this season from a perception standpoint. We have an easy schedule, experienced players, and what I think is a better defensive staff (yeah, I know it was only one guy, but there was a ton of the instability on that side of the ball last season). If the offense can generate excitement, including in the easy games, and the defense can simply show up, this team will be a much better product - fun to watch. And that can go a long way as it relates to public perception.

4. Finally, none of us know yet how well Fuente can develop players and a team. We get to find out this season! I have to be honest, after last season, where we saw little development and growth throughout the season, I have doubts. However, when I consider all of what the staff was dealing with, who would have been able to manage all of that? Fuente was dealt a terribly bad hand last year (maybe some of it was his own doing, IDK), I'm hopeful things will move in a positive direction in 2019.

Maybe in the end the 2019 recruiting cycle will be a bad one. Maybe the 2019 recruiting cycle will only be a blip on the radar. In any event, Fuente has an entire team of his guys and we all get to live in the excitement of watching it unfold in just a few months.

Is it basketball season yet?

To support your 4* point, under Fuente we have 19 4* guys on the current roster, Rivers and Webb are the only Jr's so 17 are r-so or younger. Breakdown: 2 QB's, 1 RB, 4 WR's, 1 TE, 2 OL, 2 DE's, 3 LB's, 4 DB's. The only position we have have no 4* is DT. I don't think this years class will boast much star power but if Fuente can average 5-7 4* guys a year I think is a realistic ceiling for our recruiting.

1-0 every week

top-6 is VT, ECU, Cincinnati, ODU, Temple, and Liberty

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Is he willing to play RB?

Reports say he's willing to put on 50 lbs and pursue a Brandon Jacobs type role as a short yardage and goal line back.

5 star composite. Would instantly inject life into our program. Could be an all time great here

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Probably need a competitive season to have a chance. I think he really loves VT quite a bit, but if we have another disappointing season and don't start and upward trajectory he's gonna have all those blue blood offers and title contenders where he can make a smarter business decision for his future.

He already has those offers. Scared of Clemson.

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I wasn't implying he didn't already have them, but that wasn't clear in how I worded it.

Kid is a program changer. Probably the best CB in the nation and only a Junior. The kinda guy that other top guys would join just to play with. Gotta do everything short of Hardees coupons to get him.

When was the last time we got a player of that caliber not from the Fuller family? Tyrod?

Just....don't go down this road, guys. I thought we just had a thread about reasonable expectations here. This player is not a reasonable expectation.

Devon Hunter was rated slightly lower in the composite but slightly higher by 247. I'd say he's pretty comparable.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

My son is a student at the same school. Looks like I need to send him to class decked out in O&M only all fall.

I'm just here to sling some legs

Many fans like to complain about the lack of VA recruits coming to VT. For a perspective, you should read this ESPN article about Georgia recruit, Wesley Steiner.
A quote from that article:

Of the 18 commits ranked in the top 25 in the state, including Steiner, only three are committed to Georgia. Among the seven commits in the state's top 10, two are committed to Georgia.

Now the state of Georgia is known for having some stud football players and the 2020 class is no slouch. The 25th ranked player by 247 sports in Georgia is ranked .91 and four stars, so chew on that. Kids want to go where they want and it isn't in state and at a major powerhouse school for alot of them.

The current NCAAF landscape is much different now than it was 20-30 years ago.

Just about any team can get on TV now. Technology has changed how kids can connect to friends and family.

People aren't staying in the town or state they grew up in anymore.

So why should we assume that kids want to stay instate to go to school?

I love being a Hokie and wanted to go to VT since I was a freshman in high school. I'm sure if someone was going to give me a scholarship to any school in the country, I'm sure I would have looked long and hard, and there is no guarantee I would have ended up at VT. Now add in being able to play at a high level in a sport you love?

Anyway, I'm tired of hearing we have to close on the kids instate and we can't pull in all the top state players. In reality, there are a myriad of reasons that impact and influence these kids to make the choices they do. I don't think it reflects on VT at all if the Top 10 kids decide to go somewhere else.

Yeah, if they were a Hokie fan their whole life and decide to commit elsewhere, then that may be something that needs to be dug in deeper, but as noted above, even then you have to be realistic about the opportunities these kids have placed in front of them.

There's definitely truth to needing an expanded recruiting footprint, especially regional as most schools are not able to have a consistently national footprint. However, I think using Georgia as an anecdotal example is a little unfair as they are fast approaching the California, Texas, Florida level of talent production if they haven't already. That's a state where all the blue bloods and title contenders will be heavily recruiting. These top schools like Georgia also have the ability to dominate their region and get their pick of the litter.

Let's take a look at the top 15 prospects from a selection of states more similar to Virginia (non-elite tier talent states) from the 2019 classes (less uncommitted prospects):

Alabama:
2019: 7/15 committed to Alabama or Auburn = 46%

North Carolina:
2019: 9/15 committed to NC State, UNC, Wake Forest, Duke = 60%

Mississippi:
2019: 8/15 committed to Miss State or Ole Miss = 53%

Ohio:
2019: 5/15 committed to Ohio State (all from top 9 including number 1 player) = 33%

South Carolina:
2019: 5/13 (two no commitment listed) committed to South Carolina or Clemson = 38%

Virginia:
2019: 2/15 committed to Virginia Tech or Virginia (both to VT) = 13%

Notes:
*You could make an argument to exclude Alabama from this tier as they are sort of between this tier and the elite tier (Florida, Texas, California, Georgia)
*Many of these states are dominated by the current state + their neighbors. Mississippi, for example, only 1 out of 15 came from a state they didn't share a border with (Nakobe Dean to Georgia).
*Virginia, however, had 12 of the top 15 poached by states who did not share a border with Virginia (Florida 1, Penn State 3, Clemson 1, South Carolina 1, Auburn 1, Texas A&M 1, Purdue 1, Notre Dame 2, Stanford 1)

Interesting stats.

What I find depressing is if Lambert and Greene go elsewhere, we are looking at only 1 in the Top 25 of VA being a Hokie (#24).

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NC is an outlier, no? Having four FBS/P5 schools in one state.

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NC is an outlier in this regard, yes. However, they are still useful in my illustration in that a large percentage of their top recruits are still staying instate.

Three thoughts:

  • We need the equivalent of reddit gold on TKP so I can give this post more than just a leg....
  • Anyways, this is very insightful. Would love to see this tabulated for each recruiting class in the last 5 years or so.
  • As others alluded to, NC is a bit of an outlier - I'm curious which school does the best recruiting in NC. Wouldn't be surprised to see that Clemson has recruited NC better than any of the individual NC schools.

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Clemson is a very interesting case recruiting-wise. I've touched on this a little bit, but they can usually get big names out of SC if they want them, but some years they don't really focus on SC at all. Dabo has pretty much built his recruiting footprint by targeting regions where the local, historically great or blue blood schools are currently down. He targeted the different parts of Florida while the various Florida schools were down and snatched recruits that otherwise would have gone to Miami/FSU. He moved into Georgia and took some guys that otherwise would have gone to Georgia (taking advantage of the slow departure of Richt). He swooped in to Tennessee and landed several guys who would have been damn near Tennessee LOCKS if they hadn't been toiling under/in the wake of Butch Jones like Tee Higgins and Amari Rodgers. They have in recent years taken their pick of the litter from NC and Virginia as well. They've even snagged some big targets out of Alabama (Justyn Ross).

Not sure another school could emulate this strategy the same way again, but they did a great job of taking advantage of local top schools being down out of state and establishing major pipelines that are still benefitting them. The pipelines they built in Florida during the CJ Spiller days are expanding and still paying huge dividends today.

As many have said before, no one cares where we get elite talent from if we are getting it. Georgia pulls 5 stars from other states and their 2020 class has an average of 92.5 right now. If we pulled a Dax and Tre from NC every year there would be no problem. But we haven't established anywhere to consistently get elite talent so in terms of time, resources and connections it's still most likely to be from VA.

As many have said before, no one cares where we get elite talent from if we are getting it.

There is kind of a caveat here... I don't care if we field a team with all Florida kids, but you have to consider the strategy around recruiting. We need to build pipelines to programs, that requires frequent appearances and connections. These things are easier in person, and traveling is expensive. Basically, to get the most bang for our recruiting buck, we need to do well recruiting places (relatively) local to us.

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The issue is when the Virginia kid - Josh Sweat- is better than the kid we get- House Gaines..Lavonta Taylor/Bryce Watts..Khlahon Laborn/Jalen Holston etc, etc, etc.

KeAndre Lambert CB'ed to Penn State by Steve Wiltfong, director of football recruiting for 247.

It's felt like "anywhere but VT" for months. I think we aren't completely out of it yet, but it will take a hell of a recruiting effort to keep him home. He'd already be committed to Clemson if they would take his commitment.

We can certainly evaluate talent for other teams

I've heard TE for them?

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Fuck Penn State

And some good news in July. Lakeem Rudolph committed.

Sweet news

As mentioned before, an underrated recruit that will end up a mid to high 3 star. Welcome to Hokie Nation Lakeem!

Based on average recruit rating, our class currently ranks 62nd, just beating out UNC-Charlotte for the spot.

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I thought I got an alert from B/R that the Hokies landed a 4-star center who picked us over USC. I come on here and see no news......which is because I misread Huskies as Hokies.

I did the same damn thing.. lol

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What do folks make of Landon DIckerson portaling from FSU to Bama?

Saban is willing to take a flier on him and see if he can be healthy if not Bama has depth to be ok.

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Bench. Practice pusher. Depth.

That O line at FSU was horrible. Horrible. I doubt any one individual would do better elsewhere. He has a chance to prove me wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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Saban is an idiot.

LOL. Just kidding.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

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Maybe Jmbo didnt tell him he was leaving FSU, so Saban is taking him just so he can tease Jimbo about it next time they hang out.

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Nonskid colander sounds like something from a bad infomercial.

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Was that old guy going to eat all of those cheese puffs? That has to be a bag and a half. Dude asking for cardiac arrest. Was this an anti-suicide ad?

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

:(

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I don't think Feaster graduates until the end of the 2nd summer session at Clemson, so I wouldn't expect to see anything until the end of the month or into August.

So.....when are we allowed to start panicking?

Never

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Cue list of logical fallacies for why recruiting isn't any better and requisite dose of shame-scorn for unreasonable expectations.

Gary Smith 3? Any thoughts? He's a big fella and a D-tackle. Do we have a shot? Do we want the guy?

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

We have a shot but are by no means a front runner.

The general consensus (by most fans, for all that is worth) is that we do want him.

I wonder who they're talking about. Dabo, Fuente, Franklin... who?

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Wiggins, I would assume...or did he initially commit after Wiggins left?

But why would lambert be the one to say that?

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Why does it have to be about a specific coach rather than a general statement/observation about coaches typically operate?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

i was responding with regard to hyatt's comment. i'm not concerned with lambert. i'd love to see jafar williams continue to build a relationship with hyatt and get him back in the fold.

I see a lot of croot tweetin' going on in the replies.

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It usually devolves into middle aged men arguing about what college they like best while they tag the recruit in the comment

They not gone won't hesitate to accept that bigger bag more money for they family their families.

F-

Former VT commit, didn't want to play DB

Auburn to Liberty, offff!

He gone learn that there's a right side to be on when it comes to the liberty QB-Tech DB completion...

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Hopefully that's not the side ODU's backup QB chose or our DBs are in trouble

Soooo when do recruiting classes usually come together? Given that even the early signing period isn't until after the season is over, is there a real chance that a lot of our top prospects are waiting to see how the season pans out? Anyone have a feel for what percentage of recruits wait for the signing period to announce? Is there reasonable hope this class could turn around?

Given that even the early signing period isn't until after the season is over, is there a real chance that a lot of our top prospects are waiting to see how the season pans out?

All of our top prospects, except for Lambert, have already comitted elsewhere.

Hm, I see. Bummer.

But, are they more than 100% committed?

Depends what you consider turning this class around? I think it's safe to say that this class will be well below average at this point and I think it will end up ranked somewhere in the 50s or 60s. It's gonna be a small class which hurts the ranking, but other than Lambert (who appears to be trending away from us) I don't know of any other 4 star recruits were really in it for. Not sure how much that will change with a great season...

If this class finishes top 50 overall, and top 30 average recruit ranking, we'd be in a (relatively) good spot. I think top 80 overal and top 50 average recruit ranking is more likely though.

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Uh oh! What's going on here?

Boy it's going to be interesting to see how this is handled...if i had to guess, this has more to do with the basketball team.

I'm thinking that about one fifth of the posts on this subject will be in the recruiting thread, with the remainder being in the thread dedicated to the topic.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

It is basketball related.

Link

Why do I recognize this name?

I saw Jimmie Taylor and Xavier Burke are essentially medically retiring, does this mean we have 2 additional scholarships for the fall? Maybe snag a couple transfers

Hardly Working (local ESPN radio show) just claimed they believe the Hokies would beat UVA again despite UVA having better talent.

Oof

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My buddy who is an Alabama fan just showed me some responses about 2021 QB Drake Maye's recent commitment to Alabama where they were watching his film and multiple Bama fans commented on "receiver #11" or "#11" he is throwing to...

That #11 is current Hokie from 2019 class Elijah Bowick. I know it doesn't mean much, but probably a cool tidbit that multiple guys who watch all these Bama recruits film were immediately drawn to him and hopeful they would offer (not knowing he's already enrolled from the 19 class).

Way to close Mack! Couldn't land the legacy recruit - son of Mark Maye, brother of Luke Maye.

Bowick looked good at the spring game. Big frame. Physical and athletic.

I was super late to the boat watching his film. I didn't watch it until around the second signing day and I was pretty blown away. He'a built like a college athlete already and great body control.

Think he's going to get bigger? like grow into being a TE?

I'll say it again just like on signing day, I would put this last class of WR's against anybody in the country. Bowick and Pickeney are going to be stellar possession receivers, Robinson is severely underrated as most know, and Payoute is a burner to take the top of the defense. It's a shame Wiggins wont be here to see his true 8 deep WR unit thrive this year and beyond.

I agree they all have potential although I think Bowick has a chance to be the best all around football player of the 4.

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We got a new crystal ball prediction from Evan Watkins: Stephen Sings, 6'4 225 defensive end from North Carolina. 247 rates him a three star .86 overall. Would be a good get at an obvious position of need.

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Inject it straight into my veins

I'm strictly in "I'll believe it when i see it" mode with Virginia Tech recruiting.

15 Straight

BuT iT's Only A tHrEe StAr

Outspoken team cake advocate. Hates terrapins. Resident Macho Man Gif Poster. Distant cousin to Dork Magic. Frequently misspells words.

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Using /s is for cowards.

Thats cool...I wonder if he Dances too..

He also had a crystal ball in for Powell and I think CRS ๐Ÿ‘€

Recruit Prosim

Hey it's only half time for those 2, just imagine Florida going 6-6 and UNC going 2-10 and Fuente taking us to the ACC Championship game

I know the secondary is an area of concern. Would we be interested?

Clemson friends tell me UNC, GT, Auburn the first thoughts. No idea where their info is from though.

UNC bound. In portal for less than 24. Yea no tampering going on there.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

No worries. the NCAA always handles this type of behavior from UNC with a heavy hand. Once this is proven, there will be serious consequences for their actions.

O shit UNC Asheville is screwed.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I was thinking nc state would get the shaft come basketball season

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Bryce Watts just got some nice competition =)

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

Can you transfer twice in one season? /s

Asa Martin is back in the transfer portal so at least once per season.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

There's some 2020 ๐Ÿ”ฎ๐Ÿ”ฎ in from Watkins