"I think it was all fun and games early on. It was, 'Awww, isn't that sweet?' and all that stuff. I don't know about walls, but I am kinda like Osama Bin Dabo," Swinney said with a laugh. "I have to navigate my way through the caves and back channels to make my way through Alabama these days. They aren't as happy to see me. But it's all good. It's a good problem."
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