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After beating Bama at their home turf LSU players go up the where the bama croots are sitting and tell them to change their mind about where they want to go...👀👀🔥🔥🔥🔥

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In the words of Coach O - ROLL TIDE, FUCK YOU

Probably a little out of place for my comment, but I was actually kind of upset that what Coach O said in the locker room made it outside of the locker room walls. Those speeches are special moments and ones that the team - and the team only - should be privy to.

Coach O is a National Treasure. I can pull for LSU with that man at the helm.

They just need to provide the video without the subtitles. We wouldn't be able to understand him anyway.

No I think that both of those thoughts can coexist.

What he said is perfect in every way, and he is truly one of the great stories of a coach getting himself personally and professionally together, returning home and having his home state school on brink of the highest of highs in the sport.

And also you can regret that a special moment between coach and team was shared in a way that was clearly not planned by the staff.

He's the best.

Is salty the right word here lmao?

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

When you beat someone, and you're the one saying "Fuck You!", yeah, that's some salt.

If it were Alabama saying that, that would be salt then...this is not salt, more sweet than salty.

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Yeah, they just won and it comes out in a moment of excitement. It wasn't scripted, so I wouldn't necessarily say it's salty. Just exuberant.

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Uh...no. Thats not salty. Salty is derived from tears. You are mad about something. LSU has no tears here. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what salty means.

I think when you win and your comment is "Fuck You", you've been holding some resentment for some time.

This is some salt that has been held for a while.

I know we don't have a true rival lately, but LSU-Bama is a pretty darn big one. You don't have to hold it in for a awhile...it's everyday. That' doesn't mean they are salty, it means they are relishing in their victory.

Put it this way, does it take much for you to say eff loluva, or wvu, or ecu? Would that be salty???

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

If UVa were to beat VT, and Bronco said, "Fuck You, Hokie Bird!", yeah, I'd classify that as salt.

But I wouldn't expect that from Bronco. Nardouchy, yes, but not Bronco.

Because Nardouchy is salty in general. Bronco, not so much.

Actually. I'd say that is umami. Wait...no actually sour. Sweet? I've run out of taste descriptors.

There's a word for it...

Oh, yeah. Salty.

No no...certainly not that one. Hmm.

Serious question, since when the hell does salty = crying/whining?

When referring to a person, salty has always meant providing biting, coarse commentary. As in that salty NCO.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of what salty means.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

wee woo wee woo generation gap alarm

Urban Dictionary: Salty

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

As a millennial, allow me a salty retort.

Get the hell off my lawn.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

also as a millennial.... how did you not know the current colloquial usage???

I think i first started hearing "salty" around 2006 which means It's old enough to be in middle school and have anxiety issues and make jokes about eating tide pods to trigger uptight news networks!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I've only really noticed it the past few years. But just because I've heard it, doesn't mean I have to accept it. Especially, when it has a completely opposite meaning.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

You don't have to be so butthurt salty about it

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Hey, guy!!! Don't bother me while I'm watching The Flintstones having a gay ol' time.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

edit i am a ding dong

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

We are pretty much all millenials here lmao. Thats what salty means. You get salty when you are mad about something. In this case, bama would be salty. LSU being "sore winners" is NOT being salty.

You don't have to be upset to be salty.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

In the modern definition, yes you do. It's the guy that is holding back tears and yelling obscenities at you as you leave their stadium with a win. That's the quintessential salt. His tears taste salty.

may i share an example?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This is the perfect example.

Yes.

But also, if UVa beat VT, and Bronco said "Fuck you, VT!!!", it would be the salty residue built up over years.

Yes, that would also be salty.

I still worship the old gods. And they tell me you're not co-opting my snarky salt.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

Coach O's rant is little more than a 5-year plan of how they plan on overtaking Alabama's program, accentuated by a frustrated exclamation of it being so. The "little brother" is strong with that one.

They won the game, but they are still behind in that war.

He's definitely salty.

4 informal : feeling or showing resentment towards a person or situation : BITTER

Least ye forget about:

3 a: PIQUANT
b: EARTHY, CRUDE
salty language

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

Yeah id say thats bitter. Not salty.

You're drawing an awfully fine line for a slang term meaning "butt hurt".

It's going to be awkward when Bama makes the playoffs and wins the championship this year. Wonder if LSU tears are as sweet as UGA tears?

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

A lose is all it takes sometimes for these super talented teams to turn it up a notch.

2011 all over again.

If Bama makes it in, it's not too hard to see that happening. Alabama made about as many mistakes as they possibly could in the first half, most of them unforced, and they lost by 5. I doubt LSU wants to test their luck again that Tua will bizarrely fumble inside their 10 without any contact.

Unfortunately for bama, they have seriously beaten nobody.

Clemson will likely finish with the same best win (A&M) as Alabama by all advanced metrics, with Alabama having the opportunity to also finish with a potentially higher ranked win as well over Auburn on the road.

The only difference is that Clemson is in a weak conference with no true contender, especially not in their division. Alabama has LSU in their division. I'm okay with you using that argument, but Clemson will likely make it in having beaten nobody better than Alabama's best win (likely Auburn), and they won't have a loss because they didn't have to play another contender.

It's really why I could care less about divisions/conference championships in regards to the Playoff. These conferences aren't remotely equal, and they, like divisions, are just determined loosely on geography, where one conference has most of the schools who care the most about football and have most of the talent.

Alabama would easily be in the playoff, undefeated with Clemson's schedule, the difference is their path is harder every year because they have to go through LSU this year, Auburn, and Georgia (other years in SECCG or as crossovers). Clemson has for three straight years waltzed in, largely unopposed outside of a fluke loss that won't hurt them.

Which brings me to my next point. Georgia still completely controls their own destiny because of geographically constructed divisions with a TERRIBLE loss to a struggling USCe team, but Bama loses to #1/2 LSU by 5 and they are totally out? How does that make sense?

Clemson went into the playoff ranked NUMBER 1 in 2017 with a loss to 4 win Syracuse, why on earth would losing to an elite team by 5 be more damning to your playoff chances than losing to USCe or 4 Win Syracuse? That doesn't make any sense to me. By the way, USCe will likely finish as 4 win team as well.

It's so fucking dumb to me that it's better to lose to a 4 win team than to another title contender, especially when some teams *COUGH* CLEMSON *COUGH* don't ever have to play another contender on their way to the playoff.

That is why I don't give a shit about division/conference arguments like this in regards to 1 loss teams.

The only advantage that I could say Clemson would have over Bama is that CFP committee has said that they value a team having won their conference if all else is equal

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

That's what I'm saying, and that's why it's so stupid. Georgia, LSU, and Alabama are all in the same conference in each other's way.

The best chance Clemson has at a quality ACCCG opponent is us running the table, and then they will be playing a team who lost to Duke at home by 35... It's not even close. Does anyone think Bama wouldn't coast into the playoff 13-0 with Clemsons' schedule? That's why I think over-valuing conference/division stuff is silly.

Your method would eliminate most of the teams in the preseason. It strips the sport of its competitiveness and reduces it to a game for the elite. No method will be perfect but at least with the current system every team has a shot at something great before the season kicks off. And if blind homer hope is removed, honestly this sport would suck for most of us.

Except it is bias only that makes you say they are in each others way. If Bama was any other team we would be saying well they had their chance and blew it. Because we think Bama is a top 3 team, we say well they only lost to another top 3 team. It is sports and winning has to mean something.

I say this absolutely believing everything you have said. But, if we had a 16 team playoff and Bama lost an early upset round, we wouldn't say well they deserve another chance. With only 4 teams, the season is part of the playoff.

I would be absolutely fine with Bama being left out but I suspect they will be 1 of 4 at the end.

The first rule of Fight Club is we don't talk about turkey leg votes

But, if we had a 16 team playoff and Bama lost an early upset round, we wouldn't say well they deserve another chance.

The problem is the SEC is the conference where they currently are in a 16 team playoff.

To win a National Championship this year, IF we are assuming Alabama is OUT of the playoff with a loss to LSU, then their path to the playoff is really:

Ro16 = BEAT LSU
QF = BEAT GEORGIA
SF = CFP
Title = CFP

Not every team has to do that. Clemson's path to a national championship is win two playoff games, no contenders in their path before that. They are playing a 4 team playoff, while Alabama is being held to the standard of a 16 team playoff. It's just not the same, and it's only because Clemson plays in a weaker conference.

...The conferences which by the way are loosely based on geography. Like I can't stress enough that Georgia controls their own destiny with a far worse loss because Athens is further east than Tuscaloosa.

We control our own destiny because we don't play in the Atlantic.

New England has an easier path to the playoffs nearly every year.

Sometimes it isn't always "fair". But, everyone wants to know they have a shot. Should Bama be left out, they had their shot. What do we do the year that we "think" the top 4 SEC teams are the best?

The first rule of Fight Club is we don't talk about turkey leg votes

I've been waiting for someone to hypothesize 3 sec teams getting in this year. Just an lsu loss to georgia away.

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It'll take more than that. I don't think they'd leave out an undefeated Clemson and anOSU. Clemson would have to drop one or anOSU would have to not win the Big Ten. I can see them squeezing in if they lose at Michigan, but still win the conference.

The funny thing is... if Bama and UGa win out and if Ohio State wins out, Clemson could lose the ACC championship game (to us, of course) and that would put 3 SEC teams in the playoffs along with OSU.

We'd be the reason 3 SEC teams get into the playoffs.

Not saying we're going to beat Clemson or even get the ACCCG, but that scenario would be...I don't even know what to call that.

Expensive, for the ACC.

Bonus cash, for the SEC.

And at some point it will cycle around again where Florida State is good, so Clemson has to contend with that, while LSU will suck again and Alabama will just steamroll over them every November.

It's not unlike much of the late 2000s-early 2010s where the two best teams in the ACC were stuck in the same division (VT/GT, and then FSU/Clemson).

Not all conferences are created equal. Just like not all teams are created equal. Those are just intrinsic truths to the lack of parity in CFB. The best we can do to normalize things is just go by record. If not that, then what? We just let teams play and run advanced stats all season and have a computer spit out a top 4 based on objective facts? Maybe. All I know is thatiIf you are an undefeated conference champ in the P5, you will unequivocally make the playoffs. There have been and will never be an exception to that rule, minus all conferences having such a winner. This is something that every conference can start their season knowing and at least know that there is a path to get them to the playoffs. Otherwise we are going to cut out half the teams in the preseason simply based on schedules.

Unfortunately there just aren't enough games in the year to do away with conferences. Scheduling would be a nightmare. Bama might be the victim of conference inequality this year, but it has aided them in the past. You take the good with the bad.

I agree with your major points, however I would note that if Clemson and Alabama both have the same best win, but Alabama has played a better team and lost, the benefit of the doubt should then go to Clemson given that they have yet to lose to that better team. I'm not a big fan of giving a team a second chance to beat another team. Let someone else try.

I'd like to see the playoff expand so that more teams have a shot. A lot happens during the season including injuries, player progression/regression, etc. It's difficult to argue with statistics and schedules and what ifs. Let them play it out on the field. It seems like every year we can't agree on who should be in or out. It would be nice to have a quantifiable path to the CFP other than going undefeated in a P5 conference, which I would still argue only gives you a 75% change depending on the conference.

Literally all it's going to take is Ohio State or Oklahoma not winning their conference championship and Bama is in. We know how this works.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Now, remember Ohio State has lost their conference championship before and still been in. Clemson beat anOSU 33-0 that year.

Yeah I'm just not convinced the committee would put 1-loss OSU over 1-loss Bama, even if the situation in the comment below occurs.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

If Minny beats Ohio State with 1 loss to Iowa or Wisconsin then they'd be in over Bama

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Teeheehee this makes me giggle. This is the kind of harmless pettiness that I love. Not breaking rocks and killing trees.

We say this to UVA recruits constantly but they still don't learn

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Well they've already committed to UVA so maybe they can't learn

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anybody got foster's call out to london's boys in 2011?

I been here since day 0.

Can you clarify what happened here? I don't recall what occurred.

after stomping mudholes all over lane statium north in 2011, foster had a few parting words for their recruits, to the effect of "you can get down with the Hokies or lay down with this sorry bunch up here" (sic)

i want the full quote (better yet, a sound byte) if anyone can find it.

I been here since day 0.

Barstool Sports making a living off of some non-paid athletes but the kids are petty? Ok

The word "petty" doesn't have the negative connotations these days, at least with younger people. Barstool isn't insulting them.

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Virginia Tech fanatic.

I'm thinking you are misinterpreting the connotation of the title.

Maybe you can enlighten me?

"Petty" is used these days to say someone is doing something petty but in a manner that is funny and acceptable. It's not used an insult like it used to be.

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I guess that makes sense. Just seemed like a jab from Barstool to me. I'm not that old, promise!

Petty is positive here. Pettiness in college sports has almost always been a positive attribute that people love. It's not aggressive, hurtful, or too serious. The pettiness is fun.

Now, "trifling" on the other hand...

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Petty. Salty. Trifling.

You kids are outta wack.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
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