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Figure that, given Stephen F Austin's win in Durham over #1 Duke tonight, it's worth starting this up.

So far, looks to be a crazy year.

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That ending may be one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Stone Cold Stephen F. Austin

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

Duke hadn't lost a home game against a non ACC team since February 26, 2000

There are TKP members younger than that, wow!

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Duke hadn't lost at home to an unranked non power-5 conference team since January 5, 1983.

Hell, that streak almost qualified for GenX status

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We didnt exactly need Angry Duke on December 6th but Coach K is going to murder these guys the next few weeks.

Ya hate to see it

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Ya hate to see this, too

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I think UVA is overrated this year. Probably still a decent team, particularly on defense, but not number 5. Maybe 25. Of course, Perdue should have ended the Yahoo's tourney run last year.

They will go 17-3 in the ACC, be at worst a 2 seed in the dance. When you foul every defensive possession and get away with it, you win a lot of games.

See VCU and Smart's Havoc crap. Foul on every defensive possession, and usually more than one.

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UVA has been top 3 in every defensive metric under Bennett. I'm sure he knows something every other coach doesn't know about teaching defense. Yep.

Bob Huggins is far more refined at it - foul on every play, then whine about every. single. call. No matter what.

I often ponder who is worse - Narduzzi or Huggins.

He hasn't changed one bit from his old Metro days with Cincinnati. Abusive prick I used to love to hate and heckle when they came to the Cassell. Well, he has put on a hundred pounds or so, but other than that

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Or in the act of passing you get a blocking foul and get to shoot 2 free throws.

Hopefully that brings them all back down to earth and in to the hole they crawled out of

Their defending is still elite but they've lost so much offense they've been struggling to put up points all year so far

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Uva has no offense blah blah... Still feels good to see them fucking lose. Eat it Wahoos.

No surprise, there. Last year was a total fluke.

A total fluke? I don't think "a total fluke" team wins a National Championship... They had all the right pieces in place to make a run, just as all other past National Championship teams. Great teams find ways to win games, and that's what UVA did last year.

Having said that, this year's team is a new team, and they are going to need to find new ways to win.

True, but if the moron who ran out and left his feet on a desperation 3 with .9 seconds left in the game knew how to play basketball, they wouldn't have won. That, or if Purdue could get a defensive rebound in the last 8 minutes of the game last year- just one.

No shit... thanks. I was exaggerating.

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The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

it's a global warming peer review!

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I don't think the team was a "total fluke", but there were 3 tournament games they had lost yet by some miraculous series of events/terrible calls/plays they won those games.

It's like Frank Beamer used to say: "You have to be good, and you have to be lucky." UVA was both last year.

Is it basketball season yet?

Yep but we can look at a lot of instances in every sport and there are certainly those moments where if things hadn't gone a certain way, that years' National Champion wouldn't have been in the position to win. Shoot, take a look at the '99 WVU game for us. That game goes WVU's way, and we're not even in New Orleans at the end of the season. Agree with your comment 100%

I agree, but my point is that UVA needed a TON of luck/magic/help from officials. The '99 VT-WVU game only needed two players to make the biggest plays of their careers up to that point (Vick & Graham)

Is it basketball season yet?

I have to agree with you. UVA had great scoring threats last year....Jerome, Guy, and Hunter all could go for 20-25 on any given day. They were the most complete basketball team in the country last year.

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I dont think last years team winning was a fluke. They had 3 really talented guys. I think having 3 talent guys was a fluke. In the last 4 years we've out recruited UVA, it's just that one year that won them the championship.

UVA winning last year was not a fluke. Bennett is a helluva coach and as much as I dislike UVA winning, I can't dislike Bennett. They did get very lucky in a couple tournament games though.

I wasnt trying to take anything away from Bennetts coaching. He is a really good coach.

However, based on 247 ratings, the players that led them to a championship was a fluke. UVA hasnt been getting recruiting classes like that one. It's like VT and Vick. We haven't had a player like him before or since (because Lamar Jackson is the only player since that is like him). It was a fluke that we got him (thank you Ronald Curry). But it's not a fluke that we went to the championship game because we had Vick and that defense.

Meanwhile this year with Keihi Clark, Key and Diakite they will win 90% of their acc games in the toughest league in the country. It's hard to win games scoring 42 points.

They are a seriously flawed team that can win 18 this year because the league is HISTORICALLY bad... the first NET ranking have UNC at 94, UVa at 39. There are 4 teams in the top 50. Its brutal

will win 90% of their acc games in the toughest league in the country

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I wasn't disagreeing with your post. I think you are correct, just adding my 2 cents.

Vince Young and RGIII would like a word with you, but I agree with your point about Vick.

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Vick never got caught from behind, Young got caught from behind by a DE atleast once and by DBs a fair amount. Young also didn't have that ability to get almost tackled and then slip away. He could break away with strength but Vick just slipped out some how. Lamar did similar things.

I really dont remember RG3 a lot which is odd. I remember reading about him as a freshman and thinking that 110 high hurdles is probably more football related that a 100m sprint. So his track speed was more apllicable.

What do you mean based on 247 ratings? That they didn't have Top 25 rated prospects?

Teams that recruit those 1-and-done players aren't always going to be successful.. it's a roll of the dice to try and build a bunch of rookies into a cohesive team. The other path to success in college basketball is to recruit a rotation loaded with 4-stars and sprinkle in some role players who excel at their particular role, and then develop them all over several years into a talented, veteran team.

UVA's core players who averaged 15+ mpg were mostly upperclassmen (5 of 7), and mostly top100 prospects (5 of 7). Clark (defensive specialist vs quick PG's) and Salt (PF screen machine) were both 3-stars but excelled at their specific roles, the other 5 primary contributors were top 100 recruits. And they had a top 100 recruit (Huff) on their deep bench.

CG - Jerome (#44, JR)
SG - Guy(#37, JR)
PG - Clark - #300+, FR) - role player
SF - Hunter (#91, SO)
SF - Key (#59, JR)
PF - Salt - (#300+, SR) - role player
PF - Diakite (#32, JR),

Our team last season was a similar build... the core group playing 15+ mpg was mostly top 100ish 4-stars (5/6) who were mostly (4/6) upperclassmen. And it so happened to be the best VT team in decades. The key difference to my eye, between our team and UVA's was our role players weren't as good at their role compared to UVA's, and we had our 7th core player (Clarke) suspended and a talented FR who may have contributed (Nolley) ruled ineligible.

PG - Robinson (#103, SR)
PG - Bede (#70, SO)
SG - NAW (#40, SO)
SG - Hill (#62, rSR)
SF - Outlaw (JUCO, rSR ) - role player
PF - Blackshear (#121, rJR)

plus
SG - Wilkins (#300+, FR) - role player <15 mpg
PF - Horne (#200+, SO) - role player <15 mpg

plus
SF - Clarke (#62, rJR) - suspended
SF - Nolley (#67, FR) - ineligible

based on the class rankings UVA doesnt recruit as well as say VT. Bennetts system gets lower rated guys that fit what he wants to do. But at some point he needs players. He got that class once. He can win a lot of games without offense, but some times you have to have offense, like play a #16 seed. They were offensively better last season than the once before because that highly ranked class was better.

Jesus what happened to the ACC basketball this year? They look awful overall.

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I don't know the answer to that, but I do know right now we are in 1st place in the ACC

It's the first week of December. Give it a minute.

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Two top 10 tens losing by double digits one to an unranked team even in December is something I haven't seen out of the ACC before.

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I mean the best team in the B1G got their asses whooped by an unranked team that plays 6 freshman and 0 seniors...

This is partly a case of rankings versus truth. Rankings are done by people that may or may not invest much time in them. Fairly easy to make a list early in the year and not change it much going forward until the system sees something shocking.

If you look at the BPI metrics, it actually had unranked Purdue rated 17th and favored by 1 to beat UVA because of home court advantage.

The second game of UNC and Ohio State I rack up to the "Things a Freshman hasn't experienced yet" Ohio State played well but UNC shot the ball egregiously bad even beyond that. Held to 27% shooting from the field on the night. The only real shock to me was that this was at home for UNC but hey Got to keep up with Duke losing to SF Austin at home right. Tar Heels are relying on three freshmen, a sophomore, a junior and a senior for their top 6 spots. Just going to have these kind of nights.

Bigger surprise to me was just the lack of close games overall. Every game was decided by double digits, which means whoever decided the matchups did a poor job of projecting competitive basketball. The closest game was Pittsburgh beating Rutgers by 11.

The game I was most shocked by result wise was actually Florida State losing to Indiana and not having seen the game I am left to think the officials played a major role considering that both teams hit 25 shots from the field and 7 three pointers each. FREE THROWS THOUGH - 7 of 16 for FSU compared to 23-38 for Indiana. The entire 16 point win was from the free throw line.

Gather your rosebuds while ye may. We're number 1!!! We're number 1!!!

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Clearly the only reason the ACC didn't win the Challenge is because they had UVa instead of VT playing in it this year.....

I'll let you be the judge on how /s that statement is

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We won our big10 matchup this year. We beat Michigan State.

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Hey UVA:

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Regarding uva....

Last year's uva was different than usual, they had 3 bigtime shot makers and scorers (Hunter, Guy, Jerome).

Now it's back to the same old same old uva. No offense whatsoever. Through 8 games, their highest scoring total was 65 points and they have been under 50 points in 4 of their 8 games!

Like my friend says, they run the same offense he played in middle school. They'll end up with a good record because of their great defense, but they have the potential to get blown out by a team that can make tough shots. I expect an early exit in March from them.

Disagree, they will win 15-17 ACC games and be a very high seed in March. The AAC team they play in the second round will score 38 points. I see Sweet 16 at least for them. ACC teams magically shoot 25% when they play UVA... that translate to a lot of losses.

Well... They've played nothing but mid level teams and one of them beat them by 30. Vermont had one high level player get hot and nearly single handedly beat them because they can't score. UNC may not be higher than a 7 if they even make the tourney. They win 15 because the league is historically bad this year.

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but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Disagree. Before last year's run, they became pretty well known for early exits, aside from the loss to Syracuse in the Elite Eight (which was embarrassing as far as Elite Eight losses go). They caught lightning in a bottle last season and made the most of it. Kudos to them for that, but early exits will be the norm again until they can bring in three great players again.

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I have a feeling UNC might actually kinda suck at basketball this year.

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Yeah, they're....not good

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They have Cole Anthony and literally nothing else. We thought we were in trouble with Nolley being our only threat, but I think they're even worse off.

If they don't get a lot better very soon, ACC play could pop their tournament bubble this year.

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..and they are without Anthony (knee) 'indefinitely'. Greenberg says they are not a tourney team at this point.

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but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Oh thy are in serious trouble

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Wofford over UNCheat in the Deandome, the Schadenfreude is strong with this one.

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The game wasn't actually at the Dean Dome it was held in 'Carmichael' whatever that is.

Carmichael is the arena they used before the Smith Center. Seating capacity was 10k when they played there (now just under 7k) and is the current home of their women's basketball program as well as wrestling and a couple others. From 1965 to 1986 UNC had a record of 169-20 in Carmichael.

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Why do they play their instead of the Dean Dome sometimes? Is it when they are expecting a smaller crowd?

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It's the first time they've played there in a while. But it's the same reason that NC State still plays a game at Reynolds Coliseum every year, for the nostalgia. They are truly historic arenas in this area that are fondly remembered by their fans, so it becomes a special event to play there. They do play lesser opponents in these games in the same reason you schedule a patsy for homecoming in football.

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Dean Dome was being used for fall graduation

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but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Wiseman is out from memphis and has signed with an agent talk about a blow for memphis youch.

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So UK has lost two games to unranked teams? They might actually fall out of top 10.

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UVA has now lost to two unranked teams as well and should drop in the rankings. Our resumes are starting to look similar heading into our matchup.

Dec. 23 AP Poll is out. We are one of 5 ACC teams that received votes. The others are #3 Louisville, #4 Duke, #16 UVA, and #17 FSU.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay