Got to give Fuente some props - Re QP

I was watching the game with other Philly Alumni tonight and when Hooker went down we all thought we would lose when Willis was inserted into the lineup. I will give him props for the TD throw. He came out and the offense stalled in the second half.

I never once thought that Fuente would put him in, but everyone I was sitting with agreed that the offense doesn't work right without the QB being a threat to run.

I'm still surprised QP went in there. Fuente had his game 1 opening starting QB out there and actually pulled him for his 3rd sting QB. That takes a ton of courage to do and it was the right move and I'm glad he did it and it worked out.

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Yeah, the decision to toss QP in was surprising but necessary. But honestly I was even more surprised that they sent him in there and didn't ask him to run the same gameplan, and instead tailored the playcalling around his talents. Obviously I wish they'd let him throw a bit more, because he looked surprisingly accurate in his limited attempts save for one, but in the end we won by him taking care of the ball and running like a bulldozer while the defense stepped up and made huge plays every time it was absolutely necessary.

I agree, but there a slant he threw a little behind and the pass calls near stopped. Be interested to see French's take but most of the throws seemed safe and even QP mentioned the fade to Hazelton is something they rep a lot in practice. I think the drop off speaks to Corn/Fu not knowing how wild a third stringer might be

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that slant you are reffering too (live) looked like the WRs ran it incorrectly, it was a slant/wheel combo and the wheel usually goes behind the slant to kinda pick the defender from what I saw the wheel went in front and the guy running the slant didn't finish the route because he was looking for the wheel but it was gone already. looked like a busted route combo to me and quincy threw based on the read if it would have been ran correctly or even if the WR kept running full speed through the slant would have been open.

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Mad props to Fuente for pulling Willis out for Quincy "Pattering Ram" Patterson but it was honestly a no-brainer for me after Willis made that stupid throw/intentional grounding play that took VT out of Field Goal range. You guys were absolutely right, this offense does not work without a running threat QB.

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Yeah that sealed it for me too. He could have just thrown the ball out right there. That was maddening.

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Quincy "Pattering Ram" Patterson

The nickname market for QP is going to be fun. AB tweeted this out after a couple second half series and I couldn't stop calling QP Mr. Plow in my head afterwards.

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That gif is priceless. The way the mailbox falls over is probably the funniest part about it. I love me some old school simpsons.

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Game over.

"That's it guys. Let's get out of here. That cold drink's waitin' on us, let's go." - Mike Young after win no. 300.

Let's also admire the beauty of QP's touchdown to Hazelton. Almost identical to Hooker's toss to Hazelton in the Miami game

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I really wish they had taken the training wheels off and let QP throw a bit more, but that pass alone was amazing.

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It's twists my brain into knots that they go conservative with QP in the game, not letting him throw. Then in that 4th and 3 situation with the game on the line, you call a motherfucking fade to the end zone. Don't get me started on a rant about fades (worst and laziest play in football) and by the numbers how its a terrible decision. Just think about how they won't let him pass for the vast majority of his snaps yet THAT is the play call they go with. A hard throw make that has a low percentage of success. One that requires absolute pinpoint precision to pull off.

And he nailed it.

Yeah they never really ran the screens or drag routes to get him warmed up. His first completion was an out route to Hazelton, also one of the hardest throws to make.

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Wasn't that Hazelton's second 1 handed TD grab of the game, with the first being the throw from Willis? Hazelton blows my mind sometimes with his skill and athleticism.

Yes. The other part was that if you watch closely the UNC defender is firmly holding Damon's right wrist through the entire play even after he catches it in the end zone and they signal TD. Helluva play as it was a desperate play by their DB.

Did they flag the UNC defender for it? I didn't think they did when watching live last night and the replay showed them holding hands through the endzone

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Yup saw that. Just was pointing out for those that might not have caught that what a big play it was because even if we get the penalty we still have to score. Damon took care of that in spite of the ridiculous PI

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Cornelson's playcalling almost cost us the game.

I think you mean we won in spite of Corny. His play calls are still maddening. But if your athletes can out athlete their athletes = win.

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...or just barely helped us win the game. I guess it's how you look at it.

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It's twists my brain into knots that they go conservative with QP in the game, not letting him throw. Then in that 4th and 3 situation with the game on the line, you call a motherfucking fade to the end zone.

Andy Bitter had a quote from QP in his post game report (can't quote b/c paywall, so I'm paraphrasing) where QP basically said that the 4th & 3 play call was one of the first plays Fuente/Corny installed for him, and that it's the passing play he's most comfortable with.

I unfortunately couldn't watch the game, and didn't see the play, and I understand that a fade is a low percentage play, but it's the play the QB was most comfortable with, to (arguably) the best receiver on the team. Sounds to me like it was the best play call possible given the personnel and circumstances.

EDIT: since everyone says I can share the comments (emphasis mine):

But when Tech faced a do-or-die situation in the second overtime, down 41-34 and facing fourth-and-3 from UNC's 18 after three consecutive Patterson runs, the Hokies dialed up a play they knew he could handle, a "Day 1 installation" throw, Fuente said. Max protected, he calmly dropped a dime to Hazelton in the end zone for an 18-yard touchdown to extend the game.

"When they called the play, I knew it was a touchdown at that point," Patterson said. "It's something we practice all the time. It's something the coaches were comfortable calling. I remember throwing it and kind of just looked at our signal guy for like five seconds and walked up eventually. I was trying to stay calm. It's easy to get jumpy in the moment."

To me, this seems like the best possible play call.

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Not really paywall stuff, it's in the post-game press conference. QP said he knew it was a Touchdown as soon as he got the play called in to him before he even snapped the ball. I love his confidence.

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I'm not entirely sure they were "going conservative." A lot of what they were running looked like the single-wing, which is the same offense QP ran in high school IIRC. Letting your freshman QB run plays he's familiar with is generally a good idea.

He's not a true freshman though. It's not like he got on campus in August and just found his playbook. He's been at Tech long enough to where he should be comfortable at least attempting passes. People need to stop sugarcoating everything for Fuente and Corny based on the end result of a specific game. A spade is a spade. They called a conservative game, likely too conservative. QP doesn't have to be Peyton Manning out there, but it wouldn't kill us to have him toss it around just a bit more. It also would be fair to say their being overly conservative bordered on coaching scared, passing up several instances where most teams would go for it but instead, we turtled up acting as if QP is some kind of walking disaster of a turnover waiting to happen if you shifted from 1st gear to 2nd.. We still managed to win, which is fun and great and all, but the in game coaching still left a ton to be desired and it wasn't just because we had Quincy Patterson out there.

In the few balls QP threw he put them where they needed to be. Coaches didn't give him enough credit. I get that he might not have a lot of reps but you can't back yourself into a one dimensional offense. I don't think it's a "he doesn't know the playbook thing" I think it's a "coaches don't trust him" thing. Which is extremely disappointing.

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Yup. He only threw 6 passes and 4 of them were on the money.

I think you're right that its definitely the latter, they don't trust him. He does have good zip on his balls and the the accuracy more often than not was catchable. There's enough there to where he could do more than what he was tasked with. TBF, there were a few pass plays called where he made a quick read and immediately tucked it to run when he had more time. So I do know they did call some pass plays, it's just there could have been more. Maybe that'll be enough to wake Fuente and Corny up and be more trusting going forward

They don't trust Patterson but they do trust Willis, even though Willis screams "don't trust me!!!" with every pass he flings into coverage.

You must have missed where they pulled Willis out

How much credit do you get for fixing a clogged toilet when you clogged the toilet in the first place by dropping shoes in the toilet?

Isn't this ignoring that Patterson has a different skillset than Willis though? The running game was abysmal with Willis under center so we were often behind the chains and had to pass more. On the other hand, our running game was actually effective against UNC with Patterson's skillset and it appeared that we could stay on schedule without having to pass. A huge problem was that Keene fumbled on 3rd and 2, we had a fumbled exchange on 3rd and 1, and we also had a Nester false start on 3rd and 5. Those 3 untimely gaffes killed 3 drives.

I think there are some legitimate gripes about not attempting a Hail Mary at the end of the game and perhaps the playcalling in 2OT and 3OT but still I can see why we did what we did. In 2OT, we had a 3rd and 12 and not gaining any yards there would've left us with a 45 yard FG. In 3OT, we only needed a FG to win so that tends to lean toward a conservative call as well. In my mind, the bigger issue is that we seemingly can't prepare our FG kickers to make anything over 40 yards.

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That cuts both ways though. We were picking up chunk yards on 1st/2nd down and moving the chains. When he threw the skinny post Incompletion to Tre, that was on 1st down. And we got behind then we had 2nd long / 3rd long. I thought it was a masterful plan, with the exception of only designed QB runs in OT. The UNC D was selling out on that. I think he'd have had some room with a drop back pass, get the LBs to cover the flat, then have QP4 throttle up inside.

He put that ball right where it needed to be though. Tre couldn't hang on. Can't single that play out when it should've been a catch.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I'm in no way blaming him for it. It was a good throw. And it was a good play call.

But, the result of that falling incomplete is that we weren't able to get ahead of the sticks on 1st down, which was the key to our 2nd half success with QP. That killed that drive.

As I understand it, if a player drops a pass, that's somehow still on the coaches though, right?

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No, QP is not a true freshman and he has had the playbook and has been in the practices, However, almost everyone will say time spent in the a real game against real opponents is pretty different.

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It also would be fair to say their being overly conservative bordered on coaching scared, passing up several instances where most teams would go for it but instead, we turtled up acting as if QP is some kind of walking disaster of a turnover waiting to happen if you shifted from 1st gear to 2nd.

I don't understand what instances you believe we should have gone for it outside of a Hail Mary at the end of regulation. 4th and 2 from our own 49 in a tie game? 4th and 2 from our own 39 in a tie game? Because I do not agree at all that "most teams would go for it" in either of those situations.

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I think another reason the coaches were ok calling it was the possibility of a free first down from defensive pass interference.

TBH, with QP running the offense as well as he was, it makes me question how he wasn't the game 1 starter. Is Fuente not good at evaluating game vs. practice talent? Loyalty/keeping his word to Willis? Has he progressed quickly since the start of this season? Is he worried QP leading a losing team would damage his psyche and stunt his growth?

It's clear QP has the raw talent to run the offense, and it bothers me that he could gained valuable experience by being the starter this whole season. Just makes me wonder what CJF's thinking was.

Also off topic, but that OT play calling was....OOOOF.

It's clear QP has the raw talent to run the offense

that OT play calling was....OOOOF.

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Honestly the skinny post to Turner in the first OT was a great aggressive playcall that didn't quite work which left us behind schedule, and staying on schedule was key for the offense in the second half.

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Play calling is probably limited because he was the 3rd string qb until this point and hasn't received the same amount of reps or attention

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They don't trust him to throw the ball and that's why he ran so much.

I wish he was put in situations where he was going to pass and then ran though. The designed runs were getting stale.

The training wheels were on though.

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Um, that might be a question for Hooker but QP did well in a very limited situation. He had a couple nice throws but they were one on one coverage. The throw that was almost intercepted shows he A) didnt have any other reads, or B) cant make all the reads yet. Nothing QP showed says day 1 starter. He looks like he is going to have a bright future, he has talent, but there is no way we do well with run/pass ratio 33/6.

TBH, with QP running the offense as well as he was, it makes me question how he wasn't the game 1 starter. Is Fuente not good at evaluating game vs. practice talent? Loyalty/keeping his word to Willis?

Willis reminds of the student that memorizes the answers but doesn't truly understand the concepts. Perhaps he can be pretty efficient in every day drills but not so much when he has to apply the principles in different/uncertain environments.

I don't think there was any overriding loyalty to Willis; Fu wanted Burmeister to be eligible.

I love how we have coaches that can't evaluate talent, recruit talent, develop talent and yet despite all of that these kids are still talented.

And somehow, VT still manages to win games.

People say that because we have an inordinate amount of attrition, few upper-class contributors and the current 80th ranked recruiting class. The coaches are responsible for the roster.

Yea I have the same complaints. Coaches have not yet proven that they can build/maintain a roster that is capable of winning the Coastal (much less the ACC). There are definitely some talented kids on our roster, and I acknowledge the youth, but there have been issues around imbalanced recruiting, and not replacing players that have left.

Unlike many people here, I don't have a huge problem with the in game coaching decisions (except for the fumbling thing, but I digress). I'm more concerned about our inability to out-recruit our geographic rivals (PSU, UMD, UVA, Clemson, UNC, NCst, UGA, SCar, GT) - If we want to return to the glory years, we need to out-recruit at bare minimum 4 of these 9 schools (preferably 5-6). Right now, we're probably out-recruiting UVA? Maybe NCst as well? The new defensive staff (and any other new staff) coming in this off season must be able to recruit the Mid-Atlantic and Carolina's.

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Agree- I think Fuente can coach- he does fine with clock, timeout, etc issues and he clearly knows offense and manufacturing yards.

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No point in even listing UGA, Clemson, or PSU. Those teams land recruiting classes that have never been shown to achievable at VT. I think SCar has both a higher ceiling and floor given SEC affiliation, location, and football culture. VT has been more consistent than the others you list but I believe that's largely been a result of culture and stability. I don't think we should be so eager to throw those things to the wind to chase the "big time" recruiters, who often develop a lengthy resume of positions across numerous schools for a reason.

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IMO about 90% our recruiting efforts should be spent on the east coast, from Baltimore to MD. I was just listing every P5 school that we compete with (you could probably add Pitt to that list as well).

While we don't recruit with Clemson/UGA/PSU on a macro level, on the micro level, we frequently go head to head with those three (especially Clemson and PSU). We don't need to beat them all the time, but we need to start beating them some of the time.

I don't think we should be so eager to throw those things to the wind to chase the "big time" recruiters, who often develop a lengthy resume of positions across numerous schools for a reason.

Having stability (over a 3 year period, which is the norm these days) and being a great recruiter are not mutually exclusive.

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Having stability (over a 3 year period, which is the norm these days)

Personally I wouldn't agree that 3 years qualifies as stability and that's a significant aspect of my point. Obviously it's fine if you believe otherwise but I think that's a fundamental difference in opinion here.

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I want high performers who are looking to grow. If you're jumping around jobs and learning more and more at each spot, then I want you at VT. Ideally, I'd want to build a system where we continue to promote from within. Now if someone is just chasing a pay check, and is willing to jump the moment someone gives a raise, then I agree with you.

We're not going to find another Bud Foster. If we find someone who is content being a DC for the rest of their career, they're likely going to demand a shit ton of cash, and go to the best paying school (Venables, Don Brown, Dave Aranda, etc). If we find someone with head coaching aspirations, they're going to leave at some point for an HC role. Or we get a mediocre DC for a reasonable price who does okay to decent. Of these three options, I'd prefer that VT gets the reputation that you can come here, prove yourself as a DC, and go on to be an HC somewhere else.

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I recognize your mindset from previous posts on jobs and would assume this mindset is extremely prevalent in your industry but I'm not convinced it's effective or possible for every industry or situation. I will anticipate the argument that Alabama behaves this way but my position is that they are an extremely unique position in that they are able to take on former high-level coaches as support staff, promote them to staff positions as they open up, and then the coaches generally get a solid HC job (after succeeding with the top players in the country), and the cycle continues. One of the main reasons they are able to function this way though is because of extensive support staff funding that doesn't exist for almost any other team.

For the other teams, you are limited by your ability to promote from within because most of your funding goes to paying a competitve salary for the 10 allowable full-time coaching staff positions, leaving teams without the funds to hire high-level support staff (see VT being able to afford Kill as a result of Bartelstein taking another job). Additionally, if you have a successful coach like Bud Foster, who holds out for a P5 HC position but never receives an offer, that creates a bottleneck for the upward mobility of the entire defensive coaching staff. Do you encourage Foster to leave for a lower level HC job or another DC position in that situation? Additionally, there's the issue that many position coaches might be excellent in their roles yet not suited for coordinator or HC positions. VT lost Holmon WIggins to Alabama and fans hate Cornelsen, but I didn't get the sense that fans were pushing to fire Cornelsen because they wanted to promote Wiggins.

Anyway, I don't agree the options you presented are quite as cut and dry as it sounds. How can we discount the possibility that a DC with HC aspirations might do very well but never end up leaving when we just experienced that exact situation with a DC nationally accepted to be an all-time great?

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I agree that we can't be Bama, and I don't want that. I also don't want someone like Alex Grinch, who's had 3 DC roles in 3 years. I was thinking more like Boise State, who's continuously promoted from within, with much success. Another example is Oregon's OC promotions (Chip Kelley, Mark Helfrich, Scott Frost, all promoted from within over a 10 year span) or Clemson's ability to promote from within to replace Chad Morris (although I recognize that Clemson has had stability and success unlike any other program in the modern era).

How can we discount the possibility that a DC with HC aspirations might do very well but never end up leaving when we just experienced that exact situation with a DC nationally accepted to be an all-time great?

Bud Foster is truly one of a kind, in so many ways. Maybe there is something so specially about Blacksburg that we are able to attract lifers. I'm just saying that there's not many Bud Fosters out there, so while it would be nice, we shouldn't expect our next coach to be just like him.

Going back to the original conversation; there's a lot of things the ideal DC would have: ability to recruit, ability to design and call plays, ability to develop talent, head coach aspirations, high price tag, desire to spend a career at VT, ability to develop staff, culture fit, etc. In all likelihood, there will be trade-offs when it comes to selecting Bud's replacement. Given our team's/program's weakness is recruiting, I think it would be wise to not sacrifice that skillset. If I have to pick something that we should sacrifice, I think it would be 'desire to spend entire career at VT,' because I believe that the risks here can be mitigated with the right staff and right culture.

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I literally told my fiancΓ©e who was watching the game with me that we wouldn't win by running the QB sweep all day...literally the next play was QPs 53 yard TD. I think she loved how I owned how dumb I was lol.

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Isn't this an Osprey, the same aircraft that did the flyover?

If either of these quarterbacks had started against Boston College, we would have won. I'm not sure what Hooker and QP showed the coaches in practice that didn't earn them a starting spot over Willis, but it's better late than never.

I feel for Willis. He works hard and cares about winning. He just can't get out of his own way. He wants to hit a home run every play and never not make a positive play. That mindset kept the UVA and bowl streak alive last year but is not sustainable. We need a quarterback who can not only make plays but also manage a game. We have that in Hooker and QP.

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Willis has all the physical tools to run (ha, pun) our offense. His head for whatever reason is not in the game this season though. I feel like we're seeing a player who has pyched himself out by #1 focusing too much on avoid turnovers #2 looking for big plays and that is leaving very little attention for making the basic / smart football plays. Last year Willis was playing loose, and was avoiding excessive turnovers while making some plays.

kudos to him coming in cold and dishing up a good pass to Hazelton for the TD

Doesn't help when he comes out after Hooker left and the entire stadium starts booing. Mentally that would be on a tight rope trying to stay up.

Yeah that's bullshit and shameful.

Ground Hog Day, Sean Glennon style. Glennon was a stand up guy, and guessing Willis is too. Really unfortunate to see these kids get booed like that.

Glennon was a stand up guy

Not in my, and many others', interactions with him.

Hopefully, he is a nicer person now.

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Glennon was treated like crap by a vocal contingent of this fan base. If he'd been behind any sort of O-line that allowed even a 3 step drop with some consistency, Glennon would have rewritten all the record books and we'd have won a Natty in Tyrods last year after NOT burning a redshirt to make up for the absolute sieve of an Oline we had.

If you had some personal experiences with him that were negative, you might stop to think about the situation he found himself in.

I've got nothing but respect for the man.

And let's not forget he beat Chinballs while wearing a GT jersey. That was epic.

Chinballs wasn't until 2008. That game happened in 2007.

I fully understand the situation he was in. I remember fans giving crap to Bryan Randall and he wasn't a jerk to others. Glennon didn't help himself that he often acted cocky as hell to many people. Not everyone was a dick to him, but he was quite off-putting to many people with his arrogance. I did feel for his sister who had to listen to a lot of people lambast him.

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Glennon was nice enough to people who didn't treat him like crap, though.

Randall was an awesome person in general. When they were doing some charity thing, I bought some bracelets from him and said he could hand the next 10 out, they're covered. Later that year, he recognized me and asked me how I was doing, and thanked me again for my generosity. I couldn't believe he'd remember, but he did. Cool guy.

Glennon was nice enough to people who didn't treat him like crap, though.

I'll drop it because there's no point in holding a grudge against someone for something that doesn't matter a dozen years later. I'd drink a beer with him today and would like to hear some football stories from him.

I met Randall multiple times and indeed, he was always very cool. His only downfall was I saw him go into Moe's twice in Short Pump. Poor decision making instead of hitting the Chipotle right down the street.

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Glennon was a stand up guy

Not with that OL he played behind.

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I didn't boo and I definitely didn't hear the enture stadium booing him.

Luther Maddy even called out the fans on the post game radio.

And does anybody really want to get crossways with Luther Maddy? Respect our own, Hokies.

Same. I think it was more of a large, collective groan.

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This is what I heard in Section 3 (mostly adults). Everyone was just kind of groaning and murmuring.

I also didn't boo but there were more than a few that did. Didn't last long but it was there.

I missed this (was watching on tv), was this at the end if the 1st half? Cause Hooker was injured and it was to throw a fade into the endzone, if there is a single play I trust Willis with it's that one. He can throw that ball all day long.

I didn't boo but definitely heard it behind me. I turned and yelled up to them to knock it off. You don't boo your own team.

After the Willis TD, I turned back and asked them where were the boo's now? Shitheads!

I like Ryan Willis. I think he is a tough player but that last throw he threw where he got the intentional grounding call was BS. He is a 5th year senior and after pulling that stunt Coach Fu had no other choice than to pull him. And kudos for making that call.

In the 4th quarter, laaser (or maybe it was Burnop) commented after a Sam Howell throw away: "it's amazing that a freshman knows when to throw it away to avoid a sack and yet Ryan willis as a redshirt senior hasn't learned that lesson". It was savage.

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It was true. Willis has negative football IQ. He forces passes that he shouldn't force. On that play, he had one key thing to do-- not take a sack and knock us out of FG range-- so he holds the ball too long and creates a negative play.

I respectfully disagree. I don't believe willis possesses the tool of escapability - and before someone chimes in with his 40 time being equal or faster than hooker or qp - the eye test is all you need. When plays start to break down with Willis, he is easier to tackle than the other guys. Hooker has gotten at least 7 or 8 first downs with his legs that Willis doesn't get- no way. So that for me is a glaring difference. On top of that, Willis tries to do too much.

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I think he just isn't instinctive. He has to think too much and that part just doesn't come natural for him. Indecision too often leads to a bad decision.

Both Fuente and Foster earned their pay last night.

That was a hell of a game.

And, by the way, they appear to have the buy-in of the players at this point. Everyone was playing their nuts off.

Coaches called a great game and had to change up the gameplan multiple times.

Boy, Mack Brown really screwed up several times- icing his own kicker, failing to call TO when the play clock was winding down before the FG, etc. And, they got a little gun shy when Bud brought the heat.... wonder if he'll regret that?

Mack icing his own kicker was enjoyable.

For a minute, I almost liked him.

Then I realized I was laughing AT him.

Some of his decisions were a little London-esque. I wonder if Mack Brown was ever a cop?

Then in the post game he gets snippy with a reporter.

Except he and Frank did coach against each other in 1987 (VT at Tulane). Granted, it wasn't in Lane, but he might end up regretting that comment as well.

I don't ever find answering a lazy, uninformed, cliche of a question from a "reporter" with disdained accuracy as "snippy".

My bad, Carl Torbush coached the Tar Heels in that game as Mack had taken the Texas job. Should have read before posting.

Unless all other options are hurt, I think we've witnessed Willis' final snaps in the O&M. I was immediately dejected when Hooker went down. After the Willis TD I kept an open mind...
Then in the second half I thought, well if Hooker is out for a while maybe we'll beat GT...

Then comes Quincy Motherfucking Patterson II. I do believe our season will be okay.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Willis tries to do too much. But he's a fighter. IMHO we may very well need all three qbs in the continuing battle this season. Hooker and qp will definitely take some hits. I'm encouraged by the fact that we clearly have some depth at qb finally.

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Sadly, it seems as if we will be needing ALL of it.

Quincy Motherfucking Patterson III II

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I got it wrong many times before someone pointed it out to me. Hell, I still write QP3 sometimes, even though I know it's wrong.

For what it's worth I'm re watching the game now and the broadcasters call him "the third" the whole game. Easy mistake for everyone it seems!

I pointed it out to someone on here last week, and I'm still doing it, lol

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I said all along Patterson should be the starter. It's a shame it took until game 7 to play him, but I applaud Fuente for putting him in. I hope they now tailor a new offense around Patterson, based on his skill-set, and start him for the rest of the season. He is the future of Virginia Tech football.

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Eh that's a little strong in my opinion. Maybe he is the future but I think Hooker is the immediate future. QP2 still needs a lot of development as a passer in order to do justice to his raw talent as an athlete.

I'm fine with Hooker as QB1 assuming he's healthy and QP2 as QB2, preparing him to take over after Hooker.

Love the fight in Willis but his skillset in this system just isn't cutting it.

100%. To say QP is the starter is to ignore what H2 has done. H2 is clearly the starter if healthy, but QP is showing some development.

I know Fuente said Hookers injury shouldn't be long term but that shot right after QP won it for us and Fuente is hugging the S&C staff Hooker's in the foreground barely able to put any weight on his leg..I hope Hooker can come back because personally I think he's slightly better for this offense than QP currently is..however I think we'll still be in good hands if QP has to start in the coming weeks.

Hopefully the ND game can be a coming out party for either HH or QP

Honestly just so happy to have some genuine excitement about this team, everyone seems bought in now and we've got some legit dudes at QB who still have years of eligibility

Also I know it's been harped on that Willis was the QB1 choice due to his throwing accuracy..I'm sure there's a ton from practice that validates this but from the game tape it seems like HH and QP can make all the throws Willis can

After halftime, Hooker was out there walking around and stretching with the team. He couldn't go long but he was out there moving around somewhat ok then. I don't think he is long term injured. I imagine he will be sore as hell today but the bye week couldn't have come at a better time for him.

Hooker should have been the starter from day 1, and QP should have been the backup getting more practice reps.

The fact that Willis was ever the starter for this team is baffling

Its been mentioned several times, Hooker was dealing with a shoulder injury. And it was reaggrvated against ODU, i believe he started when he was healthy enough to do so

By all accounts he was And is still dealing with that shoulder injury, so you'll excuse me if I don't buy that reasoning

I read somewhere (Andy Bitter I think) that QP simply hasn't gotten enough reps at the other passing plays to run them against an ACC opponent. Regardless, he ran the plays he knew very well.

Still, I'm very surprised at how many people want QP over HH. Hooker has looked like a straight up stud the last 3 games. He finished 8/12 but had at least 2 drops that also would have extended drives. Not to mention how many extra yards he would've had against RI if not for the drops. I haven't been as excited about a VT QBs play since Evans or LT in 2011.

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Huge fan of QP, but anyone who thinks he is better than H2 based on one exciting half is overreacting and not looking at the skill-set and body of work.

H2 is a better passer, more reps in the overall offense, more elusive and is clearly the leader right now. That is not a knock on QP, but a compliment to Hendon. We need his elusiveness and feel for the QB position. The kid is a gamer.

Hendon gives Vt the best chance to win every game here out. I hope his knee is okay.

Give QP some time to develop and let him compete with H2 and Braxton this off-season. It will make everyone better.

I like Hooker, but I don't see how you can declare Hooker a better passer than Patterson without much of a sample size to go on. Sure Patterson was 3/6 last night passing, but he hasn't been able to pass the ball in a game since he stepped foot on campus. Hooker was 50% passing during the Miami game. He played really well in the UNC game, but to declare he's that much better than Patterson in passing is a bit of an overreach currently. Having both quarterbacks though is great for our offense.

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Not even close to an over-reach. Total fact. We have seen Hooker in multiple spring games and 2.5 games against most legit competition. Watch QP in warmups, the spring game film and yesterday. Hendon has more throws right now - touch passes, fades, over the middle reads with zip, back shoulder, deep ball combined with athleticism and the ability to play the position with poise. QP might have more upside, but Hendon throws all the passes today and I am not talking potential. I am talking the eye test right now.

I think it's insane that Hendon changes the direction of the season with 2.5 games and QP plays good in a half and everyone wants to anoint him. That's a lack of perspective. QP will still be limited and relatively easy to scout. Hendon will not be limited due to diversity in his skill-set.

I would estimate at least 90% want Hooker if everyone is healthy. There's a few vocal people calling for QP but I think most still want Hooker.

I see the P-train made the rounds last night.

haha, yeah the p-train was rolling in my house last night. especially when Fu put QP in the game.

Hooker has thrown plays that were more than 1 read. Even if he physically didn't throw the ball as well as QP (not saying this is true), he is getting the ball where it needs to be with more options open every play.

I have loved every minute of HH playing. He is going to have a great career! I now believe that QP will have a fantastic career at VT also.

Yeah, this whole QP should've been the starter day 1, or should be the starter period, talk is CRAZY. Hendon makes this offense click and our drives the last few weeks have only stalled due to dropped passes pretty much.

This is why I cannot give Fuente any points. QP has barely gotten any practice reps and look what the kid can do. And look at how much better the offense runs with Hooker. There's a seriously off eye for what kids can do with this coaching staff

I can't understand some of the talk online that think Fuente purposely kept the best QB's on the bench. His job is to win games, it's how he makes money, how he keeps his job and makes more money and you think he kept players in the bench who could have done that?

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I don't think he left them on the bench on purpose but the alternative doesn't look much better on Fuente.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

No chance he left them on the bench on purpose. However, it is his job and way to earn his money by being able to properly evaluate talent.

For sure. He either left them there on purpose or wasn't able to realize Hooker and QP were better. That's my biggest question at this point in the season. But since he closes off practice we're left to assume things like that.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Agreed. Yeah the whole closed off thing is another story - not like we use tons of gadgets, trick plays or have reinvented the game of football that garners the need to be closed off in case leaks or "spies" are out there.

Very happy with the teams resiliency after the Duke blowout. However there is still alot of work left to do, and we need to keep showing improvement! The bye week is coming at a perfect time!

He doesn't want to lose, so he didn't purposefully pick the worst QB. He was paralyzed by his fear to take a risk. He always has been and, sadly, even with the correct QB, probably will continue to make poor decisions because of that mentality.

Yeah. I think it shows in game planning too.

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No I think he didn't realize he had the best players on the bench, which is almost worse.

It's crazy to think he would purposefully not play the best QB. That's outlandish. However I think Willis became a little bit of a project for he and Corn. They became invested in him and were determined to make him a productive P5 QB. Considering Fu has had a different QB pretty much every year so far, I think they were intent on making Willis work and hoping the light would come on. Unfortunately, it just didn't. I also think they failed to realize that he was just a poor scheme fit for this offense. You need a mobile read option QB or the run game stalls and you're constantly facing 3rd and long.

I've been pleased with Hooker being named the starter, but assuming Fuente has bought himself another year, I am 100 percent onboard with a new OC and OL coach next year. We need a shakeup there because I'm not completely sold on this scheme and it's viability at the P5 level. We need to get back to controlling the line of scrimmage again and not just having our OL be window dressing.

Agreed about the OC, but I felt the Oline had a hell of a game yesterday, and it feels like that squad is making gains.

No doubt they have been playing better, but I wonder how much influence Kill has had. Like French has mentioned, I don't like the passive blocking techniques Vice has been teaching. I just don't think that and tons of East-west motion in the run game will cut it at this level. Vice has recruited well but I'm skeptical on the coaching side.

How bout we give the coaches a little time to make adjustments? Hell, the o line looked a hell of a lot better yesterday. Everyone's bashing corny but the wide open throw to tre first half wasn't really players being athletic. It was all about the play design- that is - corny gets the credit. We are a work in progress - the fire everyone mentality is not the right course to take,especially when you start seeing improvements.

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I dunno I feel for every play like that one there are three head scratchers that Corny draws up.......

This. One good play doesn't make up for a body of work

I think Fuente may not evaluate his quarterbacks on the correct criteria. Feels like there is an opportunity for more advanced analytics in the program.

We know that he claims to value turnovers the most. Head scratching, because Willis threw a lot of picks and lost a few fumbles and was still starting.

Willis also got sacked at a much higher rate. Willis had a higher overall completion %, but someone had a great post here illustrating that he's less accurate at certain down and distances than H2O.

Most importantly, Willis was a nonexistent running threat. Hooker and QPs ability to pick up 3+ yards per carry has got to be a difference maker versus Willis.

Someone should turn build a regression of all these stats versus game outcome across the entire Fuente area, and I'm almost positive that there would be a significant statistical relationship between Hooker and QPs style of play and winning.

Which leads me to believe that, although Fuente undoubtedly thought he was playing the best player, there was probably an opportunity to make a more educated decision using data.

I'd love to see a comparison between 2018 Willis stats and 2019 Willis stats. He sure seems to be a much different mindset (and not in a good way) this season. Still making bad reads in the read option, but now also making bad decisions in the passing game, which he didn't do as much of last year. He also scrambled for yards pretty well, at least he seemed to be effective doing that compared to Josh Jackson. Assuming he executed well in spring/fall camps, the coaches were probably expecting him to pick up where last season left off - having proven himself a decent QB in terms of game performance - and make improvements this season in his weak areas. When there was some hiccups early, they were patient as they know he can be a bit inconsistent. Plus the next man up was dealing with an injury so there was even more of a reason to be patient with Willis.

Ultimately Willis played worse instead of better and as Hooker healed up, Fuente made the switch.

Now that he's a backup, he seems to have a much shorter leash.. in the post-game Fuente commented something like "I didn't like how that was going at all, so we made the switch" in reference to Willis' play in the 3rd quarter.

Fuente also made several post-game comments about how as the 2nd quarter was progressing he felt the offense was about to hit the afterburners and torch UNC in the 2nd half. Hopefully Hooker is healthy and we can light up Notre Dame

Can H2 not be a thing? There is no keyboard layout where it is quicker or easier to type than HH. Thanks.

The Herndon Hooker offense = H2O?

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On the first series with Willis, if you watch the tape, he gave up on the play when there really was no reason to do so. He was under moderate pressure. He could have stepped up in the pocket and tried to make it work. But way way too early, he folded. This was unforgivable. But it is also vintage Willis. My gut feeling is that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Coaches saw that and benched him.

The future is now after the Duke game. Fuente get's this. VT fans are tired of losing to medicore ACC teams.

Just hoping HH and QP both get enough reps the rest of the season to keep them out of the portal come December. But without resorting to some two-QB rotation disaster.

Sure, good on Fuente for making the move. But I'm not understanding how two drives against UNC somehow overwrote countless practices, scrimmages, and game film that made Fuente think Willis was still above QP when he replaced him for Hendon initially.

He deserves praise for making the move, but he also deserves some questioning of his evaluation abilities too.

Willis and Hooker are taking the extreme majority of snaps in practice. You put the one that is most ready in to play. At that moment, it was Willis.

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I'm guessing with Hooker hobbling, QP will get the majority for a few days.

I don't disagree with this. But why wasn't QP getting more of those reps if they has such little faith remaining in Willis?

Because HH was getting them. And Willis played last year. Those two were splitting first team reps. There are only so many to go around, and only so many hours allowed for practice and meetings.

And you are assuming the coaching staff had limited faith in Willis......

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I am assuming, but given that they pulled Willis after two drives and that he's already been demoted once is evidence enough for me to make that leap.

Fair point in the limited number of reps. I hope moving forward QP gets the QB2 reps so he is more prepared to run the full playbook in the event that Hendon can't be out there.

I don't want to be "that guy" here. Fuente ultimately made the right call and put our team in a position to win that game. I think this team has clearly gotten better since Duke and all credit to the players and coaches on that. I'm just still very suspect of Fuente and his ability to evaluate talent after sticking with Willis for so long.

Willis is really struggling this season compared to how he played last year. He also probably kills it in practice with his arm talent and knowledge of the playbook and overall # of reps. I totally understand why the coaches would have him as #2 vs a guy who has a very very limited sample size of game action and a very limited sample size of practice reps. Problem is that 2019 Willis is not anywhere near as good in game situations as 2018 Willis, and he's been getting worse week by week. Credit to Coach Fu for recognizing that a couple weeks at #2 hadn't cured Willis's 2019 in-game issues and making that switch to Patterson quickly.

Honestly, I think Willis was pulled because the staff was desperate. We had just lost our starting QB, and the former starting QB came in and played horrendously for two drives after the TD pass on his first play in. The intentional grounding throw was the last straw. It was obvious to practically everyone in attendance that the offense wasn't going anywhere with Willis in, and I think the coaches saw that as well and figured it couldn't be any worse with QP.

After the show he put on Saturday, I would be surprised if he didn't get first-team reps today, and possibly tomorrow if Hooker is unable to suit up, to give the coaches some time to add to his playbook. My biggest concern is that we showed everything he can do, and if Hook is out for any sort of extended period the staff has two weeks to install as many new concepts as they think QP can handle. Chances are that won't be very many, but as long as he takes care of the football the rest of the offense should be able to pick up some of the slack.

With all due respect, everyone, including the coaches I'm sure, expected Willis who has plenty of physical skills, to take a step forward with the mental aspects of QB. Unfortunately, Ryan still panics from indecision and either holds on to the ball too long or makes an ill-advised throw. There's really no way to know how he's going to play until he's in that game situation. His lack of composure to execute the gameplan in the first couple of drives convinced the coaches to go with QP and essentially run a 1-read single wing high school offense. And it worked. Kudos to the coaches for being gutsy enough to roll that dice.

QP is one dimensional. Announce him as the starter, and UNC knows he is one dimensional and they dare him to pass and blitz the living shit out of him when he does. That is probably what Fuente is thinking here. You can bet Notre Dame will be ready for that QB keeper we ran with QP 90% of the plays.

Hopefully 2 weeks of QP getting the majority of the snaps (unless HH heals quickly) will open the game plan up for him. He looked pretty good on his few throws.

QP was never going to be the starter for UNC, so I'm confused by your point. I'm just not sure why QP wasn't QB2 going into this game when clearly they didn't have much faith left in Willis being able to lead this offense.

This is all admittedly nitpicking, but I think it's interesting that Willis had such a short leash as opposed to us going directly to QP.

I think they did have faith Willis, which is why they put him in. But, then, watching his play, he was not prepared. It's probably hard going from starter to back-up, and then preparation becomes an issue. I can imagine it would be harder to prepare for a game after being demoted. The coaches saw him making mistakes, that anyone mentally into the game should not be making, especially a 5th year senior, and they decided at that point to make a change.

I think after the TD in the first half you had to run RW back out there. I also believe that of the 5 sacks that we gave up that 3 of them were when RW was in there. He was only in for 3 maybe 4 series. And the final straw was the no look pass the resulted in a penalty that took us out of FG range. You could see the disappointment/anger on CJFs face when that happened as RW was coming off of the field.

I think at the end of the half we clearly needed to go to the air and Willis was the preferred option when in an obvious passing situation. No issue with that move.

But you then have halftime and a perfect opportunity to prep/gameplan for QP and we didn't do it, at least not initially. Ryan did nothing in the second half that looked different from what he's done all year. So, if that isn't what you wanted, why put him in at all?

I don't want to keep bashing on a dude that has put his heart and soul into this program so I'll leave it at this: I hope moving forward that we see either Hooker or Patterson if either is a viable option to play QB. They are the path forward for this offense and give us the best chance to be successful. I'm not sure there is any argument to be made to the contrary at this point.

Seems to me that Fuente gives his starting QB some breathing room, but has a shorter leash for backups. OR maybe Willis has just earned a shorter leash this season with his performance in games (while still practicing well enough to earning consideration for playing time)

I don't think this is anything more than Fuente watching the personality this game was taking in the third quarter, and he pulled the trigger to shake things up.

I also think the QP running thing could actually work whether Notre Dame is "ready" for it or not. I will qualify that statement with VT has to have two working RBs for it to work successfully.

GT won a few Coastal titles and an ACC championship being one dimensional. (This last statement is being made more or less in jest to just watch you pin your ears back,)

Leonard. Duh.

He deserves praise for making the move, but he also deserves some questioning of his evaluation abilities too.

I'm not too hung up on this tbh. I'm more concerned with how the evaluation was done than the result (which, we don't see, because Fuente has walled off the program, but I digress). There's trade offs between QB's - HH having a bad left shoulder but being elusive and (as we now know) able to throw a decent ball, RW being turnover prone but having the biggest arm and the most experienced, QP being inexperienced and only practicing a limited playbook, but being pretty good at that limited playbook, and near impossible to take down. You take in to account that he only has 20 hours/week with these kids. You take into account that offense's strength is the WR and weakness is the running game.

Fuente & Co. probably under estimated how bad the running game is without a mobile QB, and over estimated the strength of the receivers, and RW's ability to continue to grow with more practice with the starters. It took 4 games to realize this. In hindsight, that was probably too long, but figuring out how to balance fast failure with persistence is something that all leaders struggle with. Fuente reached the correct conclusion, while the season's goals are still in sight. Hopefully he rights the ship before end of season.

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Excellent post.

Sure glad he based it on feel and didn't base it off stats cause Willis was pulled going 3-3 for 55 yards and a TD. ... The boneheaded grounding just so awful it had to kill the mojo of the team and force JF's hand.

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I'm not saying Hooker shouldn't start when healthy because I think he should, but I'm surprised how many people think he should have some total stranglehold on the position. He only has like a 2 game advantage on QP, not 2 seasons, and there's a legitimate argument that QP looked equally as good and has way more upside to grow into if given the reps. If anything I think Hooker should remain the starter just to avoid changing QBs too much within 1 season.

If you think QP looked as good as Hooker, well then....

QP isn't there when it comes to the passing game, plain and simple. A few of the plays he tucked and ran when it was not a designed run because his first read wasn't open. He needs more time to develop his field vision and read progressions.

Hooker is just the more complete player at this point

We had another player do that recently...and we ended up in the ACCCG.

QPs package and work at practice is probably almost all first read run. I wouldn't look at what he did this week as anywhere near his ceiling or even a benchmark of his overall ability.

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I was in no way saying this was his ceiling. I'm saying *right now*, Hooker is the more complete player. Which is why Hooker should absolutely be the starter, and QP should absolutely be QB2 so he can get more reps and improve his passing game deficiencies.

I agree with that entirely I think QP is going to be dangerous and compete for the starting position next year if he gets the practice reps with the ones/twos for the remainder of the season.

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Props to Fuente for putting the offense's identity first by playing Patterson.

Per cfbstats: Since moving to Hooker (a dual threat QB who can run read options), VT has seen its avg total yards/game jump from 364 to 437 yards, or the equivalent of a TD drive after getting a fair catch from a kickoff. Furthermore, yds/play has increased from 5.14 to 6.19. These post Willis averages would be good enough for 44th best in the country.

Unsurprisingly the ground game has seen a huge improvement since the qb change, from 150 yds/gm to 210 yds/gm. That new average would be good enough for 28th best in the country.

While these numbers may not be sustainable as the caliber of VT's opponents increase, the data clearly shows that HH and QP should be QB1/QB2 going forward.

Since moving to Hooker (a dual threat QB who can run read options), VT has seen its avg total yards/game jump from 364 to 437 yards, or the equivalent of a TD drive after getting a fair catch from a kickoff. Furthermore, yds/play has increased from 5.14 to 6.19. These post Willis averages would be good enough for 44th best in the country.

Its also worth mentioning that the games with the lower stats were against BC, ODU, Furman, and Duke while the ones with the better stats have been against Miami, URI, and UNC. We're playing better while playing against better teams.

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