CMY BALL RECRUITING - SUMMER 2020+

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Update on Orlando "priority" target Michael James.

What is your relationship like with the Virginia Tech staff?

"Coach Young probably calls me three or four times a week and we have really good conversations. Coach Frazier is hitting my phone up every day. I think as soon as he wakes up he checks in to make sure I am working. I am always up before him getting after it but I don't think he has taken a single day off. He is always checking in and I think he really believes in me and is committed to me."

Looking at a November decision.

With that ranking, I want those coaches calling daily.

eff aTm and eff Brent Williams

As an aside, a friend of mine's kid worked as a team manager/statistician for Buzz. He doesn't work for the team anymore. As my bud put it, "Buzz was a real asshole to work for, but he appreciated statistics. My kid likes Young a lot more. Way more easy going, but Mike walked into the first managers meeting and said, 'what the heck do we need 8 statisticians for?'"

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Friend of mine had a son who did stats/play analysis too. Was hired fulltime after graduating in May 2019 but was layed off when they cut all those jobs.

'what the heck do we need 8 statisticians for?'"

Buzz is big into analytics. There's plenty of teams, both collegiate and professional, that have way more than 8.

Top 8

Props to whoever did his graphic. That looks super nice.

But he has his back to our jersey.

He knows that VT has his back.

Also, our jersey is isolated where all of the other ones are grouped together. That means we're his number 1 choice.

If you asked me a year ago if I'd be in this position I wouldn't believe you.

Out of context, it still works for basically everyone in 2020.

Looks like his timetable moved up

Michael is doing a virtual visit today

MJ: I've had 1 virtual visit and another one Monday, if I commit there I'll for sure be up to come on a visit when I'm able to.

So we should have three scholarships available for 21 and two for 22 just based off eligibility remaining, correct?

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

by my count, yes
r-Sr Diarra
Sr Bede
r-Sr Pemsl

r-Jr Aluma
r-Jr Mutts

A guy I'd had my eye on but hadn't heard anything about recently is Carter Whitt. Originally considered reclassifying to 2020, ultimately decided to stay '21. Charlotte Observer has him as the #2 player in NC. Had been hearing a lot from Ohio State, NC State, and Nebraska in addition to VT. Took a visit to VT in February. After deciding not to reclassify, got offers from Memphis, Arkansas, and St. Mary's, and increased interest from Florida, Alabama, and Michigan. So, a little discouraging he didn't pull the trigger on reclassifying with Tech when he had the chance. The road ahead is tougher for the Hokies, but there's plenty to sell him on.

Last thing I'd found him saying anything about VT was last December:

Virginia Tech: "That was good. With coach (Mike) Young there they are going to be constantly winning in the ACC. The way they play, I like the way they play a lot."

Hell, with hair like that, it looks like he'd be a solid get for VT Lax as well.

looks like the chick from ten things i hate about you

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or from Bourne Identity

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Or from Save the Last Dance.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

I think he meant Heath Ledger, not Julia Stiles.

The last I heard our best bet to get him to Tech would have been reclassing to '20, so it's not looking too good on his front to get him here.

Was feeling discouraged about Carter Whitt, but feeling a little new life after this from Corey Evans at Rivals.

I am not sure how much longer Carter Whitt will play out his recruitment, but Virginia Tech does have a great chance with him.
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Wake Forest is out of the picture after taking the commitment from Robert McCray, and while Alabama, Boston College, Indiana, Nebraska and Ohio State had pushed at various moments throughout his recruitment, the programs to monitor include the Hokies, Florida, Marquette, Michigan and NC State. The Wolverines have not offered yet but they have begun to show greater interest, as have the in-state North Carolina Tar Heels. However, loyalty and the fit seem to be of the most important factors with Whitt.

Worth mentioning here that we're one of the few visits he's taken so far and he's held an offer from us since April of 2019. Of those "programs to monitor", the only offer that came earlier was NC State (Dec, 2018)

I feel like NC State isn't recruiting him hard.

Concerning those "programs to monitor"- Michigan offered Whitt today and Marquette may be about to get a '21 PG commit in Stevie Mitchell.

Marquette did indeed fill a PG spot with Mitchell
Everything I've read about Whitt and Michigan has left me with the impression that Whitt is very much a backup option for them after bigger targets have gone elsewhere. Have to wonder if he feels that way, too. May all be moot because one of those "higher" guys, '21 PG Frankie Collins, is set to commit on Wednesday, likely to Michigan.

Michigan got Collins yesterday evening. Would seem to make them and Marquette less likely, as far as need goes. Florida still needs a PG this class and they were deemed a program to watch in Whitt's recruitment. Don't know about the relationship between Florida and Whitt, but they've been involved since they offered him April last. Also as a point of interest- one of those other programs to watch, NC State, took two PGs last class. Absent a late entry by say, UNC, you have to like VT's position.

Expect some of MY's staff to be logging a lot of time with Brewster Academy. Carter Whitt transferred there along with fellow target John Camden, who is good friends and former roommates with third target Sam Ayomide.

a CB is in for Nebraska- did not see that one coming. Only thing that stood out about them that I've seen is it's one of the few schools Whitt has visited. Word is Whitt is leaving Brewster Academy.

Jerry Meyer has more:

Instead of doing a prep year at Brewster Academy, Whitt, who has graduated from high school, is now expected to enroll in college this fall and play ball this season.

And Nebraska appears to be the leader in the recruitment of the 6-3 point guard. Whitt currently has all three of his Crystal Ball predictions for the Cornhuskers.

It would be a real bummer to miss out on Whitt because he decided to declare early so close to the season. Hate to not have room for such a talented guy, but I also don't blame coach Young for using all his scholarships ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I don't know Carter Whitt's feelings toward Nebraska or what the CBs right now are based on (maybe Hoiberg's track record of putting guys in the league at Iowa State?), but Brian Snow (who has one of those Husker CBs in) is still mentioning the Hokies as a contender.

...look for Whitt to focus in on a decision and make one soon. Nebraska and Virginia Tech are getting a lot of buzz, but other programs haven't thrown in the towel yet.

wow that went off the beaten path quickly! Wake catching their card on the river.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

2021 PG Wade Taylor virtually visited Tech on Friday (7/17). Looks like he's only rated on Rivals so far and they have him as a 4*. Most of his offers came in 2018.

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

Oh to beat out Buzz for a recruit would be pretty sweet!

https://phenomhoopreport.com/playing-like-a-true-big-2023-69-brock-vice/

various heights reported, but class of 2023 means he's just a rising sophomore. Not sure how I missed that Vance Vice had a 6-9 freshman son, but would be cool if he stayed home.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

6'9" already? Can you imagine if he hits a growth spurt?

If he hits a growth spurt he might end up as a 6' 14" or 6' 15" TE

(add if applicable) /s

He maybe already has, I quit growing vertically in 8th grade

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Is he too tall for Left Tackle?

Gobble Till You Wobble

Well, I guess Fuente and Co. are here at least until 2023

s/

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

It's our year!!

Do employees kids get a free ride? Cause that's an extra scholarship!

Nope, can't use state funds... Must be privately funded.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I'm guessing we have a great shot at him. I'm also confident that Coach Young "gets" the big picture and will offer him regardless.

By big picture, you mean offering kids of important figures in the VT athletic department? I can think of a time where that might have been pretty lucrative....

Marshall University graduate.
Virginia Tech fanatic.
Formerly known as JWillHokieAlum.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he means.

Update on a couple of VT targets who also happen to be roommates. Ayomide is looking to trim his list to 7 or 8 schools soon and Camden has been sitting on a couple of VT CBs for months.

Currently unranked in the 247 Sports Composite, Ayomide came to the United States four years ago, attending two schools in Texas before transferring to The Phelps School (Malvern, Pennsylvania) in the summer of 2019 where he played his junior season for coach Trey Morin. Since a standout showing at the Pangos All-American Camp last June and a strong junior campaign, the list of suitors has grown considerably โ€” even if the recruiting services' rating systems have yet to reflect the increased interest.
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He said the [Memphis] Tigers have everything he's looking for in a college destination but so do several other schools recruiting him, which include LSU, TCU, Virginia Tech, Seton Hall, Texas A&M, Wake Forest and VCU.

Still shocked whenever I see a recruiting target over 6'8.

Yes,that's the Hokie Bird riding a camel. Why'd you ask?

Camden transferring to the same school Carter Whitt just transferred to

My uncle coached in Montgomery County, PA for a long time, and compared Camden to a young, raw Kevin Durant coming out of high school. On one hand he's prone to hyperbole, but on the other he is a hall of fame basketball and volleyball coach, and coached against Kobe in the 1990s. It'll be interesting to see how the transfer plays out, especially with the state of high school sports.

Both Camden and Whitt would be huge pickups for CMY.

Memphis 247 guys are super duper high on Ayomide (#1 on their board) and Camden. They break down their skill sets here (starts 18:20 mark, Camden at 22:50) and intimate there's a better-than-usual chance that these two may want to play together (though their hint may just mean Memphis is on the verge of offering Camden to get to Ayomide).

John Camden announcing this week. Flood of new CBs have him going to Memphis. Memphis has been recruiting Ayomide hard and believes they may be able to get both.

Camden to Memphis. Will recruit Ayomide heavily. sigh.
Ready for some - any - good basketball recruiting news.

2022 is our year!

Football and basketball recruiting

CB in for 2021 combo guard Javon Small. Haven't seen a lot of tape, but what stood out to me is he has a soft touch shooting off the drive and good upcourt vision on the break.

I know the basketball threads don't get as much traffic, but thanks for keeping it updated!

I agree. I am excited about basketball and CMY, and as much as I love Hokie football, Hokie basketball has always run nearly neck and neck with that love. The best thing has always been that even when football is over for the year, basketball keeps me going until the spring and in a good year, provides me with a ton of entertainment that the less good years cannot extinguish.
It may all go to the devil this year, but we'll be keeping our fingers crossed.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Kid is REALLY good. Athletic enough to thrown down alley-oop dunks and great passer and his AAU tape where he plays more free on offense shows Steph Curry-like range. This shot with time running out...
https://youtu.be/08XtTeP7enI?t=114

and these 25 footers
https://youtu.be/08XtTeP7enI?t=18

Best of all if you broke out dribble drives with nothing longer than a layup you couldn't tell which is his strong hand, he's equally strong to his left.
Plus he's from Indiana... give me a team of high hoop IQ Indiana kids all day.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Preston Squire at 6-11 with that stroke from deep- yes sir. Looks like 2023 freshman due to going on LDS mission for 2 years.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Preston Squire is 6' 11" and is 86% on FTs. That's incredible! They also note that his primary position is SF. I can't see a scenario where his height doesn't make him a center for us.

Well, Rob... Hello there! Missed you man!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

That's an eclectic group of schools! Is that a stinking pirate?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

seton hall

update after seeing Wartooth's post:

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I debated whether to post this because it could just be in reference to a good week of practice
HOWEVAH
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Michael James, who is hearing from Coach Frazier multiple times a week, took a virtual visit to Tech this past Monday and has a decision date coming up September 9. Coach Frazier also tweeted a "GOT BETTER" tweet 6 days before Joe Bamisile committed.

update: follow-up tweet from Coach confirms it was indeed about workouts [collects pins and string]

"Sam Foggin"

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

geez. that kid looks a good 18 inches taller than most of the kids stuck guarding him

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Just a note of interest because VT and Michigan are finding themselves after some of the same prospects. Would be particularly interesting in the recruiting process of Efton Reid (not that we have a good shot at him).

Chester Frazier doing work. Hokies have made the top 8 for

(no drooling please)

2022 5-star forward Brandon Huntley-Hatfield (who may seek to reclassify to '21).

"I wanted Virginia Tech, I'm interested in Virginia Tech and always had been. I got them and I talked to one of the coaches and talked to them for a good amount of time. They offered a couple of other guy in my AAU program so it would be good to team up with them and go to the same school. I could see myself in their uniform and school."
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Virginia Tech is also pursuing good friend Jarace Walker and there has been some loose discussions about the two joining forces in the college ranks.

As the article points out, Kentucky was thought to be a favorite for BHH earlier this year, but didn't make the cut.

So much for our worries about Coach Young and the recruiting trail. He has been doing the work.

Vroom Vroom

Any chance UK pulled out because these guys might go the G League route?

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

If Mike Young retires sooner rather than later I'd love to have Chester Frazier there to take over.

How do we feel about Michael James for his commitment tomorrow?

I have no idea how Rivals publisher predictions compare to 247's crystal balls, or just predictions in basketball recruiting in the first place... but two writers for Rivals have him going to VT as of August 22nd. The one 247 crystal ball is for A&M, and it's from June.

So sounds like we have a good chance.

Last article I read said it was a race between Bama and VT and TAM actually fell off. take it for what its worth, but just hoping for good news tomorrow!

Chris Alvin has it 75% for Michael to commit too us

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

Where did you get this info? 247 has only one cb and that's an 8 to Lewisville. He's pretty much gone to those scumbags.

Josey Wales

Wrong. Four cbs to Lewisville now on 247. He's gone.

Josey Wales

Welp that's sucks it was all tech the other day

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

Sucks but doesn't mean it's certain. Remember all of MJ Walker's CB's

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Michael James is a hell of a basketball name.

A few notes on Pedulla-

Virginia Tech: "Coach [Mike] Young and coach [Kevin] Giltner are the main two that talk to me from there. Coach Giltner texts me throughout the day to just see how my day is going, how often I'm working in the gym. He was good about texting me to see how I'm doing during the tournaments this summer. He watched like almost every game."

When it comes to what he is looking for in a program he said he is looking for a few different things in a school and program.

"I just want to go somewhere I can contribute early and have the chance to lead a team to a successful season and hopefully to a national championship. I also want a coaching staff that has faith in me, teammates that was me to get better and want to get better themselves and we can lift each other up. Then style of play, obviously, I like playing fast and shooting so those things from a basketball standpoint. Then from a school standpoint, just a good education and an all-around environment that I would fit into."

Hopes to sign during the November period, but won't rush a decision.

There is a pretty good chance that kids 8 years old, right?

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reading the social media tea leaves, MY and staff seem to be going full heist and sneaking Pedulla out of Oklahoma in a laundry basket
two new CBs for VT for Pedulla and a Chris Arvin "get excited" tweet
UPDATE: all CBs have flipped to the good guys
Arvin says we got him and he will announce this week!

Mason Miller (son of former 17-year NBA veteran Mike Miller) is focused on 5 programs, including Virginia Tech.

"As of now it's Creighton, LSU, Ohio State, Indiana, and Virginia Tech." You look at the list and you see programs from all different conferences. For Miller, it is all about finding the right fit and choosing a school that will lead him to his ultimate goal of the NBA.

Those CBs for Memphis are mostly from May and June. They have offered (Germantown is in the Memphis suburbs) His recruitment is still open and is going slowly because he wants to be able to take visits. "After Christmas if things aren't opening up then I'll probably start making a decision."

I gotta say, even if it was under Buzz's watch, getting Nickeil Alexander-Walker drafted in the first round and getting Justin Robinson at least into the two-way player contract conversation is going to go a long way in pulling in recruits. We've only had 15 players make the NBA (and that is charitably counting Dorian Finney-Smith, according to RealGM) - the fact that 2 of them have come in the last year is big.

He was waived, but want to shout out Ahmed Hill's two-way contract with Charlotte.

He played pretty well for the Northern Arizona Suns (G league) so hopefully he can play his way into a NBA contract soon.

Been really nice to have had Hokies to cheer for each of the past five seasons with Green, Eddie, Delaney, Robinson and Alexander-Walker.

Would love to see a big man on that list

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

We'd have to have big men for that to happen. We seem to be turning a corner there. Recent history is lacking.

KBJ could have been that guy.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

6'9" and 180 pounds?

For heaven's sake, somebody buy that young man a bag of double cheeseburgers.

Hardee's coupons might actually be a viable strategy in his case.

VTCC '86 Delta Company, Hokie in Peru, Former Naval Aviator, Former FBISA, Forever married to my VT87 girl. Go VT!

Or Cactus Jack burgers

It's lit.

Vroom Vroom

My favorite part about this is all the poor McDonalds workers getting tired of kids pulling up in the drive thru not saying anything when asked for their order but instead playing "Sicko Mode"

I got some bad news๐Ÿ˜”

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

Knew he wasn't coming to VT. I'm picking a shocker and he goes to WF. His dad played there. No, not really. I haven't a clue but 247 has two expert high cbs to Nebraska. Just know it's not VT. Since he's planning on joining his college choice in Jan. now, VT doesn't even have a scholarship available. Was hoping hoops recruiting would follow last year's but not too good so far!!

Josey Wales

chatter to share as Nate's recruitment "begins to wind down":

Virginia Tech is definitely in a good spot for Santos. Coach Frazier has been able to develop a very good relationship with him throughout the process which will go along way. He's 6'7 and an outstanding shooter and can shoot it off the dribble. Although he's a 3 star this will be a major steal if landed.

He's 6'7 and an outstanding shooter and can shoot it off the dribble

Good enough for me no matter the ranking! You can win a lot of games with guys like this on the roster. Defense is much easier to teach (if its a weakness) and any shortcomings can be covered up with energy and tenacity.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

Bryce McGowens decommitted from Florida State. Was seen as a heavy Clemson lean. Brother of Trey McGowens, who Tech also pursued, currently at Pitt.

That would be a great way to start the class

Oh that would be nice. I would like to think that CMY has some connections here from is time in SC. Plus that list of potential alternatives (if it stays at just that list) doesn't really scare me.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

Think this is either gonna be UGA or back to FSU. Family still wants him at FSU

Looks like the B ball players will get the extra year eligibility like football. That possibly changes recruiting significantly depending on the scholarship total . This would be great because some guys last year could have used a redshirt and were forced to play because of the situation we were left in . Getting a point guard may not be as critical if Bede and Diarra decided they would take the extra year .

Coastal 1

new name, new (low confidence) VT CBs, including a switch by a Temple insider.

Lynn Greer III had been a 2020 recruit but reclassified last year to 21. He's previously been said to be down to Georgetown, Temple, Miami, Ohio State, and Nebraska. His dad played at Temple, so that was pegged as his destination until-

While I didn't see any highlight videos, I did see that both his grandfather was drafted by the Phoenix Suns in the 70s and his dad had a 13 year career in Europe, including a brief 41 game stint in the NBA for the Milwaukee Bucks in 2006-07. So that is a hell of a pedigree.

Not sure how I feel considering in his tweet announcing our offer, he called us Seton Hall...looks like he just copies and pastes for every offer, and forgot to change the school name

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.