July 2020 Fishing Thread

It is the heat of the summer, and this is the thread for sharing your fishing reports and pictures, and asking questions about techniques, strategies, and gear for the month of July.

Spanish mackerel are starting to show up in the Bay, while spadefish and trout seems to be the other big targets while cobia are still a prize. Whiting/sea mullet/roundhead and spot seem to be the best target for shorebound anglers, while croaker are MIA. King mackerel have been hitting on the piers in Emerald Isle, NC. The tuna kite bite is getting started in the OBX and off Virginia Beach.

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We start the move tomorrow. Hopefully we will be settled in so I can fish some next week.

I have heard rumors of really big flathead catfish available above the fall line in Richmond on jigs? Has anyone elese ever heard of this? That is intriguing.

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I've seen nice sized flatheads all over the james in skinnier water the further you go up the james, issue is I dont know of any other way to catch one than with a bluegill.

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I've seen pictures of guys catching em with jigs and what looks like swimbaits on em or magnum/jumbo worms in white or pink. I myself have never done more than toss a bluegill or cut bait when catfishing.

I catch 5-8 pounders on fly so I'm sure it is possible on jigs. I've got a spot for you if you're interested

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I was catching them earlier in the year on a bitsy bug (in june bug) w/ a gulp leech trailer. That was working well early season on the James for several different species.

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All packed and ready for a trip to Bath and Highland County with my dad this Friday. Trying the summer trout fly fishing trip we've tried the last two or three years. Hopefully no rain this time. My dad has talked for decades about how much he loves this area, how good the fishing is, and the good memories he has of past adventures.

My dad is extremely ill and may have to have a kidney removed and go on dialysis in the next few months. If we don't make it this week, I don't know that we'll ever get another chance. I really want to give him one more great memory. I appreciate any good vibes you all send our way.

If we go, I'll definitely post a report and photos.

Good luck! Please resend that email to me with the list of flies you want. I cannot find it for the life of me

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Appreciate it! Will do.

We were able to make the trip happen. Had a great time. My dad only lasted about 3 hours due to his health but I was ready to stop by then too. I caught 4 trout, 2 wild rainbows and 2 browns, all on dry flies. Enjoyed driving around and listening to Dad reminisce about the hunting and fishing of his youth.

I'll try to post a pic later.

If you still can, take your dad fishing (or go fishing with your adult kids). I'm very thankful for the memories made today.

Assume Jackson River is on the list.

Actually no. My dad always fished the gorge of the Bullpasture in Williamsville. So that's where we're headed. Jackson is on my list one day but isn't that the river with whole Kings grant hullabaloo? I need to do research before tackling a trip there.

The section in upper Bath, North of Warm Springs, has a couple public stocked trout sections. All the Kings Grant mess that I know of is below Lake Moomaw. Look up Hidden Valley section of the Jackson.

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The Jackson also flows through Hidden Valley, with public fishing as I recall and no crown grant nonsense. There are places to wade below the dam at Moomaw, but you'd likely enjoy Hidden Valley more. Haven't been over there for a while, though so not current on how the Valley section is fishing.
Best of luck to you both.

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At this time of year, Hidden valley section won't be holding much fish. The special regs section between the two stocked sections will probably have some willing trout left but it is a long walk to get to it.

Whats the best time of year to fish it? I got a gift of one day access to the private stretches below moomaw and have been waiting to go till later in the year or fall but I know very little on it and would mostly be streamer fishing.

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I edited my comment above as I was strictly talking about the Hidden Valley section as it was last stocked at the end of May. I have never floated the lower Jackson as that is the only safe way to fish it without getting a ticket, so I don't have any good intel on it. My brother floated a section of it on Sunday and they caught about 20 between 3 of them fly fishing.

I will concur. I've floated it dozens of times, and while I was harassed once early on, I never was ticketed. My friend Chuck is the guide that got the ticket that started the court case that ended up with the crown grant deeds being upheld. The first few times I floated it with him in his river raft, we slayed trout, smallmouth and big redeyes, but in later years, we used to catch ridiculous numbers of trout on countdown Rapalas and later larger floating Rapalas, with all barbs mashed. We just couldn't fly fish from the canoe and getting out of the boat anywhere was dicey with the land owners being hyper vigilant and the deal there is you can float the river, but you can't get out, even in the river, on the crown grant properties. Problem is, it's pretty unclear which of those that claim to be really are. It's still a stupid mess all these years later. We only floated in the winter and the higher spring flows to avoid property owners and other fishermen and it was a staple of our winters when I lived in Giles. I do know that the state purchased, and I assume still owns and maintains several access points on the river for putting in and fishing around the property. I'd contact a game warden in Staunton, I don't know them anymore, but that's your best bet for guidance.

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Reading through that whole fiasco a while back was interesting and stupifying. Insanely ridiculous if you ask me.

Nothing like relying on laws the King of England came up with in the 1600s to use in today's society.

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Exactly, and especially considering this isn't even territory that remains under the former ruling country which enacted the law to begin with. I still don't know if I fully understand how a law made by a different country applies here and was upheld. I guess that will be my Wikipedia tangent this evening.

The game was rigged from the start, the case was homed by a friendly to the landowners judge and fueled by the more understandable loss of the privacy as the fishery was developed. A lot of folks were against the impoundment to begin with, and some of the concessions made to acquire the land led to the changing of the river below the dam to a cold water release designed originally to produce a destination trout fishery. Our Commonwealth's Attorney at the time, Mary Sue Terry, wimped out and didn't fight for the rest of us as she let Chuck's case be settled in the crown grant claimers favor without a whimper. This after a million dollar cooling tower was placed at the dam for the cold water release, and several parcels of land were obtained and boat ramps and parking areas bought, paid for and developed for public access. Face it, friends, Virginia is as conservative a state as there is when it comes to property, and the folks with power in that part of the state flexed their muscles on this one. The Crown Grant nonsense gives the owner ownership of the water, land under the water, fish and fowl contained in and on the river. I have always said that if someone would go duck hunting on a crown grant claim and got ticketed, that'd be the end of their claim since the federal, not the state government owns the fowl and that could get the antiquated homerism out of this case. But, there are very few places that ducks can be shot on those sections because of proximity to houses or the road, so I doubt that'll happen.

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That was my conclusion too after an hour or more of reading last night. Seems to me that trying to rationalize it or understand the whole Kings grant thing is a waste of time. This comes down to the tyranny of a corrupt government. How in the hell could Chuck and the other fellow who got a ticket and was then sued in civil court for $10,000 be found at fault when they were properly licensed and were following ALL VDGIF regulations? Further, why didn't VDGIF support them during the court proceedings? Corruption, that's how.

I don't even fish there and reading this shit last night had me fighting mad.

I'm all for property rights. But how can you say you own a wild fish or fowl? How are the rights of these few landowners any different than those along any other body of water in the state?

I'm honestly surprised some good ole boy hasn't done something catastrophic to ruin that fishery semi permanently.

Fortunately, Chuck had a strong contingent of backers with deep enough pockets to keep him from eating the costs. I attended a TU fundraising event in Charlottesville that helped provide for his legal defense, but after the initial bruhaha, Sir Charles was played out and too busy to keep fighting on. My blood still boils and I got my share of shit from folks for letters I wrote to the Roanoke Times in those days. Oh well, water under the dam for me, but one of these days those old over represented antiquated bullshit laws will be dealt with as they should be, but that's for another generation to take up.

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Virginia is insanely corrupt and it's why I say some pretty obnoxious and awful things about those in power and those who pay to be in power. Better yet, how can Dominion claim to own part of the bottom of the James River? Their security guards have told me that they do when I was wade fishing in the river adjacent to their land in RVA. I told the guy to go get his supervisor and the game warden and let's see who is right and wrong. The supervisor came out but they didn't call the game warden. I told both mall cops to go shove it up their ass. I've purposely not fished the Jackson because I know I'll get in an argument with one of those assholes who claim to own the river bottom. Interestingly enough, the law is the same in Colorado. Utah too and it has seen some intense battles about it as well.

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We, now they, still go through this on the Radford arsenal float. Jim Richmond once had stopped on a hot as hell day under some shade on a steep bank at lunchtime in the arsenal. They were accosted by assault weapon weilding guards that ordered them off of the property. One of Jim's clients looked up at the woman sort of pointing her weapon at him and remarked "Everybody drop the sandwiches!!" getting a laugh from the fishermen, but not from the guards. The folks on the Jackson were nasty as they could be back then, but it's been so long ago. They would roll rocks down in the river in front of you and yell until you were out of their range. 30 years ago? Yikes, where does the time go?

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Thanks to you both. I'm going to do some desktop scouting in case we need a plan B. Appreciate the info.

Went backpacking with my dad and fished a few alpine lakes. I caught nothing, but my dad got a few trout. We cooked one on a rock.

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Whisperlite stove getting the job done.

It sure did! Too dry for campfires, so we had to improvise

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Man! That's beautiful country.

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Damn, I'm jealous all around- the fish, for dinner, the scenery. Beautiful!

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My boat had been in the water since Sunday and I neglected to give it a rinse after use. I'm currently regretting that decision the before and after are gonna be worth it though.

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Fished the Rapp today, mostly because I / my clients haven't done diddly squat in Fish's back yard and Jack's trout has me dreaming. Indeed the trout are there. My 14 and 16 year old clients hooked at least 40 plus fish today on jigs and landed around 30. A 20" trout came off boatside. 21" striper landed. Also hooked in the mouth a cow nose ray and leadered it. That was a first. Back at it again tomorrow and then south tomorrow night to Morehead City for several days.

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Need a little help here fellas, my pops has started trying to trout fish and has been losing some bigger trout around dock pilings so he wants to upgrade from his medium light setup. He doesn't want to break the bank and I can't for the life of me find past discussions on what's a good 100$ reel and 100$ rod to pair with say 10 pound mono specifically for trout fishing with cranks which are his favorite bait. If I can find a deal on the at Croix mojo bass I'm gonna get him one of them as I love the sensitivity of them but I couldn't remember the name of the Fenwick today people love.

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Fenwick hmg inshore- real nice. Hokiegigs has one. As far as a reel pair for explicitly trout, I'd go with a 2500. Personally I love the shimano nasci. I have the 2500,3000, and 4000. I don't have anything negative to say about any of them

Thanks I couldn't recall the Fenwick name and which model people liked. I was thinking I'd grab that in medium weight and either a 2500 or a 3000 series depending on how they felt on the rod. Dunno if I'd go with a bg after my last debacle I may grab him a Shimano and see how they feel weight wise. Depending on the reel I'll either go 10 or 12 pound mono he wants lighter but enough to horse a fish from a dock so I think 10 will work though I prefer 12.

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I will admit again to being the outlier here, but I use 6 lb test pretty much exclusively for dock fishing unless and until the reds start being a "problem", but even then, I wouldn't go more than 8. I like the castability and love the feel of the 6. Yes, you do have to horse a bigger fish away from the pilings sometimes, but believe me when I tell you that even 12 isn't enough if you get a decent red to bite up under the shade of a dock and he gets around a piling. They get there faster than you can react to the bite, set the hook and begin the fight. I used to lose one or two out of three when the bigger fish were around the docks. The 6 is plenty when fighting fish over grass beds, with improved distance from the light line, and when the reds were in the shallows on the banks of those beds, I never broke a fish off, not once, using 6 and got bit more often than my companions.
Now bear in mind that I'm talking about fishing Gulp on a jig head or rigged weedless on a worm hook, not a $10-15 surface lure. I'd definitely go bigger for topwater, but again, probably not more than 8. As for braid and leader, I tried a 20 lb leader one day after a frustrating number of cut off baits on the docks. Didn't do me much good as I didn't get as many bites and still had fish break me off on the pilings. The weight of a 22" red, coupled with the tension of the rod made for an easy off for the fish just by touching the barnacles and oysters on the piling. As for trout, I don't recall having any real problems landing them on 6, even around pilings, since they are more easily turned and led out of the dock area. Yeah, I'll likely lose a couple more heads due to hangups than I would with heavier line or get cut off by a rowdy striper once in a blue moon, but I'm willing to sacrifice that eventuality for the belief (right or wrong) that I'm going to get bit more. I use inexpensive (but not "cheap") green colored mono. I do carry one rod with 8, but use it seldom and even then usually because I want a different lure like a topwater or suspending jerkbait available. Also, admittedly, I don't land many cow nose rays with 6, but mostly because I don't want to spend more than a minute or so messing with them and don't mind breaking them off quickly so I can get back to fishing. Just me, though, and I know I'm in a very small minority on this issue.

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I'm a shimano guy.. I can tell you the nasci has very expensive feel to it. The 2500 would definitely be the better bet for the application you're talking about. I strictly use mine for mirrolures. My 3000 is almost always rigged with a popping cork on a MF croix mojo inshore. The 4000 I use on a heavy shimano 6' Clarus for cobia.

A 4000 sized shimano for cobia? Living dangerously my friend!

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sorry for the blur on the rod, but I think you can read it. they now have the "inshore" series as well, which offers additional options in what I think is the same rod.

I'd do this reel or maybe the nasci (I don't have one but the reviews are good).

you can always tie a heavier mono leader to lighter mono...like a 20 lb leader to 8 lb

Thanks for the tips everyone, Greentop as typical was out of stock of most stuff I was looking for almost bagged buying anything till I found a St. Croix triumph series medium 7 foot rod for 90$ and paired it with a Nasci for $99 and now pops has a solid setup and even wants me to rig him up some green lights on the dock for the next project. Dunno why but greentop had only 3-4 HMG's and they were all casting and MH. That said they were out of flukes and all of the other smallmouth baits I needed stock on.

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I've really enjoyed my Fuego so far Dave. Nice and lightweight, smooth drag and great price point.

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I have 6 now. They've quickly taken over as my favorite 'cheap' reel, way out preform the price point

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same, I've been very impressed. why that drag isn't on the BG is beyond me.

the technology you get at that price point is unparalleled, imo

Haha that's awesome, they feel great. Definitely fit perfectly for light tackle artificial only inshore stuff.

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Went out super early this morning with my dad- got on a few dink sized trout and striper on my way out to where hokiegigs and I caught the giant trout. After weeding through what felt like hundreds of houndfish, I caught another gator just under 23".

Went out chumming for cobia with eels- didn't get anything but a small shark in almost 3 hours. Not many other boats around. The ones that were looked like they were having the same luck we did

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For the first time in God knows how long, I had the (newly improved) yak out for 6 long, hot hours today in a spot I've always wanted to try but didn't have the time to because its 4 miles away from thebclosest launch. Only only that I was able to get there- I wasn't paddling!! I got a huge deep cycle battery for Father's day and put a PWM between it and the motor. Holy shit what a godsend.

Grabbed the above linked snook on the fly and then started throwing finger mullet around that I had netted before launch. Grabbed 4 more snook, a bonnethead shark, and a submarine sized crevalle on those, then went back to fly and grabbed another few snook before I ran out of fresh water to drink. Y'all, I know its hot everywhere, but it's 98 and humid here and the winds were around 0 while I was out. Satan's under-carriage ain't that warm and humid.....

Next time, it's a pure fly trip to the beach side of Big Hickory pass for tarpon and snook. Should've done that today, but testing out the PWM and battery life, I wanted to be somewhere that was at least somewhat familiar.

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Still in the unpacking phase, but we are now residents of Mechanicsville.

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Same here!

Welcome to the neighborhood! Do you have any first plans for fishing trip?

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Not sure yet. Hoping to meet up with Fish next week at some point. Would love to get some cobia fishing in this week, but I have some tripping points on Wednesday and Thursday even if I had an offer to go.

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Welcome home, and to closer proximity. Looking forward to seeing you soon.

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Well I struck out in the mobjack this weekend. Did however have a solid trip below scottsville on the james friday along with the population of New Jersey. Landed 28 fish overall and more than half were over the 14 inch threshold and looked solid and healthy which was largely encouraging. A couple in the 17 inch and 18 inch range were enough to give me some hope going forward that the James could some day recover.
That said went to the East river following the James river trip and fished hard friday evening and saturday evening both high tides incoming at dusk but me thinks the full moon mightve kept them from eating too much. Couldnt buy a fish in my neck of the woods and I threw everything but the kitchen sink. Gulp got me one bite atleast but the shrimp and culry tail were unproductive and swimbaits drew nothing and after that the skitterwalks and mirrorlures drew no takes. Gonna have to start venturing out further it seems to find fish as the ones who used to inhabit the area I wade fish seem to have not come around this year. Even tried soaking bunker for a mess of crabs and could only manage 4 tasty morsels. Was wondering why the crabbers left the east river so abruptly and now I think I know why.

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That's awesome about Scottsville. I want to take my kayak out that way in the near future to try and get on some fish myself.

Nice! Where did you put in the james? And does anyone know if the howardsville put in is still open? It used to be in dispute years ago.

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DWR still lists Howardsville as a public boat ramp site on their website.
BTW, When the heck did the department change its name from DGIF?

Thanks for the update and that's a good question.
I hadn't noticed that either... Hopefully there's no more drama around it, it used to be one of my favorite floats, and am itching to do it again.

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Dont know why my mom works for DGIF and she mentioned they were looking to freshen things up dunno why they thought a name change would do that.

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yup the howardsville ramp is still open I havent floated that trip in a few years. Its very popular with the big rock island to jump from and tubers these days but still a good trip to fish. I prefer below scottsville as more rapids to keep people spread out and not as many jet boats etc. Anything below hardware I tend to avoid as it gets flat and alot of power boats from there on.

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Yeah, we would be pretty much done fishing by the time we got to the tubers. All the good stuff was above that section anyway, so we were just paddling to get out by that point. Huh, don't recall ever seeing a jet boat out there. That must be a new thing, hope they're not too thick, and thanks for confirming on the ramp.

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The last few years we would see tons of free swimming crabs. Not this year (cough more cobia.)

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You guys need to get after the cobia then I couldnt even find a peeler amongst all of our oyster pots in 2 days which typically I can get 1 in every other pot as they love using them to peel in. Theyre a peeler magnet and we have a dozen or so beds so typically I can get 4-5 every time I check them. That said I called my local crabber to see if I could get some this weekend and she was looking for $65 for a dozen live #2s which I almost choked when she said that. Figured hell I can catch a dozen with 4 pots on a 2 day soak and now I see why she wanted that much for em.

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Went fishing Friday morning, got on a solid topwater bite with no big fish but solid class in 18-20" range. Landed 4 and lost 2. Had some awesome eats close to the boat. Starting to get in the groove of not reacting to seeing the topwater striker and waiting to set the hook. Saturday morning, it was slow. Very few blowups, small window where I had blowups. This fish missed it at least three times. I paused the topwater after every missed strike and then twitched again and finally got a 25" trout to commit and able to get her to the boat after a ton of big headshakes up top. This fish must have spawned out because it was a lot thinner. A dink striper was caught soon after and that was it. Amazed to catch another citation.

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beautiful fish!

since you are getting out all the time and I'm not; one of these days, grab one of those small egg-style wake baits and see if trout will hit it. I know reds will.

I've had a buddy get one on a whopper plopper. I will give it a shot. It would be a nice change of pace from walking the dog.

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Walking the dog while sitting in a kayak is a bit of an odd retrieve cant lie I prefer doing it standing to give you a little leverage. That said kudos on the killer work you had better have bought a few lottery tickets this week and maybe take some time off work to go after some more citations while youre still on fire!

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I'm always standing for it. Put the stakeout pole in the ground, stand up and start bombing topwaters all over the flat. Way too busy at work to take time off unfortunately. I'll be at it again next weekend.

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offshore anglers, mann's 1 minus, hunchback...something of that ilk...

Will check those out. Making an order for more skitter v so will snag one of those.

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order a pack of 3/0 and a pack of 2/0 VMC in line hooks for your Skitter V...3/0 for the belly, 2/0 for the tail

if too pricey, just get 2/0

it will be harder for fish to throw the hook

I remember you talking about that in a thread a while ago. Did you have a similar hookup ratio to trebles?

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No issues yet at all but in fairness, limited sample size

If you want to stick with trebles, go to a short shank, wider gap hook, especially on the belly hook

I'll look into it. The stock hooks are on it now. I have some owner stinger trebles, not sure if they are short shank wide gap, that I should probably switch them out to.

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for the skitter, don't worry about length but if hooked fish aren't getting to the boat, probably need a wider gap. there are several brands

The lost fish were more on poor hook sets this time. I'll keep gathering data on it tho.

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New TV show idea 193736, mythbusters but solely focused on fishing. A show debunking or confirming popular fishing myths.

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I'll be happy to co-host.

Dave will be our mason jar and kiddie pool bait tester
Flyguy is for boat and boat trailer myths
French will be our rod and reel specialist
Fish will be our fly fishing mythbuster
What else are we missing?

I'll volunteer to do any pyro and electrical stuff.

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I love it

Heuplek for boat detailing and trying to catch unicorn fish

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Man I did all that detailing to my boat this weekend and had a fender slip while my boat was tied to my dock. Gelcoat repair guide coming soon.

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geez...

By the time the show has a few episodes it will be the true cover all for watersports. French could also do extensive play by play of epic fish fights kinda like Ozzyman on youtube.
Something to base it off of, one of my all time favorites.

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Like Madden calling Super Mario

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I always wondered how a jitterbug would fare

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They work well. I use them and Arbogast buzzplugs in the salt frequently.

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Always had one or two, black and green, in my box a long time ago, but never caught a fish on one. Didn't fish them right, have confidence, not very schooled in fishing, whatever. Heard a lot more later, including using them at night on the New River for big smallmouth. I never considered them for the salt, but why not?

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Congrats on the toad.

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In the FWIW dept., yesterday at Wm's Wharf on the East River of the Mobjack Bay of the Chesapeake Bay, I met a family who'd caught a bunch of small, but just eating sized spot. Maybe 25 or so, with a smattering of whiting and one croaker. In 8 years here, this is novel to say the least. Then, today at the Put In Creek boat ramp, I spoke with a guy and his wife in a cool flats skiff replete with trout lures. They were out early but only caught two dink trout. Also caught a ray and a whiting, but actually had a sea turtle, a big one both declared, take a bait. He fought it to the boat and they took pictures and cut the line. Never heard of such.

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Former State Director in FL had that happen when he was out fishing in the Gulf. His young son caught one.

When I was a kid I once found a seahorse in an eel pot way up the east river took a photo then released it back out and couldnt believe it.
That said I'm wondering if the trout simply arent up in the East this year as I cant find any in the actual river this year.

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There have been at least a few trout caught from the Wharf by the bait fishermen, and some out at the mouth of the East. I haven't even fished the docks in the East that I usually hit, getting too hot by the time I've tried the North docks I usually do well on. I do believe you're right to some extent, though, as most of the catches I'm hearing about are coming from the Ware and the Rapp while most of the boaters I speak to at the local Put In Creek ramp report little action despite a fair amount of pressure out there in the usual places. I do expect fishing to improve in the early fall, just because it so often does, but we also know that some people are catching fish and just not talking about it.

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I don't Know who may know, but my neighbor told me that up on the rapp at port royal you can find snakeheads in nearby creeks.. any truth to this anyone knows? I'd like to give it a try as it's only 45 min from my house

Yes, from following rappahanock river fishing facebook page. There's multiple guys posting in there about Snakeheads.

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It's loaded. If you keep them, make sure its a snek and not a bowfin.

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I've heard they're good eats.. but I'm just interested in the top water explosions on the fly!

Yeah, I might be going this weekend. The topwater explosions should be awesome.

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It's not exactly easy. It used to be. 5 years ago I would crush them in Aquia Creek. The fish have gotten much smarter. Plus there's so many bow hunters out there that they are very wary. I fished in my kayak and it is difficult to say the least dealing with lilly pads, particularly as the tide falls. You want flies that push and move a lot of water and make some noise, like a popper or Dahlberg Diver.

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Yeah I've got some jumbo double barrels. Will also bring my inshore spin gear with a hollow frog

They love Chatterbaits too

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I caught a redfish, finally. Three in fact. They are the best fish, period.

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Nice! Hopefully I'll get on a few next week.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

very nice!

Nice! I'm jealous!!!

Warning- Filter lost.

"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

STICK IT IN HAS RETURNED!!!

Finally kicked the skunk on the mobjack this morning, got up at 5 am and fished till 11 and managed the dink of all dink stripers I thought I had a clump of grass till I took it out the water. Maybe was 6 inches, got lots of little bites from others but they're too small to get my 2/0 swimbait hook. Hoped that the topwater bite might be on but no takes again looks like I need to venture out further to find a bigger fish.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Stupid hot out there today also. Fewest boats I've seen at the ramp in a few weeks, I guess nobody's doing all that well. River water heated up an awful lot in a quick time, I noticed, after staying cool much longer than normal. Don't know what the fish think of all that. My neighbor has been out a fair amount and not doing well at all in the East. He's often catching fish somewhere, though. Maybe the Ware, dunno.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

It's been a while since I've been south of Blacksburg in July. Damn, does it get this hot every year? I thought I was gonna die unpacking the car today...

Looks like I'm playing the odds with getting caught this week fishing the ponds in Hilton Head. Due to Covid, "ALL ponds closed to fishing", per Sea Pines management. So given that I'd be fishing on the sly anyway, I didn't buy a SC license. I wonder what my max fine is for fly fishing the pond behind our rental? Honestly, I don't really care. More than likely, I'll get a "hey, due to Covid, you can't fish, please stop", and I'll stop, no harm done.

I'll post pics of any fish I catch after I get home.

How is that closed to covid. Sounds moronic. Hope you slay em man

Like a lot of closures, it is moronic. The way I see it, I'll be more socially distanced by a pond at 5 am than at any other time or place this week. Screw it, I'm fishing.

Thanks for the well wishes. I feel like I have a decent chance at a pb largemouth, but I'll admit that the bar is pretty low (4 lbs.). Fingers crossed!