November 2020 fishing thread

I'll start off November with a nice success story!

Got out early this morning.. ok in the middle of the night. Left Richmond at 2:45 and was on the water by 4:30. I had initially planned to go after gator trout on a popular flat, but nothing was going on there. Headed to a spot with some deep pilings around 5:30 and caught an absolute bruiser striper at 26" on my first cast. By far the fattest striper I've caught to date. Ended up catching 3-4 more nice slot size fish until just after sunrise and the bite shut down. Found some fishy looking grass lines and picked up some rat reds, and another low slot striper.. moved on to a spot close to the ramp as the winds and dark clouds moved in and was pleasantly surprised when I nailed a 24" pup. Nasty weather set in and I was back to the ramp by 10. Drove home in the pouring rain, happy that I had caught some nice fish!

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Kudos for your intrepid approach. I've gotten old and lazy in my dotage, and the Rona and politics have been taking up a lot of my mental energy to the detriment of my usual fall enthusiasm. Also, my usual partners in crime have been absent from rotation, so I'm less likely to be spurred into action.
Thanks for the report and for starting a new thread.

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Guided yesterday. On the water at 8:15. Hit my two most successful docks, and the client, who was an avid bass fisherman, put the jig inches from the pilings each time. He was unbelievably good. At least 20 fish came to hand in 3 hours, including 5 consecutive puppy drum from the exact same piling. I ran 20 minutes into a very stiff breeze and chop to get him to a good trout spot for a slam. We were there for 5 minutes when the wind switched and the deluge started. Temp dropped 15 degrees immediately. We were soaked. He made three casts and said let's go home. On the way back going across the Rapp in some fairly serious swell, I took one wave over the bow. It absolutely covered him from head to toe. At least the water was warmer than the air. When we got back to the dock, the water was over it. Super high tide with the full moon.

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There was definitely a wall on that front yesterday.
Check out the tide gauge from Cambridge, MD...completely skipped high tide.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/waterlevels.html?id=8571892

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That's friggin crazy! That push from the front defeated the combined orbital mechanics of the earth and moon. Impressive.

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Even during full moon, King tides, and everything. It's been interesting watching them over the past few years. And this one just adds to the weirdness.

When Isaias moved in, the tide was going out...then spiked back up quickly. Like 2.5' in 30 minutes spike, during ebb.

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I declined slinger's invitation yesterday morning and opted for the shorter drive to Lake Anna by myself with the kayak. Caught 2 punk stripers off some small breaking schools before that front moved through and then it was dead. Talked to a guy as I was leaving who said 4 keepers were caught off the bank earlier that morning and he was fishing the night before and 12 keepers were caught in a matter of minutes.

What are you throwing when fishing for stripers?

I like to throw 4" swimbaits on jigheads or weighted swimbaits. Flukes are money as well. I've fished topwater a lot but found that when they're breaking and chasing baitfish, the subsurface baitfish imitations (flies included) outfish topwater by a good amount and have a much better hookup ratio. Not as good as topwater for searching for fish when they aren't breaking. But I've had limited success when they aren't breaking anyway unless you can see them on the fish finder (which I don't have on my kayak). Most of the fishing I've done is during the warmer months though in the dike 3 area of the lake and I've heard the topwater bite increases as it gets colder. I know people throw big plugs for them as well. Live bait is the best option on Lake Anna, but it's time consuming, messy, and you need a boat with good electronics and a bait tank with an aeration system. Trolling with big plugs or multi-arm rigs is also a productive option. But fishing for breaking stripers on light tackle from a kayak is a blast.

I have caught a ton of stripers on weighted swim baits. Key is to match the size to the forage and have the right color for the right conditions. I've caught them drifting swimbaits along the bottom, swimming them slowly cross current, and fast retrieving them higher in the column.
I've seen a bunch caught on umbrella rigs with different sizes on them, and it is interesting how many are caught on the smaller baits versus vice versa. The main key is, as you've said, finding them, and sometimes that doesn't even work. They turn on and off like a switch.

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In lake anna he had to be using either hand grenades or dynamite either fun selections.

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This probably should be an October report since I travelled home yesterday but I will put it here.

Sunday: I got a limit of bluefish on a stingsilver while trying to reach pods of albies. Two were caught.

Monday: I took my niece and nephew to the pier, so drum fishing wasn't happening. Things were slow to start, but my nephew caught two legal sized flounder (19 inches each) that had to be thrown back on a fish finder I rigged in hopes of a puppy drum.) Things started to pick up as the morning went on. My niece got some throwback trout, blow toads, and black drum, while my nephew got a nice sea mullet. As the morning went on, a spot bite started to slowly warm up. The kids left with their dad, and my parents joined me. We filled the cooler with spot. I fished for drum that evening. Four were caught, two by Nick Walke. No runs for me.

Tuesday: Sort of miserable weather. I managed a couple of bluefish. My parents and my niece got a couple of black drum. Nothing of any excitement.

Wednesday: I slept in, and then took my parents and my niece after lunch. My niece had used the baitcaster to fish straight down for spot up to that point (graciously provided by Fish), but there were bluefish around. She had never casted a spinning reel, but after a brief tutotail, she took to it like a duck out of water. She caught and released 21 bluefish, a lizardfish, and a spanish mackeral by 6:00PM.

Thursday: I tried to sneak in a drum in the morning before the big blow set in from Hurricane Zeta. I got a sea mullet and some spot to freshen up my bait. MissSusieCue wanted a lunch date, so when the SW wind picked up, I packed it up and went to Rundown Cafe for a shrimp bowl with MissSusieCue. While lunch with my boo is always a good thing, this was ill timed. Four fish got picked off.

Friday: Heavy north wind, and cold. No bottom fishing, so I threw 10oz for drum. The rays and sharks were MISERABLE. A handful of drum (I think three) were caught, but the sharks and rays cost me a fortune in sinkers. I did get some cool footage of a sand tiger next to the pier before she broke me off.

Saturday: There was a steady pick all day with about ten caught. Around 1:00PM, I finally got a run and it felt drummy. I got it over next to the south corner and she popped up. A drum (thank goodness!) The breakers were miserable (I was throwing 12oz pyramids) so I was being very gingerly with the fish. As I led it over to the net, a breaker hit and my shock knot (I was experimenting with an albright) broke. Fail.

So, I catch all kinds of grief. I put the Century to the side to retie and throw my Ballistic. Within about two minutes, it goes off. Same deal, but a heavier fish visible up on top. DRUM. I work it over, and now I am being extra careful (to the point that I could feel the south corner guys getting frustrated that I am still in their way.) About 50 feet off the corner, a big breaker hits and the line breaks. This time, it appeared that my line was knicked by a braided line that a kid with a spinning rod was using off the front. The break was well above the shock knot.

That was it for me the rest of the day. I left to have dinner with the family on our last night, and a few were picked off that evening and yesterday. Perhaps I will head back down this week if things look promising. There were still spot being caught at Buckroe right before the storm moved through, so I would assume a lot of big drum are still in the Bay.

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Can you post the sand tiger footage?

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My RVA buddy who gives me crap for making off the wall one-day random fishing trips to places like Cape Lookout went on one himself yesterday. He suggested I go and I turned it down... being an adult even for this well decorated sea captain sucks at times.

He hammered them. 30 albies and 30 inch blues on spin and fly in nice weather. Also missed a bull redfish on fly that showed up in a school on the shoals. I debated going today, but again, decided to put the nose to the grind stone.

My friends down there are just whacking the trout and big ones at that. I'll get down there soon for a week or so.

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We got on an albie bite today for an hour and a half or so. Lots of boats around. Managed to put 3 on the deck and pulled hooks on 2. They are so much fun. Might go again tomorrow and then trout fish the rest of the weekend.

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That makes me feel better that it wasn't on fire...

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We were looking around and then found the fleet later in the morning. So might have missed some of the earlier action. It definitely shut off early at lunch time. Boats were just waiting around for something to happen but we headed in. Scratched my itch and had a lot of fun.

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Go throw topwater on the flats for trout.

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Don't have to tell me twice haha. Mud flats or grass flats?

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From what I can tell, both.

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Happy to share with you guys a recent fishing trip I took to Lake Tawakoni, a freshwater impoundment consisting of 34,000+ acres located just east of Dallas. Tawakoni has been consistently stocked with hybrid striper every year making it a regional hotspot for those wishing to hook into freshwater's bruising Frankenstein. Hybrids, also known as Palmetto Bass, are shaped like a football and have tremendous pulling power lb for lb.

I personally have been fishing regularly since 2014 and had never been able to catch one of these brutes. Biologists realized years ago that they could take the milk from a white bass (sand bass) and mix it with the roe from a female Atlantic striper. What they were able to produce was a hybrid--a mean, stalky fish that packs a powerful punch and pulls drag till the cows come home. Hybrids have to be stocked every year or every couple of years, as it was also discovered that they are sterile and unable to reproduce. Most fish live to be 3-5 years old and the lake record has topped out at 15 lbs. Tawakoni was/is the closest location to me that promised the highest probability of catching some of these prized fish. They do not get quite as big as their half-brother stripers, however they usually stay deep as long as they can until the very end of the fight. Stripers, on the other hand, tend to surface as they pull your line.

This was the first time I have ever fished without children in my presence, so it was both surreal and relaxing. I missed having my kiddos with me to enjoy the moment, however me and two other dads hammered them for 3 hours on a beautiful Texas fall day. Below are a few pics:

Collectively, we landed around 20-25 fish, the biggest topping out over 7+lbs.

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That there is some good Eaton' Zoom!

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Nice mess o' wipers you got there, buddy. I always liked them because they are willing biters when found, and as you mentioned, they fight bigger than their size would indicate. One day, we got a 15 lb striper and a couple of 6 lb hybrids while walleye fishing light jigs on light tackle. The wipers both fought harder than the striper, and it wasn't even close. Claytor Lake has/had a fair population of them when I lived there.

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Thanks Fish! Caught them on an umbrella rig, artificial lures in around 12-18' depths of water. Mostly off of drops and edges, water temps were around 70 degrees.

If it ain't orange, it better be maroon...and if it ain't maroon, it better be soon!

Umbrella rigs with swim shad are hard to beat, especially if the fish aren't inclined to run the bait to the surface where you can cast to them.
Nicely done!

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So, it may be time to start "quitter fishing" (a term used by the big drum guys for the guys who give up on drum fishing to go chase speckled trout.) I was having a pretty miserable week, so I headed back to the Outer Banks to fish Thursday-Saturday.

Thursday- what can I say, it was a struggle. There were all the small bluefish and small trout (9-12 inches) you could catch, and almost no fish I could use for bait. I managed my limit of bluefish and plenty of throwbacks. I got a couple of spot. I didn't have a drum rod in the water, which sucks because there was enough overcast to have a chance. The wind also started to kick up, but the lack of sleep drove me to check in and get some sleep.

Friday- I got there for opening, and things looked pretty similar. I put a spot head on my Century then after setting the rod down I got my three bluefish limit on three casts with my new Teramar bait rod. I kept eyeballing down the pier, and it was the same deal- everyone throwing trout jigs and realing up 10 incher after 10 incher. I have been fooling around with tying some dropper loop bottom rigs instead of using up my sibikis, so I put one on and threw some fishbites off the north side of the end. I started with two spot, and suddenly the sea mullet bite turned on. I caught somewhere in the 50s, keeping small ones for bait, throwing back medium eating size ones, and giving big ones to people who were eating fish. I caught three in the 13-14 inch range, which was a ton of fun on the light rod.

Unfortunately, the drum fishing just wasn't happening. There was a smattering of southern rays, but they weren't big enough that they were breaking off. I also managed three small "purple biters" (a local name for a sandbar shark) and one small (maybe 3 and a half feet long) sand tiger- the smallest I have ever seen. I packed it up about an hour from close and got some sleep.

Saturday was supposed to have more NE wind, but it laid out over night. It was crystal blue skies, and kids were swimming in the 65 degree water without wet suits at 9:30AM. Not ideal drum conditions. The sea mullet bite was not hot, but the fish were bigger. I caught a half dozen big sea mullet (12.5 inches to 14 inches) on my fancy dropper loop rig and then sat down to watch my drum rod. I spent most of the day just burning through bait- the guys who knew what they were doing were sleeping before spending a night down at Avon while I was dealing with all kinds of nonsense. Once I burned up most of my bait, I gave a kid my last two spot and six smaller sea mullet and packed it up for home.

The bad news- no drum, and I had to listen to the blocked field goal debacle on head phones in a bathroom at the NC/Va border.

So, it is time to look to the light tackle winter fishing- hopefully some trout and puppy drum will be around, and maybe some CnR rockfish on lures in the Bay.

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The bad news- no drum, and I had to listen to the blocked field goal debacle on head phones in a bathroom at the NC/Va border.

Went golfing in the morning, then hit Dogfish Head to grab some beer...rolled into the driveway just as they were lining up for the first FG attempt. Heard the block and the run back...ran into the house to celebrate and relay the story real quick...went back out to grab the clubs and beer and heard "game action" still going. Ugh. Not to laugh, but at least I wasn't in a public bathroom. Love you French!!!!! Headed to Corolla for a week during Thanksgiving.

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Went down to NC for a long weekend, Thursday got out a little late because of dead battery, rode around awhile looking for albies and found the fleet and the albies were fired up for an hour and a half but then no more surface activity so we rode in. Hooked 5, landed 3 on Thursday. Switched out cheap trebles for VMC inlines and didn't have that issues Friday. Caught an albie first cast on Friday and got a second one quickly that I handed off to my dad. He got it to the boat and broke it off on the motor. They became real skittish and up and done real quick. Got one in the next couple hours. Not super hot bite but mission accomplished of getting pullage on light tackle. I went trout fishing Saturday, fished some new water. Caught a couple barely keepers trolling a zman diesel minnow, caught some dinks on the popping cork. Got back to the house to watch the Tech game. Should have kept fishing. I have an idea of how I can attack it next time. Blowing harder yesterday, I slept in and spent some time with the fam.

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Lord, I love albies. I have had them pop up a few times in my last three weeks of making trips, but they only got close once. Tom Harris got two. I couldn't manage any.

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They definitely get up and down quick. I'd imagine its very tough off the pier. You have a shot at them down there from sand

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Same with Rhode Island and Jersey. Man, I would love to get another one. I have hooked a couple and been schooled, but it has been since May, 1997 since my last landed albie.

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Yep, up north would be cool with stripers on plugs and albies from the beach. Definitely a possibility down in NC, I can give you more info privately if you want it.

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nice fish! and did someone say in-lines? : )

My sister and her hubby live in Morehead City and they just upgraded their boat...albies look fun...can they be had in fairly calm water in close?

i get motion sick real easy...like one time I got queasy fishing for bream in a cypress swamp just from wakes from jon boats.

Dave- while I am not experienced in that fishery, I am pretty sure a lot of the albies are caught inside of the barrier islands forming Cape Lookout, so the water shouldn't be as rough as the areas outside of the islands.

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thanks!

French is right. There are fish to be had in calmer waters. FlyGuy is most tuned in with the fishery. I'll let him chime in.

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There is one spot in the barrier islands that they are caught "inside" and that is referred to as the Hook, which is the western end of the beach at Cape Lookout. It remains calm in there unless its a hurricane. Apparently 15 years ago, the albies came in there every day. Now they come in sporadically. I caught them in the Hook earlier this season and that was the first time in several years for me. This is also where the "sand people" catch albies off of the beach. That is a pretty rare feat, and I've only had the chance to do it once. The fish have to be pushing bait up against the beach. My friend pulled it off this season. I'm sure if I spend all of next season down there (that's the plan), I'll be able to catch one from the sand. I would imagine they also show in Hatteras Inlet and Ocracoke Inlet but have never had reports of them being caught there.

Dave, picking and choosing your days to chase the Albies at Cape Lookout will be key if you get that seasick. They will eat when it is "slick cam" and they will eat in a hurricane. North wind is best to keep things calm and that's when the fishing is best too. A lot of it is simply searching for them. I get very sea sick myself but it is only in slow rollers when the boat is not moving.

For anyone spin fishing for albies, the latest lure craze the past few years have been Albie Snax. I imagine these would destroy a bass, bowfin or any other predator as well. I had a pack of them but they disappeared, need to get another. Great lures.

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Thanks for the better overview than I could have provided. Also if you are spin fishing from the sand with a 10' rod you can cast a casting metal a mile which gives you better odds than fly fishing. I bought the albie snax but didn't throw them. Threw a 3/4 ounce casting metal to imitate the silversides they were eating.

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The only time I ever fished for them was off of Wilmington. Fly fishermen were hooking and landing them but we spinners were struggling to land them because the Spanish were more numerous and they consistently cut the albies free by smacking the head of the lure while the albie was fighting. Yep, we could see it happening. Neither of us was able to land an albie, but I got a monster almost 8 lb Spanish in the boat. I was having no trouble hooking them on a 3/4 oz Crippled Herring metal jig, but they wouldn't touch anything with a steel leader, so we just stayed hooked up until all the right size and color jigs were gone, while the fly guys were having a ball. My buddy was impressed with the mackerel, but I was sorely disappointed not to get my first albie.

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8 lb spanish is a stud for sure. Something to be proud of. I haven't had a ton of experience fishing for albies but I did catch a nice King Mackerel on a casting jig in the middle of albie blitzes. Interesting the fly guys didn't get cut off.

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That's a toad of a spaniard. Albies and Spanish are leader shy. You can get away with 40 pound flouro and be alright for both.

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You definitely have a better shot at them with spin gear than fly, simply based on the wind. EXCEPT, when they are eating snot bait. The spinning tackle cannot imitate an inch long clear minnow like a fly can. Ten foot rod with a 4000 series reel and a lot of line would really cover some water. The Albie Snax looks incredible in the water. I don't know what they think it is but the action is probably what gets them. It would be smart to copy that lure and sell it to the bass crowd.

Based on your pic it looks like you got your albie right there at the end of the Hook.

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Yep, the snot bait is the game changer for the advantage of the fly guys. Mirrolure has come out with a soft plastic called the Lil John that is similar in profile. I've seen quite a few people touting it on instagram.

We were in the hook with the rest of the fleet. We explored the shoals the first day and went into the hook and found 50 other boats with quite a few charter boats I recognized. Went straight to the hook the second day didn't explore more because the boat wasn't running great. It would have been nice to get away from the fleet more and find our own fish.

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i've got some of the lil johns and really don't know how to fish them. Slayer makes one like that as well.

I have landed one and hooked maybe a half dozen. Five were on gotchas. One was on a zig jig. I still haven't hooked one on a tin (using mostly stingsilvers.)

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There's definitely something with the pier being so elevated that makes the gotchas work much better on the pier. I guess the lip of them helps keep them down versus the stingsilver style skipping across the water.

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Random question- does anyone know of any 8 foot baitcasting rods that are rated around MH but have a very fast tip? Something for jigging off a bridge is what I have in mind.

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The 8' part is tough. Maybe there's a cobia rod that could work in that spot. I know some guys are using tranx baitcasters.

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no, but based on your prior comments I picked up a 7'6" Triumph MH (spinning) to replace that Lamiglas Black that broke. Haven't fished it yet (could be awhile) but it feels good and balances well...flipped a 1 oz jig head 50+ pretty easy.

I love the triumph series 7'6" Medium and MH rods. I use them all the time for smallmouth, I think they make them in the mojo bass line still as well and I have one of them that's a medium weight with a 3000 series reel that's a bit heavy for it but it's killer for lots of things. Very fast action on the mojo line

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'Nator, you seem to be posting OK, how is the virus treating you? Young and healthy seems to be the ticket for escaping the worse, usually anyway. Hope you aren't suffering the many maladies associated. Rest of the family OK?

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Thanks for checking but we're finally on the other side of it. Finally got my second negative so officially im free from quarantine after three long abysmal weeks. Still not taste and smell and won't get it for who knows how long sadly. Luckily the wife didn't get it at all so we stayed healthy as can be but even young and healthy it's like a bad flu and kicked my ass for a week and a half after I foolishly tried to deer hunt one day. 10/10 would not recommend getting it most food and alcohol tastes like metal so my diets basically oatmeal and some pastas till I gain my senses back.
Looking forward to a weekend out of the house in the woods doing something different for a change.

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Thanks for the report and glad to hear you're on the mend. Don't push your return to normal activity, though. Folks I've spoken with who've had it and recovered can't stress that point enough. Happy also to hear Sally and your family avoided joining your plight.
We are scheduled for the third time to have a half hour with my wife's now 95 year old mother whom we haven't seen since last year. First two got nixed for viral reasons at the home where she resides so we're hoping the third time is the charm. Not looking forward to almost 4 hour drive for a half hour visit, then 4 back home, but...well...95, right?

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Haven't heard that but after today I believe what you've heard. Tried a day of hunting today to get out, nothing strenuous just sitting in a tree stand all day and I'm feeling it now. Kinda glad I left the woods empty handed I definitely don't feel quite back to myself and would agree with the advice the virus leaves you definitely not up to snuff like I usually do. If this is what getting old feels like ohhhhhh boy oh boy.

I still think covid has to have really hurt the elderly the most in limiting the social interaction which to me is vital at that age. Glad you all can get to visit still, as someone who values family above all anytime is well worth it! Ive spent many a hour at a nursing home this year talking to my wifes grandmother through the window as they can't leave and haven't left all year. Every moment counts!

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Well, getting old definitely sucks, that's a fact, but the virus just saps your strength for a while.
We would love to have visited her mom, but the retirement home she lives in is near Harrisonburg, and the virus was so bad up there from the beginning that the whole home shut down and even window visits weren't allowed. I know some folks who have been able to eat with their elderly in homes, and some are still riding the bus to Walmart, so I guess it depends on where you are. I know it was all done to protect the folks in the home, especially with the horror stories from other homes, but I also cynically know that those folks also have a vested interest in keeping those old folks alive. Either way, can't argue with the results, virus wise, but it has been hard not to be able to visit. Her mom also has a measure of dementia and doesn't have a good understanding of the situation, which is tough on all of us.
So anyway, take it easy, your strength and stamina will return, but don't push it.

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Think of fishing some VB inshore creeks on Sunday morning with hokiegigs.. think there will be any lingering flooding/ rain impacting fishing for inshore species by then?

I don't know. I am quarantined because a family member's office had some positives, so I thought about making the long trip up to ocean city to fish off the Route 50 bridge. But, I can't get motivated to make a 4 hour drive so I think i am going to shut it down until after Thanksgiving. Other than tomorrow night, the weather looks like garbage for the next few days. Tomorrow night the weather is awesome, but the ideal tide is at 1:15am.

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yep. can't do it. back is a wreck

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Love reading everyone's reports here. This month has been a helluva year so far at work, not to mention the awful weather we've had lately. Glad to see you guys gettin lines wet!

Warning- Filter lost.

"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

buddy and I scratched out 14 trout today to 17". the ramp was a zoo but the weather was finally good and this was the day he could go...so we did

trout should be steady, if small, unless/until we get big rain. reds think it's still July

edit: shrimp etouffe over pan broiled trout

I did not fish all spring or summer. But hare is a cool article about Fall Fish that was listed on the state records list this year. I thought I knew every FW fish in NA, I need to bone up on minnows!

Record Fall Fish

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

While I couldn't get the page you linked, I do know a bit about fall fish. Many a non-productive trout fishing foray was saved by the hard fighting stream dweller, and many a hard bite and good fight spoiled when the silver flash revealed not a trout but an oversized minnow. It's a mountain thang.

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I want to go to Ocean City so bad. This week last year produced big time schoolie striped bass fishing. But, between my back and safety on the eve of Thanksgiving with family, I am hunkering down.

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We are masking up and going to Corolla for a week. Planned on just making all food there for the entire week, except for Turkey Day dinner that we're grabbing to go.

Looking to sit on the beach in front of the house and toss line into the surf with 5 teenagers. Any go-to bait that will serve best? I would love to catch keepers, but at this point, it's as much about the fresh air, time with family, and just enjoying it. Bloodworms? Shrimp? Cut squid? Clams?

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Fresh shrimp or fresh mullet. Soft plastics on jigheads for trout.

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Concur. Cut bait this time of year is a good way to get bit, and fresh mullet will catch just about anything.
Best of luck down there. I got Covided out of my time there this fall.

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Corolla is a bit far north. If you have calm waters, the gulp-jighead combo isn't a bad idea. With bottom fishing, the best hope is some late season sea mullet and puppy drum action. There were some big sea mullet before the blow hit last week.

If you want the best fishing, head south to Hatteras and fish south of the Point. But, that is a long long long drive from Corolla.

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Hunkering down at the house, just to be safe, and will have plenty of beer right there for enjoyment!!!
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It isn't a bad plan. If you want, I can check out and see if Bob's Bait and Tackle is reporting anything.

But I really think trout will be the best option. White 4 inch gulp and 3/4 oz jigs, dragged in close. Never a bad idea

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For what it is worth, they are still catching nice trout and puppy drum sunrise and sunset down there off the beach.

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Does anyone else use fishing tackle backpacks? I have been using free bags I get from conferences for years. The good part with those bags is that they are free. But, they are not very sturdy and don't tend to have organizing tools (spoots for line, holders for pliars/scissors, hard case for sun glasses) or the structure to handle heavier stuff (sinkers during a shark canyon day during drum season.)

I also have no idea what to tell Susie I want for Christmas (I have a huge list, none of which are needs), so a tackle backpack seemed to make sense. Do any of you use them, and what should I budget for something that can hold two hard cases and at least 10 8oz sinkers?

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I've got the camo Camo Piscifun fishing backpack and it's not bad. I use it for primarily beach and saltwater fishing in a kayak and from the beach. It can carry two large clear tackle boxes and has lots of straps and pockets for all the tools. I carry my pliers on a leash in a holster clipped to the bag with snippers as well. It can even hold rods as well so I can carry multiple setups at the same time.

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On the smaller side, but I've had a Yogayet for years for wade and pond fishing. It's good quality, but you're not getting a ton of gear in there. Perfect for 2 small plastic cases, some bags of worms, pliers and a few other things.

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What I will carry-
1) 1 spool of 20lb mono (800 yards) and 1 spool of 50lb mono
2) A black hard case with all my drum terminal tackle (3 inches thick, 6 inches wide, and 10 inches long, give or take)
3) A small (5 x 5) soft case with light bottom rigs and sinkers
4) One plastic box with gotchas, trout jigs, and stingsilvers
5) Pliers, Braid Scissors, Zip Lock Bags, and snacks.
6) Assorted 8, 10, and 12oz pyramid sinkers. I usually keep them in a travel pouch I got on international flights.

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The one above will be a touch too small, but this sounds like it might work (just barely). They have a backpack version that's larger and would be a safer bet. I've owned some of the larger ones over the years and never had a problem. Actually, they've been fantastic. Should have thought of that first.

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Anything worth fishing in the mobjack with the warmer weather lagging around? Going to be in the area next week and debating on bringing my specks gear or not.

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Green Top is saying folks are still catching trout in the Rapp, so I guess it's worth a try in the Mobjack. Most folks around here are looking for schoolies at this point.

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I was told the rockfish are still above the White Stone Bridge in the Rapp.

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I was out there this weekend trolling (yuck) on a friends boat. There were fish being caught upriver of RT. 3 bridge. I think the next week or so it should move out to the mouth more.

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I'll mess a bit since warmer temps will be around later this week I guess hopefully I can find one or two wandering trout to entertain me. Good ol' gulp should do the trick.

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There should be some sitting in the mud in your creek. Keeps that water warmer.

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I will also give a nod to flyguy's Bass Assassins as well, especially for stripers on docks. I know he had success with them this summer and they worked for me as well. Not well enough to knock Gulp out of the running, but a really good bait when the Gulp is getting shredded and the wallet isn't fat (man, I miss those days of getting $500 per day, usually cash, to fluff that wallet out). Give 8 bucks worth of Gulp tails to dinks!! And those BAs don't get shredded but still give one a chance at good fish as well, as flyguy's reports indicate.

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My Hokie trout neighbor got a 19" speck yesterday, along with 25 short stripers and a 15" puppy drum, so there are still fish nearby. I was scheduled to fish today, but as so often happens, a nice, calm, warm and sunny forecast turned into showers early, then freakin' small craft advisories. Oh well.

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Ya think standard stuff will still work ie gulp and swimbaits or when it gets colder do they need more cranks and hard baits??

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My neighbor seems pretty resolute about fishing Zoom Super Flukes on a 1/4oz jig head. He's been fishing docks, still, in the East and the Ware.

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If you have suspending lures, those work well because they stay in the strike zone longer than a jighead. However, I've caught trout in 47 degree water on a jighead and zman. Just work the lure slower is the general theory. Vary your twitching cadence.

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Gonna go pickup a few suspending baits as I have zero in my box. Havent bought any in maybe a decade so will probably grad a few mirrodine mr17s in some pinks and blues and see what works. Figure the 3/8 size in 808 or other bait patterns should work. I'll probably stick to the kayak and drag either a gulp or swimbait behind as that will be about the pace that should work I think. Hoping the warmer weather and some sun later this week will get creeks warm enough to give me something to chase mid-day.

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Madrigras is the money color that most of my trout friends prefer in the bay. The skins series is also popular very natural look. Electric chicken is always good. Remember MR17 sinks at 0.5 ft/second so countdown to how deep you are fishing before you start fishing.

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I'll see if I can find the pro ones since theyre the ones with those skins on them. Gonna see what bass pro and greentop have in stock I only wanna grab one or two for now till I figure them out. I figure I'll mostly be throwing it blind and just see what we can find, havent been down in a while but I'd imagine the water has cleared a bit so should need to be a bit more stealthy. Thanks for the tip on the sinking I didnt know that actually I figured they were like other suspending baits that would more or less sit at a level.

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Yeah don't go down the rabbit hole of buying all the hardbaits. I've loaded up this year and now have enough to last me ten years lol. The 808 color that you mentioned has also been a classic producer. MR18 sinks at a 1 ft/sec so would use that in the 5-10 ft range.

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I did that a few years ago on Z-man baits and I still am running on them with no end in sight. I snagged a mardigras and electric chicken mr17 in the pro series mirrodine series and I'll experiment this weekend. Greentop has a decent selection and pricing compared to bass pro. I wont be fishing that deep of water probably as I'll be looking in creeks for fish warming on mud at high tide most likely. Might do some dock fishing but I'll try creeks and see what I can find.

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Yeah the plastic will get kinked up in the package before the fish tear those zmans up. Yeah greentop does have a solid selection of mirrolures. That sounds like a solid plan.

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Kistler Rods is having their best sale of the year right now as an fyi. Their helium 3 line is $100 off - I love their light-medium-heavy option, it would be fantastic inshore rod imho. The MH is great for handling stronger fish, while not sacrificing overly on the sensitivity.

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Fished the stretch below bremo bluff yesterday, man deer season makes fishing this time of year on the rivers lovely with everyone in the woods and no one on the water. Snagged a dozen nice fish all in wintering spots, 6 of which were over 2 pounds and one 3 pounder along with a toad of a 4 pound 2 ouncer. Nice to still see a few big mamas out there feeding hard and good to know they still exist after a shaky and poor summer of fishing the cold weather seems to bring out the bigger fish.

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Shhhhhh! Those fish are available all winter, water and weather permitting. A dozen is a big haul for cold water, but the big fish will feed and hang out in the good eddies and near the rocks on a sunny day, if slack water is there and deep enough. Pocket eddies can be productive as well. Boat control (and cold water safety) will be the key, and the fish will be dead ass on the bottom, unlikely to chase, and looking for an easy, slow moving meal. Used to be "jig n pig" time, but these days, it's tubes, tubes and more tubes. If you got them on anything else, it won't be working for long, but the tubes will work all winter.

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I'd worry but most people dont want to put the work in for the fish this time of year it can be slow and cold which keeps alot riff raff off the water. Once the James gets to below 47-48 degrees we typically stay home. That said since deer huntins been crap I figured a nice day out on the river would be worth it and after yesterday I can say it was well worth it usually this time of year one fish is a nice reward but yesterday they were a bit more active and we had a blast. I have yet to ever catch a fish on a pig jig, something something user error I'm sure but I love tubes so I find fish a plenty. The above fish was just above 3 pounds and gave us a nice jump(heart attack inducing) and the 4 pounder made us think we had a carp until he did the same. I would post a pic of his fish but I dont like putting up photos of anyone aside from myself for privacy reasons.

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As for the jig n pig, I can vouch for what it used to do, but it is true that almost nobody is still fishing them, at least on the New. The best jigs were not commercially available, so we poured and tied our own. Used to be Uncle Josh's #11 brown pork tails were the ticket. We'd trim the pad some to get an orange-ish color in the mix, split the tails to the pad for more action, and then we'd spray scent on them periodically. Caught a ton of nice smallmouth on them. Then, Zoom came up with their "pig" trailers, and Uncle Josh probably went out of business. Different colors were available and you didn't have to deal with the pork, a pain in the ass to remove and store, and a jig killer if you forgot and let it dry. Same deal, we trimmed the pig pad and split the tails. Of course, still used scent.
Then, one trip with some guides on a spring foray, my boat mate was using a big fat tube and while he was a demonstrably worse fisherman than me, bad casts, inattentive and casual, he caught about the same number of fish as I did. Opened my eyes and with few exceptions (Chuck Kraft didn't make the transition to tubes for a lot longer than most of us), I became a tube guy. I still have a bunch of the old jigs I poured and tied, but doubt they'll ever hit the water.
Were I to surmise, I'd say that the jig n pig was a crawfish imitation. Period. The tube, however, while also evoking the motion of a crawdad when properly fished, adds in evocation of sculpins and other bottom feeding minnows, and when swimming, other baitfish.
Sorry to digress, just got to thinking about it.

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I've heard alot about the pig jigs and hear alot of talk about them working for largemouth as well but its a method I have yet to successfully attempt. But as you said tubes tend to cover the spectrum better this time of year as well and imitate endless baits like a senko does in enough ways that they just flat out work. I've moved from a 4 inch to a smaller 2-3/4" one and gone to a weedless tube hook instead of a worm hook like a texas rig which I still use in the summer when I need more weight.
This time of year the crawdads should be buried and out so I try to use more fishy colors and less browns and more gold and greens and blues to imitate sculpins and other bait fish as I imagine they arent so keyed to crawdads at this point.
I used to use pork rind on bucktails for stripers before god blessed soft plastics and it was always a pain in the ass royally. It got everywhere and stunk and was not any easier than a wet eel to get on the hook. These days if I want a crawdad imitation I just grab a pack of zoom twin tail grubs or crawdad bait and roll just fine.

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I think those crawfish will come out on really sunny days, especially if rocks heat up with the sun. All I know is that jig n pig was the winter time king for us for an awfully long time.

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Mightve explained why we caught a few out and about on a few flats by some deep holes. I snagged one chunky 16 incher who was in around 4-5 feet on a flat ledge above a deep hole who was stuffed to the gills from feeding. I was trying to walk the bait into the hole naturally and he hit just as I hit the bottom and completely caught me off guard.

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That's a great smallie for sure. Pretty work!

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Now that is a football.

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One day I will go north into the great lakes to chase the true northern giant footballs.

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The smallies I caught on my several trips to the Susquehanna were noticeably more like footballs than the New River variety. Maybe not Great Lakes football fat, but they were definitely sporting some different genes than our Virginia smallmouth.

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The wife and I have a goal to catrch a 5 pounder and if ever lucky enough to catch anything near 6 before we leave the earth that would be the holy grail. Once we can pick a location were looking somewhere in the fall feeding to try and hit up the st. Lawrence or somewhere similar for the smelt hogs and see if we can find some footballs then.

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Those fish are more abundant in the New than the Susquehanna, I think. While I had more 5+ fish than I can explicitly recall numbers-wise, they were relatively rare, no doubt. 6 pounds, though, is a tough threshold to cross, in my experience. I fished the James for almost 10 years, and the New for the next 26 years, and I remember every 6 I was ever around. The biggest in my guiding years was 6-4, and we only had one other 6 and a 5-13 at the top end. I'll not bore you with my "big one that got away" story, which blew three experienced smallmouth fishermen's minds, but I really think that the New still is the closest place to have a realistic shot at a 5-6 lb smallmouth.
But for the upper end...I agree that the Lakes is where to go. Dale Hollow in Tenn. was a holy grail place for a long time, sporting the world record, but north is where to go if you want to travel.

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The wife has one than was near 4 but almost 23-1/2 long and I nearly stroked out on that one if I ever see a true 5#er I may pass out if it comes to hand. I've seen a few hogs in the New and James but they always look bigger in the water I swear so its hard to say if they were that large but I figure I stick around my wife long enough she'll snag one eventually. I've got family up north and a new in law who does alot of smallmouth fishing on the st lawrence and after seeing some bragging photos I'll be having to try that place out one day.

I've lost a solid 4 pounder at the boat and that ruined damn near the whole week after for me lord have mercy if I ever miss on a 5 or god forbid a 6 pounder.

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Whoo! What a football! Nice fish!!!

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Got out in the freezing ass cold 65 degree weather yesterday morning. Wind blew 10-15 all damn day and I just could not find anywhere to hide from it effectively. All I ended up with was one jack crevalle, but he was an absolute stud that damn near ripped the fly rod right out of my hands when he hit. Only the second time I've been into the backing on that rod. Other than that, I hooked myself a few times (once was a spoon fly that came VERY close to being EXTREMELY painful to men everywhere, and left a good sized/colored mark on my inner thigh), only drew blood once though.

And then had a little chat with the FWC officer that is almost always at that launch when I get back... "did you keep anything?" "Well sir to be honest, ever since the Army Corps released that Lake O water in October, I havent caught anything to think about keepin... "

Maybe I'll fish Goodland on Friday and get away from the nasty water and hope for good winds.

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A tank jack is nothing to scoff at ever since I caught a few last year I got hooked. This upcoming spring I'll be back on captiva and will be trying to catch a big one for the shore if they'll come in close enough I've been trying to find a good bait to chuck for the big ones that roam typically just offshore but come in on incoming tides to feed in the surf in droves. Saw a few schools of huge jacks last year but I didnt have anything to reach them with that was suited to handle their strength. Not gonna try that with medium medium heavy stuff.

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He was definitely fun! Damn thing seriously almost took my rod, it was a heart stopper when it hit.

If you find finger mullet, you'll be good for those bruisers. They typically hit them before anything else gets the chance.

Let me know when you get to Captiva and maybe we'll get a drink if I can get my work schedule to not be as crazy as it is right now.

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Man oh man, Cape Lookout has been on FIRE. I drove down last Wednesday morning and arrived at 10 am to meet my clients who wanted me to drive their brand new 2020 Crevalle 258 CC and teach them how to fish the area. We're talking a $150,000 tricked out boat with a Yamaha 300, all the bells and whistles and tower. I spent two days cruising around with these wealthy guys and showing them how to albie fish with flies and search for reds along the beaches. We ended up catching one 12-14 pound albert, two slot reds, and the typical five pound albies over two days. We ran all over the place but most of the action was at the Hook. There was so much bait pushed up against the sand it was outrageous. French, mid to late November with a north wind is a great time to get one from the sand. It would have been easy on fly or spin. The fish were at the anglers' feet. The best part is the ferry will drop you off right there.

Overall, had good times with them, with the exception of the final parking job. The owner told me he had to be on an important call and told me to hurry up and get him up to the dock. I said I preferred to take it easy, he said, hit the gas and shoot me up there so I can step off. Well I did and the current drifted us hard into the dock corner. I pushed hard off with my hands but we had too much momentum and the boat slammed the dock, denting the metal rub rail and putting a three inch crack in the gunnel. It should have been worse with how much I saw it flex. Talk about anxiety. After his call, he was cool about it and still invited me over for bourbon and fly fishing discussion.

Friday was slow with perfect weather. So many damn boats on the water. I caught a few Bluefish around shark island and cruised the east side looking for old drum. I found 6 inch grey trout on the bottom with a spoon and hooked in one cast, a cormorant, a 14" whiting and a stingray. Yes, in one cast. The cormorant was caught in a three hook bottom rig, connected to the dead whiting, which was connected to the live sting ray, in 40 feet of water. The cormorant could barely keep it's head above water. After some work with the pliers, the cormorant flew off, the stingray swam away and the whiting sank. I'll take whatever world record that is. I took a nap on shark island and was awoken by f-18s doing barrel rolls over me. Concluded the day tied up to a few friends boats in the hook drinking seltzers and bourbon. It was fun.

Saturday was perfect weather day and I knew there would be 90000 boats out looking for albies. I decided to run up the back side of the cape to some of my redfish spots. It paid off. Over 3 hours I had my best redfish day ever down there, 22 hooked with 17 landed, all on fly, 20-27". There was a 40" bull drum in there but he would not eat. I hooked so many redfish that my favorite St. Croix 7 weight rod broke at the grip, pretty unusual. Hopefully they replace it. I'm not sure I'll ever have a day like that again. The fish wanted small and dark flies and lightly weighted. They were not easy, and quickly spooked, but a well placed cast worked out great. It was just insane.

Sunday I returned to the same spot but the weather man got it wrong. Partly cloudy was instead full on cloudcover and rain. I only landed three. For some reason the mosquitos were out and were vicious. I wanted to explore another creek down but the weather made it impossible.

Monday and Tuesday I fished with some new local friends. We found red drum in the surf on spin gear and tons of albies on fly off of Emerald Isle, including a 19 pounder. Damn that was a toad. Back in RVA for today and tomorrow and then back down to the Cape Friday through Sunday to guide the rich guys again. I won't be parking the boat.

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Overall, had good times with them, with the exception of the final parking job. The owner told me he had to be on an important call and told me to hurry up and get him up to the dock. I said I preferred to take it easy, he said, hit the gas and shoot me up there so I can step off.

That sucks and is pretty stupid from the owner's standpoint. Can't be much difference in cell reception from the dock vs the tower of the boat

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Awesome report! Glad the fishing has been hot. I will be down there this long weekend.

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Pretty work

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Well, after reading flyguy's report, mine seems pretty trivial, but had a fun morning with my Hokie trout neighbor. We fished Diggs wharf to start with, caught 8 18" stripers, on plastic with jig heads. Then headed to the Ware for my friend's favorite docks. Lo and behold, he and flyguy have found the same ones. We got 5 more stripers, with one being a real dock toad, maybe 10-12 lbs. He'll send me the measurements. Also got one 15" redfish (water was 52 in the East, a couple degrees warmer in the Ware). I had a big fish on myself, but it pulled loose, and had one come hot after my pink fluke as I was speeding it in for another cast. Put a hole in the water bigger than a trash can lid, didn't get a size, but it was a nice one.
All of the fish were at least somewhat oriented to docks or pilings, some closer than others. Short morning, but a lot of fun.

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Sounds like a solid morning on the water hopefully I can find a few of those fish or some relatives of them later in the week. Sounds like alot of success on the soft plastics, no gulp this time?

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Those fish were around the docks, so if you hit enough of the them, you might find them. We didn't catch any trout, and my friend says they've been almost gone the last couple of weeks. We were both surprised at the red, thinking the water too cold for them. That's why I left the Gulp alone. No need feeding it to stripers. They'll eat anything if it's presented decently and they're on the feed, so I didn't need them. I used a saltwater bass assassin, not the color flyguy uses, mine were sea shad with a chartreuse paddle tail. They looked good and did the trick. My friend stuck with a couple of different super flukes, but his big fish came on pink. He threw a 6" fluke some too looking for a big fish, but he only got a couple of 18" fish on it. We did well at mid-tide (falling), but they shut off when it got low.

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Dang sounds like you were using my favorite bass assasin color its caught me alot of trout and a few stripers. the reds even like that color if present slowly. I'll look in the creeks for some trout but going to break out the waders and kayak and see what we can find. Dug up a bag of mixed flukes last night and packed them since you've always remarked how good they are so maybe we try that too. Suprised the water is only 52 but should stay warmish till saturday it looks like.

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he and flyguy have found the same ones.

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Well, it's in his back yard and he has a bigger boat, so there's that. He did show me a couple of new ones, but the best dock in the Ware was one of the ones you and I fished. Diggs was the winner for numbers, though. We didn't even work on them, spent maybe 20 minutes and left after 8 fish to head to the Ware. And the bass assasins worked great at Diggs, but flukes were the bait in the Ware. Go figger. My buddy said his biggest trout, red and rock this year all came from flukes. He uses baby bass color primarily, with pink his second favorite.

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Not sure if it the smart play, but my rule of thumb has always been flukes for a vertical presentations and jigging, and shads (BAs, StormShads) for current/swimming the bait.

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If fishing from a pier or something, maybe, but they seem to work well with a jerk and twitch retrieve. I would think that reds on the bottom would want a lure down there, but my friend caught today's red and his biggest of the year with the jerkbait retrieve. It was more productive for the stripers today, for sure. I tried a little Gulp on the bottom and jigging the fluke on the bottom to no avail.

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Interesting

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I joke obviously. He can have the docks all to himself. I hope to be guiding full time in Cape Lookout next year. The way life has been lately, we shall see...

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And, of course, I jested in return. My buddy took me to the docks because he'd lost a big fish there a few days before and was rewarded this time with the 28" rock. It's the first time I'd been there since we fished together, and he got a laugh when I told him those docks were a focus of our trip. While I hope you get a chance to fish around here again, and that I get a chance to fish with you for fun (my wallet thinks Hoover is back in office) before my advancing age causes me to give it all up, I do envy you your experiences down south and totally understand why one would want to guide where the guiding's good. What do you plan to do for the winter? Like one of my clients told me when I was griping about not being able to make money in the winter guiding, Walmart is always hiring greeters. (HEAVY /s)

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That's still a solid day Tom. I always have to remind myself, comparison is the thief of joy. Nice to have a big fish to really put the cherry on top for the trip. I'd assume a big striper was after your lure. Shows the fast presentation can be what they want sometimes. I've had trout and striper hit it when I'm quickly retrieving a mirrolure back.

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Yep, no problem with my joy today. I really enjoyed being out and getting bit. The striper turned out to be 28" that my friend caught, with a large mostly digested fish in its stomach, and I'm pretty sure the one that missed my fast retrieve was at least that size. It was a prodigious boil for the circumstances. I dropped the lure immediately but the fish never showed again, though we beat the water to a froth for a few minutes. Those 18" fish were a ball on light tackle for me as well, and it was cool to find them on the docks rather than chasing birds to Tangier Island. My friend's boat is nice also, with a trolling motor so we could position well. And while I had no fish to clean today, I also had no boat to clean!

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Nice!!!

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