We are obviously expecting some attrition in the coming days and weeks. Will try to keep a running list. To begin:
1. Elijah Bowick
#Hokies redshirt freshman WR Elijah Bowick has entered his name into the NCAA's transfer portal, per a source. Has not played during his time at Tech.— Mike Barber (@RTD_MikeBarber) November 25, 2020
2. Quincy Patterson
3. Darryle Simmons
Justin Fuente says QB Quincy Patterson is planning to enter the transfer portal. Said he got hit on the thumb last week at Pitt might not have been able to play anyway.Also says WR Darryle Simmons has decided to transfer. Said he might go the I-AA route. #Hokies— Andy Bitter (@AndyBitterVT) November 30, 2020
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Thanks for getting this started. I think it's a good idea to have an aggregated list (edit: in addition to individual threads, as per joe below)
that said, SUCKS about Bowick. really wish his career here had gotten off to a healthier start because i think he really could've been a difference maker
Really disappointed that he was suspended and didn't produce. They showcased him in the spring 2019 as an early enrollee because he clearly had some physical gifts that made him stand out. I was excited to see him play. Not getting on the field when the corps of receivers was so thin was a big red flag.
Hasn't he been injured most of his time on the team? I was really hopeful for him because he looked like a beast.
Yes, but nobody has ever said what the injuries have been. According to the announcement, he had been suspended for a violation of team rules.
Bowick s dad posted on TSL that he blew his knee out before Duke 2019
I believe he had some post surgery photos on Instagram as well - he was just starting to be himself physically.
"he tore his ACL and damaged his meniscus while redshirting last season. He was only cleared to return to football activities last month..."
Exactly. The decision to leave seems premature at best given that context, but I don't know the whole story either.
Normally I think the standard operating procedure is to create a new thread each time, but if the rumors are true.... we don't have time to start that many threads.
Bowick wasn't really on my radar as a transfer guy but I also didn't know he was suspended so that really sucks.
I'm also in favor of a thread for each, at least the more prevalent ones when they happen because it's a different discussion for each.
Only thing is, if the rumors we are hearing are true, this could become a really lengthy thread.
Best wishes to them, wherever they end up next
Current rumor mill: more wide receivers, Mitchell, Tre, multiple QBs, some NFL opt outs as well
I have not heard anything regarding defensive players. Take that how you wish.
would Tre and Mitchell be NFL opt outs?
Both are wait and see who ends up at VT or transfer.
well at least the positive of this is that they're willing to hear out the new coach before making a decision
Disappointed in Mitchell not wanting to play uva.
It's Fickell for me to believe VT will get the right coach. Jamey they could close the deal on an old school style coach, or make a Leopold of faith.
You sound like a real Elliot when you do this.
what a shane
Why do you guys Carroll so much about who is our next coach?
Franklin, my dear, I don't give a damn who it is as long as the hire brings back respect to a venable position.
Fleck this. I have no clue what you guys are talking about. Also, Happy Thanksgiving, whether it is Frost(y) or warm where you live. Make sure you Lovie on your families.
Are you guys still Mullen over who the next coach will be?
I just don't want it to be a harbaugh hire
(Lol this one doesn't even have to be a pun)
I'm done. There's nothing Leftwich to care about.
It can't just be any ole Tomlin, Dickey or Heupel for the Vicktory. I'll be Beaming when we Clawson our way back to the top.
Groh up, y'all.
I am going to drink a few Buds and Ponder this.
You are going to Madden me if you keep this up. Stop with all of these shanahan-agans. Let's just take a time(cop)-out and freeze this for a while.
Let's just say there's a Chancellor that the grass is Green-er or more Flower-ly on the other side, maybe even a Grove over there too, where the King and the Royal-s live. We would all be Freeman if we took that route. I would hate to Teller you that we should Settle for less. Nevertheless, we should keep out a Keene eye, as it is important that we can a-Ford the next coach as well. We don't want to have to just Chuck a selection out there that doesn't work and all of the sudden have to go back to asking our Dadi what to do next. Let's just make our list Fuller and Fuller and Fuller and Fuller. I'm just so Tyrod of this taking so long; it's looking Grimm. The good days seem Worilds away now. I'm going to go Frye some bacon and cook up a Bird to eat now.
Did you look into your cristobal or something
Yes, I did. The light was Beamer-ing out of it.
Mitchell wouldn't go pro? I assumed he was going pro regardless.
Wow I would have thought Mitchell was draftable
Geez, are we going to be able to field a team for the last two games? Unreal.
Can't wait until we beat UVA on a Knox Kadum wheel route to Tahj Gary.
This would be a very VT thing to happen.
At this point, I'd just lie (well, partial truth) saying covid cases are too much of a problem and claim we can't play them. Dabo can whine all he wants
Yeah, cauz nothing says "I don't want our program to be considered soft" quite like bending the truth to avoid playing a tough game.... /s
It's like Fu was digging his own grave and got tired so the players are picking up shovels and saying "here, we'll help!"
can't see any way Fu isn't fired after this impending exodus
Would you want to risk getting hurt playing for a lame duck staff that considered this a throwaway year?
Of course not. Can't blame em one bit.
Do you think Whit does the equivalent of an exit interview for guys who transfer? It would be dangerous if he just let Fu handle it and took his word for the reasons.
I think if 5 or more promising guys put their names in the portal, Whit doesn't even need to do an exit interview to understand what's going on. Hell, 2 or more of our more promising guys (like Tre, Mitchell, and or Patterson) should tell him what he needs to know.
Darrisaw should be announced soon
As an opt out or transfer? Seems like he's an opt out, get ready for NFL candidate.
This was my thought too
Opt out NFL like you said
He has nothing left to prove with the way he's played this year. I hope he goes in the first round to Dallas or a non-NFC East team
No Dallas, pls.
Fine, we'll take Farley instead
I've seen multiple mocks with Farley and Darrisaw going in the 1st.... gotta be good for VT...
He needs to go get healthy and get his money.
FYI he says that's not true:
Sure sounds like the locker room has quit on this staff for the second time.
Maybe we can just have Sports Illustrated come in a write another article about us. /s
It starts now /s
It start snow
It's tart snow
It's tarts now
It's tarts now....an Englishman approves!
I thought a storm was brewing too. Didn't realize it was a giant sh*t storm.
Not decent. Think I will cry like bubbles 🥺
The solution is obviously to get rid of beef patties, for turkey burgers. /s
Fans have opted out on the coaching staff so why not the players? Let the coaches take the field and risk their healthy and bodies
Wonder how Fuente will spin all of these opt outs/transfer portal entries....
Uhm, he can't control the perceptions of other players
Covid
Winner, winner, turkey dinner
As the program free fall seems to continue, I think we still have a bit to go to rock bottom. Not sure of the progression, but I think it's shit show and then dumpster fire, before rock bottom. After hovering in the shit show neighborhood, we may now be descending towards dumpster fire. Time will tell. Dec. 16, #MaketheMove.
Probably worth mentioning with things like the transfer portal and opt outs that these guys can change their minds, possibly more than once. So an opt out, or likely portal entry may flip at the last second.
Just a reminder that this is likely a very emotional and fluid situation.
But didn't Fuente say that players who enter their names in the transfer portal are not welcomed back?
Link
The quote in the article very clearly says "case by case basis". Not a program policy
So....do we have the buyout money lined up?
I just really want to know from all the people who supported this staff the last year or two, was it worth waiting it out?
Firing fuente before this year would have been premature. That is not to say that fuente should have made other changes.
The smug "I told you so"s are the second worst part of this whole thing, after the all the losing.
I did not understand when people who wanted to cut bait two years ago. I do not understand how speaking with the benefit of hindsight changes anything.
There is a universe where the circumstances outside of this staff's control are different, and this season is very different as a result. That being said, it's the inability to adapt that has proven to be the sticking point with the majority of the fan base.
Yes.
Well this I don't get
The question is BS as worded because it is purely based on hindsight. Was it worth it? The better question is was the decision to not fire Fuente after three years, one of which we were in the ACC championship, the right one? Yes it was. The rest is hindsight and a bullshit I told you so argument.
Yeah it was a dumb question, just couldn't tell whether you thought the past two seasons were worth it or not
Hi there! I supported Fuente, tentatively, for the last two years. I thought it was too early to pull the plug after 2018 but I'm on record back then saying that Fuente was making a mistake by keeping Cornelson on staff. I thought then that the offense had better get really good in a hurry to justify no staff changes. I doubted if this staff could succeed but still thought it was too early. After 2019 I was much less enthused by Fuente and his staff but with some new blood coming in I was interested to see what would change and remained cautiously optimistic that the offense was still en route. (though, I had my doubts because, Corn). 2020 was the last true litmus test for me and the staff has failed quite miserably.
Am I happy with where we are now? No. Was it worth it? Hard to tell. I still think firing him before this year would have been premature. But I will be livid if he is employed beyond Christmas.
Do you feel better for being right? Because I had suspicions this is where we were headed but I was willing to give Fuente some more time to prove me wrong. He didn't. I don't feel great about it. But it's time to move on and start over. That's the nature of college football.
Go Hokies!
For me it was a slow loss of faith in him over the last three years. The great offseason roster purge in 2018 was alarming, but I figured it was just an inevitable culture change as the staff molded the program toward their vision. Then the ODU loss and miserable 2018 season. The ODU loss was inexcusable, but overall I knew the roster was young and we had better days ahead. 2019's near collapse early on made me start having serious doubts about Fu, and I really questioned if he was going to truly be "the guy" after that and ever since. I think after how poorly the 2020 recruiting class finished, and then finally losing all of the stars in the 2021 class earlier this year and having little to no traction with any 4 stars was the last straw for me. I figured we would see a decent team and some improvement on O this year with our OL recruiting and experienced roster, but I knew long-term Fu would not be the answer here with that level of recruiting. Now it appears the wheels have completely come off the program. It was a slow decline with a lot of warning signs along the way for me, but I do think firing him before this year would have been premature. Unfortunately now, that time has come.
I do remember the Baylor flirtation earlier this year, and as sad as it is to say, when we thought he was leaving, that was the most excited I have been about the future of the program until now.
VPIhokieME - this is exactly how I felt too. Did not have a lot of confidence but felt like he had to be given time. And the most bizarre part was, when we were 3-1, I probably had more confidence in Fuente than I had since early on in year 2. Just amazing how everything has totally fallen apart,
The people who never supported him were calling for a divorce while drinking the bride and grooms beer at the wedding reception.
Even if you were right, do you want to be that asshole?
There is probably a better than 50% chance that we will someday be in the same situation with the next guy. We could immediately start calling for his head and have a great chance of being right. Or, as I prefer, we could not be dicks.
Whomever we bring in, it is going to take a while to rebuild at this point. We will need to be patient. However, if we bring in the right person who checks all the boxes (recruiter, dynamic personality, great staff around him, experience at big programs) I will gladly increase my Hokie Club donation now. We need to back the new guy and get things going back in the right direction. The fan base needs hope, and then we need to do our part.
Some will be patient and some won't, just like Fuente. The only constant in sports is fans being dickheads.
And I know some people will hate to hear, but we have to give the next person time too. Best practical case scenario*, Fuente is gone before the end of the year and we have an energizing hire that can keep most of the players here for 2021. Team then might be okay in 2021. Then you have to give them at least 2 more years to bring in their guys and get them into the program to try and replace the players who have left as the 2019 and 2020 recruiting classes were so disappointing. Afraid we could easily be looking at 2023 before we can hope to be good in the W-L column. Next couple of years, just need to see things like much better recruiting, effort and chemistry to see the the new regime's program has promise, but we can't get bent out of shape over losing records in the short-term if real progress is being made.
* I don't consider VT being able to hire someone like Dabo or Nick who brings several 4-5 star recruits with him in 2020 to be practical, so 2021 is the first year we can see much better recruiting and those guys won't be ready to have much impact until 2023. Maybe a few true freshmen could, but that is a real tall order.
I agree we will certainly be in this situation for a while, but at least the next guy will have an excuse because of this hole Fuente dug us. As long as they don't make excuses, are an exciting personality, and show that they are making progress or at least have some semblance of a plan, I can't fault them. Fuente was handed more talent than he has been able to bring in, squandered it, made excuses throwing players under the bus, shut the fans and former players out, apparently has to cull the locker room every year, publicly tried to get another job, and still refuses to make changes. Everyone on TKP finally wants to get rid of him because of how bold his "fuck off, I know best" attitude while losing has become recently.
Yes. Based on the available information at the time of the decision, it was the correct move.
A lot of people are talking about hindsight, but even with hindsight I'm glad we kept him the last 2 seasons. At least when our next coach takes over it'll hopefully be in a (mostly) post covid environment. Imagine what our program would feel like if we fired Fuente after only 3 seasons and our new coach was struggling due to covid and the usual attrition from changing regimes? It would be absolutely miserable.
71 comments in on one announcement, 1000's more to go at this rate. Get the Transfer Portal #2 and #3 warmed up. Fuente might need them on the field at this rate.
Is there any precedent for a team simply quiting before the season is complete? I worry we are headed down that route and it would be a bad bad look. Even worse that we have Clemson next and Dabo has already made a stiink about the FSU game so it would surely make national news.
It will take some convincing by Whit and Co. to get these guys committed for the next 2.5 weeks.
As bad as a lot of the rumors are, I'm pretty confident we aren't anywhere near that situation. Some people will opt out, not all will wait until after the season. However, there's too many kids who've trained their whole lives to play college football for an 85+ man roster to quit. We'll field a team. I don't envy the people in charge of keeping them focused on the (probably shit) game plan during this stretch though.
Not really but this year we already are seeing a bunch of NFL draft opt outs as teams lose games or coaches are let go. Expect to see a lot more after this week too. Wisconsin just lost its chance to play in the BIG championship for example. A lot of teams will be playing far down the depth chart.
I know the covid year is unique in that opt outs are given as a free pass. However, I have noticed that with each passing year, players become more focused on making business decisions with their bodies versus playing for the team. I can't fault them. The decisions are logical and I get it. But, it does affect the game. It becomes harder to feel like a fan is pulling for something special when the players aren't. It is also hard for average teams to develop when they are depending on senior talent that instead takes a shot at a late round draft pick. Anyway, rant over. I get it and ain't mad.
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It's happening isn't it
If that is true, I am very sad.
For what it's worth, that post isn't behind a paywall.
I saw you tweet about it afterwards which made me think it was free, but they use a weird filter over there that's like a paywall with holes in it, plus sometimes they make threads visible to all, etc. It's hard to keep up with.
In the future if anyone posts something you pulled from Evan/CZY over there, post the link as well so it's clear that it's free.
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/board/59428/Contents/portal-...
Not a shocker at all. I'm honestly surprised he stuck it out this long (and I commend him for it). He was a highly touted recruit and this staff has utterly failed him. He's got a lot of raw talent but I don't think this staff has developed him one bit since he set foot on campus.
I'd love it if he would at least hear out the new coaching staff (*fingers crossed*) when they are brought in, but either way, I wish him nothing but the best.
Personally out of all the players on the team, I feel the worst for Q. Patterson. The staff promised to make him the next Paxton Lynch and hyped him up as the future of the program, and failed to do so. It's bewildering to me that this staff, led by a supposed QB-whisperer, failed to develop a Trent Dilfer Elite 11 camp participant into Tech's next greatest phenom. I've always been on his hype train and will support him wherever he chooses to go. He deserves a program that will actually spend quality time on him.
Did the coaches promise to do that, or did the fanbase just expect that after Trent Dilfer's comments?
Everyone (who was remotely clued in to QP's high school football situation) knew he was a huge project, and drafted off potential. Without any inside info, I don't know how this is an issue of the staff? Every QB who's played at multiple schools (JJ, RW, JE) has peaked under Fuente. I don't see any evidence that the staff did QP wrong.
Based on what ??? I'm not saying the staff did a great job here, but these "promises" you speak of sound made up based on media comments.
FYI - HS coaches always tell kids positive things based on potential - it's not a promise, it's a possibility based on the outcomes of hard-work, situation, coaching etc.
I love QP but Trent Dilfer doesn't know shit.
Not saying he's a savant, but to be fair to Dilfer I'm pretty sure he was hyping QP's potential. Not necessarily his ability coming into college.
How do we know they failed him? He came in raw as hell and could barely throw the ball. His passing has improved a lot in just a year, but unfortunately for him he's sitting behind an older player who's currently the better option
Agreed. If he transfers I think it's likely he goes G5 or FCS. Love the kid, but I think this is simple. He wants to play and he isn't going to play on the current trajectory.
This is the risk-reward of taking projects at QB.
With that said, I do wish the kid would stay and play it out as he still has 3 years of eligibility left. He could easily improve a lot, considering this year was a difficult year to progress at Qb without spring and a fall camp that wasn't ideal to say the last. This isn't an excuse, just stating the facts.
I don't think you can say the staff failed him. Against Pitt, he threw a 10 yd screen pass into the dirt. This is his third season in the program. If you are throwing screen passes into the dirt, that is all on you. Corn called a nice, easy pass for him, and he threw it in the dirt. His fault, not the coaches.
It wasn't behind a paywall. It was a free post. I'm not a member of 247 so I can't see VIP posts.
Post a link
always best to include a link
So what does he not know?
That he is opting out.
oh wow as a potential first rounder, I would probably opt out if I was in his shoes, but if he stays thats great!
Hell yeah! #BeatClemson
Everybody posting Darrisaw tweets, he might not "opt out" as he's already banged up and he might just stay on the team for optics. This isn't guaranteeing he will play again. He should be gone to the draft after this year anyway. I could be wrong, but I think it would be a smart decision for him
So even if you are wrong you are right? If he stays it's because of "optics" - do you know this or just floating it to serve your perspective.
I don't subscribe to selling out the kid's point of view for something speculative.
109comments on a thread with one portal entry that was also on suspension from the team?Sorry, 110. Please just stop piling on with hopeful bad news..
QP also
Citation? From Quincy, not your rumor mill would help our trust in your statement
I don't particularly care if you "trust in my statement." You can take it or leave it, it's up to you.
Wow! That sounds super confident! Why did I ever doubt your knowledge?
OK. This place has turned miserable over the last two seasons. I think I'm done here, you all have fun.
Chose a great hill to die on, huh?
Not dead. Not going anywhere and I help pay for this site unlike some. Thanks for piling on.
I remain as I came, more positive and factual than rumor and negative and I'm ok with that. Go Hokies!
People share the information that they hear when they hear it. Most people like to get information as early as possible for a variety of reasons. By the time Quincy posts something himself, everyone will know.
There is no requirement on TKP, or any other message board that I am aware of, where information cannot be shared until the person themselves announces it. If you don't want to believe it, or are the kind of person who just wants to wait until you hear it directly from the player/coach in question then that's okay, but there's no need to attack another person for sharing information or even just wanting others to share their information before it breaks to everyone.
Agreed that people say what they know at the time but "QP also" seems incomplete and asking for a source is not an attack.
This was the part that was more of an attack...
I understand the sentiment of not wanting people floating rumors, but realistically if you don't like this kind of thread it's best to just not open it. Instead of making a comment about how many useless comments there are in this thread, which of course leads to more useless comments that don't have much to do with any actual news or discussion of transfers/opt outs.
So much like what happens sometimes in recruiting threads, when you complain about the noise in the recruiting thread you inadvertently create even more noise.
There's no requirement to have a quote directly from the player in order to post anything, don't be ridiculous.
Hokie Central posted today he left for about 5 minutes, before it was deleted.
This one wouldn't surprise me. Didn't QP enter his name last year only to be talked out of transferring by Fuente? Or am I mis-remembering?
That was hooker
Ah, right - thanks for the correction.
this would not be surprising if he did though. people would be panicking if he did but is it really that surprising? I mean he's entering his rs-sophmore/junior year and is still looking at sitting then. It's not like he's lighting it up when he comes in.
When starters transfer is something, when backups who have little playing time i'm not shocked. Especially if they feel they can play somewhere else. You don't join a program to sit, unless you're at bama, you join to play. If you can't play there then you try and go somewhere else and play.
Thank you! Lets put some energy toward positive outcomes. Looks like Darrisaw is sticking around and we should have most of the defense back for Clemson. I think we see them play hard and aggressive, hopefully can keep this game close going into the 2nd half.
A lot of rumors about Tre, but this just showed up:
#NewProfilePic pic.twitter.com/7zB5HJzwrV— Tré Turner (@tre11turner) November 29, 2020 " target="_blank">
Maybe there was some more truth to some rumors than others, maybe it's just that the players were as emotional as we were after Pittsburgh. Either way, I don't want these guys to lose, I don't want them to leave, and I don't want to see them check out mentally. I love these guys, even the ones that end up leaving. I just want to see them happy, and winning again - and I get that means a coaching change, and I get that means some of these guys will invariably end up leaving. Hokies are forever (except for a very small handful who aren't).
My sentiments exactly. I am pulling for every one of these players today, tomorrow and the future. Each of these players choose VT at some point and I hope we can do what is right by them as coaches, administration, fellow students, alumni and fans.
Oh look a clip from when he was actually funny (comedic value of the jokes alone, politics aside)
Almost every comedian is doomed to become a caricature of their earlier, funnier selves.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Not funny at all.
I still think he's funny, personally, but yes, his character of a "well-intentioned, poorly informed, high-status idiot" (his own words) caricature of political pundits, while on the Colbert Report was pretty genius.
For those who prefer the official channels, straight from Fuente's mouth about QP and Darryle Simmons.
Godspeed Quincy! Go be great.
Good luck Big Quincy. Thanks for the memories.
I pray that he ends up at Oregon or any Big 12 school. Good news is that since he won't be at VT, he will be immediately eligible to play
Didn't NCAA pass one free transfer for everyone recently? Since this year didn't count towards eligibility and free transfer he has a lot of options.
Probably. Was mainly being bitter about everyone getting eligibility except for players coming to VT.
everyone except those coming to VT
Given he's from Chicago, how intelligent he is, and (I think) still interested in engineering, Northwestern seems like the obvious destination.
Andrew Alix summed up my thoughts pretty well on QP:
Loved QP as a human being but he never really developed into a real quarterback. When "student body left" and "student body right" are the lynchpins of your QP-designed gameplan three years in, that's a real problem. I don't know if I should pin this on QP or on CornFu but it's clear that new coaches would bode well for him.
Which seems to tell a lot about our "QB guru" coach
If he was ever going to be what he was rumored to be, the coaching would not have held him so far back that he can't complete simple timing patterns. I honestly think he either needs to embrace his role as a running qb in a triple option offense or consider changing positions.
I honestly think our coaches cannot develop any QBs. in the NFL, Paxton Lynch was noted quickly as being unable to read a D and make more than 1 read.
This QB whisper crap about FU and Corn has been disproven over and over again. What QB have they not held back ?
Well, there isn't really any way to prove it because the QBs haven't played for other coaches. Except JJ and I wouldn't say that he improved at Maryland. I think it's fair to question Fuente's coaching, but we can't just say "QP would have been great with different coaches!!" No evidence to prove that.
So, there is no way to prove that the crap in the toilet stinks unless you smell it? Okay...
Evans, Jackson, Willis, HH, and QP; improvement for all was basically negligible. Whether poor talent/evaluation and/or coaching, one would expect, after three years in some cases, for these guys to more than 10% better.
Well, I mean, yeah. You can't prove it smells unless you measure it. That's definitely true.
I've dropped some that I knew was gonna smell horrific wellll before it ever hit my nose.
I'm of the opinion that Fuente is absolutely no guru and I'm cautiously optimistic for some new coaches, but even if they had developed him it seems likely that HH would have also come along at the same rate and left QP in a similar boat.
He was a quarterback with a lot of potential, who was unfortunately a year behind another quarterback with a lot of potential. Was going to be hard to get real playing time if he didn't beat out Hooker in a preseason competition which with one less year under his belt wasn't likely.
Best of luck to QP and the other transfers leaving VT. "New coaches would bode well for him". And new coaches would bode well for the VT program, as well. Dec. 16, step up please Whit.
I hope QP lands somewhere that can develop him, has all the physical tools you would want for a quarterback.
Anyone heard anything on Holston? Twitter rumblings
I mean he deleted his twitter account so that might have been it😂
It's back
He retweeted this reply to his "peace"
I hope not. I am excited to see him in an expanded role.
Not surprised some RB's are leaving because we know Blackshear will be back and King should be improved. I have heard some good stuff about Jordan Brunson, anybody hearing similar things?
Intriguing tweet by Blackshear "I'm right after you" to Brock Hoffman saying he'll be announcing something tomorrow
Didn't see TJ Jackson mentioned
They're getting a good one. Just no room at the inn re playing time at VT.
I hope he balls out. Best of luck, big'un
He is one XXXXL sized man.
And he played basketball...one of his high school highlights:
Talk about bringing down the house.
He came back from Covid pushing 400 LBs. Hope for his sake he gets his weight under control if nothing else at Ohio.
Hoffman returning next year
This is all so goofy. I'm sorry, but all these edits for players coming back, just can't get with it.
It's 800% better than a portal transfer announcement. Welcome back Brock!
There doesn't need to be an announcement for this at all.
Counterpoint: they can announce whatever the hell they want. Lighten up Francis
He isn't the only player and we aren't the only school doing this. For players who are taking the extra year plenty of them are doing the same kind of announcements.
To me it seems like it is a concerted effort by the program to sustain excitement about returning contributors. Especially given that we were told to expect attrition -- we've seen that at key position groups (qb and guard), but we've seen way more from players announcing that they'll be back which seems to dilute the message of "this program is hemorrhaging talent"
This is 100% what they're a doing. A little PR work, color me shocked.
They are 18-23 year olds, I'm happy with whatever makes them happy.
Geese Louise, do you ever say anything supportive? Every thread you're bashing the staff (some of it is warranted), but about graphics!? Come on Debbie quit being a downer and enjoy that Brock is returning.
If you knew some inside stuff you wouldn't be that excited for Hoffman returning😐
Care to expand upon that idea, or are we just going to make wild accusations?
Yeah I can expand a little bit. So you know a couple of oline transfer from our team that were highly ranked outta high school? Well I heard Hoffman and his parents bully one of them and their parents parents and that made him transfer and the other olineman is friends with that olineman so he transfered as well
I just have a really hard time believing this scenario with the current climate we are in there is no way someone bulling someone else off the team wouldn't have made it into the news if it had legs, nor would Hoffman be on the team.
If you look at daddy Hoffman Twitter account you can find some evidence
I don't have receipts, but the Twitter battle between the parents I believe involved actually tagging the students athletes that were involved and included accusations regarding playing time complaints?
Yes
Crazy if true. I appreciate you responding
The parents twitter beef is relatively well known. I would take the bullying charge with a grain of salt. Never going to get the full context on that charge.
More turkey bacon will cure hurt feelings.
cure hurt feelings.
Heh
A shame. Sounds like coaches had to have been aware. They should have booted Hoffman and kept the 2 younger, higher upside prospects over the guy with 1 year of eligibility left. Just my opinion based on what is laid out in front of me. I have no inside info.
Former Kansas grad transfer Evan Fairs to the portal. Loss of depth isn't great but despite some decent downfield blocking he only had two catches for 18 yards all season last year.
Not surprised. Neither Transfer WR last year seemed to have much of a role.
5 total catches between them.
Would not be surprised to see Hodge headed elsewhere too.
I agree, I think Hodge needs a changa scenery.
He needs a QB that will look his way and throw him the ball.
Good blocker. As I noted when I reviewed him, I didn't see the ability to get separation on film that I would expect for a volume contributor at WR. I hope he finds a place where he can finish his career strong, and his effort as a blocker was excellent.
Dallan Wright, line one.