Clemson opens as a 21.5-point favorite against Virginia Tech

The Hokies haven't been this big of a home underdog since 1988 when Tech was a 22-point underdog against South Carolina (L, 26-24). Great teams have come into Lane as big favorites, but rarely ever this big.

The defending champion 2015 Ohio State team that went 12-1 was a 14 point favorite (L, 42-24).
The 2001 Miami team that went on to win the national title was also a 14 point favorite in Lane (L, 26-24).
The 1992 Miami team that won the AP title the year before and went to the national title game again was a 19.5 point favorite in Blacksburg (L, 23-43).
The 1989 Florida State team that went 10-2 and finished #3 in the AP Poll was a 16 point favorite (L, 41-7).
A week before the SoCar game, we were 23-point underdogs to the West Virginia team that went to the National Championship game and finished #5 in the AP Poll (L, 22-10).

Homefield advantage has been limited this year with the lack of fans around the country, but it's still jarring to see our squad giving away 21.5 points in Blacksburg.

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Is that Clemson first quarter score?

Was thinking the same unfortunately...

Go Hokies!

I'll take the over.

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If we don't turn the ball over we could keep it respectable for a half. The Clemson offense stalls more than you might think, even against bad teams. However, they are very lethal in making you pay when they smell blood in the water after a turnover or big play.

Hmm, I dont think they even need us to turn it over. They will run through our defense and score at will. We will be lucky to score on a third of our drives.

The scenario I proposed is certainly more dependent on their focus/execution than what we will bring to the table.

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Seems optimistic.

Watch us only lose by 21

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Watch us not lose!

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I don't bet, but if I did, I'd take Clemson to cover
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Can I have some help with the line stuff? How much money would you have to put on Clemson to win money?

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Any amount. The line simply reflects how much they need to win by in order to win any money.

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If you bet Clemson (-21.5) you'll be looking at something like winning $95 for every $100 you bet if Clemson wins by at least 22.
The Clemson money line (winning outright) is much more likely so you'll see a huge drop off in return. I'd guess you're looking at winning $7 for every $100 you bet on Clemson winning outright.

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Oooo 👀

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Spread bets are set to try to get even number of bets on each side of the line. The losers contribute 100% of their bets. The winners get 195% of their bets back. The house pockets the difference. Assuming even money was laid on each, the house makes $5 for every $200 laid down (percentages vary). They will shift the lines to try to get even money on both sides to protect against loss. Basically it's a rigged system to make sure that just enough people win a lot, a lot more people lose a lot, and the house wins a little every time which adds up to a whole hell of a lot.

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Stand Vig/Vegas Vig is -110. You win 90 cents on every dollar bet. Parlay's and money line underdogs (plus money) are different of course.

yeah I was going to update this when my site updated odds. They have the Clemson ML winning you 10 cents for every dollar you bet. They have the spread bets at winning 90 cents per dollar bet.

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That's it?

I am positive they slipped the decimal point one spot to the left by mistake, otherwise this seems like EASY MONEY

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From a distance I read the thread title as 215.

I didn't have a strong reaction that it was crazy...

I want to bet Clemson (-21.5) so bad, but I can't stand watching games hoping my Hokies score less. Same reason I never bet the under for Tech games

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I really hope our scoring steak doesn't end. Fuente seems to be trying to end all of our streaks before he gets canned.

I really hope our scoring steak doesn't end.

Wait, are you saying we have a piece of steak that is scoring in games for the Hokies? Or that we are getting steak each time we score? If it is the latter, I am pissed because I have not been receiving any steak!

We used to get pussy touchdowns, but now we deny those!

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Honestly...not that bad. I cannot see it going that well, but we'll see.

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I'm really more curious what the Uva line will be

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Cancelled due to emotional bankruptcy after this Saturday.

Favored by 5ish if I were to guess

Was the kickoff time ever announced??

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

7:30 on ABC

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Edit didn't tip you off? Lol

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I will be surprised if we lose by less than 50 honestly.

That hook though.

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Sounds low

i will watch this game with no expectation of victory, even a moral one, but rather as if I'm paying final respect to a difficult period for VT Football.
Even two weeks ago, I still had a belief we'd compete as we continued to be down starters from Covid. Sadly, the hope for any game by game success has been bludgeoned to nonexistence, and in its place is a comfortable numbness, with a tiny pilot light of hope that cathartic change is forthcoming.
So, I will sit on the couch with a six pack of Stone IPA as my support, and do my best to accept reality peacefully.

Note: My embrace of VT getting its ass handed to it by Clemson does not preclude me from hating on Dabo, who is one of the most successful idiots alive.

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Maybe for the visiting team it isn't, but it may qualify for the home fans.

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No way its even that close I probably will find something else to do saturday to avoid watching this massacre.

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How much will this thing creep? Up to 26? Or more?

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Ugh to top off this spread we're going to have Herbie and Fowler talk about "what happened to VT?" for approximately a quarter and a half... that sounds fun /s

Maybe lightning will strike them in the rental before the game...

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ESPN showing it up to 23.5

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they transposed the #s... its -53.2

Just noticed this is primetime on Saturday night, if you don't think clemson are gonna pants us for the style points I'd take the over all day. A good ol primetime beat down might be enough to get fuente out the door

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Why did they make this the prime time game🤔

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Clemson needed an exclamation point

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I dont get it either, especially when A&M/Auburn and Indiana/Wisconsin are both games featuring ranked teams. Even WVU @ Iowa St. would be better.

ESPN wants to put the final nail in the Coffin for Fuente, I guess?

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I'll take the points probably... maybe back door it with some garbage time points

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I think we'll be lucky to score more than 21 points. Clemson is likely going to score on 90% of their offensive possessions. Assuming they get 10 possessions we could be looking at a 55-20 type of game

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Take Clemson and the points. Venebales will be ready for the QB keeper on all key 3rd downs.

Clemson will use this game as a tune up for their DB's . They will play tight coverage and make Hooker squeeze some balls in tight openings. We dont stretch the field, and Venables will stack the box and stop the run at the line.

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And on all key 4th downs...

Is coronavirus over yet?

And in your scenario above VT is 3-3 ATS in those games. Not terrible, not great either.