Offensively Positive

Things to enjoy, going forward.

1. We are 3 games into the season and we're averaging almost 300 yards per game on the ground, led by a bona fide stud who is averaging 150 yards a game on only 15 touches.

2. Speaking of said stud...Herbert has topped 100 yards in three consecutive games, the first time the Hokies had anybody go for a bill in three straight games since Travon McMillon's 2015 games against Duke, BC, and Georgia Tech (McMillon was 5 yards short of 5 straight games, against NC State and Miami)

3. At no point, would I ever say I am upset at this team averaging 42.7 ppg - incredulous that this has been done with a quarterback who isn't as much a threat to throw the ball as another on the team.

4. Especially not against P5/conference opponents. The Hokies last put up those kind of scores against 3 straight P5 opponents in 2010, but that had an interloper in Central Michigan.

5. Especially not against 2 P5/conference opponents on the road. Yes, I know this year is bizarro world, but the fact of the matter is, away still means away. The last time we saw that, it was 2005, which, again, featured MAC interloper in Ohio to break up the streak.

6. So against 3 consecutive P5/conference opponents with 2 or more away from Lane? Is he gonna say it? Yes he is. 1999, against Temple, BC, and Florida State (including true away games, West Virginia, Miami, Temple; also in 1999)

Is this offense perfect? Hell no. But can we at least agree that this offense is producing at a rate we haven't seen in a damn long time. I'm hoping to see these numbers continue against BC next week and most definitely the following week against Wake Forest, the worst rushing defense in the ACC that hasn't already played Tech.

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There is a lot of truth above.

A lot of positivity after a hard fought loss. Meanwhile, LOLUVA just loss to an NC State team VT blew away.

This isn't directed at you personally but I don't understand the constant obsession with comparing ourselves to UVA. I understand they are in-state rivals but that program is not, should not, and has never been on Virginia Tech's level. I saw a lot of comments like this after the loss and it just made me wonder where our benchmark really is as a fan base

Some one forgot the early to mid 90s ...

In 98 UVA had the series lead, we then had streaks of 5 and 15 years.

They have similar facilities and budget. Just because VT has owned the last 2 decades doesnt mean they aren't capable of being at our level of success

You might not want to hear this reality but UVA has been AP ranked 1 before (Tech hasn't) and their highest ever recruiting class is higher than Tech's highest ever.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Same reasonRedskins Washington Team Football fans can rejoice whenever the cowboys lose even when they are doing crappy.

I work with LOLUVa fans and nothing is worse than them doing well when we are down.

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Then we laugh when they talk about us saying "ReNt FrEe."

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

It's quite simple. We hate uva and want them to lose every single game. A perfect football weekend is us winning and them losing.

It's also the transitive property at work. A team that we blew out just blew out another team.

I don't see it as a comparison to them so much as reporting the good news that uva lost and to add a cherry on top, they lost to a team that we handedly beat. So suck it uva.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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As long as Fuente is over his passion project and starts Hooker from here on out we can score a lot of points, and it sure looks like we are going to need too...

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Just wait until Fuente starts Knox Kadum because he has a nice practice or something.

I'm honestly not concerned about the offense going forward. They've played very well this year

its really fun to watch this Oline. The offense looked much better with Hooker back, so it will be interesting to see it going forward.

Love the O-Line. Haven't seen a tech O-Line get pushes like that since the early 2000s it seems. 'STICK IT IN' chant was there for a reason.

I love watching Herbert just cruise down the field. He can get around the edge, and he can sidestep in the open field without losing speed.

I very much appreciate this thread. Thanks 07

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I'm so happy I don't get mad anymore.

I love watching tech football every weekend.

This year is going to look like 1995 in retrospect.

I don't give a shit about recruiting. Justin Fuente can get us there with 2 and three stars just like we always have.

I really hope the boys don't feel down on themselves, and I hope Hamilton is picking his defense up.

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VT's D-line looked pretty good through the first 2 games

And a lot of the DB starters have been out.

This has been me for the past 3 years. I love it.

I like this post.

I don't give a shit about recruiting. Justin Fuente can get us there with 2 and three stars just like we always have.

I am not sure yet if Fuente is "the answer" for us but Saturday was the best evidence that this statement is true since the ACCCG vs Clemson his first season in my opinion.

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Positivity after a loss, I like it!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

I think I have some kind of sickness.

I have been Hakuna Matata my entire life and it actually irritates me that I'm always Mr. Brightside.

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Nothing is as good as it seems, and nothing is as bad as it seems. Somewhere in between lies reality.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

That works for me a lot more with a 3 point loss to a rival. A little harder to take it seriously when a divisional opponent hangs 60 on you with 600 yards and your defense looks like a wet paper bag


"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Yeah, when you take it completely out of context it looks really bad.

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Offense was definitely the saving grace today, but it's been progressing all along and I expected it to shine today. It did. Nobody scores every series, and very few win all their games, but our offense keeps us in any game our defense can play adequate ball. Today that didn't occur, but it's one game and we're not out of the ACC race yet because of it. Either way, big plays and productive skill players make our offense a threat to score from anywhere on the field. And I love it.

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I got to say it has been a joy watching the Herbert run through these three games. To me his vision is amazing along with his ability to make the first guy miss and turn the corner. It's nice to see a back like that again in VT's backfield. Don't think we have seen anything like him since DW. Amazing grab out of the transfer portal.

Herbert has earned absolute stud status. Though Wilson was a bonafide td threat on every play, he'd also have negative yards by too much dancing at times. So far I think Herbert is my preference. Will see if it continues.

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For the first time in a long time we lost a game and I'm not mad at the OC. Not mad at all today. Tackling was piss poor, but oh well. Those boys never quit. The fact that they were about to put some offensive players in on defense and the score was as close as it was is amazing.

The resilience of the team was impressive today. They could have folded in the first quarter and again in the third quarter and they continued to battle.

There are some games that are super frustrating because you lose them at the end. This game was super frustrating because we lost it in the first half...but then I got to see a very entertaining second half and am not as hopeless as some people on here seem moving forward.

We lost by 11 (really, 18 as they earned a touchdown at the end there). With Herbert and Hooker in, we get on the board first quarter and I guarantee they don't get that TD at the end of the first half. That's a close game worth watching. Can't wait for next week!

And oh my gosh, the balls on Fuente calling the on sides kick and the perfect execution by Johnson? That was some fun football to watch.

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That kick was perfect! Couldn't have executed any better!

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At this very moment almost all fan bases are upset. ND is losing to FSU, Bama to Ole Miss. UNC, OK st., Cindy, BYU and UGA are probably the only happy programs. Having a fun offense to watch is something to be happy about at a time when a lot if fans aren't happy.

lots of points and yards being given up today!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

For the record, though, ND beat the snot out of FSU.

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yes, as the should, but it was 17-14 when I wrote the comment. ND fans are not going to be happy that they were ever losing to a program as bad as FSU is right now.

More than anything else, I do not want any WTF losses. When is the last time VT has not had any of them? 1999? Okay, I'm sure it is not that long, but it feels like it.

Totally with you. The offense has put up a lot of yards and a lot of points. And after 3 straight strong rushing games against P5 teams, I am finally onboard (for the first time in a decade) that we have a good offensive line and can really run the ball well. Just pound out wins against teams like Boston College, get to 6-1 with a top 20 ranking, and we will be in a position to have 2 big games against 2 teams with a lot of talent. Just no WTF losses and even pulling 1 upset should give us a very good season. Heck, even losses to Miami and Clemson but beating everyone else and winning a bowl game will make me happy with the season. Will show positive movement 2 years in a row after that 6-7 season. Definitely need to get the recruiting improved somehow.

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2011, Clemson twice.

The last time was 2007, just based on the caliber of teams we lost to and not how we lost. If you're including games against good teams that we lost in spectacular/horrible fashion, then you go back to 2000 for the last time without one.

But yeah, at this point we should be considering anything worse than 8-3 a failure with how well we're able to move the ball, and 9-2 is definitely attainable.

More than anything else, I do not want any WTF losses.

Every time I get this feeling about VT football I wonder how many fan bases there are in the country that don't worry about this.

How many programs are out there that only win and lose the games they should win and lose?

We watch a lot of games with our Ohio St. friends and they have a WTF loss almost every year it seems like. One a few years ago I remember quite well ...

Of course when they DON'T have a WTF loss they win the natty so maybe they're not a good example.

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I don't think any program really avoids WTF losses, except for maybe whichever team goes undefeated and wins the title in a given year. You mentioned Ohio State, but all the top teams have weird losses fairly regularly. Clemson has lost to Pitt and Syracuse relatively recently, Bama lost to Ole Miss twice in a row not long ago, Oklahoma lost to K-State last year, and so on.

The best programs limit WTF losses as much as possible, but no one truly escapes them

I don't think hunk any program really avoids WTF losses, except for maybe whichever team goes undefeated and wins the title in a given year.

What even is this sentence?

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Seems perfectly understandable to me if you assume hunk was a typo/autocorrect error.

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You are correct, hunk was an autocorrect error, though I don't know for what. Subconsciously describing myself obviously. /s

Haha yeah I knew it was a typo of some sort but for the life of me I couldn't figure out what it was a typo of... Unless you tried typing "think" twice and it went horribly wrong

In any event, I thought it was kinda funny

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Obviously I meant only hunk teams avoid WTF losses. Time to get hunky VT.

I have no problem with the offense today. Did we play perfect? No, but they did enough to win. The defense put up one of the worst performances in the history of the program. I know we are thin and decimated by COVID but that doesn't excuse the piss poor tackling.

I said no excuses before kick, that was before the D depth announcement and later watched Carter vs. Matheny on the TD run. I'm not that athletic and couldn't hold a match to Matheny, but unfortunately there is a pecking order in sports (strength, weight, athleticism, vision, etc.), and our 3rd string against their 1s never stood a chance. There was an image at the end of the game were the D came off the field, and were so sad and frustrated. They shouldn't be, they were just in a shit position of expectation that they should be able to push a boulder up a hill.

That said, the Conner hit and penalties at the end of the game need to go. Newsome was jawing a lot, but you have to take your lumps and be the bigger man if you choose to put on the uniform. That portion was on the coaches and the players.


Never thought I would see the plot twist where we could say we need Cornys offense to bail out the defense.

Offense is looking great.

Could you imagine this offense in Bud's heyday

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I mean, I kinda said it above. 1999.

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Could you imagine this offense in Bud's heyday

Or 2017 :(

I still have no idea of our defense is that bad or if we are really that depleted because of Covid

I think it's both. The front seven which wasn't as affected by the missing players had a really rough game, but starting third string safeties at both spots (third for SS assuming Keonta is only first string because Hunters legal issues) is a very difficult issue to navigate.

And the tackling. Oh lord the tackling. The starting defense couldnt tackle at all.

You ever play a sport at the Division 1 level and not practice for 2 weeks during your season? People on here act like it's easy to miss that and jump back in a game and not miss a beat. I missed 2-3 weeks at the end of track season (in high school) and tried to come back in time for regionals and I was seriously hurting. You lose a LOT of conditioning fast. And that's just conditioning, not even talking about aspects of playing together as a team that practicing together helps. Plus, INT aside, Matheny is a walk on, and despite him trying, he is SLOW. I don't think we're anywhere as bad as we showed today, but even fully healthy, I think LB is a big weak area for us. And our D-line, although I think TNT have coached up, aren't the guys who are going to be able to impact an O-line like we want, which is one reason Wiles isn't here anymore. Our DB's should be a strength, but those are the guys that missed all the practice.

All things considered

... I'm not that upset. It sucks because of who it is, but... It is what it is. They still barely won.

I take the good from the loss, but it's still fuck unc and everything about that shitty fucking program though. Fuck mack old ass.

Eh, they won by *18 points. Not exactly barely winning.

We also lead the ACC in average scoring at 42.67, with Clemson at number 2 with 42.25.

... and our QB who can run AND throw has only played one half of football.

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Dazz Newsome can crawl under a rock somewhere..... Kids good but running his mouth and getting in our players faces after every play is some serious poor character and sportsmanship.

It is a natural gift I posess to create friction in sensitive situations.

I seem to remember him doing that a lot last year too.

When he got the unsportsmanlike yesterday, I remembered how he got one last year and I was hoping he'd run his mouth again to get kicked out of the game.

Yeah that kid is a piece of work

I think we finished comfortably in 2nd in terms of sportsmanship with the way we ended that game.

Fuck it, unpopular opinion I guess around here, but I love it. I wish we had a guy like Dazz right now. Did yall hate James Gayle? Because that's exactly what he was. It pumps the team up. It makes you play better.

Everyone hates it when it's the other team, but I wish we had a Dazz.

Ironically, If we had really wanted Dazz and actually showed him that during his recruitment, he would have suited up in O&M. The guy wants to be a Hokie. Oh well.

Give me a bunch of Dazz Newsome type players any day.

Great team win today. I know we didn't get a W on the scoreboard but what we did get is a team W. This game could have been over at halftime but the players didn't believe that and they came out and showed the fight they have in them. I knew this year was not going to be pretty or the best, but I have been fantastically surprised at how watching football this year hasn't soured my mood. It has been the highlight in an otherwise somber year.

I do still have some concerns about playcalling at times but overall no gripes. These concerns may be explained away by someone that is more educated in the Xs and Os of the sport. I just don't understand why we abandoned the run in parts of the game, it seemed to be working to our advantage. I'm still on the Herbert for Heisman train.

Can't wait to see what these kids can do at full strength! GO HOKIES!

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These were two powerhouse offenses. To me, the most interesting stats of the slightly wet day were Zero fumbles for either team, zero interceptions for either team (no turnovers at all) and each defense recorded a total of one sack. Them are some serious numbers.

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Some Sunday morning positivity:

I think our schedule sets up very well for us to head into the Miami game with one loss. BC, Wake, Louisville, and Liberty are all games that we can reasonably expect to win, particularly with the way our offense has run the ball this season. The run game should help to mask some of our defensive issues, and I imagine we have to be getting close to having a defense back to full strength within the next couple weeks. Eventually the virus will have worked its way through the team to the point where we will have a bunch of guys who won't even have to be tested for the rest of the season.

Heading into the Miami game with one loss is a very real possibility, and quite frankly they didn't impress me at all last night. A win over Miami would go a long way in restoring some excitement and fun to this season. Then we could conceivably finish the season with 2 losses (UNC, Clemson), and I think we would all agree that would be a very good season if that was the end result.

Is it likely? Who knows, it seems silly to project any kind of finish that doesn't involve a "wtf" loss to some team we should beat, but I think the logic stands as reasonable for this finish.

Miami was certainly underwhelming against Clemson, but most teams are against them. King versus our front 7 absolutely frightens me. Unless we suddenly find rangey LBs and get a bigger more disruptive DL, I fear they are going to run all over us.

I'm a little concerned about Louisville, just because their offense is so good. Hopefully our defense will have more depth in three weeks.

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I'm concerned about that as well, but their defense is bad bad bad. They are small and undisciplined. We should be able to run through them.

L'ville has a really bad OL as well. I like our pass rush against them. I don't like our front 7 against their running game.

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I think their offense WAS good, as in previous years. They've put up more than 28 points twice, and oddly enough, once was against Miami, the other was Western Kentucky. They put up 27 against GT and 20 against Pitt. Before we talk about how good Pitt's D is, let's remember UNC was leading the country in rushing yards allowed, having held BC to 67 and Syracuse to 40. We put up 260 on them. They don't have anywhere near the devastating offenses they've had in the past. And even if it does become a shootout, I like our odds considering we put up 45 points on a good defense. With Hooker in, I think we can score a hell of a lot more points than anybody else on our schedule other than Clemson.

They've put up more than 28 points twice

POINTS SCORED (in previous weeks) IS NOT A (good) PREDICTOR OF OFFENSIVE SUCCESS OR FAILURE. Sorry for yelling, but I feel like this is pretty well documented in 2020...

Going into this week, they had the 8th best offense (per SP+). Their problem is, they are -8 (good for 72nd) in turnover margin. Granted, the sample size is small, but if you've watched them play at all, you can tell that they definitely have an offense that (could be) a bad match up for us. The have a great rushing offense, and if we can't stop that, and/or they can avoid turning the ball over, that game will be a lot closer than you think.

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So given how many points our offense has scored, and against a team like UNC especially, you don't think we can make any sort of prediction about how many games we win in the future? If we base everything on how bad our defense is, we might as well say we'll lose all the rest of our games. Metrics are great and all, but do they tell you anything about how good or how bad your opponent was? Remember UNC had the number 1 rush defense heading into our game. What did SP+ have to say about how well our offense would do against their defense?

UNC has a good defense, Louisville's is bad. Who's offense do you think is better? Who's defense do you think is better? We were the only team to hold NC State under 30 points so far in their 4 games (and we're their only loss).
Plus, statistics can't be good if there's only been 2 or 3 games played. They are most helpful and indicative towards the end of the season.

Metrics are great and all, but do they tell you anything about how good or how bad your opponent was?

Yes. SP+ is adjusted for strength of opponent:

What is SP+? In a single sentence, it's a tempo- and opponent-adjusted measure of college football efficiency...

SP+ is intended to be predictive and forward-facing. That is important to remember. It is not a résumé ranking that gives credit for big wins or particularly brave scheduling -- no good predictive system is. It is simply a measure of the most sustainable and predictable aspects of football. If you're lucky or unimpressive in a win, your rating will probably fall. If you're strong and unlucky in a loss, it will probably rise.

Basically, how SP+ works is it looks at both opponents, and sees how Team 1's offense typically performs at a given down and distance, and how Team 2's defense typically performs at that same down and distance. The system performs this analysis at an individual play level for Team 1 offense vs Team 2 defense, Team 1 defense vs Team 2 offense, and Team 1 special teams vs Team 2 special teams, and comes out for a success rate for each individual play, then extrapolates those different possibilities across an entire game.

SP+ does not account for turnovers (which are statistically random), penalties, and injuries.

Remember UNC had the number 1 rush defense heading into our game. What did SP+ have to say about how well our offense would do against their defense?

No, I don't. SP+ said UNC had the 37th best defense overall prior to our game (Source). Bill Connelly used to publish a more detailed breakdown each week (so we could see exactly how strong UNC's rushing defense was expected to be), but unfortunately since going to ESPN, Bill Connelly has not published this level of detail week to week.

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Opponent adjusted in 2 games? Unless they're going mostly off any sort of preseason rankings, opponent adjusted when a bunch of teams have played 2 or 3 games doesn't tell you much of anything. And given players being out due to COVID, I'm guessing it tells you less. Like I said, I'll believe in it more 6 or 7 games in.

Well, the system has a success rate >60% against the spread so far this year, so it's doing pretty well. It does have "preseason rankings" included that consider the quality of snaps played by returning players, and incoming recruits. It does not adjust for things like a new coaching hire.

Anyways, back to my original point, Louisville could be a tough out. If you're expecting us to steam roll that game just because they're averaging 28 points per game, I think you might be disappointed. I still think we should win, but don't be shocked if they put up a bunch of points and give us a scare.

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That definitely sounds good (>60% against the spread). I checked out the link you included. It had our offense ranked 31st and our defense ranked 24th. Compare that to UNC's 37th ranked defense and that just sounds totally out of whack. I understand the ratings are relative to other teams, but it boggles my mind that our defense could have been ranked that much higher than our offense and our defense could be ranked that much higher than UNC's coming into this week. It's hard to argue with results, just looking at ours and UNC's seems odd.

My only real expectation for Louisville is that we will put up a LOT of points. I think there will be precious few teams that will slow us down this year. On defense, that's another story. I doubt Louisville's offense is as strong as UNC's, so think we'll get more stops and out score them. I'm not sure of a steamroll, just think we'll win.

The preseason projections will have less and less influence on the rankings as the season goes on. The projections anticipated our defense would be stronger since we were supposed to be returning most of our defense. But, our defensive rankings in SP+ have already dropped while the offensive has jumped up. After week 3, the offense is ranked #28 and the defense is ranked #30 (link).

No statistical analysis is perfect and none should be followed blindly. But, this system does a really good job against the spread. Early season rankings will be very volatile, but they do generally give us an idea of team quality and their strengths.

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If we trot out a defense like Saturday's we won't win another game. I can't imagine this team beating Miami or even Louisville with the personnel we have up front on D.

The defense we trotted out on Saturday was only slightly worse than the defenses we trotted out the first two weeks. They'll be better, especially as we get back some key playmakers.

Great post, first loss that I haven't been mad at. Our D had some serious depth and talent issues, and the offense stepped up. We should all take moment to think about the years and years of Bud keeping us in games we had no business being in, and this time the offense did the opposite. We had three stops in the entire game, scored 45, and lost by 11.

COVID doomed a chance at a W, the players on D tried their best with the hand dealt. Screw moral victories, this was a cohesion moment for the team and the coaches.


Here for this.

The team is not perfect, and I have my concerns around the state of the program at large, but I think 2020 could (ironically) be the most exciting season we've seen in sometime. It feels a lot like 2009, where we watched a young team transform into a veteran team and finally start living up to their potential, despite those improvements not really being reflected in the team's final record/achievements.

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And that 2009 squad grew into ACC champions one year later. I like where your head's at.

I will weigh in. In the first quarter I was relaxed/passive, thinking "oh well, this is where we're at." But then, in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, we showed we were better than that, and I began nail biting, especially when we were within 5. The fact of the matter is, as bad as our D was, we showed we had a chance to win if we had Given Herbert the rock more in the first half and if Fuente hadn't had a wedding date set with Burmeister. That is what is so frustrating! The D being like a wet paper sack was merely disappointing, whereas the player (and play) selection on O was at times infuriating, knowing we left points and time of possession on the table and could have done even better with the players available.

Herbert carried the ball one! 1 !!!!! time in the first quarter. What the hell was up with that?

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In herberts defense I think we only had maybe 12 plays in the first quarter and they were all hodge podged. Cornelson definitely got too cute instead of just feeding herbert the rock but I tend to agree with Fu when he said its hard to get him the ball when youre not even getting first downs.

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But on the flip side, if you give him the ball, you get first downs.

I would agree totally just seemed conry got caught trying to go against the grain hoping that they would be focused on the run but like normal sometimes you can be your worst enemy.

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They stacked the box so we tried to attack the edges with multiple execution errors. Nothing wrong with the philosophy and we should probably accept the fact that Herbert can't run the ball every play.

"If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?"

I suspect the Big12 will come calling after techs offensive output and lack of defense /s kinda

Hooker made a big difference in the running game, but not because of his running...

Both secondaries were hodge podge. The difference was UNC's out of position guys tackled. The Hokies did not.

VT's OL wasn't as good- UNC's DTs did a good job of moving laterally and messing up which OL released to the second level. Herbert made a lot of chicken salad out of chicken shit- it shows how much a back who wins against a free hitter makes.

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Looking forward to the analysis. Is Artis #15 still on the roster at LB? He redshirted and now not even playing any snaps. What was your thoughts before he signed.

How cares about analysis of our offense? I want to hear what can be done to shore up this defense, where walk on Metheny is THIRD on the team in total tackles - yeah, try to wrap your mind around that one. I am thinking rotating one d tackle (Hewitt/Pollard/Kendricks) in with 3 DEs (mainly Reed/Barno/Belmar) to get our four best on the line and maybe the new guys (Bailey/Bryant/Woodard etc) to see if someone can make a tackle somewhere near the line of scrimmage.

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Really looking forward to French's analysis. Does the fact that we don't have any pass defense affect the way the LBs are playing? Are they out of position because they are trying to protect the safeties? Will we change the way we use the LBs when we have CBS and Safeties we can trust?

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More OP data for you - How does the Hokies' offense compare, through 3 games?

Among teams with 3 or more games:
#11 Total Offense
#7 among P5 teams
#2 Rushing Offense
#1 among P5 teams
#6 Scoring Offense
#3 among P5 teams

How about Herbert on 44 carries?
#4 in Rushing yards (with 56 fewer carries than #1)
#3 among P5 rushers (with 49 fewer carries than #1)
#2 in Yards per carry among P5 rushers
t8th in touchdowns
t4th in touchdowns among P5 rushers

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Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Get that man a fat stack of flap jacks for that game he was outstanding again.

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I was thinking the same thing. "The Blind Side", what a great movie!

Ut Prosim Ad Dei Gloriam

dayum boy! I caught that last block mid action and was hype, then I saw Herbert was breaking the run.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

Darrishaw is our top NFL target. Great player, and he will go this year- time to get paid.

PFF rated VT's offensive line as "Offensive Line of the Week" and placed both Darrisaw and Lecitus Smith on its Offensive Team of the week. Pretty impressive.

Life is good.

Darrisaw and Smith were very good. Right side was hit or miss. UNC did a good job of using their DTs to tie up the OL, so someone would come free. Herbert made a lot of guys miss.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Not bad for two mid 3 stars, one of which (Smith) was classified as a tight end and the other (Darrisaw) had no other FBS offers. May be time to give Vice a raise.

Agreed. I am not down after the UNC loss at all. We lost to a quality team by 11 while never giving up and making it interesting. We did this while we were incredibly outmatched on defense because of COVID. This year has been wild with upsets and crazy games. It looks like our offense has been built to produce finally and the defense will come back around.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

A healthy Deablo makes tackles Matheny missed. No slight on Matheny, but there is a reason Deablo is the starter.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Jenkins, too.

This post reeks of common sense. Well done sir.

VTCC '86 Delta Company, Hokie in Peru, Former Naval Aviator, Former FBISA, Forever married to my VT87 girl. Go VT!

I concur. I was very upset until the third quarter happened and we showed a lot of fight. The defense can't get much worse and should get markedly better with key starters returning, including team captain and senior leader Deablo. Even with a horrific performance, no turnovers, and near perfect execution on UNC's part, we were still in the game. Not pretty, but getting the roster back to near full strength should help tremendously. The offense should only get better as HH builds some confidence, and they're already playing very well.

Now if only or defense could get COVID-ly Negative

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.