Louisville goes blackout for Saturday

What do you guys think the Hokies should counter with?

I'm not sure about all orange, but think we should use the reflective orange helmets.

Credit to Louisville for a sweet reveal video.

https://twitter.com/UofLFootball/status/1321229439523418113?s=20

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I think we should worry about winning this game vs our uniforms. But that's just me.

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i think we should go stormtrooper and i think it doesn't matter what uniforms we wear anyway and i think message board opinions on uniforms really don't matter anyway

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The 09 Pro Combat all white was, is, should forever be our away jersey.

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Our current all white combo is way cleaner.

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I disagree. Those all white pro combats are the cleanest uniforms I've seen VT wear. I also really hate the shoulder stripes so I am biased, admittedly, but those were very good looking unis

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The fade on the numbers was cool. The weird shoulder piping wasn't great and the asymmetrical helmet stripe was ugly.

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We (fans) won't win anything and coaches will not spend any time preparing the uniforms.

That said, I dont really have an away preference. Probably go traditional helmet white jersey maroon pants

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I will focus all of my attention on winning the game.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Totally agree. The mods should shut down this thread immediately and get everybody ready for the game on Saturday. Have any of you even started watching film on Louisville yet? My gosh. /s

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This is the equivalent of telling the neighborhood kids to get off of other neighbors lawns. Let them have fun and let the neighbors deal with their own yards!

I have had this happen. Neighbor kids were digging up one of my flower beds. Other neighbor across the street told them to stop (we weren't home at the time). The kid's response "Well our parents won't let us dig up our yard."

Thankful that neighbor stepped in.

Right, your neighborhood kids were destroying your yard though. I just don't see how the original post is harming anything. It spurs on discussion for those who want to talk about uniforms.
I don't think the first response to someone's post on a topic they want to discuss should be: "who cares, it's not important." Obviously some people care and this topic is for those people to discuss.

Your analogy is terrible to begin with. Digging up someone's yard actively causes harm to another person's property. That is pretty discouraged in our society. I don't see how that relates to a football thread about uniforms which is in no way harmful to anyone or anything.

Oh yeah, we, the fans on an online forum, should focus on winning the game? I don't know about you but I'm certainly not suiting up for the game.

This game is on the ACC Network, and to many of us that's already a blackout

two blackouts in a row smh

Danny Coale caught it

Friday and Saturday night at TOTS.

You forgot Tuesday Karaoke and the usual Thursdays

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

But those are consecutive days.

Touche. But if you have three White Claw rails on Tuesday, I can pretty much guarantee on Thursday you'll still be blacked out

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

We desperately need a win. Having said that, Louisville - which was G5 when we went to the Natty game- having an apparel deal worth 8X ours is just awesome. If we had a proportionate deal, perhaps Nike would hook us up with halloween uni's.

Having said that, Louisville - which was G5 when we went to the Natty game- having an apparel deal worth 8X ours is just awesome.

Louisville population: 770,517
Blacksburg Population: 44,678

Dallas Population - 6.3 million
Louisville Population- 770, 517

SMU's Nike deal is less than ours and not a rounding error on Louisville's deal.

Dallas has pro sports, Lousiville doesn't. Louisville is the third biggest city in the country (behind Austin and El Paso) that does not have pro sports. Texas rightfully has a better deal than us and there's not a P5 team in El Paso.

You mean SMU? Death Penalty SMU? A team, that within the timeframe outlined, since 200, has won 3 or fewer games 8 times including a goose egg...That SMU? Well, yeah, it should be less than ours.

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the point is that it doesn't inherently scale with local population, so making that argument is somewhat of a non sequitur

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Since 2000-2001 they have had a Heisman Winner. And a National Title* in basketball. (Along with 5 other Final 8 appearances.) Yes, it's Adidas, but we aren't on the same level as them, even comparing our football to their basketball. Or our basketball to their football.

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8X the amount though? we are getting ripped off.

At 8x, maybe...
They do have banners and trophies...just saying.

And I feel like some tend to overvalue the Hokie brand. L'ville is black/red/white. A simple colorway, a common colorway. With a mad bird as a logo. I mean, I remember back in the day when Dr. Dre used to where a Cincinnati Bearcats hat with the C and the claws above it. No connection to Cincy, just a bad ass logo/hat with common colorway. Maroon and orange isn't outside of the Blacksburg bubble. Maybe a few high school teams here and there, but not many people are going to search out maroon and orange shirts/hats just because.

Yes, the 8 times is a difficult pill to swallow. Yes, the deal is there, has been there, and will get revamped at some point in the future. We get it. This doesn't change what it is, nor the amount in the deal one bit.

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Ever since Beyonce unveiled her Ivy Park line I have seen a lot more O&M in pop culture

I've never seen a fanbase so dedicated to and so good at rationalizing its own mediocrity - truly a mind bottlingly unique and staggeringly devastating talent.

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You guys are also forgetting about the fact that Louisville has an endless supply of pizza and strippers, and lots of them. Hard to compete with that type of recruiting. Throw in a few shady shoe deals, and their brand skyrockets. They got a slap on the hand for doing what they were doing, so I wouldn't expect it to change the way they operate.

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Louisville has an endless supply of pizza and strippers, and lots of them.

I am 800% committed the the university of Louisville. Respect my decision

"It's always great to beat UVA, that makes us all smarter and better looking for a couple days".

Louisville - which was G5 when we went to the Natty game

We were in the Big East back then, so basicaly G5 as well.

Basketball and Papa John got them their apparel deals. A Heisman winner helps, too.

Big East in that era was far from G5 level, it was definitely a good conference at that point with Syracuse, VT, Miami, BC, and Pitt all fielding pretty good teams in the 90's.

Louisville is always listed as the basketball program with the highest revenue each year. This has always seemed odd to me. Part of that is a function of their apparel deal, but they must have a ton of fans to outpace Duke, UK and UNC. 8x is a huge disparity but I don't think there's anything we can do about that right now. We just reupped our deal at the wrong time.

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Interesting...well, as far as accounting goes. Curious if they have started paying down some of that debt in the years since this was published. Certainly a huge advantage for the University to not have to fund their own facility outright. To paraphrase Bill Simmons, "I think schools should pay for their own f-ing stadiums"

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The issue is that we basically have zero leverage when our new deal comes up, due to the product on the field. We won't be negotiating as a sweet 16 hoops program and ACC football contender. In fact, our new deal could be just as bad or worse when compared to our peers. We are likely coming to the table as the 7-8th best football team in the ACC- hardly leverage.

Fortunately those deals are not only based on team performance I guess.

So, we should just simply be over-paid is what you are saying? Because by this standard, we haven't earned a big-time deal.

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We should be paid fair market value. Which is lower now than it was when we were winning more. Also fair market value for VT is likely to move away from Nike- which will never happen. I think Whit would stick with Nike if they paid us zero money and just let us wear the swoosh.

I disagree with a lot of this. I think the FMV would be higher now because of the overall apparel deal market(Adidas as UA have been willing to throw around cash). I have no idea why you don't think Whit would be willing to move away from Nike or at least entertain competitive offers. He didn't even negotiate the last deal.

Under Armour is done picking up new schools. They are dumping the ones they previously signed as it is. And Adidas is laying low because of the shoe scandal. Nike is who we are, and who we will be. And the bubble for inflated signings is past. Even if it's near to the past, with the pandemic, losing the basketball tournament last year, fans -in-the-seats revenue this year for football, and who knows what bball looks like this year, all while schools are cutting complete sports programs, you're not going to "get paid" in a uni deal.

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I'm not as sure as you about having no other offers. If you want to talk about the collegiate athletics bubble bursting then yeah that's a whole different deal. In that case the schools like UL would be getting dumped by their providers (like UCLA) and our deal would become competitive again. In which case this whole discussion is irrelevant to where this started.

UCLA is currently negotiating with Nike on a record deal numbers wise.

I was told by Chris Coleman and others that if VT went away from Nike "Buzz Williams and others" would jump ship and it would be doomsday. Welp Buzz is coaching at an Adidas school. At any rate, apparently Whit sees "value" in Nike for VT besides hard cash. If he is referring to football recruiting, yeah I don't see it.

Perhaps he only sees value in not trashing his current contract so that Nike is still legitimately interested in bidding on the next contract, for which we can take the highest/best bid.

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I kinda get it. I do think Whit talking up the brand value may have been a bit of turd polishing of the current deal.

Only one logical thing to do. You guys have not been watching enough ACCN. After our current uni contract is up WE'RE A COPPER FIT SKOOL! Brand alignment! Make it happen, Whit!

"It's always great to beat UVA, that makes us all smarter and better looking for a couple days".

Is that a package deal so we can get Brett Favre and Jerry Rice on the coaching staff?

I know it's hard for you but please resist the urge to whine every time someone mentions uniforms.

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And we were a G5 athletic department when we went to the Natty, we were in the A10 for everything but football.

They also have won national titles in basketball and have a college football award named after one of their players.

I am also going with blackout during the game on Saturday....

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Beat me to it.

The only way I can watch this team play on an ongoing basis

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I would just like to note that this video absolutely rules.

sitting in the chair at the end holding the red balloons was awesome, really great video.

Sigh. I hate UVA.

Haven't seen this post on here yet so I'll put it out there... Would be fun for VT to do an orange color rush uni for halloween black vs. orange
(Halloween's my favorite holiday)

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I'm all for #allorangeeverything for this game for sure.

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Halloween is a holiday? Maybe in the Pueblo. Maybe more like a celebration.
That said, I like your uni idea and I'm usually the "traditional only" guy when it comes to them.

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If you use your floating holiday at work it is.

that was a pretty slick vid and it's a nice looking uni IMO. They're going to look good out there. Look good, feel good, play good. I hope our guys come out looking fresh too! And playing better than last week.

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Not gonna lie, at first I thought this meant the game will be unable for us to watch again. Now that I know this is about uniforms who cares what we wear, just win baby...

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It's halloween. Wear the pumpkins.

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How do you post these? I got a sweet combo but can't figure out how to share the image

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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Weird...when I save the image, it shows a fully uniformed dude on the website, but the saved file comes out to this...

I am pretty sure more than socks and cleats are required to play

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Oh no, please no more camo uniforms.

Okay, I just did a screenshot, then cropped it. Think I got it now

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Just feet was better. If you were trying for the most hideous combo you gotta have the foghorn leghorn helmet.

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that's....... busy

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Isn't this the uni we wore last week vs. Wake?

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Why dont we do something like this as a exit light theme and have unique metallica text jerseys for a one off game?

On the front above the numbers enter night and on the back exit light?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

traditional road uniform...says the old guy.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

I don't even know what that is anymore.....MWW?

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Old school, Starter jerseys (ala Druk ages).

We put the K in Kwality

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Perfect. Stained and all.

We put the K in Kwality

you can see the CTE in this photo

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Druck might've had the CTE before the photo...he took some huge hits that year. That dude took a beating for this school.

We really need to get the Starter sponsorship back. Those pull-over jackets were fire.

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Hell yeah

Even better...
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That was a sick video.

Wear the pumpkins!! To hell with the superstition!!

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I feel like blackout uniforms lose their luster/mystique if the game is not a night game

...That's what Maryland does.

I don't give a damn what the fans think cause, quite frankly, I know what the fans want better than they do.

Them wearing all black and us wearing all orange on Halloween is the only circumstance in which I would advocate for AOE.

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Pumpkin spice all the way!!!

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Nice vid, and that Waverly Hills sanitorium is a seriously for-real spooky place. Too bad the only other Halloween color left is our kryptonite: orange. :-/

Only orange helmet we should ever wear is the metallic orange one. If it's not that then go for white or standard maroon, white, maroon

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All orange IMO. I mean its Halloween after all. But the metallic orange helmets.

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I hear you wear black when you're mourning, let's give them something to feel sorry about.

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White jersey. Lame. Black vs orange would've looked cool on Halloween.

Wow we even (tried to) do a Halloween video too but just did maroon/ white/ maroon unis.

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Can some one explain to me which is more important uniform color or time of possession I always forget.

FAINTs actually

Every year for Halloween if we are away it should be ALL ORANGE EVERYTHING!!!

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Okay, I'm ranting.

The last time I actually understood what we were trying to do with our uniforms was 2007. Since then, it's been a weird mix of traditional with crazy. It hasn't been crazy all the time like Oregon in the early 2010s. It hasn't been traditional all the time like us before 2008. Last year we decided to go traditional after the Duke loss (with the exception of the URI game where we wore white helmets). Then we go traditional against NC State and Duke in the first game of 2020, so I think that's our new thing. Then we wear something crazy against UNC, white helmets against Boston College, and then back to somewhat traditional for Wake and now Louisville. I know maybe only two other people care about this, but I just thought I'd get it out of my system.

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If ya really think about it, we haven't played so hot ever since the foghorn leghorn helmet

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Don't forget the Hokie track helmets from that season in the Austin Peay game. Or the Fighting Gobbler helmet in the bowl game against Rutgers. Not sure what our obsession was with putting our mascot on our helmet that season.

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I really liked the fighting gobbler helmets though

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Matte maroon with the orange FG and pointed stripe was the BEST helmet I'd ever dreamed of.

Did anyone get one in the auction after that season?

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Metallic orange helmet would of been better

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That number font has never looked worse than it does in this picture.

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Really missed the ball here by not wearing all orange.

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I'd really prefer us to win, so ban the orange.

What uniform colors do we win in?

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Everyone but the orange

EDIT: I researched and we lose when our pants and jerseys don't match.

AOE is actually a strong color for us, but AME should be the standard.

We were 1-3 in Maroon/White/Maroon last season.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I think we should go with some Shock & AWE! (Stormtrooper unis in other words)

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Maybe we couldn't do anything right last week because we we stormtroopers. I mean... we had a very similar success rate.

We had three balls hit the enemy, thats much better than storm troopers

I was a little disappointed when the revealed the kit for this weekend. Then I was embarrassed and a little mad with that dumb clown emoji the hokiesfb account used with the pennywise clip. That has made me think on this longer than usual and now I'm mad at the the free publicity VT gave up by not just going with AOE on Halloween. A black v orange game on Halloween just seems like a no brainier, especially in a meaningless season.

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Those were my thoughts exactly. Anyone else that would tune into the game would have seen black and orange and would have thought how cool that was being on Halloween. Probably would have gotten a shoutout on ESPN, etc. Really don't get how the marketing people or whoever decides uniforms were this daft.

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Agreed. Not only would it have been a good marketing ploy, but it would have been fun. Couldn't we all use a little fun right now?

I feel like the school could have done something really cool with these jerseys. Orange for Halloween with a cool design ie - the pro combat jerseys that win best jersey. I know what I just said has been stated multiple times, but the kicker is....at the end of the release video you could of did a jersey buy in/pre order with the really cool Halloween edition jerseys #25 with the/some of the money going to support the HC, AD, etc. People always say "what does my money get me" here was an opportunity missed.

I think spending extra on a jersey, even if only a false perception, wouldn't look great this year.

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That depends on how good the marketing is. If its popular, it could be a money maker.

The black jerseys we wore against Boise should be brought back, and that was a loss. It's still popular after 10 years.

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I'd be all over one of those. Loved the PCB design