Mandalolrian Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers n such Included)

I woke up this morning ready to be all productive and then I remembered the new season was out. I will wait for more people to watch before I start diving into it, but it did not disappoint in the first episode. If you are a more classic Star Wars Junkie, there are several easter eggs from Legends story's including Knights of the old Republic.

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Plan on watching the first episode here at lunch. Looking forward to it.

My oldest woke me up at 0430 asking if it was time to watch yet. He was very disappointed when we had to wait for the rest of the house to wake up.. But we got it in before school and it was great. Left off right where the first season ended, great show!

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Really great way to start the season. Loved when they pulled the Krayt pearl at the end. One of my fondest parts of KOTOR.

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Realized there arn't spoiler tags on this post. Loved the last shot. Could be a really great storytelling choice if that particular character is used in moderation.

I should have tagged as spoilers, so fixed that.

I guess everyone assumes it is Boba based off his armor being in the whole episode, and it probably is. But it wouldn't surprise me if it is some other clone.

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I just mean I don't know how many people will recognize that is the same actor that played Jango Fett. People don't have the best memory/attention spans these days and Episode 2 came out awhile ago.

I can't imagine it being some random clone. How would the Jawas have his armor unless Boba himself got out of the Sarlacc Pit? It's not like they could have gone down there and gotten it themselves.

I know that's been his story in the non-canon Legends expanded universe. This just seemed to make it official. I would love if Mandalorian actually gave us that scene of him getting free.

Agreed on all counts. I guess my question is only why would he have had to be separated from the armor int he first place?

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Traded it so the Jawas would save his life in the desert?

The show has done a good job showing further how shrewd they are as traders.

The only way he gave it up was willingly, that much is clear. It is The Way. I almost feel that was the entire point of the first scene. "You arn't getting this armor unless you kill me or I give it to you." That crime boss had no interest in Baby Yoda, he wanted the Beskar steel.

Boba Fett gave up his armor for some reason.

Seriously I am not sure, but I feel like we will find out. And that will be fun storytelling

But Fett is not a Mando since he took his helmet off correct?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Imma shit my pants if that's rex or one of the last few clones

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Don't over think it. It's going to be Boba Fett. I love Star Wars but I have no idea who you are talking about.

Also, why would a clone feel any source of loyalty to some armor? They were in effect programmed except for Boba.

rex is from clone wars and rebels cartoon series. but there would be no reason for him to pursue Boba's armor let alone even know about it.

You are correct without a doubt about that. I also do not feel like the show is trying to pull a fast one on us.

Now that being said, there is no way to fully assume that whoever that was at the end was even interested in that armor; could have been interested in Mando himself.

But I am only thinking of reasons why it could turn out to not be Fett. I fully expect it to be Boba Fett.

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Mando took his own helmet off at least twice in the first season. When we see his face finally it was with IG, but he also took it off in the village when no one was around to see him.

Technically we have never seen Boba Fett take his helmet off. He picked up Jango's helmet after his head got cut off. I get your point, but there is evidence in canon that Mandalorians do take their helmets off when they are not concerned about who will see them/know they arn't breaking The Way. It was stated directly that it's not a problem to take it off in front of a droid.

correct. the rule not to never take it off. it's don't take it off in front of others.

Really enjoyed episode 1. Do they release a new one each week?

yep. every week

Just watched with the 10-year old (who actually picked The Mandalorian as his costume). Worth the wait. Really enjoyed the first ep. looking forward to this season.

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Only thing that could've made the first episode better is clint eastwood as the town sheriff but oh well still was an awesome start to the season. Curious to see if they find anyone else while on tatooine

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What I gathered from watching Episode 1 of season 2 is that Danny Cordray kind of landed on skid row after leaving Michael Scott and Dunder Mifflin.

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Did the Mandalorian just pull off Justified in space?

He said give to me Roscoe

That was 100% a justified episode, Olyphant even shoots his blaster the exact same way as he does in Justified. Loved it

Also strong Deadwood vibes. The bartender at Most Pelgo was W. Earl Brown, who played Dan Dority in Deadwood with Olyphant.

long thread about him getting this gig:

That was such an entertaining thread. I think most of us would fan girl if we got the chance to be in a Star Wars show. It's always amusing to see actors act like the rest of us.

Some other cool easter eggs besides the Krayt Dragon pearl from Knights of the Old Republic;

R5-D4 got his bad motivator repaired and found a home!

Olyphant's speeder looked suspiciously like the podrace engine Anakin built in Episode 1

So I believe a Podracer engine that is standalone and a bike is called a Swoop. They definitely want you to think that "Swoop" is made out of one of Anakin's engines. I doubt we ever hear anything else about it so a really fun easter egg there.

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(mando spoilers for those of you who are comments via the New Comments tab) Gotta be boba fett. Just gotta be. Totally headfaked me with the marshall being Just A Guy making me think that there was no way boba was alive. Awesome episode. I am SO JAZZED rn

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It was a really good way to start the season. One of my favorite episodes of the series so far.

Having the Marshall come in and take his helmet off was a great head fake, no pun intended

So the armor the marshall was wearing was Boba Fett's old gear?

Yes

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Yes. That was Fetts armor.

Great Easter egg too with him firing the rocket and blowing up those guys.

The original Boba Fett action figure had a jet pack with a shootable rocket but it got pulled because kids were hitting themselves in the eye with it.

If you have one of the original figures with fireable rocket it's worth a ton.

My favorite part of the whole episode is when Mando whacks the back of Fett's pack with a stick and ignites it on the Marshall's back the same way Han accidentally did before Boba went on Hiatus in the Sarlac.

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Totally headfaked me with the marshall being Just A Guy

They'd already pulled the "is that Boba Fett? nope, just a guy" reveal in the Aftermath books. His backstory is littered in all three books of that trilogy. Folks who read those were watching that scene like...

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The backstory was covered (the first time, i think) in a collection of short stories call Tales of the Bounty Hunters, about 10 years before the Aftermath books were released (which admittedly I haven't read). The short version - after a long telepathic discussion between Fett and the Sarlaac he manages to reignite his jump pack and fly out.

IF there is any tie-in to that story and the Mandalorian series it definitely helps explain his presence on Tatooine and the extremely rough shape of the armor we saw in the episode.

This was in response to you, gobble

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Love it!

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When I first saw the armor I started thinking about this video. When they said a Sarlac was killed by the Krayt Dragon thought about it even more.

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Great episode. So much to love that I can barely unpack it all!

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I just watched season 2, episode 1 and it was fantastic! I loved the Tatooine Easter eggs and it was clearly Boba Fett! I can't wait to see how his story unfolds this season!

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Such a great start to this season. Favreau just straight up gets it. What we have been given so far has been gold. I hope to the high heavens that Hollywood takes a ton of notice when future star wars movies are made

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This.

The Mandolorian just "gets" the feel of Star Wars that I havn't felt with the most recent movies.

And credit Disney too (that was hard to type). The budget and production values for the show are top notch. Just look at that Krayt Dragon. That thing looked phenomenal

I'd argue having a guy like Dave filoni alongside the other director is huge. After watching clones wars Filoni might be my favorite star wars director george aside. He just gets it and knows how to do a star wars show

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This 100%. Faveau is a tremendous director, but also so intelligent and dare I say humble to get a guy like Filoni. Filoni really knows the ins and outs of the SW universe which adds to the credibility and legitimacy.

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The more I watch them the clone wars might be my favorite star wars content Filoni is a God amongst men for that show. If you love star wars at all and mandalorian go watch the Clone wars show it's so good you'll lose yourself in it for weeks.

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I thought Rogue One was the only movie that had the "SW Vibe" to it. Favreau and Filoni definitely get the vibe and have crafted the show appropriately. Filoni has done that with most of his SW projects, which goes to show that Star Wars should have had a head man like Marvel had (Kevin Feige) all along. If they let Filoni be in charge of SW like Feige was of Marvel, I guarantee you every one of those sequel movies would have been excellent.

Also, I love how this show really takes advantage of its guest stars.

Olyphant was fantastic and I hope we see him again this season.

And I love Amy Sedaris' character. "If this thing ever divides or buds let me know."

Now I have to rewatch Justified again.

Just watched it last night, really becoming my newest SW crush. Mandalorian is helping me forget the many storytelling failures of episodes VII thru IX. Seriously intrigued about how this whole season will play out, please don't screw it up Mouse like you did other SW projects. Help us Obi-wan Filoni, you're our only hope.

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What makes me love The Mandalorian so much is that it's clearly made by people that love the original movies as much as I do.

Just had a chance to watch the first couple minutes of the 2nd episode before heading to work. Just really entertaining television. For as much as people love Boba Fett, Mando is way more of a badass.

I think a lot of that is colored by the decades between how stars made people badasses. If you took all of Boba's built up lore and then let Favreau and Filoni work him onto screen then IMO Boba is gonna be the bigger badass, which is ideally what we will see later this season.

I don't disagree. It would be a waste of bringing the character to the show to not make it clear that the lore was justified.

Second episode was good, leaves you with another cliffhanger with out answering the previous one. Baby yoda causing shenanigans again, dude is always hungry and my 7 year old informed me that is because he has been a baby for 50 years so he has a lot of catching up to do. Duh dad

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Being in quarantine the last 3 weeks I've watched alot of star wars but man that was a good episode. My wife hates spiders so she almost passed out when the eggs started bursting. This show had a way to get you invested quickly and I felt tense when they were escaping the lair.

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Another episode, another fun cameo. This time it's Paul Sun-Hyung Lee, one of the stars of Kim's Convenience. He's a big Star Wars fan and regularly cosplays, so this was a dream role for him.

Co-creator Dave Filoni also reprises his role as an X-Wing pilot in the episode as well.

Episode 2 was too freaking adorable.

I don't know what Baby Yoda is exactly, but his diet is *disgusting*

just think of the eggs as extremely oversized caviar

Enjoying this series more and more. For whatever reason I like this season better than the last.
Baby yoda having a thing for the frog eggs was pretty funny.

I may be the only one a bit disappointed with episode. It was not bad at all, but coming off that last ons it really felt like a place filler. With only 8 episodes a season they have alot to get to, and that one seemed to really not expand the overall story any, but was a decent standalone. It was an excuse to flex the new republic muscle a bit and show you they are out there.

Not bad at all but not constructive to the overall plot line. Unless that frog spawn turns out to be really important.

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100% agree, I was pretty disappointed. Entertaining? Yes. But it didn't feel like the plot advanced in any way what soever. Did I care about this frog character? Not at all.

With Frog Lady being in at least the next episode, you'd have to think she's not going to end up being some throwaway character.

There were little tidbits given that she might be more interesting under the surface:

She could clearly understand the Mandalorian. She only needed to hack the droid so it could interpret for her, not the other way around. And the fact that she could hack the droid in the first place.

She has pretty decent aim with a blaster.

And I thought it was pretty sweet when she straight up started frog hopping

frog lady was the mcguffin, the spiders were the key to the episode.

How do? Not her being the McGuffin but the spiders being the key?

those spiders were in Rebels animated series. Sabine Wren, who is a Mandalorian and one time holder of the dark saber, fought them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3oYbI-4BBI) and she is rumored to be in the series this season. Also she was last seen heading off with Ahsoka Tano (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_bhX7ABpj8) in the series finale who is also rumored/confirmed to be in this season played by Rosario Dawson. These are two of Filoni's favorite characters. So IMO the spiders are foreshadowing for Sabine appearing soon.

So admittedly, as big of a Star Wars fan as I am I have never seen any of the animated stuff. I overdosed on all the old canon when I was younger so I just haven't gotten there yet.

That being said, are the spiders important? Or just something for everyone who has seen Rebels to go

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for as much foreshadowing Season 1 did I feel confident in that, also given that both characters are meant to be in this Season. The spiders though are old canon that Filoni brought back. I assume he is using them here in an otherwise throwaway episode for a reason beyond just having a larger danger

I know there is a some great original art by McQuarrie that shows a white spider laying eggs on Dagobah. It was in the Illustrated Universe book which I've had forever.

Those spiders looked closer to that than the krykna

That's exactly where Filoni pulled the spiders from. They were never used except in that image and he wanted to introduce them.

You should watch the clone wars and rebels. I only did bc DCIMSA recommended to me in one of the movie threads (VIII? I think). The Clone Wars series is the best star wars content.

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This is the way.

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This is the way.

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Ah ok. I thought you meant more in terms of them being an important plot point.

But as foreshadowing, certainly.

wrong Dark Saber holder from Rebels series (at least in this episode). Right foreshadowing.

I hear ya on the limited episodes this season part and they need to get on with the story. If they are still doing the adventure of the week type deal next week or really, with any more episodes left in the season, then this episode will look at a lot worse in retrospect. But for now, I thought it was a fun little adventure

Chapter 11 awesome, Mando kicking ass and taking names with some new friends

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Chap 11 is about everything you could want in a Star Wars Show. I also like how they aren't trying to surprise anyone with Ahsoka, I think it leads to better writing when you don't focus everything into a big reveal.

Gideon and Ahsoka saver fight coming?

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I would've liked it more if I didn't know that Ahsoka was going to be in the show. They could've done the reveal the same way as in this episode or wait til he actually gets to her. I agree focusing on reveals can ruin the moment, but I'd still like to have surprise reveals, it makes it more fun.

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She is inevitably going to have a duel with Gideon so she will get her moment.

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The first two season of Clone Wars is definitely too kiddy. But the rest of Clone Wars and Rebels are definitely not just for kids. But even if they were, who cares, they are two of best Star Wars products out there to watch, so damn... that's some amazing kid shows.

As someone who has not watched either (other than a couple of random episodes while flipping through channels when insomnia kicks in) - which should I start with? Rebels or Clone Wars? Just got Disney+ so figure I should take advantage of it!

Clone wars is after Episode II leading literally into order 66 of Episode III and Rebels is a few years after III leading towards Rogue One (the ship "Ghost" is an easter egg in that movie though none of the characters are shown). Based on that I would start clone wars since it is earlier in the timeline but since Star Wars does not tell stories in order no need to follow a logical path and you can do either without messing yourself up.

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Agreed. Clones Wars is probably the better start as Rebels co-mingles some of the same characters and is later in the timeline

Funny thing I noticed the ghost in the last movie of the newest trilogy at the end when chewie and Lando show up they're the ship right behind the falcon. Personally clone wars the show is my favorite show but I haven't finished rebels yet so we will see but rebels is also top notch stuff

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Watch the first six seasons of clone wars, then watch rebels, then watch season 7 of the clone wars

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this is good advice

^^^What he said^^^

Why? I know that that's the order the shows came out, but I watched them straight through and thought it was fine

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I watched them in this order and I believe this is the order they were released in. I think seeing the S7 Siege of Mandalore arc after Rebels (with the crossover characters, no spoilsies here!) makes the payoff that much better. Maybe Rebels payoff is better after watching S7? But I don't think so. I like the filled in history of S7 affecting the way I look at Rebels in retrospect

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Thanks! This sounds like a winner!

Piggybacking on what Gobble Gobble Chumps said, I would recommend doing Clone Wars Season 1-6 chronologically. As it is on Disney + it's a little out of order.

https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-epi...

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So this definately makes it more of a task (instead of mindlessly letting episodes autoplay). In your opinion, what is the main benefit to doing it this way in terms of viewer experience? Do the "out of place" episodes make following the story more confusing at times?

Thanks again everyone for the suggestions/input!

Nah, it won't be confusing. It's more a narrative impact kind of deal if you watch it in the order they suggested (which I agree with). If you watch Rebels before the final season of Clone Wars, you'll gain a deeper understanding of certain characters and story arcs when you do watch that final season of CW. It's one of the rare instances where knowing the outcome of story events doesn't hurt the story. It actually adds to it. But if you wanted to watch all of Clone Wars beginning to end and then do Rebels, there wouldn't be any issue there as far as plot confusion.

i agree with this. it's not crucial to understanding, but do feel the payoff of S7 was incredible.

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Yes, highly highly recommend watching in chronological order. I found the discontinuity in CW very confusing, especially since they mostly happen in earlier seasons when you're still getting a grip on everything.

As for CW S7 and Rebels, I think 101WildTurkeys makes a good argument. As someone who watched all of CW and then Rebels, I thought it set the stage for some Rebels events pretty well.

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I've used these sites to weave together a modified Rister order for watching the Star Wars universe. I weaved the shows and movies into one large overarching story.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media#js - you can customize what you want included in the list

https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/13/20959862/star-wars-watch-order-disney... - good article with a couple different watching orders. It focuses mostly on the movies though

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Def clone wars, it adds so much more substance to episode III imo.

Call me a 41 year old kid then because I love them and so do my 4, 7 and 10 year olds which probably proves your point. Growing old is required, growing up is optional...

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Yes the Attack on Umbara and Siege of Mandalore are definitely for kids...

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So uh Bo-katan is definitely qualified. Love that they're bringing her and the fight for mandalore into this potentially. Would've loved to see moncala underneath the waters surface though.

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Huge nerd crossing sci-fun shows.

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Yep very qualified as I said. Personally was hoping it might've been sabine till I saw the armors paint job still exciting for Bo-katan to join the show.

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Really liked the introduction of those 3. The soundtrack was on point when they initially showed up too.

This show has become required watching, and my favorite Star Wars storyline since the original trilogy.

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What're the chances sabines with ahsoka when and if mando gets there?

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Decent chance, but I'd lean more to that being something they save for another season. From what I can remember from casting news, the only person I remember people who thought might be Sabine was gonna be Sasha Banks. Well, we know its not her since she showed up this episode as a different character.

I'm not sure if Sabine is going to be in this season, sadly. I could be wrong but I feel like pulling one more character into this current season for a major plot point might be just a bit too much of a good thing.

That being said, one thing I would love to see is Mando walking into a bar and he passes a table and it's an old grizzled Ezra Bridger and and old Cal Kestis seated and having a beer talking about how they might be the only two people that faced down Vader and lived. And then the camera pans off to follow Mando again and that's all we see of them.

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I'd agree it would be cool though sabine and ezra are two of my favorites. I'd love to see a grizzled Ezra but honestly I wouldn't mind that being held for another show one day if Filoni decided to follow the Rebels story since he did talk about how he wanted to leave rebels open just in case. Ezra was one at the beginning I hated but really fell for the character by the end of rebels.

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Episode 3 was awesome. Fist pumped when Bo-Katan showed up. But I gotta say, based on when Rebels was and the time frame for this show, she should be like in her 50s, maybe older. Katie Sackhoff might be too young to play her. Maybe her clan just has really good genes

I had similar thoughts. Considering how old Obi Wan looked in ANH and Rex in Rebels, I expected Bo-Katan to look a bit older. Or maybe just good skin care is also the way.

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Just guessing here (and I could be way off), but didn't Rex and company have the whole age acceleration thing going? As for Kenobi, I completely agree - the 20 years or so between III and IV certainly didn't treat him well. I guess living in a desert will really get after ya.

This has long been a continuity thing with the prequel vs the original trilogy with concern to Obi-Wan ageing. Luke is supposed to be 17 in a New Hope so only 17 years have passed from Ep III and Obi-Wan aged like 40 years? I think when looking at the timeline Bo-Katan would be in her 50's, but that lines up better here than with Alec Guinness being in his 50's in A New Hope since it feels like they made him out to be in his 70's.

Bearing in mind when A New Hope was made, most people thought it was just a silly sci fi B movie (Alec Guinness especially) that was going nowhere. George Lucas himself famously bet Spielberg about its possible success.

I can look past the aging issue considering having Ewan McGregor play a younger Obi Wan in a prequel trilogy wasn't really on the radar at first.

She keeps her face in a Hyperbaric chamber all day I'm sure that helps slow down the aging.

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This is about it, I doubt they thought they would ever show a younger hence the ageing is off a bit but I dont mind, kind of like they went back in and edited Anakin in the original trilogy at the end. Unfortunately Ben was a bit more involved in the original but personally I dont mind it.

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No to go fill nerfherder or anything but luke and Leia's are 19 in a new hope...

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This has long been a continuity thing with the prequel vs the original trilogy with concern to Obi-Wan ageing. Luke is supposed to be 17 in a New Hope so only 17 years have passed from Ep III and Obi-Wan aged like 40 years?

The most plausible answer is Obi-Wan was dyeing the entire time in the prequels. It's really hard to get Just For Men out on Tatooine, especially after the fall of the Republic, so that explains the difference when ANH starts

I would take a look at every recent before and after office photos of our US presidents and you can see what stress can really do to accelerate the aging process. I'm sure Obi-Wan spent 17 years talking to himself about what he could've done differently.

Perhaps he should have taken his own advice...

don't species all age differently in Star Wars? Bo-Katan still looking young could be within reason.

But Mandalorian is not a specific species, right?

The clans can be made up of members of different species, and its heavily implied even in The Mandalorian that is still the case.

ah yeah, that's probably right. I just remember that Mandalorians average 150 years lifespan, but that could all be old Legends material.

we also have a 50yo baby in the series... There's no universal aging scale in the star wars universe so no sense in trying to rationalize it.

Bo-Katan and Ashoka are obviously huge reveals, but Din being an even more extremist offshoot of DeathWatch is crazy! I also like that they've now explained the whole helmet thing and it makes perfect sense. I wonder if he'll ever be able to leave that cult.

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I was a little confused on when Bo-Katan said The Watch if she was talking about Death Watch (and didnt want to reveal her own involvement), or if it was really an independent organization.

Edit: A pretty good summary of what we know and the likely distinction between the two here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMandalorianTV/comments/jx6lra/why_do_people_...

Still though, I find it odd to describe Children of the Watch so similarly to Death Watch's known traits if you are trying to introduce something new and obviously separate. Maybe they were actually children of the (Death) Watch, which was an attempt to create a grass roots clan system througout the galaxy, or something. But it would be weird to keep Mandalore's habitability a secret. And also you would think they would instill hatred for the Jedi within the Children of the Watch above all else. The Armorer only describes the war with the Jedi from the old republic, not a more recent hatred of them. Sooooo, who knows. In Felini we trust that it all makes sense!

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So what you're saying is we should hire Dave Filoni as head coach?

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I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Just got caught up and what an episode that was. I then queued up some Rebels and started watching the Bo-Katan episodes. I'm pretty pleased with the way she was integrated into Mandalorian. Starting to feel like Bo-Katan going after the Dark Saber to free Mandalore is going to lead into a Ahsoka vs Moff Gideon lightsaber duel and I'm here for that.

Two other things about this episode that pleased me greatly: Frog Lady and Frog Dude and Lil' Frogs. I enjoyed watching something turn out good and happy. And the Razor Crest's landing made me literally LOL.

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I honestly hope we end up with a Bo-Katan heavy story. She's always been in the background with Clone Wars and Rebels, but I really want to see how things went down between her and the Empire and how she's gonna take back Mandalore and reunite the clans.

The more I think about it, after watching Baby Yoda and his "diet", I'm starting to think that actual Yoda was on Dagobah for more reasons than just the sheer amount of life hiding his Force profile from the Emperor.

Yoda was the apex predator in that swamp. Jedi Master that will literally eat anything

Also pretty sure his home on Dagobah was a straight skull from some forsakenly large beast he probably just killed with a quick force snap and then made its skull his home.

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😂 the force is strong with this one

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Star Wars related, just watched the lego holiday special with my kids and it was definitely entertaining

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

Chapter 12 does not disappoint. Mando teams up with old friends to kick more imperial ass, Moff shows back up, clues to why they wanted baby Yodas blood. They really need the team doing this show working on any future movies and shows to Make Star Wars Great Again

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“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

the moment they mentioned "m count" I got disappointed that they were about to re-tread all the dumb stuff from The Phantom Menace.

*Scout Troopers speed out of the hanger on their speeders and ride down the side of of the cliff*

Me to the gf: "oh hey, look at the storm troopers doing something badass!"

*Scout trooper immediately clips a rock and crashes into another trooper*

At the end of the episode, was Gideon standing in a room full of Dark Trooper (!?!) armor?

I thought it might be uniforms for TIE fighter pilots.

edit: you're right. the descriptive audio confirms it (you can turn it on via the audio/subtitles menu)

I dunno what they were but they looked bad ass.

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Mando Chapter 12 goes a long long way to explaining some of the plot holes in the sequel trilogy -- namely: 1) how did the First Come come to be if there was already a New Republic in place, 2) wtf is snoke 3) wtf is with "resurrected"/"never actually fully dead" Palpatine return and what was the mechanism of that

The lab scene is pretty awesome in that regard -- needing high-midichlorian blood from a force user to do genetic or bio engineering in lab to make force sensitive clones?

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I wish the sequel trilogy had gone the Dark Empire route regarding Palpatine still being around. It was explained really well and was a much bigger part of that story, but it wasn't ridiculous either.

Hell, I wish they had just made the Grand Admiral Thrawn trilogy into the 3 new movies. So much good material from really talented writers out there.

i read those books in the last two weeks -- pretty good! I think we see some parallels with the cloning stuff happening. i appreciate filoni and favreau taking time to canonize some things that were "established" but decanonized

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If anyone has any book reccomendations I would love the hear them, just finished clone wars and rebels and have a lonely star wars void that needs to be filled with more lore. I'm personally super pissed Maul wasnt involved in the sequel trilogy.

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how could he be, tho

also, read the decanonized Thrawn trilogy (Timothy Zahn's originals)

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I can't emphasize this enough. The original trilogy books written by Zahn were excellent reads, and I have re-read them a couple times since the original release back in the early 90's. If you are looking for some fun reads I would go back to 1990 and starting reading in release order:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_novels_by_release_date#1991

Ah shit I got my timelines confused. Forgot rebels was before the original trilogy. But to get wacky with it maybe palpatine could have resurrected him and used him as a truly evil apprentice not some flaky kylo guy. I dunno I just felt he never got used to his potential in the story the way other siths were.

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Yes.

Dark Force Rising
Heir to the Empire
The Last Command

You can get all three on Amazon for about $20. Really really good read. And Disney can tell us all they want they arn't canon...but we know...we know.

The Jedi Academy Trilogy by Kevin J. Anderson is also really good. Kyp Durron and Exar Kun are some of my favorite SW characters. Han and Chewie in the spice mines of Kessel! The Maw installation and Admiral Daala. So much good stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Academy_trilogy

have you read the second Thrawn trilogy? that might be next for me

as far as the first thrawn trilogy not being canon (and we know they aren't), sure seems like this most recent episode started hinting at a lot of the bigger plot points.

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[confirms book existence]
[heads to amazon]
[adds all three to cart]
[places order]

This thread is really a warm happy place, thanks all for the reccomendations I'll start digging and start reading. Personally I really loved the way the shows flesh out the main characters in ways not seen in the movies so its made me more interested than ever in digging into the expanded universe.

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I was surprised to hear the word midichlorian honestly. I would be interested to see how you feel this fills in the gaps in regard to the first order as I only see Moff as more a leftover from the war and not an official first order thing. I couldnt tell what the clones were they looked snoke ish but so does alot of things I see in toilets all the time. Did they say or confirm that those were snoke clones somewhere?

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no confirmations, just filling in the holes based on what we know...

Regarding the First Order: it's clear there is still an imperial remnant in the outer rim that is not only around, but active, operating as if the war isn't over. It's not yet the First Order, but it's pretty clear that the imperial remnant is just re-formed under a reshuffled leadership to become the First Order. You can see from this past episode that the New Republic isn't entirely concerned with the events in the outer rim... "something's going on", "they don't believe it on the core worlds", etc. A lax and dismissive approach by the New Republic would allow the (edit: strengthening and organizing into a new system pretty easily)

Where Snoke comes from, or what Snoke is, or why Snoke is important, we don't know. But it's obvious Snoke is a Force user, and given what we see in the lab, it's not a stretch to think that these kinds of experiments could be an explanation for Snoke's origin. He's just a weird clone experiment who was implanted with force sensitivity and either learned or was taught how to use it.

Or, like I tend to think, was simply used as a conduit for another, more powerful Force user who may not have had a very functional body. Given what we saw with Episode 9, it's not beyond belief to me that Palpy was using the force to control the force-sensitive clone experiments, including Snoke.

edit: lol finished my sentence above...the one i left hanging right in the middle 🤦

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Makes sense, hadnt noticed the bit where the republic officers say those little bits but thats a good grab. I'd agree with your last point the most to me everything was always a puppet of the sith lord old palpy and I tend to believe he simply controlled and saw everything and most things were done by his bidding or his ability to accurately predict others moves. Unless they show us otherwise the way the last movie went I would tend to believe that snoke simply was a puppet and conduit for palpatines ways so he could remain hidden and still control what was going on. I would enjoy seeing his role explained more if it fits the show so we can maybe get some answers on that front to maybe help tie the sequel trilogy together since they wont just jettison it off into space.

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The show has done a pretty good job of framing what the New Republic actually was, from a canon point of view.

The expectation would be after the original trilogy "Oh hey the Emperor is dead and we got the Death Star again. Everything is going to be fine now." Thats just kind of how those types of happy endings are supposed to go. Kind of brushing over the fact that there were still tons of Star Destroyers, loyal Imperial crews, stormtroopers, and entire planetary systems with a vested interest in maintaining Imperial power and control out there.

But the reality is that the galaxy is massive, the Old Republic couldn't maintain control, and the Empire was able to step into situation and take over. Reasonably, it makes total sense that the New Republic would not be super smooth in transitioning from being an organized rebellion to being an organized government that easily.

I wish the movies had done a better job with fleshing that out, but happy to be seeing it now.

What if snoke was just 99 reincarnate to take over the galaxy? Or even nuttier but what if 99 was the real sith lord with his own cloning(them clones can clone) setup and palpatine was his puppet like snoke was?

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This scene reminded me of Rocket trying to tutor Baby Groot for arming that explosive for planet Ego.

As an electrician this describes how working with an apprentice feels on a daily basis.

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...or me trying to explain to my in-laws how to join a Zoom call.

LOL I know how you feel. I always loved being underneath something, asking for a tool, getting the wrong tool, then having to describe the right tools. Then just climbing out and getting the damn thing yourself.

ESPN. The coverage is excellent, you'd be surprised at how much you can pick up.

Always loved the ol' I need a left handed allen wrench, or the left handle screw driver. The shit I've seen em do is enough to turn my blue with laughter over the years but this scene made me damn near piss my pants with how close it hit me. My wife thought I was dumb for laughing so hard but its perfect in every way.

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Rewatched Siege of Mandalore last night and some other CW prereqs with my roommate. Siege is so incredibly good, I wish they had done it as one movie rather than 4 episodes.

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