Hokies Suspend Tyrece Radford

Virginia Tech announced Tyrece Radford was suspended.

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This one hurts. No idea and won't speculate. Hopefully he gets it cleared up quickly.

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Reigning ACC (Co) Player of the Week being suspended indefinitely is definitely NOT a good thing.

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the announcement wording makes it sound like a student conduct thing, but that's pure speculation on my part

It's baffling how VT sports can't go six months without some devastating news.

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I wonder how normal this is. Is VT an outliar, or is every program like this, and we just notice it more since we follow VT.

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I suspect a lot more programs go through this but we dont realize it. We are the most acutely aware of things happening here and their impact after all.

Oh Nooo! They scuffed my Boots!!!

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I guess that clears up the discussion about whether or not Bamisile was still with the team.

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They've got some tough old boots to fill...

I'd like to see more of Big John right now. A little high low action with the two of them/N'Gussan and teams can't focus so much on shutting down Aluma, which is clearly now in all our opponent's scouting plans.

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Ahh the wistful "Hoop Dreams" we had back in the good ole days - like last week. Let's see how CMY and boys respond!

at least it's nothing serious, like cheating on an exam

s/

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In a world with services such as Ubers and Lyft, I don't understand the prevalence of DUI's. I guess COVID makes it different, but still.

Sometimes it is probably that a person who has had too much to drink is not thinking straight. Getting behind the wheel drunk already implies poor or impaired judgement, so I suspect a decent chunk of the time a person might be responsible and make good judgements when sober but maybe just doesn't think about it if they have had way much to drink. No idea if this has anything to do with the specific case here (assuming it is a DUI incident). More just a general thought for why it could happen sometimes even with the travel alternatives you correctly note should be used.

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We should also consider how local zoning codes encourage, and pre Uber/Lyft nearly required, drunk driving. Most codes require parking at bars and breweries, often much more than can be filled even at full capacity, then build their communities in a way where you can only move around by car. While the parking requirement likely doesn't apply here, Blacksburg's emphasis on auto mobility probably does.

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I thought the same thing too but people will always think they are invincible thinking they will never get one.

I got one (DWI) in 2013, and after all the punishment (fines, court fees, lawyer fees, jail days (5), full year probation, full year restricted lincense, no drug/alcohol consumption/possesson for a year, 20 AA classes, 8 VASAP classes... I am probably missing something, but VA doesn't fuck around with DUI/DWI's) and definitely learned my lesson... A lot of my friends who would drink and drive all the time (pre and post uber/lyft) saw what I went through and dialed back the drunk driving. But I still have some of my friends that will still convince themselves of driving back home after drinking since they know the way home and/or home is close.

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With that list of punishments, I hope your lawyer fees were minimal. Probably could have saved that cost and not done much worse in court. Not that I would be familiar with the process, of course....

Umm is hooptie not a thing any more?

Of course, cause it has to be something he'd be detained for...with no court date anytime soon...

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Or having consensual sex with your girlfriend. Jimmer Fredette could've done even bigger things if Brandon Davies had just kept it in his pants.

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Thought I would assist in these troubling times. Hopefully I did it right or else I will look pretty stupid.

Just a reminder that our coaching staff and athletic department took on Cordell Pemsl, who received a DUI arrest and a second arrest for driving on a revoked license last season.

So if it's "just" a DUI (which is very serious, obviously) and they don't give Boots another chance, i'll be really pissed.

Somehow it's different when it happens on your team. Countless players who got in trouble were more than welcomed by a new team after they "learned their lesson"...not all of whom actually did learn a lesson.

This aged well now that we know there was a firearm related charge as well.

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I said:

if it's "just" a DUI

Even with the extra misdemeanor, I suppose there is still some hope... But I'm definitely not expecting the best given how these indefinite suspensions tend to go

Oh that makes it better that you complained about a non existent double standard.

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Damn. Between this and Aluma and Cone suddenly going cold shooting I'm suddenly feeling pessimistic about the ROS. Radford may not have been the highest scorer on the team but I liked his grit driving it inside and on defense.

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welp

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My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

carrying a concealed weapon (pistol, certain knives & other weapons) is automatically a misdemeanor crime if you are intoxicated, even if you have a valid concealed-carry permit.
Being charged with DUI means you are automatically assumed to be intoxicated for the purposes of this law
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter5/section18.2-308.012/

if he didn't have a concealed carry permit, a first offense illegal concealed-carry is a misdemeanor crime (2nd offense and beyond are felonies) regardless of circumstance
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-308/

similarly the DUI itself is a misdemeanor unless it's a 3rd offense, in which case it would be a felony crime. https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-270/

so best case, he's charged with 2 Class 1 misdemeanors for first offenses in both categories.

Thank you for the translations and all the valuable info. So for a first time offender, what are generally the consequences for 2 Class 1 misdemeanors?

Indefinite suspension (?)

Hopefully the Grayson Allen variety of indefinite suspension

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So you are suggesting he take a short trip away from the team?

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Well, I mean yeah that's an extremely ambiguous VT consequence... I meant legal consequences. Like how much trouble is he in?

In Virginia, a DUI has a bunch of specific penalties beyond that of a regular misdemeanor as detailed in avtfan's post above. No idea what a typical sentence would be for illegally carrying a concealed weapon. My guess (hope?) is that it will be some kind of probation and/or fine and/or community service.

Not sure how that works with a DUI

Nothing good, thats for sure.

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Welp

*yells obscenities for 5 minutes straight*

The freshman we had come in this season have a lot of good talent. They've got a chance to slid in and show off that skill. It sucks losing our most consistent player in a season where we can make the tournament, but we do have some depth (theoretically) so maaaaybe it won't be that bad of a hit.

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Damn it, Tyrece. Really?

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Sad this went down - but the response of the Athletic Department is the right one. Like WildTurkeys says...we do have depth.

Let's go 2-0 against Notre Dame.

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Getting drunk... okay... driving... not good... packing... awful. Brings into question some serious character issues with Mr. Radford. Let's pump the brakes on how this impacts our team and instead think about his life which just changed forever. Hopefully he learns from this and uses it as a pivot point for his decision making and priorities and values going forward. Basketball for Mr. Radford at VT? If all this is true? I wouldn't think so...

It is a pair of misdemeanors. He is going to lose his license from the DUI. The conceal is an automatic tack on from the DUI.

Packing in this case could have been carrying a pocketknife or having a LEGAL gun in the car. We don't know and should not speculate. I am hoping Young and the athletic department will look at all of the FACTS and circumstances before making any type of final decision. That is the purpose of the indefinite suspension.

A pocket knife isn't a concealed weapon. A legal gun while intoxicated would still be illegal. I do agree though that, as with any case, we need to wait for facts which is why it is an indefinite suspension.

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I mean, there are multiple avenues here to hurt himself and others. I'm not gonna jump immediately to assaulting his character, but this is a pretty bad look for him.

I freaking hate this because so far this year Radford was like the James Mitchell of our team: the man-card-carrying, most consistent performer game-in, game-out who was doing a little bit of everything for us, and doing it fearlessly. Of all the players to lose, Radford would have been my last choice (maybe Aluma but not if he doesn't get out of this slump).

I am going to be so annoyed if he ends playing for A&M's first Sweet 16 team under Buzz...

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He can't play for Buzz this season, so A&M's record this year doesn't really matter.

I'm concerned for him. He made a mistake and if he can use this as a life-changing moment and stay in school he'll be a better person for this. If I remember correctly, he's lived in a level of poverty and so this is a huge pivot point in his life.

I hope Young starts Bamisile. Starting, he'll feel less pressure to instantly perform... he's long, great leaper, rebounder and attacks the rim.... basically a 6-4 Tyrece but maybe a better shooter.

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Radford's info is on the courts website now. Charged with Class 1 Misdemeanor conceal carry and Class 1 Misdemeanor DWI 1st offense. Advisement hearing is February 9.

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If he has a permit, and the DWI punishment is to take a course, etc. I -could- see a scenario where he comes back to play at VT. Young loves him. If he is carrying without a permit, his career at VT is over.

These are misdemeanors, why is he suspended? I thought only felony was autosuspension.

EDIT: I can't read, not suspended from school, just basketball. So hopefully just a in the dog house, prove you want to be here thing. And I hope he wants here and not driving under the influence.

I think felony is auto suspension from school but he is only suspended from team activities if I understand right.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

He is suspended because he was arrested with a gun. Fine print/precedent/etc aside. I would have suspended him too for DWI while armed- misdemeanor or not.

I think it all depends on Young himself, if he is a guy who believes in 2nd chances (which he seems to be, look at one some have already pointed out about Pemsl). Can Radford learn from this and improve himself? If Young thinks so, I think he comes back.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Roanoke Times article

His hearing is tomorrow where he plans to plead guilty to both charges. Blew a 0.13 at the station. He was carrying an unloaded pistol on his person with no ammunition in his car. He took a concealed carry class, but had not submitted the paperwork yet. He thought he was ok to start carrying. He cooperated with the cops and disclosed the weapon during the stop.

Not as bad as I thought it could be. The DUI is serious and no excuses there but the weapon charge isn't as bad as it could have been.

according to his attorney, Jimmy Turk.

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Hahahaha, Jimmy really is the Saul of the New River Valley. Exactly the first person I would have called if I were in his situation.

Article appears to be for subscribers only, but your cliff notes provide a lot of info. Thanks for the update. We've been playing well without him, but his presence would definitely make a difference.

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Other than the drinking and driving, he has been doing the right thing.

Hmm. I'm glad to hear he's stepping up and taking responsibility. I'm also glad there were some pseudo-mitigating circumstances that he had taken the class and that he disclosed the weapon during the stop. All good things.

The BAC isn't good but it isn't the worst I've heard. So not a good thing.

But... weapon on his person? Not in the console? Not in the glove box?

I'm not a gun owner nor do I know whether that is normal procedure but if it was on his person instead of stored somewhere in the vehicle, is that a good or bad thing? It causes me pause.

If you are licensed to carry, it is absolutely normal. But, he wasn't licensed (even though it sounds like he thought he was) and you can't carry while drinking regardless.

Sidenote: in Virginia you can also open carry (not concealed) without a license.

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If you are going to concealed carry then having it on your person is very typical even while driving. Carrying in your pocket is not uncommon either although not advised unless in a holster.

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Following up what others have said and adding that he clearly forgot to things that should have been clearly taught in his concealed carry class. 1) you have apply and be issued a licence before carrying not just take the course and 2) you can't drink and carry even once licenced. These two things should gave been clear in the class.

Also carrying an empty gun is just a recipe for something bad to happen in that it is of no real use to you for protection and a threat to others. Carrying an empty gun is usually No different than carrying a loaded gun legally squeaking. No one should carry am empty gun but I guess I could see how someone might to get comfortable carrying, but not while drinking. Glad he was (able to be) up front with the police about having the gun.

Also carrying an empty gun is just a recipe for something bad to happen in that it is of no real use to you for protection and a threat to others.

This is what I was thinking. Thanks to all y'all for the insight.

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I would guess he recently got the gun/took his ccw course. Wanted to show it off, brought it where ever he was drinking. Put it in his waistband, pocket, holster, whatever got in his car. Drove, got pulled over.

He recently turned 21 which is the legal age of handgun purchase. There's also almost no other [logical] reason that people would carry an empty gun around.

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1) in your point happens A LOT. That's why in every CCW course they seemingly try to stress that a ton (I've taken 4 different state courses) and people still don't listen or misunderstand.

2) In every state I've been licensed in you can carry if your BAC is under .08 (or defined as under the influence in most states) as long as you are not actively consuming alcohol - think of it as if you can't do it with a car you can't with a gun either. I would not recommend this and also I'm not a lawyer. Don't drink and guns.

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So open carry is legal and doesnt require a conceal carry and one big no no is to have any firearms "concealed" ie in the glovebox or center console and not have a concealed carry license. So you can travel with them there technically but if you ever get stopped you cant have them hidden and need to disclose them to the officer and not try and keep them unknown otherwise it is viewed as lying and a risk for the officer.

That all said I encourage people when they start carrying to practice once you have your permit by strictly carrying an unloaded firearm until they are truly comfortable with it before carrying loaded. Its the same philosophy I use when teaching people hunting they carry a bb gun or something just to practice safe handling before ever firing a shot they learn control and safety before being able to risk themselves or someone else.

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Ah I see your point about the glove box/console, thanks

I wonder if they can toss the concealed carry as it was unloaded with no ammo in the car?

The fact that handgun ammo is pretty much non existent at the moment may have saved his bacon.

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I'd like to know the VA legal definition for "on his person" as well.
Is it perhaps, "within reach and not behind 2 locks?"

I know for transporting alcohol in your car, open container could be construed to mean that unopened growler of beer. That's why we use electrical tape to put a "seal" around the lid

This is going to be great for the ACC.

When I got my DWI, I blew a .14 but I am/was 6'4" 230 lbs compared so his 6'2" 200 lbs... so based on how much I drank that night, my man got after it

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That is just about the best result we could have hoped for. He was pleading guilty and owning up to what he did.

Under the plea agreement, Radford pleaded not guilty to driving under the influence with the stipulation that he be found guilty. Turk said after the hearing that by making that plea instead of pleading guilty, Radford avoided having to answer questions from the judge about the DUI incident.

interesting approach

https://roanoke.com/sports/college/va_tech/virginia-tech-basketball-play...

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I had heard that he was going to plead guilty, but apparently that was effectively the same difference.

So essentially he entered a "No Contest" plea, if I'm understanding that correctly

Just when I thought our legal system couldn't get any more confusing, he can plead not guilty but agrees he is guilty, and his driving privileges in Virginia are suspended but not really since he can get a Virginia driver's license and a breathalyzer ignition and continue driving in Virginia. (I remember my neighbor getting a first time DUI and bicycling to work (Great Falls to Herndon) for a year.) This truly is a slap on the wrist and my concern would be Radford getting into more trouble. I hope he has gotten the message and is a teetotaling terror on the court for the next couple years.
"Radford, who has a Louisiana driver's license, also had his driving privileges in Virginia revoked for 12 months — unless he gets a Virginia driver's license, in which case his license will be restricted and he must have the ignition interlock device in his car."

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If you ever think our legal system can't get more confusing, take a step back, breathe, and remember this is a system written by lawyers for lawyers, it's a giant weed out class

Surely after this result the suspension will be lifted at some point?

I would imagine sooner rather than later

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I would think so. First offense and he owned up to it. Seems like a great kid and someone that deserves a second chance.

In case there are any other non-lawyer term savvy folks like me, one of the replies to the tweet explains that "taking the gun case under advisement for one year" essentially means if Radford stays out of trouble for a year, the charge gets dropped

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Yup. Let's hope this has been a harsh lesson and he can get back with his life after whatever the guilty to DUI confers is over. I imagine that due to owning up, first offense, and a heck of relationship with his team that hopefully he will be able to play again this year.

I had a friend who picked up a DUI in college, first offense...I wanna say he had some fines, probation, suspended license and some community service.

I would hope to see him back in rotation for Louisville, at the latest

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Can we give Radford a McDonald's bag full of Uber gift cards? Oh, wait, my bad, living here near UT I get confused sometimes.

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He owned it and followed through. I think he'll be back.

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